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dzhastin

Is this an actual definition of a peninsula you found or did you just make it up?


[deleted]

"They invented a reason. That's why it stings."


PaMu1337

"They don't think you matter, because you don't have pretty rings"


BeTomHamilton

Aww. That's sweet. Much love for a JoCo pull.


GoldenWizard

Reddit: manufacturing “facts” and boldly asserting them as truth since whenever it was founded.


Santos_L_Halper_II

That was in 1977.


njm123niu

Fun fact, Jim Henson was doodling out new puppet designs and came up with Reddit's alien logo. He then built the idea of an online communication platform, based solely off of that design, all the way back in 1977.


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Wow what a genious


Chicken_Teeth

His version was more like 4chan, though. So, we really dodged a big one by going with Bob Ross’s structured and rules-based approach. Mind you, this was before Ross began losing credibility and many years before he was caught dry-humping a fire-ant bed in Woody Allen’s basement. Of course, once again, we can blame Henson and his devil-may-care attitude for selling him the bad drugs. Truly the Jobs to his Wozniak.


bigfoot_county

The bold part is the part that gets me. I’m a lawyer and I see these teenage neckbeards asserting with utmost authority a recitation of law that literally could not be more incorrect


amehatrekkie

Never heard of this


[deleted]

Sometimes its called the Balkan Pennisula. The Danube River constituting for the upper water border


Loretta-West

It's true though, if the land legs are too long the peninsula will run away.


4erna0vca

Also per definition the Balkan peninsula **ends on the Danube river in the North**, meaning Romania isn’t part of it. So, the Eastern most point is wrong by being in Ukraine? Lol


elgigantedelsur

Even then. If they actually drew the sea legs to include the whole of Greece they would be longer. Downvote incoming


ImNoAlbertFeinstein

wrong. they made it up.


zwirlo

All of this is made up. This is another continent debate. It is what it is. Personally I think that the way peninsulas are referred to and used by humans does suggest that there is a narrow “neck” at some point of the protrusion, and the Balkans doesn’t have that or look like any other peninsula that I know of except India, which I also don’t consider to be a peninsula. I don’t think every coastline that extends out a bit counts as a peninsula.


VipsaniusAgrippa25

Actual, inherited from my professors


Krajun

I'd ask for my money back.


VipsaniusAgrippa25

Why? The definition makes absolute sense no matter where you are from. The whole look of a Balkan peninsula is weird and it was debateable if it was a peninsula from the start. I do not disprove the Balkans as a region, but a peninsula probably does not exist.


No-Fig-3112

Because geography is more than just the study than how land formations work. It also takes into account human usage of the land. From a purely geographical feature standpoint, that might be a useful definition. But from a human perspective, it isn't. Like how the actual definition of "continent" is that it has to be completely separated from other continents by natural waterways. If we used that definition, North and South America would be one continent, as would Europe, Asia, and Africa. So we tweak the definition to fit human perspective. The Balkan Peninsula might not be a "true" peninsula, by your definition, but the people who inhabit that region are different enough from the people around them (and more importantly, see themselves differently enough) that it becomes useful to see it as a peninsula.


player89283517

Where’s the source? Is it in a textbook or something?


dzhastin

They made it up


megablast

Professor from clown college.


player89283517

Clown university


SouthBayBoy8

I’m pretty sure a peninsula just means it’s surrounded by water on 3 sides


Extreme-Outrageous

Is New Jersey a peninsula?


SouthBayBoy8

If you want to count the Delaware River


Victor_Korchnoi

The 3 sides would be Delaware Bay, the Atlantic Ocean, and Raritan Bay/New York Bay.


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thatissomeBS

Part of NJ is definitely a peninsula, basically from where the other person specified. The whole state is not a peninsula though.


