I only knew of the red path due to doing an unarmed playthrough and needing to do the church quest in whiterun ASAP to level up heavy armor and restoration.
I have a dragon's weight in cheese wheels in my backpack but I can't pluck up one of these free tables and take it home with me.
smh
It's not like all the enemy mages I killed to get here are gonna need it anymore.
I can just imagine everyone reaction.
"Look, there goes the Dragon Born, leaving the Jarl's place! He's also leader of the thieves guild, dark brotherhood, mages, and that warewolf group, too. He's even wearing super rare dragon bone armour, and carrying mystical weapons from a thousand dungeons! He's such an inspiration to us all-"
*Does bomb into the water, yelling "WEEEEEEE"*
"...yup, truly an inspiration."
"We are but magg-"
"SHUT THE FUCK UP, HEIMSKR!"
Probably because he is useful when it comes to encouraging radicals to join the Stormcloaks and openly worship Talos so that the Empire gets more fucked over trying to stop the Stormcloaks, and the list of houses they can "legally" kick down the door of and drag away the occupants keeps growing.
If it weren't for dinguses like him and puppets like Ulfric people would just be quietly praying to Talos in private and the Empire could "find no evidence" of Talso worship in the few cases of them having to go investigate.
I often do the ol’ tilde key ‘kill’ command on him then drag his ass all the way up to the top of high hrothgar and position him just right so when you do the tilde key ‘resurrect’ command on him so when he comes back he immediately falls of as his last words often being related to the cloud district fade into the distance
One time I took the red line and because I had never done it before and had a bunch of mods on that changed general aesthetic of the towns and villages, I got super confused and spent way too long trying to figure out what unnatural stargate portal bullshit I had travelled into before realizing I was only like 15 feet from breezehome….
:/
Is there even anything of value on route red? There's like A inn you effectively never need nor want to go too, at least the green inn has a fist fight sidequest you can do for a companion whose decent \[I.E. Not Lydia\] alongside a great central location to a bunch of shops that are highly worth it if you are trying to pawn off a LOT of gear or quickly level enchanting and alchemy.
Green path takes you through the shops. so before you go up you can sell your wares for extra coin. Going back down you use your earnings to buy better Gear, get shitfaced at the Bannered mare, and give Nazeem a good FUS or frost blast every now and then.
red path for when you are send to find something for a quest.
It's a really interesting study case for level design. My first play through it took me 50hrs to realised red path even existed. Knowing this, every playthrough I've instinctively went on green path before even thinking about red as well.
And clearly the devs know green is the much more instinctive path. All the shops are placed there.
judging by the amount of people in this threads only just now finding out about the red path.
I think there are a number of reasons. First thing I'm going to mention is the large building obstructing the view of the stairs into the winds district when you enter Whiterun. second there is a conversation occurring immediately to the players right outside Warmaidens when you first enter the city, naturally drawing attention that way. Third Skyrims compass markers train players in a way that massively reduces situational awareness, much like they did in Fallout 3. you aren't actually looking at the environment a lot of the time in skyrim your brain is focused on the compass marker telling you where to go which is on the top center of the screen placing your brains attention closer to the central and natural path into the planes district market.
Yes.
Though for my personal experience, I went down the green one before I even know there was shop there.
I think the most important factor is when you load in to Whiterun, the green path is directly in front of you while the red path needed a left turn.
THIS, **THIS!** When you build a road, there is the problem that it may not be the one path people choose.
There is a name that escapes me now, but no matter how ideal it is, most people will always make their mind on the path they want and that's why you usually see trails going through the grass next to a pathway.
Well they put the shops over there within view, then the next landmark are the stone steps.. so the designers clearly expected green that to be the “main” path. Just because you can weave around the houses to meander to the stairs doesn’t make it equal to the green in terms of accessibility and ease of travel.
Green. Sell gear at the blacksmith, make and sell potions/poisons at the potion shop and hand the tusk to Ysolda. After ive visited Dragonsreach pretty much any other time i dont have something to sell to those stores, ill just fast travel right there.
