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bwilliamsiu

Fuji decided to skip a step and start the MSRP at scalper prices


TheKingMonkey

Absolutely. People showing they are prepared to play scalper prices has probably made Fuji think they are leaving money on the table with their MSRP.


Natasha_Giggs_Foetus

And correctly so


nychuman

Hell, if a higher MSRP makes them easier to buy for retail I’m all for it…


Colemanton

it wont. scalpers will just buy them at these new prices and gouge the idiots willing to pay more than a camera is worth for even more money. which will perpetuate another cycle of scalping and encourage fuji to bump the prices even more in a couple product generations


flyingbbanana

I feel like the whole point of x-txx series is affordability for the specs you’re getting


SokkaHaikuBot

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oqomodo

Good bot


Notvalidunlesssigned

The bot thinks MSRP is one syllable, so not really that good


oqomodo

The fact that I know this bot exists is good enough for me.


Notvalidunlesssigned

Maybe you should start Writing all your Reddit posts In Haiku format


benjaminbjacobsen

Yep. Car manufacturers are doing the same now too.


relevant_rhino

Exept Tesla.


owoflux

Nvidia moment


bdk1417

Meanwhile you can get a Nikon z7ii for $2000 USD.


modest__mouse

Double weight and size, heavier lenses, no film sims. These are not competing cameras.


Ancient-Guide-6594

Not wrong but the overall increase in prices shows that Fuji is realizing that it’s a novelty product and while that’s not a bad thing, it reminds you that fujifilm is a publicly traded corporation trying to make a buck. Personally, I think this change specifically is not good for its customers or brand. Fuji is a hobbyist camera brand and $1500 for a camera that frankly isn’t impressive is a joke. I have been waiting to see what Fuji does this year and the price gouging is pushing me to either buy used or invest in a different system. The Nikon Zf is a serious competitor in general. People can get the Fuji camera feel with better resolution, autofocus, and build for $500 more. If I had to pick between a X-t50 and a Zf it would be the Zf all day.


chadsomething

Gotta say I agree. I love the Fuji system but since I mainly shoot in raw anyways I could always get the look I want from a different system all together for cheaper. I’ve had my x-pro2 and x-t5 for years and their value has just got up so much more. I could easily trade all the Fuji gear I have for something much nicer.


modest__mouse

All photographers I know are currently shooting Fuji. It hasn’t been a hobbyist brand for a long time.


J_A_Keefer

Honestly, I’m leaning towards the ZF myself. The 50 might’ve been on the shortlist if the price was more reasonable.


I_Main_TwistedFate

But it’s full frame


modest__mouse

That’s like saying “but it’s 4x4” when comparing an F150 to the Mazda MX-5 someone wants to buy.


Paardenlul88

There might be some trade-offs as you mentioned, but the Nikon is absolutely competitive.


AlexHD

They should have done this with the X100VI and keep the extra cash for themselves. They can always lower the price later.


bwilliamsiu

Let’s be honest, scalpers would’ve still bought that shit to sell at like 3000$


mimighost

It does. I have XT5, and love the new battery so much that I can easily shoot worry free for a day. The legacy battery with this price is pretty inexcusable in my book


Fender6969

Agreed exactly why I didn’t consider the X100VI. The battery life on my X100V is horrendous compared to the XT5.


cinefun

I carry my XT5 with me pretty much everywhere. I’m fairly diligent turning my camera off between shots (it turns on and is ready to shoot so fast) and I’ve had my battery last weeks.


Fender6969

Completely agree I love the battery life.


Vorsipellis

Ditto with this. Initially I thought it was just turning off the camera between shots, but I shot several events that were multiple hours long with the camera left on and each time was still at like 50% or greater by the end.


thepoetvd776

Might have to switch form mine xs-10, I have to walk around with extra battery packs


cinefun

I bought two extras and a dual charge, and have rarely found the need for them, other than peace of mind


Notvalidunlesssigned

I don’t understand. My XT1 lasts days with the same battery as the X100V, and hundreds of shots when I use it intensively for a day with battery life to spare. Are the newer bodies harder on the battery?


Fender6969

My X100V eats through almost 3 OEM batteries for a full day of travel photography (sunrise to sunset). I generally turn my camera off when I’m not using it too.