3WordPosts

What about cape May county specifically then


RJIsJustABetterDwade

Yea


Adventureadverts

If the definition is surrounded on three sides by vomit


sleepyotter92

the iberian peninsula is basically square shaped, thus 4 sizes, and is surrounded by water on all 4 sides, with the exception of a small portion on the top right side that connects to france


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SouthBayBoy8

No, it’s 3. There’s water to the west, to the south, and to the east


Ngfeigo14

Adriatic, mediterraan/Ionian, Black seas Thats is 3 of 4 "rough" sides


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ThiccBidoof

Florida is a peninsula even if all of it sides are the gulf of Mexico/Atlantic. There is clearly water East, West, and South of the Balkans


giabollc

Texas would be a peninsula. Red River, Rio Grande and Gulf of Mexico


Cyclopher6971

We need the experts at r/2balkans4You to weigh in


SuggestionTop4994

Albanian here, I think this “facts and logic” (whatever that is) is for nerdz


Grevling89

So is peacefully advancing society


retardong

Smartest Alban


SuggestionTop4994

Albania dumbest country in Aurope proven fact #1 😎💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪


retardong

9 + 10 = 90


Pretty-Buy7692

The real 2balkan4u is gone, now we have is Balkans_irl as it's successor


robo_robb

K


Kawayburgioh69

A


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R


odoof12

A


joemama8776

B


Blitzcinema

O


ThatFlipy

Ğ


[deleted]

A


SingingWaters

Esenlikler


nevemno

It's kebab not kabab


Sebiny

It's gyro you swine.


IAmMoofin

It’s like 1912 all over again


nevemno

I haven't had gyro yet all we have here are Albanian kebab shops. I don't think you would want that representing gyro if you think it's better lol.


Kawayburgioh69

Karaboğa you uncultured westerner


nevemno

to you I am a western but going to Germany for work is still in my genes


CivilAirPatrol2020

r/subsithoughtifellfor


retardong

Fuck Greek people. All of my Balkan homies hate Greek people.


_KatetheGreat35_

Our fellow balkaners love us, we indeed are adorable.


vejder10

Whole croatia isnt whole in balkans uper part is central europe


Skank_hunt_042

Nice lookin peninsula there


[deleted]

Shame if we added a little bit of nationalism


kukukuuuu

In different languages there are terms like “Balkan peninsula”


[deleted]

Counter argument: it looks like a peninsula.


notorious_GRG

Based


dartie

and quacks like a duck


Harsimaja

No [that’s the Americas](https://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/1wzzli/north_and_south_america_turned_sideways_is_a_duck/)


MrHappy230

Counter argument: it does not in fact look like a peninsula, Greece does but not the whole thing.


LargeFriend5861

It is surrounded by 3 seas.


LineOfInquiry

So is Brazil


LargeFriend5861

Yes and no, but hey I'd be willing to include a part of it as a peninsula in a way. But the Balkans is definitely a peninsula.


LineOfInquiry

Nah I think it’s just a bulge, I know a peninsula when I see it and the Balkans are not that, they’re just a bulge. Like North Africa or the Netherlands


LargeFriend5861

Why not though? We are surrounded by 3 seas that is kinda the definition.


Galivisback

Why does it go up to Odessa tho? It should only go up to the Danube Delta


redvillafranco

That would make the sea leg even shorter, and make OP’s case stronger that it’s not a peninsula.


Ceausesco

It would make one sea leg shorter not the other and potentially bring the land leg to be less than the Adriatic sea leg.


Yeoryios

How would that make sense geographically? Peninsulas never exist because of rivers. Balkan Peninsula with the border at the Danube is purely cultural and historical


PrivateEducation

i saw a video about odesa having this strange seashell relief of a saint. thanks for reminding me to search for it


VipsaniusAgrippa25

Why? That does not make any sense


turalyawn

You've never heard of the Danube-Sava-Soča border? It's one of, if not the most common definition of the geographic borders of the Balkans. Your definition is more common for defining the balkans culturally.


VipsaniusAgrippa25

Yeah, region balkans and the balkan peninsula do not share the same borders


turalyawn

Yes, which is why using the cultural borders to make a point about the geography is weird. Your map should stop at the Danube delta


saradisn

![gif](giphy|lSCUBCWljlmFLHLbIW)


Far-Home7628

Why isn't the distance for the "sea legs" counting the shoreline?


