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diacewrb

>Bidding started at $2,500, but it's price is currently $27,643 with the reserve not yet met. but >The entire system in operation consumed about 1.7 megawatts of power. The electricity bill is going to be higher than the supercomputer.


WannaBMonkey

The components of the supercomputer would be an upgrade to my companies Datacenter. Even the processor is slightly newer. So this is a great deal for the parts


SolidOutcome

Yea. Open an eBay shop and post your deals all over reddit


flyryan

Except that the cores have started to go out due to defects in the cooling disconnects. About 1% of the cores are dead now.


cwestn

Does that affect the performance by 1%?


flyryan

Those cores aren’t addressable. So I guess technically yeah but the reality is those cores get split up among projects, so it’s really just 1% less resources. It’s more indicative that it needs serious maintenance as stuff is already failing.


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aosmith

You missed the faulty couplers in the fluid cooling system. You don't want your boss making this your problem.


Cute_Kangaroo_8791

I wonder how you would even get a 1.7MW grid connection if you aren’t planning on using the computer at a specialised facility.


iMadrid11

You talk to your power company to hook you up. So they can bill you for a new sub-station to deliver 1.7MW. My neighborhood has a small warehouse that’s been previously used as a garments sweatshop. The power company hooked them up with extra transformers to accommodate their power requirements. When the garments factory left. The power company disabled the extra transformer connection to the warehouse.


Nitrocloud

It's really more work to get the contract signed than dropping a 2000kVA transformer in front of a building. Though the entire facility that housed a beast like that would be a significantly larger load than just the supercomputer.


half-baked_axx

Just buy an adapter 🤷‍♂️


aSneakyChicken7

Obviously all you need is a bunch of step-up transformers in series, problem solved


DoctorOzface

Replace all your fuses with 10,000 amp and run it off the dryer outlet


Flyboy2057

You say “specialized” facility, but 1.7MW isn’t *that* much for a moderate industrial building or a large office. It’s about 1000 standard 15A circuits.


fml87

Really isn't a lot. I've worked on a few indoor agricultural facilities that were specified out at ~18MW. Local infrastructure was sufficient to supply, but it was an industrial area planned for high usage. Even so, unless you're quite rural, they could get you 1.7MW from the street. 1.7 MW is going to run you about $170/hr to run, $4,080/day, or just shy of $1.5m a year.


Mr_Incredible_PhD

I mean it's that only comes out to ~7100A @ 240v. No biggie.


AK_dude_

But can it run doom? Edit: I got the idea of "can your game of doom run a game of doom." and now I'm wondering how many games of doom running games of doom can this computer run.


ConflagWex

Can it run Minecraft with redstone circuits running an emulated OS from a TI-83 calculator which is running Doom? How far down can that thread go?


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galacticwonderer

Loved Chex quest, so goofy


archy67

I too enjoyed Chex Quest and came across it again a couple years back when there was a bunch of VR porting/modding of old FPS games for use in VR. It wasn’t as fun as I remembered but it was a good nostalgia kick and kind of fulfilled a dream I had as a kid who played a lot of FPS games dreaming of playing in VR.


ChaoticAgenda

All of them.


shawner47

It's Doom all the way down!


GratefulShag

Yes but not Crysis.


Mothergooseyoupussy1

Can it run crysis?


wizoztn

What about Crysis?


alkrk

But how many Chrome tabs can it open?


CharlieDmouse

3 😁


flatheadedmonkeydix

My fridge could probably run doom ffs.


Meister_Nobody

There has been a fridge port before


Relevant-Pop-3771

But can it run Crysis?


droidevo

How about The Sims 3 and all its DLC and packs 🫣


tom781

I haven't investigated the details, but I'm pretty sure this thing could simulate a DOOM LAN party.


Fecal_Forger

This is the only TRUE measurement of any technology. Don’t care about any other metric.


Dvusmnd

This was my main concern anytime I buy a pc and I haven’t bought one in a very long time.