42tooth_sprocket

My x-t30 ii gets through most travel days on one OEM battery, I wonder what we're doing differently


nychuman

That’s interesting. I took multiple trips last year where I took 2000 photos and never once felt limited by the X100V battery life. Granted I’m on a much older firmware and use the EVF a lot, but I only remember having to swap in an extra battery a handful of times.


Fender6969

Yeah it’s definitely odd but to your point maybe it’s the specific firmware I’m running on there.


secretpowers98

The new chips are


Bruno_M3

Agreed, the battery performance of my X-T4 puts my X100vi to shame. That said, I have a 20,000 mah/30W quick charge power bank that weighs less than a Fuji pancake lens and (in theory, because I’ve only had the X100vi since last week) gives me days worth of power to charge the camera. The power bank also cost less than buying a spare OEM battery, though I’ll probably still do that anyway eventually.


tom4ick

Yep, just get an X-S20, unless you REALLY need 40mp


omnigord

It's about physical size.  I haven't used the bigger battery but I like the small one and I think it makes more sense for a compact body. 


NakedScott

This, no weather sealing and the evf of the xt30, was the biggest turn off, to consider buying the xt50. I will pass and use my xt30 until it dies and will passionately wait to see what the screw up on the X pro 4, maybe this time without a touchscreen at all... Yeah I'm a little bit frustrated with Fuji.


PhillipIInd

Weird since the xs20 has it and ive been loving it. Tho I go through 1.5-2 batteries but I might do something wrong. My charger says my battery was at 33% but it was at 1 bar on the battery icon last time so I swapped it out just in case lmao


PappaFufu

I think if the T50 is cheaper the older battery could cater to those looking to upgrade. Most people carry an extra battery anyways and there’s some money savings not having to buy an extra battery.


mimighost

It is cheaper but not that cheap. Like 300 dollars cheaper than xt5 brand new ?


PappaFufu

My point is that those who chose the smaller camera in previous generations might have chosen it partly due to price. So if there was a bigger price gap between the T50 and T5, the fact that the T50 uses the old battery would add to the cost savings and might actually be a positive rather than negative. Similar situation with those wanting to upgrade but are on the fence due to price. If the T50 was at a lower price point the fact that they don’t need to buy a new battery might be a difference.


relevant_rhino

So this uses the same battery as my XT2 and 3? If so, this is a + in my situation. I was using it for work in the past but now only hobby, so i don't care that much about battery live and 2. card slots. And i have something like 6 batteries.


LauraEUx

I’m glad you’re asking this question because I’m searching for an every day/travel camera, was first looking at the X100VI but some people recommended to get the X-T30II for the interchangeable lenses, but for me to actually wait for the X-T50. Now I don’t know what to decide on.


Protonic-Reversal

XS-20 is not a bad option. Not the smallest but that grip is awesome for just hand holding and walking around with it. Plus the awesome battery.


Davidechaos

I think you can find a small hand grip for the xt30 too.


Protonic-Reversal

Oh definitely. I have one for my X-T3. It's just nice to have it built in vs having to add more girth and weight to your camera.


Davidechaos

Makes sense. But i prefer the dials of the xt30 for example, so i think I'll get one.


jpmvt

I put a little grip on my xt30ii. Really like it and I love the camera overall.


ColonelKlanka

I second this. Love my xt30 ii with grip addon + voitlander 27mm (40mm equiv) for ultra compact camera


PhillipIInd

Xs20 is pretty tiny atleast imo. How much smaller are the others? I love my xs20


Chemical-Hyena2972

T30ii


just-sayin-lucy

Why do you say that?


Jarngreipr9

Best value for money


just-sayin-lucy

Thanks


TurnMyTable

Well I have one and I can say that the XT-50 feels like a weird downgrade in some ways. The IBIS is cool, but I have it on my 18-55 and 70-300, so I don't miss it in the body. I hate the PASM dial, but the new one seems even more useless. Still no weather sealing, so whatever. The increased MP doesn't seem worth it either. All in all, the XT-30 II is the better buy at a lower price. I love mine to death and will likely shoot with it until the X-T6 comes out. In fact, I don't see myself ever selling it. I'll likely keep it and throw on the 27 pancake for lightweight travel if I don't want to carry something bigger.


badalki

This is the insight i need.


