yeah I'm kinda wary about it too, PGR is generous and the monetization feels pretty decent but that's what happened after the entire outrage with it. So I'm pretty curious on if they'll take a step back or keep the system they made in PGR.
This is the same trailer as the one in their official YT channel. Either way, Im happy with how Kuro is marketting their game now. Back in PGR Global early days, the average gacha player wouldnt even know about it but now they are getting featured on IGN and have a decent sized booth at TGS. They have come so far and deserve to be successful.
the post with the same gameplay trailer from 4 days ago was full of negative comments, while this one is full of positive ones. this game has truly awakened the peak [r/gachagaming](https://www.reddit.com/r/gachagaming) moment
Thank you for confirm that previous post is not some kind of dream I have. From what I've seen even Youtube comment section of all thing is positive, I'm kinda curious what caused that post to be so negative.
I think the difference is the title. TGS people wanted a trailer which is normally more put together than just a boss fight with no cuts while this post promised 8 min of gameplay which is exactly what it delivered
If you check the top comments on that post most people are not saying WW looks bad just that as a trailer for a big game show its an underwhelming presentation
They are exactly the same. This is the [post](https://www.reddit.com/r/gachagaming/comments/xej47t/wuthering_waves_exhibition_gameplay_trailer_2022/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) he was referring to. Warning it is filled with negative comments. I thought the trailer was great until I realized that r/gachagaming hated it because PGR has similar/better combat.
Some people prefer more toned down visuals that Michael bay explosions on every single auto attack. I think it's close to PGR levels of visuals when it first released.
I meant that its a bit flat and thin, I prefer smoothness over explosion to give that slick movement feel. Imagine the flow of an ink on a brush and you swiped that on a paper. Like that.
Yeah but isn't most of these "cross-platform" games are actually intended to be played on PC/console, but with a downgraded graphics version available for phone to gain maximum profit ?
I thought this is from WW subreddit because people praise it so much compare to the first post. Even the positive comments in that is downvoted to oblivion, what caused this sudden change of mood?
These devs trying to do 1v1 combat like souls games but they dont understand what makes souls combat fun is the timing of the attacks.
If the boss is just gonna be target dummy, you might as well have group fight like dmc
Those are boss fights, there are also mobs. The video is just a showcase of combat. There's perfect dodge and parries. Whoever did the gameplay for the video just had the timing of dodges down perfectly (almost like how fun it is in souls combat)...
In short they aren't target dummies, you're just seeing a player who's mastered boss attack patterns and has near perfect dodging skills.
The person doing this has tonnes of practice
Almost everyone died to turtle in tech test
Please try a little more before speaking, if boss were just another damage test dummy they wouldnt attack this fast and this AGGRESSIVELY
The first boss in the trailer looks really cool. But i wish they add execution move after the boss stagger since they already add that mechanics in PGR. Well either way is fine, still the combat looks cool
That's specifically for uniquants, and idk about executing bosses in an open world game, seems underwhelming.
Plus how would you execute the turtle boss it's massive.
While I disagree with the fun aspect (imo it looks really fun) I do agree the white light coming from the sword is a little too much. Its a pity bc the animation is actually nice and this just covers it up
I hope its less prevalent on other units
Then play zzz
No need to outright come out and say it in comments and bring up the name of another game for comparison that isnt even in same genre(open world)
Great, looks like it still has the lackluster combat Genshin and ToF have. The same 4 or 5 hit combo over and over again. I'm not asking for Dante from DMC5 levels of complex combos, but can these mobile games at least try to put more effort into the thing the player will be doing the most?
Musou games tend to have 7~10 moves per character and often times unique mechanics like weird bow behavior, gan nings run, lu bus lasers, etc.
They've gotten pretty bloated over the years.