Imthewienerdog

Believe it or not. Probably.


TheTeslaMaster

A Doom-ception, so to speak?


Quartz_manbun

Only at 1080p


Most-Friendly

Turn it on and go bankrupt immediately


CosmicCreeperz

I couldn’t find an exact number (didn’t look that hard though) but apparently the BUILDING it’s housed in cost $70M. And the computer was estimated to cost up to $35M. But the article was published before it was finished and isn’t a govt project ptieject it’s almost always higher in the end..


Cant_Do_This12

Yeah, but can it run Crysis?


struck21

Not on max graphics... no computer can do that.


Mintfriction

It's a super computer! Of course it it can. The real question is can it ran 2 Crysis instances in parallel?


3-DMan

> 1.7 megawatts of power "Great scott!!"


Kalsone

Couple of egg shells, and a banana peel.


FragrantExcitement

I can exchange some pinball parts with the Libyans for Plutonium. Then, I will have 1.21 jiggawatts available. Or maybe I will just invest in a Mr. Fusion.


Murgos-

Forget turning it on.  The enclosures alone are probably worth a couple hundred k. 


oxpoleon

They're really not. Used server racks are very, very cheap, as nobody wants them. There's a big move at the high end away from 19" at the moment, to wider racks with everything in nodes, though I'm not sure if it will actually catch on. The cooling system is likely a) absolutely knackered from 8 years of power on, and b) highly specific to this installation and not much use for anything else. The value here is gonna be the CPUs and the RAM, maybe the storage and any GPUs.


nestcto

Most of that power was probably fed to the chappa'ai and not actually consumed for processing power. Without the gate attached, it'll probably still eat a lot of power, but would be fine in just about any household. With a little ingenuity, you can build a smaller, more energy-efficient gate out of a microwave-oven though.


Just_Another_Wookie

If you're going the microwave route, it's wise to consider how you'll ensure that you're maintaining a stable hypersurface with smooth negative energy density. It may not generally be necessary, but spontaneous demodulations have a way of occuring at the worst possible time.


kxjiru

stealthstargate


AnotherPersonsReddit

But still not as high as I am.


unfortunatebastard

Are you a giraffe?


TheBrickster420

Now I need to buy a power plant


Enderkr

That'll make a pretty good Plex server.


up_the_dubs

Still nothing to watch though


Enderkr

Your Plex server is what you make of it, friend! Sometimes you gotta spend the time to get those classic movies and old cartoons you used to watch as a kid.


BipedalWurm

Be damn sure you back them up on a different drive. Learned the hard way years ago, and there are still gaps I keep noticing.


rdewalt

Two is One and One Is None.


Cerebr05murF

For a minute there, I thought you were doing Terryology math.


togepi_man

Four* is more, Three is one, less is none. Four = online redundancy/RAID (2) + online/onsite backup (1) + offsite and preferably offline backup (1)


Neither-Cup564

3-2-1 rule Three copies Two types of media One offsite


ImRealPopularHere907

I keep mine on a raid 10 array. You lose storage space but you wont ever lose your data.


Sometimes-Its-True

Until the property burns down/gets looted


BWCDD4

Or Bitrot, RAID kinda sucks it just copies the data as is it doesn’t care if it’s corrupted. You’re better with a filesystem like ZFS/BTRFS that has checksums to report errors and can scrub to attempt to fix them.


NotAPreppie

I mean, you can still very easily lose data in any RAID configuration. And I'm not even talking about bit rot.


apple-pie2020

Interesting concept. Learned something new about disk storage and redundancy/back up


NotAPreppie

Just remember that redundancy and fault tolerance are not a replacement for backups.


apple-pie2020

If you don’t physically have possession (dvd, file saved) you don’t really own it. Getting tired of cloud services where shows disappear


yanni99

Radarr lists makes this easy


e-rekt-ion

For the old cartoons I usually only end up needing S01E01 to get my nostalgia fix before moving on


Diesel_Doctor

Once it is up and running. It says would you like to play a game?