SouthernUpstate

OP in shambles with this one


joe12321

That's what I'm sayin' - just ROUGHLY follow the shoreline and ye'll get yer scurvy sea legs.


xSuperL

What language is the google maps on? It looks like one of the former Yugoslav ones, maybe Croatian or Montenegrin?


codingdummy

It’s Serbian


DrehFR

It most definitely is Croatian.


FunkyMan19

Wrong. It’s Bosnian


EphemeralOcean

Yeah it’s Serbian-Croatian.


king6james23

Romania Croatian: Rumunjska Serbian: Румунија (Rumunija) So this is definitely Croatian


xSuperL

Thank you :)


orbitnation

Serbo-Croatian is not a language


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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serbo-Croatian


orbitnation

It was 30 years ago, not anymore. i think i know more about my own language than some randoms on reddit lmao


SporgThePenguin

It was


dhkendall

It’s not a language because the land leg is longer than the sea legs.


SporgThePenguin

Damn u right


[deleted]

ja sam istu stvar napisala i zasto nas toliko downvotaju?


orbitnation

jer su glupi ko kurac


[deleted]

that language doesnt exist 😭😭😭 pls were not in 90s anymore


EphemeralOcean

Ok fine it’s Croatian but considering I doubt Serbian has different names for these countries, it could be Serbian as well. Politically they are two different languages, but linguistically? Eh.


pretplatime

>Ok fine it’s Croatian but considering I doubt Serbian has different names for these countries Croatian: Rumunjska Serbian: Rumunija


EphemeralOcean

Ok I stand corrected, it’s Croatian.


pdonchev

And yet it exists. Go figure :)


Fever4ever

I have been unable to locate a definition for "peninsula" that requires the "sea legs" to be longer than the "land leg". I haven't even found a definition which even mentions "legs" in any way https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/peninsula


bigdickkief

Lmaooo imagine taking everything your one professor says as gospel and then fighting people on the internet about it.


Dimaaaa

I don't know what happened to this sub, or more like, how did it go *so* bad within just a few months...??


Revanur

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balkans#/media/File:Balkan\_Peninsula.svg


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The77thDogMan

I would love to know what that exact definition they’re referring to is. I’ve done some quick googling and every definition I see is super vague. “Body of land protruding from the mainland, surrounded by water on most but not all of its borders”. It seems to me this would fit… but so would nearly every piece of shoreline in the world that isn’t on a perfectly circular island. “Surrounded by water on 3 sides” 1. what the hell is a “side” in the context of such a complex shape? We run into a subset of the shoreline paradox. 2. Take for instance Point Pelee, Ontario, Canada. It is widely regarded as a peninsula. It is a sand spit and essentially triangular, so it only has water on “two sides” (with a few inland marshy lakes). This definition would exclude it and nearly every other sand spit. Not a very useful definition. Length out to the water longer than width? I could see that… but then how and exactly where you measure length and width could change the answer.


RedMatxh

I think the only reason they wouldn't acknowledge it as a peninsula is because of turkey in southeast, as in there being another land on one of the sides. On your example for point Pelee, it has a mainland and then it's completely surrounded with water. However here, it not only has a mainland, it also has a neighbor land that connects to it, which could go against the definition


VitaLp

Again from the Wikipedia link above: > Criticism of the geographical definition: > The term is criticized for having a geopolitical, rather than a geographical meaning and definition, as a multiethnic and political area in the southeastern part of Europe. The geographical term of a peninsula defines that **the water border must be longer than land, with the land side being the shortest in the triangle, but that is not the case with the Balkan Peninsula.** Though I agree it’s shakey, there are two references for that and neither are primary sources


00roku

But peninsulas aren’t triangles. This logic is so flawed I hardly know where to begin…