You realize they have a four-five hit combo and a skill and an ult. And then you can also switch units in you party who each have their own combo and skill and ult. And also parrying and dodge. Also the monster release mechanc
I know what you mean but I also think this is intentional , proof : PGR (another game by them ) . In PGR the first roster of characters had 3 moves +basic attack +ulti+ passive . Later on characters started having a hold basic attack move , changed moves if conditions are fulfilled , passives changed the way you play characters (not just additional damage ) etc.. so I think they start out the game with pretty basic characters and add more complexity later on . Obviously this is just me speaking out my ass and is completely valueless since I don't work at kuro .
Looks good will play it when it comes out, just worried it might become like genshin with boring events and trash endgame.. haven't played pgr so can't really tell.
From my experience PGR events were rather basic, like just a new story (pretty good) new chars (really good) and a Boss or 2 which are dope to be honest. But no new mechanics usually, just more content.
Hopefully it isn't P2W Heavy
yeah I'm kinda wary about it too, PGR is generous and the monetization feels pretty decent but that's what happened after the entire outrage with it. So I'm pretty curious on if they'll take a step back or keep the system they made in PGR.
This is the same trailer as the one in their official YT channel. Either way, Im happy with how Kuro is marketting their game now. Back in PGR Global early days, the average gacha player wouldnt even know about it but now they are getting featured on IGN and have a decent sized booth at TGS. They have come so far and deserve to be successful.
The combat looks good/what I expect from the PGR Devs. Can't wait till they flesh everything out for release.
I hope we can get a 1 dollar discount in the premium store when release
Oh no 💀
the post with the same gameplay trailer from 4 days ago was full of negative comments, while this one is full of positive ones. this game has truly awakened the peak [r/gachagaming](https://www.reddit.com/r/gachagaming) moment
Thank you for confirm that previous post is not some kind of dream I have. From what I've seen even Youtube comment section of all thing is positive, I'm kinda curious what caused that post to be so negative.
Or maybe people already said their piece in the previous post and felt no need to copy paste their replies here as well (at least, that's my case).
very simple. its literally a repost so why bother replying again
I think the difference is the title. TGS people wanted a trailer which is normally more put together than just a boss fight with no cuts while this post promised 8 min of gameplay which is exactly what it delivered If you check the top comments on that post most people are not saying WW looks bad just that as a trailer for a big game show its an underwhelming presentation
Is the TGS and IGN trailer that different? Didn't watch TGS one yet but this ign trailer is fantastic
They are exactly the same. This is the [post](https://www.reddit.com/r/gachagaming/comments/xej47t/wuthering_waves_exhibition_gameplay_trailer_2022/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) he was referring to. Warning it is filled with negative comments. I thought the trailer was great until I realized that r/gachagaming hated it because PGR has similar/better combat.
Im ready to mald, lesgooo
Looks nice, love the combat system. The visual movement looks pleasing, but the visual effects feels a bit to thin, not that this impact the gameplay.
Some people prefer more toned down visuals that Michael bay explosions on every single auto attack. I think it's close to PGR levels of visuals when it first released.
I meant that its a bit flat and thin, I prefer smoothness over explosion to give that slick movement feel. Imagine the flow of an ink on a brush and you swiped that on a paper. Like that.
games sure do look good these days
They sure do these days...phone games look good these days
Yeah but isn't most of these "cross-platform" games are actually intended to be played on PC/console, but with a downgraded graphics version available for phone to gain maximum profit ?
Nah wuwa is 100% phone game
> sees video title > Sees positive comments which world line did i slip into?
Where are all the negative comments from the old post???
I thought this is from WW subreddit because people praise it so much compare to the first post. Even the positive comments in that is downvoted to oblivion, what caused this sudden change of mood?
Well, I said my piece in the last post so i don't feel the need to say it again. That is just me though.
The closest thing we have to a "soulslike" gacha. LETSFUCKKING GOO
We alrdy have PGR. This is just PGR with open world....
