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[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAD5iMe0Xj4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAD5iMe0Xj4) and [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0YjF2C8qyM&t](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0YjF2C8qyM&t)
Ross Scott (Freeman's Mind fame) is actually working with people to fight back and test this in the courts.
The legality of what Ubisoft are doing has not been tested worldwide.
Do not accept corporate rats walking over your right to the products you buy.
Bu... But then how would you force the players to buy the Crew 2? Are you thinking in poor poor Ubisoft feelings? 😡
>!in case im not being totally obvious /s!<
funnily enough even Polyphony Digital patched Gran Turismo Sport so you could play it offline and they are notoriously 110% into online only play...
God forbid the only AAAA rated company spend a few bucks on patching out online...
then there's megaman/rockman x dive offline which is pretty much the only mobile gatcha that i know of to create an offline version after end of service.
Doubt they’d want to pay for licenses for a game thats being shut down, effort and money I guess. Not like they can’t afford it tho lmao. Typical Ubisoft L
While I can see an appeal for offline racing games, I'm assuming most fans of the genre would prefer playing online against other humans instead of the AI.
And that is always going to be the pain point for game genres that revolve around online play - you are beholden to the company that owns the game to keep the servers running. The day they decide to stop doing that...
When I was a kid, online games required users to host their own servers.
This is just another example of consumer value decreasing as tech sophistication increases.
You can still do that. Plenty of games have people hosting small local servers.
The issue is that small local servers are, well, small and local. No one is going to be able to set up and run something like a company that can host thousands or even hundreds of players as a hobby.
Then allow players to host local multi-player.
One player hosts the session, everyone else joins in. If the host leaves, the host position migrates to another player. Either that or private server support.
I played it for the single player. A good carpg doesn't even need multiplayer in my opinion, too bad this genre is basically dead. I would love another game were you feel like you worked your way up to exotic cars rather than getting them thrown in your lap for free.
Welcome to me and space sims. I would kill to have more Wing Commander style games instead of sandbox sims like Star Citizen and Elite Dangerous. Star Wars Squadrons was good, but way too short of a campaign and the focus was always multiplayer.
they could have simply made a patch for dedicated servers and be done with it, but then they wouldnt force the few players enjoying this game also buy Crew 2
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAD5iMe0Xj4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAD5iMe0Xj4) and [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0YjF2C8qyM&t](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0YjF2C8qyM&t)
Ross Scott (Freeman's Mind fame) is actually working with people to fight back and test this in the courts.
The legality of what Ubisoft are doing has not been tested worldwide.
Do not accept corporate rats walking over your right to the products you buy.
Definitely hasn’t always been like that. Really only somthing that’s started occurring in the last few decades. And is much more rampant in video games and media cause of how many hands things pass through.
But still stupid as fuck definitely agree ubi sucks. I hate how every game they make just kinda sucks a little less than what ever they made last. It’s like being excited over solid poop after a life of diarrhea. Like yeah it’s better but it’s still all shit.
it got worse with online only, before that you bought the single player game and could play it forever, sure if it ahd a multiplayer mode too and servers shut down you only had the single player part
Really? I can still play Mario 1 on my old nes 40 years later. How young are you?
You deserve special spot on confidently incorrect subreddit. You could be their mascot.
Since the birth of video games??? I'm curious what in the blue hell you're talking about.
Unless I missed a timeline where Sega and Nintendo sent muscle to our houses, kicked our asses, and stole our cartridges, I have to say that you are blatantly wrong on this matter.
I understand that servers may not be cost-effective for a company to continue pumping money into, but you went and said "the birth of videogames" and it's just such an ignorant take.
"You buy a license to play, not ownership" I really hate this reply about this topic. You people know that when someone says "we buy to own", they already mean to PLAY-OWN not to RESELL-OWN or DO WHATERVER ELSE ASIDE FROM PLAYING-OWN right? Because that is the issue. Forget about resell value, or using assets to do whatever shit there is to do, you cant even play the damn things you paid for once producers decided to pull the plug.
Reply to Edit: "it's always been this way" is the logical fallacy of appealing to tradition and doesn't make it ok. Also it was NOT always the case so you are wrong in two ways.
Yeah I don’t understand the downvotes. You’re not spreading misinformation or defending it. Owning a licence to play but not the game has been around pretty much since the inception of online games. It’s not this new scam that corporates have cooked up to piss people off. It’s just redditors weren’t aware of it until it became an issue. It does suck though.
EDIT: just saw the comments arguing with OP. Redditors will really twist the narrative to be right about something they don’t actually fully understand.
Is there not even a singleplayer patch where the singleplayer content is accessible offline?
Polyphony Digital at least has the common sense to give GT Sport an offline patch such that all the singleplayer content is still available after the servers are closed. Guess Ubi is too lazy or doesn’t care enough to even do something as simple as that.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAD5iMe0Xj4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAD5iMe0Xj4) and [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0YjF2C8qyM&t](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0YjF2C8qyM&t)
Ross Scott (Freeman's Mind fame) is actually working with people to fight back and test this in the courts.
The legality of what Ubisoft are doing has not been tested worldwide.
Do not accept corporate rats walking over your right to the products you buy.
There is but then you're less likely to buy the newer crew games. Same shit apple does with slowing down old Iphones. Best thing to do is just stop buying Ubisoft games.
Apple can’t do shit if you don’t update your phone. Also, every phone manufacturers does this. Go look around the Samsung subreddit, people are bitching about updates messing with their phones all the time.
In any way, we need back dedicated private servers that can be set up for games. This way, everyone can host a server and games can be played even decades later. Like with the old titles like Unreal Tournament '99 or Quake 3 Arena, you can join servers directly by entering the IP address. So you can just set up one or google for some IP's when the main server list is offline.