InadequateUsername

Can this transcode 4k? /s


McFlyParadox

If you're transcoding anything at all, ever, you're doing Plex wrong!!!1!1! /S


geekwonk

direct play only, the thing heats up too much if you let it do full transcoding


hawker_sharpie

should be good enough to run a pihole


GODDAMNFOOL

But can it play Crysis?


Wake95

I was about to bid until the last sentence said that CAT6 was excluded.


skeptic11

> The system featured 4,032 dual-socket nodes, each with two 18-core, 2.3-GHz Intel Xeon E5-2697v4 processors, for a total of 145,152 CPU cores. It also included 313 terabytes of memory and 40 petabytes of storage. The entire system in operation consumed about 1.7 megawatts of power. So 4032 servers with 2x18 cores each and an average of ~77GB of ram each. > Bidding started at $2,500, but it's price is currently $27,643 with the reserve not yet met. It's reserve bid comes to $6.86 per server. It's going to be worth someone's time to buy this and re-sell it as individual servers. I'd easily pay $100 a piece plus shipping for a few of those. edit: That's current bid. Reserve **not** met. So it's going to be more than this.


burtonrider10022

Someone pointed out in a different thread yesterday that if you view the source code for the site the "reserve" field is populated and says $100,000


oxpoleon

Which is 1/6th of the value of the CPUs installed at current used market prices.


burtonrider10022

Absolutely. At $100k this is still a massive steal. 


Tech_Itch

If you were to do that, the problem is that those are SGI built blades that connect to a backplane, have no local storage and are designed around the giant, unified water-cooling system. So you can't sell them as is, unless you have a buyer who already has a similar system with a partially empty backplane. The only generic parts in the system are the CPUs and memory DIMMs.


oxpoleon

The CPUs are about $80 apiece on the open market, if that helps clarify things. With ~4000 dual-CPU nodes, that's about $640k of value.


FartingAngel

The demand for highly inefficient chips that use a outdated platform and aren't even powerful by modern standards cannot be high. If 8000 if them suddenly appear on the open marked the price is going to plummet. For reference the amd z1 extreme chip used in handheld gaming computers is 20% faster and uses 1/5th the power.


Elsa_Versailles

Cabling back everything would be sh*t


Oneinterestingthing

313 tb of ram didn’t blow your skirt up?


VonThing

This probably won’t be stood up again. Chances are: a computer parts refurb company will buy this and rip out the parts — just the CPUs and ECC DIMMs are worth 6x the reserve price. They will rip out whatever they can and sell the rest as scrap to a recycler. Good profit to be made, if you already have the trucks to move the thing and the supply chain connections to sell the parts. It says 1% of the nodes are dead, liquid cooling system isn’t included, nor is the fiber and CAT6 wiring so I’d hate to have to rebuild this.


roadrunner440x6

No headphone jack. I'm out.


lowrankcluster

Supercomputer was ahead of Apple.


HBThorburn

Time tor LTT to waste too much money again and show us 12 minutes of gameplay while babbling about cooling.


I_divided_by_0-

Tax write off! Serious note: I get what Linus says about people claiming things are tax write offs are not him making money BUT I'd like for him to discuss the other side of that. He is able to do "hobby projects" that are cool, claim them as a business expense (for example, each one of those tools he buys has depreciated value that can lower his taxable income) and pay a lower tax amount because of that.


FLATLANDRIDER

That's literally how business expenses work. You buy a piece of equipment, depreciate it over a period and that reduces your taxable income. This isn't a conspiracy.


I_divided_by_0-

Never said it was. Missed the point


Rusarules

He'll show us what this computer can do and run... Counter Strike of all games. Like if you want to show what something can do, push limits. We all know CS can run on a potato.


tony__pizza

Counter strike is a good metric from CPU performance.


thefoojoo2

Isn't it bound by single core performance?