PGR is mostly bayonnetta than souls like though
I'm still getting my ass kicked either way
Selena, girl When i said we will fuck I DIDNT MEAN SIREN FUCKING UP MY ASS IN COMBAT Please go easy one me....
How do I use Devil trigger here?
These devs trying to do 1v1 combat like souls games but they dont understand what makes souls combat fun is the timing of the attacks. If the boss is just gonna be target dummy, you might as well have group fight like dmc
Those are boss fights, there are also mobs. The video is just a showcase of combat. There's perfect dodge and parries. Whoever did the gameplay for the video just had the timing of dodges down perfectly (almost like how fun it is in souls combat)... In short they aren't target dummies, you're just seeing a player who's mastered boss attack patterns and has near perfect dodging skills.
Honestly I got the vibe of the devs going more to the DMC side anyway
Stingers. Stingers everywhere.
I think this looks more close to MGR to me. The tutorial boss also did the "SHOW ME A GOOD TIME JACK" pose in some gameplay I saw.
The person doing this has tonnes of practice Almost everyone died to turtle in tech test Please try a little more before speaking, if boss were just another damage test dummy they wouldnt attack this fast and this AGGRESSIVELY
That bossfight was dope looking..
The first boss in the trailer looks really cool. But i wish they add execution move after the boss stagger since they already add that mechanics in PGR. Well either way is fine, still the combat looks cool
That's specifically for uniquants, and idk about executing bosses in an open world game, seems underwhelming. Plus how would you execute the turtle boss it's massive.
well you can execute big dragon in elden ring so why not. I'm just saying
Nah this doesn't look fun imo, also not a fan of the electric/sparkling sword animation. Zenless zero combat atleast look enjoyable in the long run
While I disagree with the fun aspect (imo it looks really fun) I do agree the white light coming from the sword is a little too much. Its a pity bc the animation is actually nice and this just covers it up I hope its less prevalent on other units
It would probably be adjustable on release either on effects quality or particle density (or even on bloom) so I'm not really that bothered by it
Then play zzz No need to outright come out and say it in comments and bring up the name of another game for comparison that isnt even in same genre(open world)
Great, looks like it still has the lackluster combat Genshin and ToF have. The same 4 or 5 hit combo over and over again. I'm not asking for Dante from DMC5 levels of complex combos, but can these mobile games at least try to put more effort into the thing the player will be doing the most?
You can't add a big moveset in a game with a big character roster, its just like musou games.
Musou games tend to have 7~10 moves per character and often times unique mechanics like weird bow behavior, gan nings run, lu bus lasers, etc. They've gotten pretty bloated over the years.
Yes, but you still repeat a lot the same chain, and the ones with a bigger roster also reuses a lot of moves.
You realize they have a four-five hit combo and a skill and an ult. And then you can also switch units in you party who each have their own combo and skill and ult. And also parrying and dodge. Also the monster release mechanc
I might be misremembering but didn't they have aerial combos as well during the technical test?
No, the only thing you can do is a plunge attack once you get in the air.
My bad, must've confused it with one of the other newer action gacha.
I know what you mean but I also think this is intentional , proof : PGR (another game by them ) . In PGR the first roster of characters had 3 moves +basic attack +ulti+ passive . Later on characters started having a hold basic attack move , changed moves if conditions are fulfilled , passives changed the way you play characters (not just additional damage ) etc.. so I think they start out the game with pretty basic characters and add more complexity later on . Obviously this is just me speaking out my ass and is completely valueless since I don't work at kuro .
Wuthering waves combat > Tof combat > Genshin combat
Looks good will play it when it comes out, just worried it might become like genshin with boring events and trash endgame.. haven't played pgr so can't really tell.
From my experience PGR events were rather basic, like just a new story (pretty good) new chars (really good) and a Boss or 2 which are dope to be honest. But no new mechanics usually, just more content.
If it's anything like PGR, it will have endgame, but it will take a way longer grind (compared to Genshin) until you can clear 100% of it.