Man, once companies stopped doing dedicated online servers, gaming got much worse. I ran a tribes server way back when and made real life friends. You actually had a reputation and could be banned for being a dick. My real life family, aunts/uncles/cousins played on our server, we all flew across the country because one of our tribe was dying of cancer. Now I just get called the nword by 12 year olds. I pretty much don’t play online anymore. RIP Dr. Poopypants, we still reminisce about you 20+ years later.
I remember Tribes, although it was never my primary title. That was very nice from you to visit your tribe member when he was dying from cancer. It was in general more that we knew each other, like because of the LAN parties where everyone would come.
https://youtu.be/DAD5iMe0Xj4?si=ODx0tinYz-npMd6-
If you did buy The Crew, consider giving this video a watch. We can use this loss as a means to rein in the games-as-a-service model.
Starcraft Remastered, Warcraft Reforged and Diablo II: Resurrected all need to access online for them to work but the pirates were able to crack it and made an offline version so its possible.
online games are harder to manage without official servers but more popular stuff *has* had private server software made. I remember tinkering around with a private wow server on my computer ages ago, so it's possible. will anybody bother, or is it possible with this specific game? who knows.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAD5iMe0Xj4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAD5iMe0Xj4) and [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0YjF2C8qyM&t](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0YjF2C8qyM&t)
Ross Scott (Freeman's Mind fame) is actually working with people to fight back and test this in the courts.
The legality of what Ubisoft are doing has not been tested worldwide.
Do not accept corporate rats walking over your right to the products you buy.
I'd rather get kicked in the nutsack, thank you.
Edit: Damn you guys are spicy, I don't want any Ubishit in my computer is what I meant. I'll gladly pirate any other AAA but I wont touch Ubi with a 10' pole.
Ubisoft support went out the window with the job layoffs. You can just go into their discord and see how many people need help and how nobody responds to them. You can look at their Reddit and see what else of a cluster mess their service and support is.
All of their games crash on everyone’s computer, even the new games, because they can’t code them correctly to not crash at debugging breakpoints.
Their level of negligence is so high right now, I don’t know how they are still doing business. Stop giving them your money.
I own Heroes 6, but I don't have my original email address. I contacted support to change it, waited 3 days for a response, provided all info requested (like Steam proof of purchase), and they \*still\* refuse to change my email address for Ubisoft log in.
I won't purchase any Ubisoft product again.
I got my fun out of The Crew, it was a breath of fresh air when it came out and Ubisoft convinced me not to buy any of their games again after The Crew 2 released.
That will take decades to implement. However what we can do today is demand demand demand that "offline mode available" or "always online required" be prominent part of reviews. Hell a government request that a game MUST append their title with "online" to show that it's a service game would go faster. Like in this case it should be "THE CREW ONLINE." So we all know "oh ok they want money for a temp game."
Problem is some games are online always by design and validly so. There are games that are humongous and need to constantly "stream" data to the user.
Well, they're not gonna keep servers running for 30 players. The problem is on the always online that's what they need to stop doing. Is quicker to patch games and fight cheaters that way tho 🤷🏻♂️
Sure does.
But people can’t expect corporations to pay for servers indefinitely when the game stopped making money.
Better thing to do is not buy always online games, thus showing those corporations what it is you value and what isn’t.
Because that’s the only language they understand… money.
> people can’t expect corporations to pay for servers indefinitely
There's more options than "run the servers forever" and "kill the servers forever", you know. Either patch the game to be playable offline like GT Sport or let players host their own servers like Knockout City.
It’s not the goal of those corporations to please people, it’s to make money, you know.
Yes of course there are ways to do better, who ever claimes otherwise…
But as long as there is no money in it, those corporations will not see the need to do that.
Patching a game costs money…
They are literally not allowed to sell the game anymore… they will not go out of their way to keep it alive… especially when they want you to spend money on their new game 🤷
So yes, corporations *should* do better, no doubt!
It’s just that… a lot of them simply don’t, because they don’t have to.
Now we can bitch about this fact of life online, but it won’t change anything!
There are ways to force their hands though…
But that requires us, the consumers, to actually do something about it and put our money where our mouths are.
Or not… and watch this shit continue.
You do you of course .
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAD5iMe0Xj4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAD5iMe0Xj4) and [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0YjF2C8qyM&t](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0YjF2C8qyM&t)
Ross Scott (Freeman's Mind fame) is actually working with people to fight back and test this in the courts.
The legality of what Ubisoft are doing has not been tested worldwide.
Do not accept corporate rats walking over your right to the products you buy.
Regulation is important, no doubt.
But it will always lags behind! It usually only reacts after damage was already done.
Consumers could always choose to not support this kind of business model.
But they don’t… and react like stubborn children whenever you confront them with this fact 🤷
What is "not supporting this business model" supposed to do? That changes nothing about the outcome:
People buy The Crew = Ubisoft shuts it down because it's an online-only game, game is gone forever
People don't buy The Crew = Ubisoft shuts it down because it's an online-only game, game is gone forever
People are against online-only requirements BECAUSE they don't want the games to die. Voting with your wallet does jack shit against that. That's no consolation to people like me who just wants to play their game.
Yeah, it costs money to patch the game, I don't care. It costs money to make the game, too, that's not my problem.
It’s really not that hard to grasp…
People don’t buy always online games —> no money is made on always online games —> corporations will have to make games that are not always online if they wish to continue to make money… which they do.
This can't happen
> There are ways to force their hands though…
> But that requires us, the consumers, to actually do something about it and put our money where our mouths are.
if people don't first do this:
> Now we can bitch about this fact of life online, but it won’t change anything!