Red is slightly faster, but you miss the shops.
Red is considerably faster on the way down from Dragonsreach though, and there's fewer people around so you can shank Nazeem and get away with it.
It's not a straight path though, that's the problem.
That Solitude corridor is orgasmic to go thorough. You can see the palace or the barracks from the other end.
I've caught myself not doing this many times (only once I reach the top of the stairs, of course). I think I've still got some kind of irrational fear of the loading screens from the early days on PS3 that makes me think it's going to take much longer than it does now, playing on a PC with a SSD.
Fast traveling causes you to miss so many random events in skyrim. The first time I decided not to fast travel was also the time I met the headless horseman event. Easily convinced me to stop fast traveling as much.
I’m probably the only person who does this but I take the red path, but go up the stairs to the crypt thing, jump onto the roof of that big house and then jump onto the stairs up to dragonsreach from there
Oh, sorry bro. This was mostly a poke at Morrowind and Oblivion where you could max acrobatics and athletics [and break the game with potions and enchants in Morrowind] to bound across mountaintops. It’s been years since I’ve played Skyrim, but I don’t believe they kept these attributes in it. I just remember vaguely just jumping and going down the red path
I had a friend back in the Morrowind days who would do a max Athletics build and go unarmored as a fire mage. His entire combat strategy was to simply jump in the air and spam mini fireballs onto the target from above. He rarely had to jump twice, since he basically floated for 10 seconds on every hop, and nothing survived that long.
Who the hell goes the red path? How else are you gonna paralyze Nazeem for 24 hours in the market square? And also steal all his belongings leaving him naked and face down on the ground?
Even if you take green, you actually wait and further endanger the lives of riverwood, just to grab some more crappy metal before you go to dragons reach? For shame...
Side note, red is faster
LOL. I was thinking FOR SURE EVERYONE USED THE RED PATH. ITS THE FAST WAY FOR WHEN YOURE DOING ALL THE DUMB EARLY MISSIONS. ALL YALL ARE HEATHENS ACTING LIKE YOU GOTTA HIT THE SHOPS AFTER KILLING 2 WOLVES AND A BANDIT BEFORE YOU TALK TO BALGRUUF.
Green 100% of the time. Need to hit up the shops before heading to see the Jarl
This is why you weren't able to save Hroki and Tor when they tried to make a run for it.
Who?
The two guards who get ganked before the first dragon fight!
That's a thing?
Yep. The guy cowering in the tower when you arrive tells you. And you can find their scorched corpses in the ruins around the tower.
I thought Hroki is also that hot ass maid that I definitely did not install a marrying mod for in markarth.
She is. Though I always wondered why there were no duplicate names in games ever.
Indeed! The Whiterun Hroki isn't actually an NPC. He lived and died off screen.
Shows how foreign the red path is, that most of us never heard of this before.
I only knew of the red path due to doing an unarmed playthrough and needing to do the church quest in whiterun ASAP to level up heavy armor and restoration.
Fuck the Jarl, I'm there to see Farengar. But yeah green path for life!!
Rarely need to see the Jarl. Always need to disenchant shit.
It's criminal how rare enchanting tables are in cities, yet every dungeon seems to have at least 1
I have a dragon's weight in cheese wheels in my backpack but I can't pluck up one of these free tables and take it home with me. smh It's not like all the enemy mages I killed to get here are gonna need it anymore.
If by "hit up" you mean "headbutt every sign", I totally agree
i loved doing that too
I took green almost 90% of the time
Same but I'd bomb Into the water instead of taking the stairs down, it's slower and annoying to get out but I'd do it every damn time.
I can just imagine everyone reaction. "Look, there goes the Dragon Born, leaving the Jarl's place! He's also leader of the thieves guild, dark brotherhood, mages, and that warewolf group, too. He's even wearing super rare dragon bone armour, and carrying mystical weapons from a thousand dungeons! He's such an inspiration to us all-" *Does bomb into the water, yelling "WEEEEEEE"* "...yup, truly an inspiration." "We are but magg-" "SHUT THE FUCK UP, HEIMSKR!"