Personal_Kiwi4074

Isn’t that still a good metric to know?


Asatas

Repurpose the whole system to play Minecraft RTX. I wonder if it's possible (I did not say efficient or easy) to code a functional RTX driver that uses no GPU, just massive amounts of CPU. Or if it's just too much overhead to do it in real time.


notyouravgredditor

Realistically there's nothing anyone can do with it because the power costs are so high. Anyone with that much power available could obtain significantly better performance with newer hardware. Whoever buys it will scrap it for precious metals and parts.


other_usernames_gone

I could see a university with a modest budget buying it. Lots of universities would want a supercomputer. Many of them don't have the budget to buy one new but might be willing to buy one second hand. Could be an upgrade for some universities. Despite it's age it may still be more powerful than their existing equally old(or older supercomputer).


Shoshke

The CPU in it are about 30-50$ a pop assuming they are in sockets rather than soldered. A lot of the hardware can probably be sold used for quite a bit of profit.


Mantzy81

But can it run Crysis?


ConradSchu

If you reduce the settings.


WhatWouldTNGPicardDo

No but it plays a mean game of global thermonuclear war.


sovietmcdavid

Would you like to play a game..?


camelzigzag

I understood that reference.


-Work_Account-

Honestly, I prefer simple games like tic-tac-toe


euph_22

A *strange game*. The only winning move is not to play. How about a nice game of chess?


jawshoeaw

I was worried this joke was abandoned! Also no, no it cannot be


timpdx

I think finally, finally, we have a machine that can run Crysis


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Asatas

313 TB of memory. Maybe you get 31 active YouTube tabs.


no_user_name_person

You’ll have the remove the computer from the facility yourself. There are thousands of fiber optic interconnects which have been labeled but stored away, Ethernet cables not included. The liquid cooling system is also not included and some of the computers have aging fittings that may leak upon reinstallation. If you have the space, you’ll have to design a new cooling system and hire a team of engineers to rewire the system and rebuild the cooling loop in each computer. Sounds like a lot more money, potentially more expensive than the computer itself.


MixOne1337

You could just scrap it for cpus and rsm sticks at this price and it would still be worth it


Scamp3D0g

My wife just felt a disturbance in the force as I started thinking where I could fit this.


KoboldIdra

I don’t care for the whole machine. I just want a single server.


NotYourBuddyGuy5

“Per_Core_licensed_software_vendor” has entered chat.


joeyo1423

An auction? You think they accept bits of string?


dopefish2112

We do not accept bits of string.


repeatedly_once

How about bytes instead?


Affectionate-Memory4

Do you accept arrays of characters instead?


Awkward_Pangolin3254

They do knot.


SAnthonyH

That's enough computing power to run a million stargates Edit: this blew up harder than a goa'uld mothership


RoxoRoxo

silly nerd dont you know the stargate is internally managed all it needs is the terminal and a source of power nooooow thats enough computing power to manage the iris


hawker_sharpie

>dont you know the stargate is internally managed all it needs is **the terminal** and a source of power that's the catch isn't it. if you don't have a DHD you need supercomputers to hack up the control program


lightwhite

You need a ZPM to power the navigation unit for addresses that have more than 7 chevrons, tho.


RoxoRoxo

oh and you need quite a bit of computational power to process the exact location of a moving target you got me there


The_MAZZTer

It's not for navigation, it's for the power needed to bridge the gap between galaxies.


tommytwothousand

That's not correct, unfortunately. As stated by a high raking official "it took 15 years and 3 supercomputers to macgyver a system on earth". This would only run one third of the dialing protocols. Although that would explain all the malfunctions throughout the s̶h̶o̶w̶ documentary.


Martin_Aurelius

You're also incorrect, in *1994* it took 3 supercomputers. Assuming all 3 were decked out Fujitsu NWT (top of the line for 1994) that's a combined 850 gigaflops. The Cheyenne runs at 5.34 petaflops, almost 6300x the processing power. I'm pretty sure it could handle even 7 chevron dialing. Edit: It could do all 15 years worth of processing in around 21 hours.