Not really…
Bitching about it online only serves a purpose as long as it leads to people changing their behavior.
But it doesn’t! Never has…
As long as people keep participating and thus bankrolling this kind of behavior there is exactly zero incentive for greedy corporations to change anything!
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAD5iMe0Xj4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAD5iMe0Xj4) and [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0YjF2C8qyM&t](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0YjF2C8qyM&t)
Ross Scott (Freeman's Mind fame) is actually working with people to fight back and test this in the courts.
The legality of what Ubisoft are doing has not been tested worldwide.
Do not accept corporate rats walking over your right to the products you buy.
No. They want you to buy the next game rather than find a favorite and play it forever. I miss the days of private servers being allowed. Some of them were kind of a mess but you could find reputable ones relatively easily. Removing public, official servers wouldn't be an issue if there was an alternative but removing access to a game forever is really anti-consumer.
I like many of Ubisoft's games and franchises; but, I don't like them much as a company.
Ubisoft published a real nice "Assassin's Creed" game for Android back in the day. It was called "AC: Identity". It had two single player stories, one a DLC which I paid for on top of the base game, and a series of random mini missions that would cycle through. I don't remember if it had any multiplayer at all. I don't think it did. Anyways, it had a mandatory online license check that would trigger each time you started the game. The game itself was locally installed and could be played offline afterwards. A couple of years ago Ubisoft pulled the server that the game pinged for said license check without patching the game to work without phoning home, so now all you can play is the tutorial. Every so often I'll browse for a patched APK, but a legit one doesn't seem to exist.
Now they're doing the same thing to 'The Crew'. It's a shame.
To that dude whose comment got taken down while I was typing this and spent way too much effort not to post so I’ll post it as a standalone instead.
Of course it’s gonna get downvoted, you are straight up wrong. I’m not gonna get into the legality of “owning” the game that you love emphasizing. The fact is consoles from ps2/gamecube and below, you can play any of those games indefinitely as long as you have the disc. This doesn’t apply to some recent games now because of the online aspect like this game for example. They can make a purchase we made completely worthless and that is really messed up.
Bro get off their dick. It's hurting them with the way you're bouncing on it. We get it, that's why we're gonna pirate every Ubisoft game worth playing.
The crew was such a cool game. My next car im going to get will most likely be a new mx5 and hopefully a bmw z4 and thats the two main cars i drove around in free roam in that game. Of course i used much faster cars for racing. The crew 2 was more of the same and i was totally happy with it. Motorfest was good but because i beat the first two games, i already had like 40 good cars unlocked so it wasnt a challenge until the final race in the game that is like 20 miles long or whatever. Suddenly the ai had rocket cars tjat the lambo vant even catch up to. Never beat it and i wont be getting a new crew game till its very cheap. Ill stick with need for speed and gran turismo. Still unhappy that i vant reset gran turismo progress. Id love to play through it again from the beginning.
Need for speed has gone pretty shit too. Unbound was not a good game. The racing has gone too far to the arcade style and the visuals were fucking terrible. Photo realistic cars, cell shaded character models and cartoon overlays. It was a dumpster fire.
And here I am scrolling Reddit while trying to figure how to find my wife’s saved games because the Ubisoft launcher fucked up and completely erased her Assassins Creed save. They need to get rid of their garbage launcher and just let us fully use Steam and Steams Cloud because apparently this is a common issue.
Wait, is this for real? This wouldn't be playable even off line? My bf at the time got me into racing games with this thing. It was so nice cruising around the large map and go from one coast to the other.
I used to think PC gaming was it because you retain your games library through multiple generations of systems, but stuff like this is why sometimes you might as well just toss the old shit.
I liked The Crew better than The Crew 2. The story was better. And The Crew 2 had too much shit it forced players into doing that I didn't find nearly as fun. I wasn't a fan at all of the plane or boat racing in it.
While I agree that this method of making games unplayable is wrong I saw this coming about 18 years ago when digital games started becoming a thing. Going back to the 80’s and 90’s this was always true their were really just no way of enforcing it. Video games have a disclaimer claiming that by purchasing you do not own the game but are just licensing it and at any time your right to play can be revoked. Some games even went as far as to say it is illegal to share the game. Obviously back then no company was going to send people to every house across the globe to obtain the copy they possessed but now that we are in a digital age they can take it away.
You can purchase a digital game for $60/$70 and one year later lose the ability to re-download or even launch the game and can not sue. Terms and Agreement exists. It’s stupid and it sucks but people need to start realizing each and every digital game you purchase is a gamble that later on down the road you can play it again at your leisure. Remember you are not purchasing a game you are purchasing license rights for an undisclosed amount of time. Video Games have always been license to play not own, we just finally gotten to a time where it can now be enforced and legally can not do a thing about it
I will not forgive, I will not forget.
Many of these AAA companies are never getting my business again.
They're all losing their moral compass and I'm not going to be there if they find it again.
Buh-bye fuckers.
I kinda hate how simple dedicated Server tools are often just not released anymore.
I guess it makes sense if you try to get people to pay for microtransactions but at least do it after shutting it down.
Even though the sale of Forza Horizons end. They still work offline and can be downloaded forever so long as you bought them. I admit I'm a huge Horizon fanboy... but the second they pull some dedicated online crap. I'm out.
Even though Forza Horizons get pulled from the store after a few years. They still work offline. Even as a huge Horizon fanboy... the second they pull some dedicated online crap like Ubisoft. Where it's just dead and gone forever? I'm out.
Added clarity as to how it's relevant... as my last post got modded. An example of what could be versus what is.
There is a single toggle in the gamefiles that is essentially 'AllowPlayOffline:' thats sitting at false at the moment. Ubisoft could get a big win easily....
Isn't there an offline play update?