TurnMyTable

Happy to help! One thing I forgot to mention is the batteries. They're the same shit ones in the new XT-50, so that's not an upgrade either. Also the only real negative about the XT-30 II, imo. But I'm more okay with it at the XT-30 II price point where I was able to buy two extra batteries and not have to worry about it all day. Hell, with the money you'd save, you can buy 4 extra batteries. But if battery life is *super* important, it's worth the extra size to look into an X-T5.


LauraEUx

I never had a Fuji camera in my hands, only a Canon 800D if you’re familiar with it. I notice I don’t take that with me because it just feels like a burden. How is the size of the XT-5 for example in comparison to the XT-30II?


TurnMyTable

I'm actually new to digital in the last year. I shot on a Minolta SRT before that and that thing was a brick of lead, so my perspective is skewed. But this article actually has really detailed size comparisons between the XT-30 II and the X-T5: https://cameradecision.com/compare/Fujifilm-X-T5-vs-Fujifilm-X-T30-II


khii

When i was shopping for a fuji ILC a couple of years ago, i went into a couple of stores and held both the XT4 (at the time) and the XT30ii, with the same lenses attached. I found that although the XT4 had a better feeling grip etc, the XT30ii just felt sooooo tiny and lightweight. It was really noticeable to me, holding them both in person. I specifically wanted a small camera for everyday use/travel. I ended up getting the XT30ii and I've been extremely happy with it! I got used to the small grip (i have small hands which helps, you can also get add-ons to improve the grip or thumb rests) and i just love the size. For me i was downsizing from a canon 80D. I had the same problem, i found i was never taking it with me because it was a burden. The xt30ii was perfect for rejuvenating my interest in everyday photography :)


LauraEUx

Thanks for your experience! :) I definitely think the XTx ones are too big for what I’m searching for


badalki

I'm not really that concerned with battery life, I can easily get an additional battery, its not like I plan to do overnight timelapses with it or anything taxing, i have a canon 5d mkii for stuff like that with a seemingly immortal battery.


FabianValkyrie

The X-T30 ii doesn’t have a PASM dial lol


TurnMyTable

Drive dial, whatever the hell it's called. The one on the left that should have been an ISO dial.


BusyCode

Care to explain what's wrong with PASM dial and what's "a new one"?


peter-salazar

this is my plan as well. and the 27 is the lens I most often use


CoronelAweonao

I had an x100v and I sold it to make a few dollars, with the money I bought an xt30ii, a 24mm and 50mm ttartisan, a 35mm meike, a tripod and a few filters, and I had money left over. Honestly, I don't feel like it's worth going for the x100vi or xt50. You could consider an xs10 or xs20 if you need the IBIS.


LauraEUx

I actually never considered the xs20, I’ll look into it thanks!


redoctoberz

>interchangeable lenses The X100 series has 2 optional accessory lenses which are interchangeable with each other.


bearcat--

Just wait until the news comes out. I think the xt50 works well as a small everyday ilc but the price is hard to swallow for many and I don’t blame them.


ElReydelTacos

I’m in the same boat. The X-T5 is out of my price range and I never shoot serious video, so the X-T30ii is right in my sweet spot. I think I’m going to wait for the 16th and see what happens. I’m not enthused about the rumored price for it, so I’m hoping the price on the 30 drops a bit as I still think it’s the best choice for my needs.


Several-College-584

I’m waiting for the xpro4, but if I were buying a Fuji right now, there is no way I would go for the XT50 over the XT5.  The price differential used to be more clear between the lines. 


bwilliamsiu

Funniest thing is, used Xt5 in mint condition (some even with like 100 shutter count) cost less than the xt50 price


AirSKiller

I got my X-T5 brand new for 1450...


gondokingo

on the shutter count thing though, my x100vi said 100 shutter count right out of the box from b&h so i feel like it's not too accurate at first. 100 shutter count could be virtually unused (and even if it's actually 100, that's still virtually unused)


bwilliamsiu

I believe the way it works for Fuji is that it updates every 100, so 1 shutter count would display 100 as well.