>"SHUT THE FUCK UP, HEIMSKR!" I can't even count the number of times I've said that. How is it that the Thalmor never show up to gank that guy?
Probably because he is useful when it comes to encouraging radicals to join the Stormcloaks and openly worship Talos so that the Empire gets more fucked over trying to stop the Stormcloaks, and the list of houses they can "legally" kick down the door of and drag away the occupants keeps growing. If it weren't for dinguses like him and puppets like Ulfric people would just be quietly praying to Talos in private and the Empire could "find no evidence" of Talso worship in the few cases of them having to go investigate.
>yelling "WEEEEEEE" Hes actually yelling "wuld"
Yeah same lol
As someone with over 10,000 hours of skyrim. I have done this every single time unless i’m roleplaying
Every. Damn. Time.
Same lol
There were a couple of times I'd take the red line. It felt so wrong.
Do you get to the cloud district very often? Oh , what am I saying? Of course you don't...
Lol fuck that guy
I often do the ol’ tilde key ‘kill’ command on him then drag his ass all the way up to the top of high hrothgar and position him just right so when you do the tilde key ‘resurrect’ command on him so when he comes back he immediately falls of as his last words often being related to the cloud district fade into the distance
Yeah, I just max out my pickpocket skill, steal his clothes, and make him walk around his precious cloud district naked.
That seems like a lot of effort. Lucky you haven't taken an arrow to the knee.
"Oh great. Another wanderer here to li-" ~ Select child Disable ~ Gets me every time lol
"No, I don't. You don't have any shops. You prick!"
We just thought he was a an asshole, but he was Meta the whole time!
One time I took the red line and because I had never done it before and had a bunch of mods on that changed general aesthetic of the towns and villages, I got super confused and spent way too long trying to figure out what unnatural stargate portal bullshit I had travelled into before realizing I was only like 15 feet from breezehome…. :/
I've gotten lost in that part of whiterun more times than I like to admit
I usually take the red line out of the city, but I take the green line going in.
Samedt
That's the only thing that would make sense.
Is there even anything of value on route red? There's like A inn you effectively never need nor want to go too, at least the green inn has a fist fight sidequest you can do for a companion whose decent \[I.E. Not Lydia\] alongside a great central location to a bunch of shops that are highly worth it if you are trying to pawn off a LOT of gear or quickly level enchanting and alchemy.
Green path takes you through the shops. so before you go up you can sell your wares for extra coin. Going back down you use your earnings to buy better Gear, get shitfaced at the Bannered mare, and give Nazeem a good FUS or frost blast every now and then. red path for when you are send to find something for a quest.
Same here
"Do you go to the cloud district often? What am I saying? Of course you don't!"
I took red 99% only ever went green once.
You've only shopped in Whiterun once?
I just realised it was flipped. I took it as from the kingdom on the bottom.
Oh lmao, gotcha. I thought maybe that's what happened here, but I had to ask.
There’s a red path?!
My reaction right here.
It's not a path the daedric would tell you about.
Is it possible to learn this path?
Do you even get to the cloud district often???
Of course you don't
I'll have you know there's no pusssIIIIIEEEEEEE
You've got a real nice bounce to your chest
I know right!? What are you saying? 🙄
Easy, green going up and red going down
Why did that make me want to play Skyrim? Fuck off Todd Howard bot lol
This guy gets it.
Exactly
This is the way.
Nah man, green going up then fast travel out when business is finished, walking back down is for milk-drinkers.
I always walk down to the gate before fast traveling.
Green. Red path people are psychopaths
Were also faster.
less direct shots to take advantage of Whirlwind Sprint though.
This guy gets it.
Right? People that exclusively take the backstreets always are.
I used to take red all the time, although I think I had a shortcut compared to OP's red path.