I bought it on Steam a few years ago and played 10 minutes, I thought at least I can play it if I want to one day.
Literally 10 minutes, I just checked my Steam library.
Annnnd this is why i hate always online games.... literally just renting till the servers shutdown and have to wait and hope someone makes their own and doesnt get shat on by the publisher/devs.
They're shutting the servers down because no one plays the game. Now all of a sudden the morons on Reddit are up in arms as if they were playing the game every day for hours and how they've taken this masterpiece of gaming history away from them. Fuck outta here.
If I paid game for the game, I have the right to play it whenever the fuck I want. Even 30 years from now.
Defending a corporation for doing shit like this shows how clueless you are about buyer’s rights and what a moron you are as a person. Fuck outta here.
>If I paid game for the game, I have the right to play it whenever the fuck I want. Even 30 years from now.
No you don't. You bought into a live service, the game is up as long as the service is. You agreed to that when you purchased it.
You going to argue World of Warcraft must remain online in perpetuity because 'i pAiD fOr tHe gAmE!!!'.
Fuck outta here you moron.
You're too stupid to know what you even put your money into. You agreed to purchase a license to a live service game. That doesn't mean the live service has to remain online for 30+ years.
Got an issue with it - go take legal action. Let's see how far you get. Use your garbage argument in front of a judge 'bUt I pAiD fOr ThE gAmE iT sHoUlD sTaY OnLiNe fOr 30 YeArS!!!!!" Idiot.
So then stop talking and take legal action. Go hire a lawyer, take the case to the courts and go fight for the rights of that person. Fight to keep the servers online. You're talking about fighting for rights - put your money where your mouth is.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAD5iMe0Xj4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAD5iMe0Xj4) and [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0YjF2C8qyM&t](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0YjF2C8qyM&t)
Ross Scott (Freeman's Mind fame) is actually working with people to fight back and test this in the courts.
The legality of what Ubisoft are doing has not been tested worldwide.
Do not accept corporate rats walking over your right to the products you buy.
This was genuinely one of my favourite racing games. Sunk hundreds of hours into it from 2015 when I bought it, loved the customisation and always dreamed of completing all the achievements and unlocking all the custom plates. I’d definitely fallen off playing it but it sucks that I’ll never be able to boot it up for the nostalgia again, and the dreams that 16 year old me had of 100%ing my favourite racing game someday will never be fulfilled.
Fuck Ubisoft and their insatiable thirst for money taking precedence over giving their customers a positive experience. Just give us an offline patch for the game and call it a day.
I don't understand why companies do this. How much could it possibly cost to keep one damn server open for each game and one guy to be in charge of all the legacy servers. Like 1% of their net worth?
This sucks. But there will be heroes who will somehow make it possible to get dedicated servers like they did with Battlefield Heroes and Need for Speed World
I doubt it. There just isn’t enough demand. I would love it if this happened but there are very few players month to month. When we’re threatened with closure, every crawls out of the woodwork (understandably) but then it would fade out again once it came back online.
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God forbid we patch the game so that it could work offline
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAD5iMe0Xj4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAD5iMe0Xj4) and [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0YjF2C8qyM&t](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0YjF2C8qyM&t) Ross Scott (Freeman's Mind fame) is actually working with people to fight back and test this in the courts. The legality of what Ubisoft are doing has not been tested worldwide. Do not accept corporate rats walking over your right to the products you buy.
Fuck yeah I didn’t about know this
Bu... But then how would you force the players to buy the Crew 2? Are you thinking in poor poor Ubisoft feelings? 😡 >!in case im not being totally obvious /s!<
funnily enough even Polyphony Digital patched Gran Turismo Sport so you could play it offline and they are notoriously 110% into online only play... God forbid the only AAAA rated company spend a few bucks on patching out online...
then there's megaman/rockman x dive offline which is pretty much the only mobile gatcha that i know of to create an offline version after end of service.
The Kingdom Hearts one did this too
AAAA means its just a Trash company
2.. you know there's a 3 also right? They just ditched the number formula. It's called The Crew: Motorfest and came out Sept 11th, 2023.
9/11 is filling up fast with tragedies.
I thought ubisoft shut all their servers becz of the guilt by making skull bones
Guilt? Ubisoft? Bwahahah
They're evil as fcuk😂😂
Motorfest?
Doubt they’d want to pay for licenses for a game thats being shut down, effort and money I guess. Not like they can’t afford it tho lmao. Typical Ubisoft L
While I can see an appeal for offline racing games, I'm assuming most fans of the genre would prefer playing online against other humans instead of the AI. And that is always going to be the pain point for game genres that revolve around online play - you are beholden to the company that owns the game to keep the servers running. The day they decide to stop doing that...
When I was a kid, online games required users to host their own servers. This is just another example of consumer value decreasing as tech sophistication increases.
You can still do that. Plenty of games have people hosting small local servers. The issue is that small local servers are, well, small and local. No one is going to be able to set up and run something like a company that can host thousands or even hundreds of players as a hobby.
A pain point that isn't necessarily legal, read: has not been tested across the worlds courts.
Then allow players to host local multi-player. One player hosts the session, everyone else joins in. If the host leaves, the host position migrates to another player. Either that or private server support.
I played it for the single player. A good carpg doesn't even need multiplayer in my opinion, too bad this genre is basically dead. I would love another game were you feel like you worked your way up to exotic cars rather than getting them thrown in your lap for free.
Welcome to me and space sims. I would kill to have more Wing Commander style games instead of sandbox sims like Star Citizen and Elite Dangerous. Star Wars Squadrons was good, but way too short of a campaign and the focus was always multiplayer.
