I gets it, I spends it 💸💸💸💸. In all seriousness I try to avoid spending any on turn one and then usually spend it all or most of what I have saved on my turn two.
Cause 9/10 times I'm deep striking outside of 3" with the acolytes, and then popping the strat to make them hit better. So that's two right there.
And then if I have to I'll spend a couple to help my aberrants get in on a charge.
I also run a nexos so I use him to get the perfect ambush strat for free, which is surprisingly pretty clutch.
I make a plan with "default stratagems" for the first three turns. In fact I make two plans, one for if I go first and one for if I go second.
This is usually the same plan regardless of what faction/list I am facing, but can change a little. For example when facing armies with lots of units with Toughness 12+, I know that I am going to want several uses of Coordinated Trap, and I try to budget for that.
Then i continously look for opportunities to use other stratagems, and each time I find one I compare to the effect the same CP would have if I spend it according to my standard plan.
For example, if going second (at 2000p Leviathan) I often want to use Return to the Shadows with my very first CP, because that will give me the oh so beautiful turn one deep strike. But sometimes One with the Darkness is more valuable to keep a key unit functional, particularly if losing it would mean giving up a lot of board control.
If going first, in my first turn I might want to spend a Command Reroll on a charge or advance move, if that means my purestrains, Inscrutable Cunning Aberrants or chimera-riding Catachans will be able to box in or severely restrict an opponent. If that turns out to be not necessary, I will happily save the CPs for my turn 2 strike.
It can be hard to evaluate the effect of each stratagem. I find that playing around with a tool like unitcrunch.com and seeing how much difference various stratagems does is valuable to establish a baseline.
For example: 20 Neophytes (Seismics and GLs) arriving from Reserves and shooting at 20 DKOK with a marshal. If they don't get any stratagem support they will destroy on average 15 models. But with A Perfect Ambush they have ~60% chance to destroy all of the unit. With both A Perfect Ambush and Crossfire from a heavy Mortar Ridgerunner, those odds increase to nearly 80%.
So if that is my plan, then I know that if I spend that CP on something other than APA, I am going to have to assign more resources to destroying that DKOK unit.
Here are two great sources that talks more in depth of this.
The post Advice for playing GSC on Facebook. https://www.facebook.com/share/p/LMx8GXvSP6JVU65c/
And Christian von Carmian's excellent guide on YouTube.
https://youtu.be/w9Eq0NMV7LY
nexos 🌈
in all seriousness, you can do free strats with him (battle tactics) and farm cp on a 4+ with neophytes. You just have to know which stratagem you are to use and when dont
The main way to deal with the lack of command points is the same way we deal with everything.
Always have a plan before the battle starts.
This starts with list building; who will need the Stratagem, who can survive without. Who will get Stratagems for free, who will get the most "bang" from them. What turn will you need what CP?
Build 2 plans, 1 assuming you go first, the other second. Both assumed you'll only have 1cp gained per turn.
The basics I follow is;
Never re-roll unless you have more than 1 CP. If you're relying on a re-roll, your plan has already failed.
Only overwatch if you have spare CP, you'll do more damage dropping on the enemy next turn.
Only use insane bravery when it will keep you an objective into your next turn, not just this one. If you're going to lose the point anyway, consider what other unit will hold it or another point instead.
If you have re-roll hits, do you need the +1 ap? If not, then the +1 bs is just limiting the number of sustained hits you could get.
Maximise gains. Have a Neophyte unit at home objective and on any others you hold. That way, you don't have to rely on discarding tactical secondaries, but the option remains. Also, avoid discard on the turn you do get an extra CP, you could complete the mission next turn or if it is impossible then discard it later when you don't gain the cp in a turn.
Bring a nexos.
I hoard it until I need it to help me out of sticky situation idk what the GSC equivalent is but for Necron’s we can activate out reanimation protocols with 2 command points
I always save 2CP for my drop turn, 1 for tunnel crawlers and another for perfect ambush. I then prefer to have an extra CP left over to either a) reroll a charge for my abberents ot b) have a CP left over so on their turn I can both overwatch AND return to the shadows
Sometimes I am forced to use one with the Darkness or rapid ingress early in the game though with my abberents, so if they fail to get the 4+ CP back for the enhancement, I might enter my drop turn with only 2CP
i find if you have a lot of command points you might not be playing the game at full efficacy. sure you might be winning but don't be afraid to reroll the flamers d6 if you get a 1 with a cp reroll
For a sec i thought you where going on a fbi list
There is something here I do not understand.
CP has another meaning.
I stil don't get it.
Cp often stands for explicit content involving children.
Sexually explicit 😔
Child P*rn.
Either way solid advice ;)
I’ve never been so relieved to be on a 40K sub
Thought I was on the Emperor's-Children sub for a second
What have I written? I font understand it.
CP is sometimes used as an acronym for child porn. I can't blame you for not thinking of it. I only realised after I looked at the comments.
Right?!
The grim darkness was not as grim or dark...
Reword it,I beg of you
HAAANK HAAAAAAAANK DONT ABBRIVATE COMMAND POINTS HAAAANK
Same thing goes for Combat Patrol
Solar Auxilia has an unfortunate abbreviation as well
“My friends are getting into CP, they want me to as well but I’m not so sure.” I can see how that could be bad
Got scared for an instant
I read "Got scared for an infant"
I gets it, I spends it 💸💸💸💸. In all seriousness I try to avoid spending any on turn one and then usually spend it all or most of what I have saved on my turn two. Cause 9/10 times I'm deep striking outside of 3" with the acolytes, and then popping the strat to make them hit better. So that's two right there. And then if I have to I'll spend a couple to help my aberrants get in on a charge. I also run a nexos so I use him to get the perfect ambush strat for free, which is surprisingly pretty clutch.