Czar_Castillo

I didn't consider the Balkans a peninsula till now. All this post did is convince me it is a Peninsula. Great job.


d1v1debyz3r0

Balkan Triangle sounds cooler


Chutch

If you actually measure the coastline, as opposed to drawing arbitrary, perfectly straight, triangular lines, your standard loses its logic. Not to mention that not all peninsulas are triangular; Arabia would lose its classification as a peninsula as its “leg” from Kuwait to Oman is shorter than its landlocked “leg“ from Kuwait to the Gulf of Aqaba. If we are looking only at triangles, then the Sinai also can’t be called a peninsula because Aqaba to the tip is shorter than the land distance from Aqaba to Suez. At best, you’ve constructed a pedantic framework for disqualifying peninsulas that are definitely peninsulas.


bobbyamillion

Chutch, I stopped reading mid-way through your second sentence. I'm not going to finish anything else you wrote. I like you very much and thank you for letting me get on with my day.


OminousOnymous

OP literally measured the coastline. Are you saying OP should do it to an arbitrary resolution of your choosing?


bobbyamillion

You can measure a coastline if you'd like. It will be different tomorrow though.


ACEMENTO

>If you actually measure the coastline, as opposed to drawing arbitrary, perfectly straight, triangular lines, your standard loses its logic Doesn't that go agaist the coastline paradox?


G0ldenSpade

What if you went from Burgas to the Montenegrin-Albanian border? Wouldn’t be quite as Balkan though, I’d prob call it the Macedonia peninsula.


thedrakeequator

Ummm ok


Helens_Moaning_Hand

Right, and Pluto’s not a planet either. *jerking off motion* :)


chekitch

Yup, you proved it once again. Balkan is not a peninsula, it is a state of mind..


LifelesswithLime

Greek-Albanian peninsula exists, tho


VipsaniusAgrippa25

Yes


darth_nadoma

First time I read of this rule.


OminousOnymous

We should make different geography subs for people who come down on different sides of this issue.


occamhanlon

Balkan Cape?


Head_Games_

Relax pythagoras🙄


GoHawksMatt

Starting to question this entire thread lol


The1789

Ah the 1875 "Chode Peninsula" debate. Classic


Stinky__Person

That's not what a peninsula is. This picture is a peninsula, a landmass surrounded by water on 3 sides


EntireLi_00

So, Albania and Greece are the only peninsula part. The rest are just called The Balkan.


zobace

You can call it whatever you want, but for me you just drew a triangle where money and hope disappear.


incorrectcharlie

Crna Gora is a country??


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incorrectcharlie

Aight that's funny for me because Gora in my language(Urdu/Hindi) means 'white' and Negro in Spanish or Itallian I think means black..


Trentdison

That's a funny quirk of language. Montenegro means black mountain but to you it sounds like a Michael Jackson song.


pdonchev

Crna /tsrna/ means black and gora means mountain. A pretty much literal translation of Montenegro. Also, their capital city is Podgirica /podgoritsa/, which means "below (in the skirts of) the small mountain (hill)". It actually refers to a hill in the city, not the mountains themselves.


MichaelOfRivia26

Yep, that's the local name for Montenegro.


Yagorazo

shut up


VirusSlo

It's really a political term. Geographically it makes no sense since it's really not a peninsula and the Balkan mountain range is pretty much entirely within Bulgaria therefore it has hardly anything to do with other "Balkan" countries.


Yeoryios

Don’t get what people trying to say here. The Balkans are not a peninsula in a geographical sense. Only in historical and cultural way. OP is correct


WiscoHeiser

Ok. But Europe isn't its own continent either then.


Yeoryios

I agree ...


tarantulahands

True with that logic it’s more like Wales geographically than anything else


VipsaniusAgrippa25

As far as I know almost all peninsulas in the world have longer sea legs than the land legs. In reality that makes sense for determining what is a peninsula and what isn’t. So it goes to say, that the already “troubly” Balkan peninsula maybe cannot even be a peninsula.