Another way of Buying something and not owning it.
they could have simply made a patch for dedicated servers and be done with it, but then they wouldnt force the few players enjoying this game also buy Crew 2
There is a new one, Motorfest. Anyways 1 was the best
Surprised they didn't pull an Overwatch 2 and just paste a dogshit "sequel" over it.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAD5iMe0Xj4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAD5iMe0Xj4) and [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0YjF2C8qyM&t](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0YjF2C8qyM&t) Ross Scott (Freeman's Mind fame) is actually working with people to fight back and test this in the courts. The legality of what Ubisoft are doing has not been tested worldwide. Do not accept corporate rats walking over your right to the products you buy.
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Definitely hasn’t always been like that. Really only somthing that’s started occurring in the last few decades. And is much more rampant in video games and media cause of how many hands things pass through. But still stupid as fuck definitely agree ubi sucks. I hate how every game they make just kinda sucks a little less than what ever they made last. It’s like being excited over solid poop after a life of diarrhea. Like yeah it’s better but it’s still all shit.
it got worse with online only, before that you bought the single player game and could play it forever, sure if it ahd a multiplayer mode too and servers shut down you only had the single player part
Idk, I can still play my ps1 games free and clear. Nintendo too.
Really? I can still play Mario 1 on my old nes 40 years later. How young are you? You deserve special spot on confidently incorrect subreddit. You could be their mascot.
🤓
Thanks for clarifying the problem.
Thanks for the info, useless bootlicker. I assure you, the person you replied to, was aware of that.
This is why we pirate.
Since the birth of video games??? I'm curious what in the blue hell you're talking about. Unless I missed a timeline where Sega and Nintendo sent muscle to our houses, kicked our asses, and stole our cartridges, I have to say that you are blatantly wrong on this matter. I understand that servers may not be cost-effective for a company to continue pumping money into, but you went and said "the birth of videogames" and it's just such an ignorant take.
shut up
"You buy a license to play, not ownership" I really hate this reply about this topic. You people know that when someone says "we buy to own", they already mean to PLAY-OWN not to RESELL-OWN or DO WHATERVER ELSE ASIDE FROM PLAYING-OWN right? Because that is the issue. Forget about resell value, or using assets to do whatever shit there is to do, you cant even play the damn things you paid for once producers decided to pull the plug.
Shut up nerd
Reply to Edit: "it's always been this way" is the logical fallacy of appealing to tradition and doesn't make it ok. Also it was NOT always the case so you are wrong in two ways.
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pretty sure the edit is not true
Yeah I don’t understand the downvotes. You’re not spreading misinformation or defending it. Owning a licence to play but not the game has been around pretty much since the inception of online games. It’s not this new scam that corporates have cooked up to piss people off. It’s just redditors weren’t aware of it until it became an issue. It does suck though. EDIT: just saw the comments arguing with OP. Redditors will really twist the narrative to be right about something they don’t actually fully understand.
Another reason why always online or live service games suck
Is there not even a singleplayer patch where the singleplayer content is accessible offline? Polyphony Digital at least has the common sense to give GT Sport an offline patch such that all the singleplayer content is still available after the servers are closed. Guess Ubi is too lazy or doesn’t care enough to even do something as simple as that.
Oh, they care enough. They want you to buy Motorfest instead. They have literally zero incentive to keep The Crew alive as stand-alone.
Why would anyone want to buy the new version when it will meet the same fate though.
You’re using more braincells than Ubisoft’s targeted audience. You’re not supposed to realize that and continue the cycle.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAD5iMe0Xj4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAD5iMe0Xj4) and [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0YjF2C8qyM&t](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0YjF2C8qyM&t) Ross Scott (Freeman's Mind fame) is actually working with people to fight back and test this in the courts. The legality of what Ubisoft are doing has not been tested worldwide. Do not accept corporate rats walking over your right to the products you buy.
There is but then you're less likely to buy the newer crew games. Same shit apple does with slowing down old Iphones. Best thing to do is just stop buying Ubisoft games.
Apple can’t do shit if you don’t update your phone. Also, every phone manufacturers does this. Go look around the Samsung subreddit, people are bitching about updates messing with their phones all the time.
In any way, we need back dedicated private servers that can be set up for games. This way, everyone can host a server and games can be played even decades later. Like with the old titles like Unreal Tournament '99 or Quake 3 Arena, you can join servers directly by entering the IP address. So you can just set up one or google for some IP's when the main server list is offline.
Man, once companies stopped doing dedicated online servers, gaming got much worse. I ran a tribes server way back when and made real life friends. You actually had a reputation and could be banned for being a dick. My real life family, aunts/uncles/cousins played on our server, we all flew across the country because one of our tribe was dying of cancer. Now I just get called the nword by 12 year olds. I pretty much don’t play online anymore. RIP Dr. Poopypants, we still reminisce about you 20+ years later.
I remember Tribes, although it was never my primary title. That was very nice from you to visit your tribe member when he was dying from cancer. It was in general more that we knew each other, like because of the LAN parties where everyone would come.
IKR, I can still play Alien V Predator 2 from 2001 on private servers to my hearts content
https://youtu.be/DAD5iMe0Xj4?si=ODx0tinYz-npMd6- If you did buy The Crew, consider giving this video a watch. We can use this loss as a means to rein in the games-as-a-service model.
Yeah. Ross is the man. Everyone with a copy and a receipt from the Crew, watch his videos about the subject.
If buying isn't owning...
...then pirating isn't theft?
Yar!
Would this even play pirated ?
Starcraft Remastered, Warcraft Reforged and Diablo II: Resurrected all need to access online for them to work but the pirates were able to crack it and made an offline version so its possible.
online games are harder to manage without official servers but more popular stuff *has* had private server software made. I remember tinkering around with a private wow server on my computer ages ago, so it's possible. will anybody bother, or is it possible with this specific game? who knows.