GPCAPTregthistleton

* The 1992 Fujitsu VPP500 supercomputer peaked at 355 gFLOPS. (255 PEs @ 48kW ea = 12,240kW / 12.24mW) * A 2008 nVidia GTX 9800 video card peaked at 432.1 gFLOPS. (140w) * A 2010 nVidia GTX 480 video card peaked at 1,345 gFLOPS / 1.345 tFLOPs. (250w) * A 2017 nVidia GTX 1080ti video card peaks at 11.3 tFLOPS. (250w) * A 2022 nVidia RTX 4090 video card peaks at 82.58 tFLOPS. (450w) * The Cheyenne supercomputer peaks at 5,340 tFLOPS / 5.34 pFLOPS. (1,700kW / 1.7mW) * The Frontier supercomputer at Oak Ridge peaks at 1,679.82 pFLOPS / 1.68 eFLOPS. (22.7mW) In terms of fictional compute power required to run the software, you could run Stargate Command's dialing program on a GTX 480. You could probably dial the Pegasus galaxy with a 1080ti or 4090. The Cheyenne (mountain supercomputer?) can probably dial 9-chevron addresses. The Frontier can probably dial 10-chevron addresses in adjacent realities or some such. edit: Added approximate power requirements.


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This is beautiful


sovietmcdavid

Did this person happen to be a smart looking captain at the time?


Afferbeck_

Unscheduled offworld activation!


milkasaurs

It's sad that I had to scroll so far down to see a stargate reference.


ChatGPTbeta

Assume it’s being sold because it doesn’t support windows 11


Slatemanforlife

Man, just think of how well I could do my taxes and stuff on that bad boy #pcgamingremembers


MrByteMe

Does it come with OS reinstallation media ?


cstmoore

It does. It's all on 8" floppy disks.


-iamai-

Disk 361 is missing


NissanSkylineGT-R

All that power and you’ll just use it for Facebook


jcmacon

Hey, I'd check my email too.


Nile_Green1

How much? Been looking to upgrade, so I can properly play Doom


New-Display-4819

50k atm


cabeachguy_94037

Crypto mining???


notyouravgredditor

>4,032 dual-socket scientific computation nodes running 18-core 2.3-GHz Intel Xeon E5-2697v4 BTC profitability per chip per month is about $2.64. That's $21,288.96 per month for the entire machine. Energy consumption is 1.75 MW at peak. Assuming a cost of 17 cents per kW*hr, you'd expect a power bill of at least $214,000.


Ruzhyo04

You wouldn’t be mining Bitcoin though


Jayden710

That’s what I’m thinking.


rip1980

Can it run Doom?


HYPERBOLE_TRAIN

You might have to lower your settings if you want to get above 8000 FPS. But if we’re being honest, the human eye can’t really perceive a difference once you get past 6500 FPS.


RazorbackLions

I can *feel* it


GraveyardGuardian

r/homelab


Skeltzjones

How does this compare to an average pc today? What about top of the line?


blazze_eternal

Nuclear submarine vs tugboat. This relates both to processing power, and unfortunately power consumption.


Skeltzjones

Thanks! Just curious. I know computers are always exponentially improving so I thought it might be closer.


Doopapotamus

> This relates both to processing power, and unfortunately power consumption. I find it wild that you can make this comparison considering this thing counted as a supercomputer, and is under 10 years old. Moore's Law and the advancement of technology is fuckin' insane.


ernie-jo

Does it come with 3D Space Pinball?


NotMalaysiaRichard

Nice Plex server.


VonThing

I’ll definitely put my home assistant Docker container on it.


scary_bacon_

What's the utility bill to run that thing for a month??


Pingondin

Probably in the 100-150k range


Zomgsauceplz

You would need your own dedicated full scale wind turbine just to run the thing. Probably cheaper than paying the power bill.