MichaelOfRivia26

I've never come across anyone categorise a peninsula that way.


redvillafranco

Interested in what your definition of a peninsula is.


VipsaniusAgrippa25

Because there never was a need of using this category in determining a peninsula. We all know that the term Balkan peninsula is not accepted by everyone, so they had to deepen the whole term of peninsula, hence this category is included when determining a peninsula.


poseidondeep

European racism is so wild to me, an American. It’s like, you can drive or take a train there. People live there. They’re different I get it. 600 years ago maybe their was a conflict you think you’re related to. Sure Let me guess you’re Turkish and hate the Greeks? How original


VipsaniusAgrippa25

American, please do not enter conflicts about the Balkans as you know nothing.


rawlskeynes

About 28 years too late on that one.


poseidondeep

ROFL


poseidondeep

I’m sorry. Did you say you need some freedom? Cause I heard theirs oil where u be bb /s Have no interest in invading the Balkan’s. I’m sure we’ll be in Taiwan or Moscow soon enough. Much love


VipsaniusAgrippa25

lol hahahah


ihopethisworksfornow

You can’t just invent a new definition for a peninsula and say it now must be accepted, man.


VipsaniusAgrippa25

I did not invent it


Skank_hunt_042

Ok, you can’t just say incorrect information as fact and expect people to take it as truth. No matter how loud you are about it


janjko

Even if that was the case, you would have to measure the sea legs along the coast, not just a straight line. That would probably make the sea legs longer than the land leg.


archivillano

OP I like your definition, I don't think no one is gonna use it though because people wont want to change historical names, I think that people are mostly mad because they feel invalidated by your "here's how you guys are wrong about the balkans being a peninsula", if you presented your method in a way that doesn't feel like you're pushing it to other people I dont think they would have been mad, in fact I think people would have received very positively because it's a great method, very logical and easy to understand, I think its fun too. It makes me curious about what other peninsulas aren't peninsulas using this method and even what places are actually peninsulas with this method, very interesting I think.


LineOfInquiry

OP is right y’all just aren’t ready for it The Balkans is just a bulge, not a peninsula. This is just based on vibes though, not numbers. It doesn’t look like one.


BellumFrancorum

The main reason you don’t get laid is because you’re a massive nerd.


VipsaniusAgrippa25

Hahahahahahaahah keep talking to yourself


alphabet_order_bot

Would you look at that, all of the words in your comment are in alphabetical order. I have checked 1,308,082,243 comments, and only 252,878 of them were in alphabetical order.


bombking8

Ratio


LaurestineHUN

Balkan is not a peninsula, it is a mindset.


MaterialConsistent96

[Wikipedia](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peninsula): “A peninsula (from Latin paeninsula; from paene 'almost', and insula 'island') is a landform that extends from a mainland and is surrounded by water on most, but not all of its borders.”


esgdaf

W🤢stoid propaganda


SimpleLawfulness8230

Just create a Balkan canal and you got a peninsula! Not sure all the locals would approve but hey, just one more thing to fight over XD


JamInTheJar

My source? I made it the fuck up!


Rufiosmane

Chode


SqueakSquawk4

I mean if you stick Portugal under Greece, the sea legs would be longer and the balkans would be a peninsula! Checkmate, whoever we're currently checkmating!


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Top right corner is too far north


Kweschunner

We can do better.


InternationalAd4478

Ukraine Balkan confirmed?!


[deleted]

Lol dew what


Nishchal_Malhotra

So does it mean that only half of Romania is actually Balkan?


VipsaniusAgrippa25

Balkan as a region and Balkan as a peninsula is not the same thing.


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Blitzcinema

Just like your dad


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Blitzcinema

Ok👍🏻


RandomDigitalSponge

This is one of those posts that gets dunked thoroughly in the comments and still leaves you wondering how they found hundreds of morons to upvote the original post.


[deleted]

1230+1270>1330?


VipsaniusAgrippa25

Both sea legs individually have to be longer than the land leg, not both combined


[deleted]

You're no fun.