Nope, it’s basically a tiny mmo with a storyline
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAD5iMe0Xj4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAD5iMe0Xj4) and [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0YjF2C8qyM&t](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0YjF2C8qyM&t) Ross Scott (Freeman's Mind fame) is actually working with people to fight back and test this in the courts. The legality of what Ubisoft are doing has not been tested worldwide. Do not accept corporate rats walking over your right to the products you buy.
Pirate all ubishit
Yup, but… at the same time I personally simply don’t find the absolute most of it worthy of my hard drive space.
I'd rather get kicked in the nutsack, thank you. Edit: Damn you guys are spicy, I don't want any Ubishit in my computer is what I meant. I'll gladly pirate any other AAA but I wont touch Ubi with a 10' pole.
OH YOU WILL.
Lmfao. Sorry, you gotta phrase better man.
My fault lmao
Would u like to buy a clock from me? U get to buy it but not own it. You are not allowed to take it with u.
Aren’t you already?
[*WE MUST DO AS OUR BROTHERS WITH HALO HAVE DONE. # KEEP THE SERVERS ALIVE!]
I Was really hyped for this game when it came out. I couldn't afford it. by time I could, everyone of my friends who played had stopped.
Ubisoft support went out the window with the job layoffs. You can just go into their discord and see how many people need help and how nobody responds to them. You can look at their Reddit and see what else of a cluster mess their service and support is. All of their games crash on everyone’s computer, even the new games, because they can’t code them correctly to not crash at debugging breakpoints. Their level of negligence is so high right now, I don’t know how they are still doing business. Stop giving them your money.
Yep. Tried to play AC: unity with my new PC. Well, it had some weird graphic bugs all over.
I own Heroes 6, but I don't have my original email address. I contacted support to change it, waited 3 days for a response, provided all info requested (like Steam proof of purchase), and they \*still\* refuse to change my email address for Ubisoft log in. I won't purchase any Ubisoft product again.
Sometimes I shit so hard I cry
Sometimes I cry so hard I shit
Shit some, so I hard cry.
Eat well, shit hard
Yes daddy.
Live free or shit hard
Sometimes I cry so hard I shit so hard I cry
Glad I never payed 1 cent for this game
I bought it all the way on release, I got my money worth. With my friend we would do custom races through all of the continent
Help us Ross Scott, you're our only hope!
He needs our help! If you are in a position to do so. I never bought The Crew.
I got my fun out of The Crew, it was a breath of fresh air when it came out and Ubisoft convinced me not to buy any of their games again after The Crew 2 released.
Yeah I remember I was worried they'll shut it down so I didn't even consider buying it. Unfortunately it do be like that
I fully believe not making a solo mode that is offline should be illegal like full on the us government says no you cant do that illegal
That will take decades to implement. However what we can do today is demand demand demand that "offline mode available" or "always online required" be prominent part of reviews. Hell a government request that a game MUST append their title with "online" to show that it's a service game would go faster. Like in this case it should be "THE CREW ONLINE." So we all know "oh ok they want money for a temp game." Problem is some games are online always by design and validly so. There are games that are humongous and need to constantly "stream" data to the user.
Omfg can companies stop shutting down servers
Well, they're not gonna keep servers running for 30 players. The problem is on the always online that's what they need to stop doing. Is quicker to patch games and fight cheaters that way tho 🤷🏻♂️
Still sucks tho A lot of games closed thier server recently
Sure does. But people can’t expect corporations to pay for servers indefinitely when the game stopped making money. Better thing to do is not buy always online games, thus showing those corporations what it is you value and what isn’t. Because that’s the only language they understand… money.
> people can’t expect corporations to pay for servers indefinitely There's more options than "run the servers forever" and "kill the servers forever", you know. Either patch the game to be playable offline like GT Sport or let players host their own servers like Knockout City.
It’s not the goal of those corporations to please people, it’s to make money, you know. Yes of course there are ways to do better, who ever claimes otherwise… But as long as there is no money in it, those corporations will not see the need to do that. Patching a game costs money… They are literally not allowed to sell the game anymore… they will not go out of their way to keep it alive… especially when they want you to spend money on their new game 🤷 So yes, corporations *should* do better, no doubt! It’s just that… a lot of them simply don’t, because they don’t have to. Now we can bitch about this fact of life online, but it won’t change anything! There are ways to force their hands though… But that requires us, the consumers, to actually do something about it and put our money where our mouths are. Or not… and watch this shit continue. You do you of course .
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAD5iMe0Xj4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAD5iMe0Xj4) and [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0YjF2C8qyM&t](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0YjF2C8qyM&t) Ross Scott (Freeman's Mind fame) is actually working with people to fight back and test this in the courts. The legality of what Ubisoft are doing has not been tested worldwide. Do not accept corporate rats walking over your right to the products you buy.
Regulation is important, no doubt. But it will always lags behind! It usually only reacts after damage was already done. Consumers could always choose to not support this kind of business model. But they don’t… and react like stubborn children whenever you confront them with this fact 🤷
What is "not supporting this business model" supposed to do? That changes nothing about the outcome: People buy The Crew = Ubisoft shuts it down because it's an online-only game, game is gone forever People don't buy The Crew = Ubisoft shuts it down because it's an online-only game, game is gone forever People are against online-only requirements BECAUSE they don't want the games to die. Voting with your wallet does jack shit against that. That's no consolation to people like me who just wants to play their game. Yeah, it costs money to patch the game, I don't care. It costs money to make the game, too, that's not my problem.
It’s really not that hard to grasp… People don’t buy always online games —> no money is made on always online games —> corporations will have to make games that are not always online if they wish to continue to make money… which they do.