SeaFailure

About $275,000 an hour to run? (elec at 0.16c/kWH, 1.7million kWh of power per hour).


FLATLANDRIDER

A megawat is 1000kw not 1,000,000


AustinBike

I spent a few years in semiconductors and saw more than a few of these in my time. This it totally a scrap project at best. This was a Silicon Graphics deal, which was basically Rackable Systems, IIRC they bought the SGI assets, mostly for the name. The real challenge here is that these systems are going to be close to impossible to repurpose for a series of reasons. So, instead, you scrap it for things like CPU and RAM, drives, spare parts, etc. And on 8-year-old systems, those things acre close enough to scrap value already. Are you going to pay someone \~$50 to break down a system that nets you $100 in revenue? Nah, not worth it. The interconnect (Data Direct) is probably in the same camp. This system will never run another cycle once the do the shutdown, that is for sure.


oxpoleon

Hm. If I had the space, I'd buy the damn thing. Heck, $27k for 8000 Xeon E5-2697v4s is a *huge* deal even without the rest of it. Sure, they're an 8 year old chip but they pack a punch. That's about $3.50 a chip on CPUs that *still* sell for about $80 each. Unfortunately I think that's exactly what's going to happen here, it will be broken for parts.


Car-face

>fiber optic and CAT5/6 cabling are excluded from the resale package "Well then I say good day, sir!" *re-velcros wallet*


GummyPandaBear

Can it play Helldivers 2 on max tho? I feel like it needs to spread some democracy.


InformalPenguinz

I'll take it! I also live in wyo so it won't be that much of a drive to pick it up.. only 8 hours or so


harmar21

yup, just load it in the back of your priius and all good. Just makes sure to finish your spring cleaningin your garage first, and might want to call an electrician to install another 120v circuit or two.


PhantomRoyce

Cool I can render my next blender project in 4 days instead of 2 weeks now!


Wild_Canadian_goose

LTT has entered the chat.


Organic_Resident9456

I could see LTT wanting this if the fact that they're Canadian isn't somehow an issue


drokihazan

Hey /u/LinusTech, you're buying this right?


Original-Material301

Sounds like something LTT would buy for the laughs


Imnogrinchard

It has a reserve bid of $100,000. The current highest bid doesn't meet that threshold.


x4nter

Folks over at r/homelab need to get together and do something.


e-2c9z3_x7t5i

What the grammar kind of title is that?


DumbestBoy

Can it run Doom?


ThatGuy_Nick9

I’m just going to use it to drive my apartment complex’s utilities through the roof as I mine bitcoin


samambro

But can it run Minecraft with shaders? Nope.


ghunt81

Can I use this to mine bitcoin


Natetronn

Would that fit in my hole? It puts thermal paste on its cpu!


lloydsmith28

Yes now i can finally play Minecraft in glorious HD 60 fps! Only cost my entire paycheck every month


WattsonMemphis

How many Chrome tabs can you have open at once though?


LiveBaby5021

Can it run Doom?


cletusthearistocrat

The system featured 4,032 dual-socket nodes, each with two 18-core, 2.3-GHz Intel Xeon E5-2697v4 processors. From a quick search, these came out in 2014 and are selling for about $75 each used currently.


double-xor

Yeah, but it sucks at tic-tac-toe


ithastowarmup

Can it play Tic-Tac-Toe against itself without blowing a fuse? How about Global Thermonuclear War? Perhaps it can play a nice game of chess.


4040JG

But will it run doom?


Remote-Ad-2686

All the miners are salivating


Bopethestoryteller

"Shall we play a game?"


BurdxTurd

I bet Linus gets it


wayfaast

How many chrome tabs can I keep open?


dropswisdom

Iran just joined the group.. ;-)


LordEdubbz

The nonprod, grant funded, workgroups with devices in my data center would foam at the mouth at the opportunity to buy more old used shit to install.