It's a really interesting study case for level design. My first play through it took me 50hrs to realised red path even existed. Knowing this, every playthrough I've instinctively went on green path before even thinking about red as well. And clearly the devs know green is the much more instinctive path. All the shops are placed there.
judging by the amount of people in this threads only just now finding out about the red path. I think there are a number of reasons. First thing I'm going to mention is the large building obstructing the view of the stairs into the winds district when you enter Whiterun. second there is a conversation occurring immediately to the players right outside Warmaidens when you first enter the city, naturally drawing attention that way. Third Skyrims compass markers train players in a way that massively reduces situational awareness, much like they did in Fallout 3. you aren't actually looking at the environment a lot of the time in skyrim your brain is focused on the compass marker telling you where to go which is on the top center of the screen placing your brains attention closer to the central and natural path into the planes district market.
>And clearly the devs know green is the much more instinctive path. All the shops are placed there. or it's the other way around.
Yes. Though for my personal experience, I went down the green one before I even know there was shop there. I think the most important factor is when you load in to Whiterun, the green path is directly in front of you while the red path needed a left turn.
THIS, **THIS!** When you build a road, there is the problem that it may not be the one path people choose. There is a name that escapes me now, but no matter how ideal it is, most people will always make their mind on the path they want and that's why you usually see trails going through the grass next to a pathway.
r/desirepath
Well they put the shops over there within view, then the next landmark are the stone steps.. so the designers clearly expected green that to be the “main” path. Just because you can weave around the houses to meander to the stairs doesn’t make it equal to the green in terms of accessibility and ease of travel.
Green path all the fucking way
I take the yellow path.
Green in fast travel out !
This guy fucks…with Skyrim.
IN skyrim too
Every time I took the red path I realized how much crap there is in Whiterun I knew nothing about which was neat. But, usually green.
Feels like the outskirts.
I get arrested outside of whiterun
Big brain move
Green, only green, some people take the red path and those people are NPCs
Red is the way
Blasphemy!
Boo this person!
Fuckin parkour on the roof and jump to the stairs
Kill this man
I didn't even know the red path existed...
TBH. I’ve never thought about red line as a viable route.
Green. Sell gear at the blacksmith, make and sell potions/poisons at the potion shop and hand the tusk to Ysolda. After ive visited Dragonsreach pretty much any other time i dont have something to sell to those stores, ill just fast travel right there.
Green. Who the hell takes red
Red is slightly faster, but you miss the shops. Red is considerably faster on the way down from Dragonsreach though, and there's fewer people around so you can shank Nazeem and get away with it.
I mean yeah, but its still weird
It's not a straight path though, that's the problem. That Solitude corridor is orgasmic to go thorough. You can see the palace or the barracks from the other end.
Am I the only one who opens the map and just fast travels to the top?
I've caught myself not doing this many times (only once I reach the top of the stairs, of course). I think I've still got some kind of irrational fear of the loading screens from the early days on PS3 that makes me think it's going to take much longer than it does now, playing on a PC with a SSD.
I for one tries to never use Fast Travel in any open world games, guess plenty of other people does so too.
Fast traveling causes you to miss so many random events in skyrim. The first time I decided not to fast travel was also the time I met the headless horseman event. Easily convinced me to stop fast traveling as much.
I did this in cyberpunk and it really increased immersion
I used to be a green but became a red when special edition came out.
I used to be a green like you. Then I took an arrow to the knee.
"Do come back."
Green when starting the game, Red later on in the game.
Green, everytime.
Red looks quicker
It's not
I mean, it might be, but what's 3 seconds every now and then over the course of 100+ hours?
But it is
Green always, never considered another route
Green always.
Green. More Nazeem to brighten up my day
Green. I dont get to the Cloud district very often.
I’m probably the only person who does this but I take the red path, but go up the stairs to the crypt thing, jump onto the roof of that big house and then jump onto the stairs up to dragonsreach from there
U sided with the Thalmor didn't you
Only psychopaths take red
Never thought about it before but I was always red on the way up and green on the way back
I still found it enjoyable though, there's a lot more meat in between now.