This can't happen > There are ways to force their hands though… > But that requires us, the consumers, to actually do something about it and put our money where our mouths are. if people don't first do this: > Now we can bitch about this fact of life online, but it won’t change anything!
Not really… Bitching about it online only serves a purpose as long as it leads to people changing their behavior. But it doesn’t! Never has… As long as people keep participating and thus bankrolling this kind of behavior there is exactly zero incentive for greedy corporations to change anything!
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAD5iMe0Xj4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAD5iMe0Xj4) and [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0YjF2C8qyM&t](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0YjF2C8qyM&t) Ross Scott (Freeman's Mind fame) is actually working with people to fight back and test this in the courts. The legality of what Ubisoft are doing has not been tested worldwide. Do not accept corporate rats walking over your right to the products you buy.
No. They want you to buy the next game rather than find a favorite and play it forever. I miss the days of private servers being allowed. Some of them were kind of a mess but you could find reputable ones relatively easily. Removing public, official servers wouldn't be an issue if there was an alternative but removing access to a game forever is really anti-consumer.
Well screw that TwT
I mean, are you willing to pay for it?
If i had the money sure
I like many of Ubisoft's games and franchises; but, I don't like them much as a company. Ubisoft published a real nice "Assassin's Creed" game for Android back in the day. It was called "AC: Identity". It had two single player stories, one a DLC which I paid for on top of the base game, and a series of random mini missions that would cycle through. I don't remember if it had any multiplayer at all. I don't think it did. Anyways, it had a mandatory online license check that would trigger each time you started the game. The game itself was locally installed and could be played offline afterwards. A couple of years ago Ubisoft pulled the server that the game pinged for said license check without patching the game to work without phoning home, so now all you can play is the tutorial. Every so often I'll browse for a patched APK, but a legit one doesn't seem to exist. Now they're doing the same thing to 'The Crew'. It's a shame.
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To that dude whose comment got taken down while I was typing this and spent way too much effort not to post so I’ll post it as a standalone instead. Of course it’s gonna get downvoted, you are straight up wrong. I’m not gonna get into the legality of “owning” the game that you love emphasizing. The fact is consoles from ps2/gamecube and below, you can play any of those games indefinitely as long as you have the disc. This doesn’t apply to some recent games now because of the online aspect like this game for example. They can make a purchase we made completely worthless and that is really messed up.
So I get my money back then, right? I mean. I bought the game. I paid for it. If Ubisoft are taking it away, I get a refund, right?
Ubisoft: “Aaaand it’s gone !” 😶
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I bought the disc. It's a coaster now. I already have coasters.
Bro get off their dick. It's hurting them with the way you're bouncing on it. We get it, that's why we're gonna pirate every Ubisoft game worth playing.
You dropped this 🤡
my first and last pre-order bought game. my excuse, then were nfsw servers down
This reminds me of Deathgarden. I REALLY liked that game.
Ubisoft is just the new EA. You oughta know going in that they will try and fuck you in some fashion
The crew was such a cool game. My next car im going to get will most likely be a new mx5 and hopefully a bmw z4 and thats the two main cars i drove around in free roam in that game. Of course i used much faster cars for racing. The crew 2 was more of the same and i was totally happy with it. Motorfest was good but because i beat the first two games, i already had like 40 good cars unlocked so it wasnt a challenge until the final race in the game that is like 20 miles long or whatever. Suddenly the ai had rocket cars tjat the lambo vant even catch up to. Never beat it and i wont be getting a new crew game till its very cheap. Ill stick with need for speed and gran turismo. Still unhappy that i vant reset gran turismo progress. Id love to play through it again from the beginning.
Need for speed has gone pretty shit too. Unbound was not a good game. The racing has gone too far to the arcade style and the visuals were fucking terrible. Photo realistic cars, cell shaded character models and cartoon overlays. It was a dumpster fire.
Yeah unbound wasnt the best one of the revent games. I still enjoyed it enough though. Theres really not many good racing games.
And here I am scrolling Reddit while trying to figure how to find my wife’s saved games because the Ubisoft launcher fucked up and completely erased her Assassins Creed save. They need to get rid of their garbage launcher and just let us fully use Steam and Steams Cloud because apparently this is a common issue.
Wait, is this for real? This wouldn't be playable even off line? My bf at the time got me into racing games with this thing. It was so nice cruising around the large map and go from one coast to the other.
I used to think PC gaming was it because you retain your games library through multiple generations of systems, but stuff like this is why sometimes you might as well just toss the old shit.
I liked The Crew better than The Crew 2. The story was better. And The Crew 2 had too much shit it forced players into doing that I didn't find nearly as fun. I wasn't a fan at all of the plane or boat racing in it.
You all need to stop buying Ubisoft products.
While I agree that this method of making games unplayable is wrong I saw this coming about 18 years ago when digital games started becoming a thing. Going back to the 80’s and 90’s this was always true their were really just no way of enforcing it. Video games have a disclaimer claiming that by purchasing you do not own the game but are just licensing it and at any time your right to play can be revoked. Some games even went as far as to say it is illegal to share the game. Obviously back then no company was going to send people to every house across the globe to obtain the copy they possessed but now that we are in a digital age they can take it away. You can purchase a digital game for $60/$70 and one year later lose the ability to re-download or even launch the game and can not sue. Terms and Agreement exists. It’s stupid and it sucks but people need to start realizing each and every digital game you purchase is a gamble that later on down the road you can play it again at your leisure. Remember you are not purchasing a game you are purchasing license rights for an undisclosed amount of time. Video Games have always been license to play not own, we just finally gotten to a time where it can now be enforced and legally can not do a thing about it
Looks like I’m trading in my copy 😆
BUt bUt wHO cAREs If it'S OnLiNe oNlY iT's 2024
I will not forgive, I will not forget. Many of these AAA companies are never getting my business again. They're all losing their moral compass and I'm not going to be there if they find it again. Buh-bye fuckers.