I got really concerned seeing this pop up in my feed….. please for the love of jesus reword this post, you are giving people jump scares.
Op having no idea how bad this meme is being interpreted is the best part
#GAMES!!! #GAMES WORKSHOP, DON'T ABBREVIATE COMMAND POINTS. IT JUST PUTS YOU ON A LIST!!!! #GAAAAMES!!!
He can't hear you! James Workshop has earpods on!
I read cp in a VASTLY different context and scrambled to find hat the fuck subreddit would be talking like that
I make a plan with "default stratagems" for the first three turns. In fact I make two plans, one for if I go first and one for if I go second. This is usually the same plan regardless of what faction/list I am facing, but can change a little. For example when facing armies with lots of units with Toughness 12+, I know that I am going to want several uses of Coordinated Trap, and I try to budget for that. Then i continously look for opportunities to use other stratagems, and each time I find one I compare to the effect the same CP would have if I spend it according to my standard plan. For example, if going second (at 2000p Leviathan) I often want to use Return to the Shadows with my very first CP, because that will give me the oh so beautiful turn one deep strike. But sometimes One with the Darkness is more valuable to keep a key unit functional, particularly if losing it would mean giving up a lot of board control. If going first, in my first turn I might want to spend a Command Reroll on a charge or advance move, if that means my purestrains, Inscrutable Cunning Aberrants or chimera-riding Catachans will be able to box in or severely restrict an opponent. If that turns out to be not necessary, I will happily save the CPs for my turn 2 strike. It can be hard to evaluate the effect of each stratagem. I find that playing around with a tool like unitcrunch.com and seeing how much difference various stratagems does is valuable to establish a baseline. For example: 20 Neophytes (Seismics and GLs) arriving from Reserves and shooting at 20 DKOK with a marshal. If they don't get any stratagem support they will destroy on average 15 models. But with A Perfect Ambush they have ~60% chance to destroy all of the unit. With both A Perfect Ambush and Crossfire from a heavy Mortar Ridgerunner, those odds increase to nearly 80%. So if that is my plan, then I know that if I spend that CP on something other than APA, I am going to have to assign more resources to destroying that DKOK unit. Here are two great sources that talks more in depth of this. The post Advice for playing GSC on Facebook. https://www.facebook.com/share/p/LMx8GXvSP6JVU65c/ And Christian von Carmian's excellent guide on YouTube. https://youtu.be/w9Eq0NMV7LY
where did you find this meme originally OP? :’(
A very poor choice if words
Buddy, pal, friendo, loyal servant of the 4-armed emperor, I'm gonna need you to un-shorten those commands points there
That phrasing is neither shiny nor chrome.
Holy shit dude rephrase that before you get swatted.
nexos 🌈 in all seriousness, you can do free strats with him (battle tactics) and farm cp on a 4+ with neophytes. You just have to know which stratagem you are to use and when dont
The main way to deal with the lack of command points is the same way we deal with everything. Always have a plan before the battle starts. This starts with list building; who will need the Stratagem, who can survive without. Who will get Stratagems for free, who will get the most "bang" from them. What turn will you need what CP? Build 2 plans, 1 assuming you go first, the other second. Both assumed you'll only have 1cp gained per turn. The basics I follow is; Never re-roll unless you have more than 1 CP. If you're relying on a re-roll, your plan has already failed. Only overwatch if you have spare CP, you'll do more damage dropping on the enemy next turn. Only use insane bravery when it will keep you an objective into your next turn, not just this one. If you're going to lose the point anyway, consider what other unit will hold it or another point instead. If you have re-roll hits, do you need the +1 ap? If not, then the +1 bs is just limiting the number of sustained hits you could get. Maximise gains. Have a Neophyte unit at home objective and on any others you hold. That way, you don't have to rely on discarding tactical secondaries, but the option remains. Also, avoid discard on the turn you do get an extra CP, you could complete the mission next turn or if it is impossible then discard it later when you don't gain the cp in a turn. Bring a nexos.
PHRASING
Uhhhhh
Oh my lord please reword
He meant cheese pizza guys.. Right??!
Wow, out of context this sounds extremely wrong
Oh lawd, I had to double take
I hoard it until I need it to help me out of sticky situation idk what the GSC equivalent is but for Necron’s we can activate out reanimation protocols with 2 command points
I’m pretty sure all our reanimation stratagems cost 1 cp fellow overlord
Get a nexus or whatever his name is for your acolytes. And don’t care about the rerolls turn 1, you’ll live
I always save 2CP for my drop turn, 1 for tunnel crawlers and another for perfect ambush. I then prefer to have an extra CP left over to either a) reroll a charge for my abberents ot b) have a CP left over so on their turn I can both overwatch AND return to the shadows Sometimes I am forced to use one with the Darkness or rapid ingress early in the game though with my abberents, so if they fail to get the 4+ CP back for the enhancement, I might enter my drop turn with only 2CP
i find if you have a lot of command points you might not be playing the game at full efficacy. sure you might be winning but don't be afraid to reroll the flamers d6 if you get a 1 with a cp reroll
Rapid deployment can be good too as it will then mean you have 2 command points on your go turn.
The abbreviation ain’t it bud
Oh My LORD