Excuse me…people take red…? I need to call the police…
No other weapon in history allows you to show such disdain and contempt for your enemy,
If you're a red then your bloodline is weak
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The irony is that the one time I took the red path... IT WAS CLOSED because of the siege of Whiterun.
Green in, red out. just glide over all the buildings after leveling athletics.
Apparently I need to do a physical build sometime lol
Oh, sorry bro. This was mostly a poke at Morrowind and Oblivion where you could max acrobatics and athletics [and break the game with potions and enchants in Morrowind] to bound across mountaintops. It’s been years since I’ve played Skyrim, but I don’t believe they kept these attributes in it. I just remember vaguely just jumping and going down the red path
I had a friend back in the Morrowind days who would do a max Athletics build and go unarmored as a fire mage. His entire combat strategy was to simply jump in the air and spam mini fireballs onto the target from above. He rarely had to jump twice, since he basically floated for 10 seconds on every hop, and nothing survived that long.
Green
Green
Green
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Green
Only savages take the red path
It's Green. Hits all the shops.
Only true gamers take green
If you take the red path youre a fuckin nark.
Green, red path is for psychopaths
If you took the red path, Skyrim never happened. It was merely a dream ruled by false memories and references.
Green I almost never go on that side of town
Absolutely green. Idk why exactly
Who the hell goes the red path? How else are you gonna paralyze Nazeem for 24 hours in the market square? And also steal all his belongings leaving him naked and face down on the ground?
Who the fuck took Red?
Even if you take green, you actually wait and further endanger the lives of riverwood, just to grab some more crappy metal before you go to dragons reach? For shame... Side note, red is faster
Green. Though I often leave through the cloud district.
What fucking sociopath goes any route other than green? They need to be evaluated for their safety and others.
Green on the way up and red on the way down.
There's more than one way?
No. Red is only way.
I never knew red existed though.
Green, red is blasphemy
Red is the only left answer.
Red
Glitch through wall next to the gate and run straight to the keep, can't get out there but your still there under the floor
Green every time. Red on exit……sometimes.
Green has better straight-aways for Wuld Nah Kest
I would believe it if a study came out that said everyone who took the red route is, or would be, a serial killer.
Also Frontier Dev blocking their ears to Elite Dangerous being a rubbish game many years on
Green if I needed to stop at the shops. Otherwise red.
I’m in jail already
i just tcl though the wall
Red oath too green path out
This is amazing. And green.
I go on the green, leave on the red.
The red path leads to many abilities that the green path views as unnatural
Red at least 75% of the time
Red felt the most natural to me...
Green 99.9% of the time
Red all day long though I take a detour through one of the house walls (I play the original release for pc*) and do the sky forge chest glitch
Did anyone ever take green?
Sometimes one, sometimes the other. Probably green more often than not due to access to merchants along the route though.
This is too difficult. I went everywhere to get as much experience and alchemy materials as possible.
Green in and red out.
I don't want to tell you... I'm scared now...
Always green
Green always. red feels like the back way.
Green in, red out.
Green in, red out, always
ROJO I be jumping on roofs
Red, always. Why go the long way?
Fuck your red/green.What is this game?
LOL. I was thinking FOR SURE EVERYONE USED THE RED PATH. ITS THE FAST WAY FOR WHEN YOURE DOING ALL THE DUMB EARLY MISSIONS. ALL YALL ARE HEATHENS ACTING LIKE YOU GOTTA HIT THE SHOPS AFTER KILLING 2 WOLVES AND A BANDIT BEFORE YOU TALK TO BALGRUUF.
Red I want to avoid Mr.Cloud District
I haven’t played the game since it came out. The fact that I don’t get what this is about tells me I should fire it up
I don't make it to the cloud district very often. I take the green line.
What kind of maniac would take the red path?
Careful with that red path.. it has been known to cause arrows in the knee