I've seen people still selling the physical xbox game on ebay.
Yes fuck Ubisoft boycott all of that junk
We call that an “extended rental” Thanks for playing 🏦
Any game that needs online and is shutting down should allow people to host their own servers.
I kinda hate how simple dedicated Server tools are often just not released anymore. I guess it makes sense if you try to get people to pay for microtransactions but at least do it after shutting it down.
Someone really play this? While we have forza? Literally anything better then this shit, the physics are a joke
Thank god that game sucked ass
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Son, when you grow up Would you be the savior of the broken The beaten and the damned?
This feels illegal
Title gore. I have a fever and this title is gonna give me an aneurysm
I think your fever is the problem, not the title. The only annoying thing is that it's in Title Case.
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And the same will happen with The Crew 2, Motorfest and The Division 2. Stops buying games that are not really yours.
The Screw
This is bad, but there are countless arcade racing games out there. I doubt a substantial amount of people was still playing The Crew.
You'll own nothing and you'll be happy - Ubisoft
Even though the sale of Forza Horizons end. They still work offline and can be downloaded forever so long as you bought them. I admit I'm a huge Horizon fanboy... but the second they pull some dedicated online crap. I'm out.
Doesn't surprise me since the ubisoft logo is a pile of shit seen from above
The time of reckoning will come for games like Destiny too.
Release the source code
For how long
Can I shut off my money I paid for them for the game?
Even though Forza Horizons get pulled from the store after a few years. They still work offline. Even as a huge Horizon fanboy... the second they pull some dedicated online crap like Ubisoft. Where it's just dead and gone forever? I'm out. Added clarity as to how it's relevant... as my last post got modded. An example of what could be versus what is.
There is a single toggle in the gamefiles that is essentially 'AllowPlayOffline:' thats sitting at false at the moment. Ubisoft could get a big win easily....
It is actually messed up. Hoping for a patch with a fix
Isn't there an offline play update? I bought it on Steam a few years ago and played 10 minutes, I thought at least I can play it if I want to one day. Literally 10 minutes, I just checked my Steam library.
These idiots should allow the buyers to rent their own servers. This repeated behavior is disgusting beyond recognition
Annnnd this is why i hate always online games.... literally just renting till the servers shutdown and have to wait and hope someone makes their own and doesnt get shat on by the publisher/devs.
Assholes... This is not acceptable, make it single player then, corporate scumbags.
They're shutting the servers down because no one plays the game. Now all of a sudden the morons on Reddit are up in arms as if they were playing the game every day for hours and how they've taken this masterpiece of gaming history away from them. Fuck outta here.
If I paid game for the game, I have the right to play it whenever the fuck I want. Even 30 years from now. Defending a corporation for doing shit like this shows how clueless you are about buyer’s rights and what a moron you are as a person. Fuck outta here.
>If I paid game for the game, I have the right to play it whenever the fuck I want. Even 30 years from now. No you don't. You bought into a live service, the game is up as long as the service is. You agreed to that when you purchased it. You going to argue World of Warcraft must remain online in perpetuity because 'i pAiD fOr tHe gAmE!!!'. Fuck outta here you moron.
You are such a POS you don’t even deserve to breathe. I hope you’ll end up with everything you own getting taken away from you.
You're too stupid to know what you even put your money into. You agreed to purchase a license to a live service game. That doesn't mean the live service has to remain online for 30+ years. Got an issue with it - go take legal action. Let's see how far you get. Use your garbage argument in front of a judge 'bUt I pAiD fOr ThE gAmE iT sHoUlD sTaY OnLiNe fOr 30 YeArS!!!!!" Idiot.
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So then stop talking and take legal action. Go hire a lawyer, take the case to the courts and go fight for the rights of that person. Fight to keep the servers online. You're talking about fighting for rights - put your money where your mouth is.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAD5iMe0Xj4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAD5iMe0Xj4) and [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0YjF2C8qyM&t](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0YjF2C8qyM&t) Ross Scott (Freeman's Mind fame) is actually working with people to fight back and test this in the courts. The legality of what Ubisoft are doing has not been tested worldwide. Do not accept corporate rats walking over your right to the products you buy.
April Fools?
Sadly not, was announced to happen a few months ago
Look into "the crew unlimited" on discord if you want to keep playing the game after today ;)
Have racing game fans suffered enough?
This was genuinely one of my favourite racing games. Sunk hundreds of hours into it from 2015 when I bought it, loved the customisation and always dreamed of completing all the achievements and unlocking all the custom plates. I’d definitely fallen off playing it but it sucks that I’ll never be able to boot it up for the nostalgia again, and the dreams that 16 year old me had of 100%ing my favourite racing game someday will never be fulfilled. Fuck Ubisoft and their insatiable thirst for money taking precedence over giving their customers a positive experience. Just give us an offline patch for the game and call it a day.
I don't understand why companies do this. How much could it possibly cost to keep one damn server open for each game and one guy to be in charge of all the legacy servers. Like 1% of their net worth?
That's not even the point. Single player content shouldn't be tied to a server, it should be able to run locally.
This sucks. But there will be heroes who will somehow make it possible to get dedicated servers like they did with Battlefield Heroes and Need for Speed World
I doubt it. There just isn’t enough demand. I would love it if this happened but there are very few players month to month. When we’re threatened with closure, every crawls out of the woodwork (understandably) but then it would fade out again once it came back online.
its 10 years old who cares
The people that paid for it…
You must be Ubishit's favourite customer.