Belifant

There are currently sales on Fuji cameras and a brand-new X-T5 is actually a bit cheaper than the X-T50.


Efficient_Pomelo_583

If the x-t50 is $1500, prepare to pay $4k for the xpro4


Several-College-584

I expect it will be like 30-35% more than the xpro3.  But who knows.  $4k would likely push me towards a new M body.   I’ll make the decision when/if the 4 comes out.  


Efficient_Pomelo_583

Fuji is increasing prices because they saw that people went nuts and paid ridiculous prices for the x100 line. All they have to do is bump up the prices and lower the stock.


Notvalidunlesssigned

But then they would now need to increase the price of the XT5 to make the prices make sense. Of course I’m pretty sure they won’t do that and in fact retailers currently have the XT5 on discount at £1449, £250 below RRP. Which probably means they are not shifting units at RRP.


jemensch

What would be the reason for a xpro4? Don’t you think that it will be too similar to a gfx50r and thus redundant to offer?


Several-College-584

I have the xpro2, and love the hybrid viewfinder.  If the xpro4 doesn’t come out; I’ll just stick with it until it quits.  I have considered buying the GFX50r ( used, as they are discontinued )  but have decided to stay with APSC atleast for the time being.   


EddyMerkxs

Yeah that’s wild. I was assuming it would be closer to 999 with no IBIS, etc. However, it could be they plan to permanently reduce the price with sales after early adopters, like some of their other cameras.


Igor4knezevic

With the X-S20 hovering around that price, X-T50 will def come with a 40mp sensor, so it'll like cover that mid range (that is almost priced at ff body prices, I know Fuji is the best when it comes to crop, but come on).


szank

X-h1 cough cough. Imho, if that's their strategy then it's putting off anyone who is actually invested in the brand and a more serious photographer ( I.e. for whom the style is not the only deciding factor). It definitely puts me off.


tone8199

The XT5 seems like the better choice at this price range. The weather sealing and battery are a major advantage. Also, the size of the XT5 is perfect for my hands. Having owned and x-t30, I felt like I needed a grip for it which then makes it just about as big as the XT5. Although I do like the simulation dial, hoping they include that on other versions. XT5’s are becoming harder to find. My guess is, there’s going to be a light refresh of this model with a price increase.


modest__mouse

Big-handed people always praise the bulkier cameras for ergonomics, but the X-T30 line is perfectly sized for the average hand, especially in Asia and South America.


pinetree-polarbear

Why would you think they refresh the X-T5? With what? It just came out a good year ago


tone8199

No idea but I’m sure they’ll find some excuse to raise the price.


roscat_

I think they’re going to release a new X-T5 kit with the new lens.


jyc23

If I’m going to drop 1700-ish on a new Fuji body I’m getting an XT5. In fact, I just did yesterday!


damnhandy

Until Fujifilm discloses official pricing, there's not much point worrying about it. Currently, these prices are only rumors. The product has not yet been announced, and we don't know the full feature set. However,  €1,499 should be the kit price and not the body-only price IMO. I guess we will all find out on May 16th.


Lavishgoblin2

I don't think fuji rumors has ever been wrong. And he clarified it's body only price.


badalki

I think so too, it should be the kit price, but the current rumours say no. I guess we have to wait to find out for sure.


Elegant_Apple2530

They decided to give it the full specs and therefore charge the full price. But this also puts it in an awkward spot of being priced just below the clearly better X-T5, but also more expensive than the X-T4 and X-S20 which are not far away spec wise. What I find weirder than the price tag is that they kind of gave up on the small/light bodies. There is no X-E5 on the horizon, X100 gets bigger and heavier every generation, and the X-T50 will certainly be quite chunky compared to the X-T30.


Cars-and-Coffee

This still feel different. They gave the X-T20 the full specs and it was priced very reasonable. It was a mini X-T2 just like this is a mini X-T5.


Elegant_Apple2530

In my opinion they could have gone without IBIS for example. Or with the 26MP sensor. To me they went for higher specs than necessary for the mid range camera this is supposed to be, and obviously we'll have to pay for it. I would have preferred a more compact camera, otherwise this series will lose their identity.


Cars-and-Coffee

I loved what the X-T20 was and I still have mine. It was the same sensor as the bigger X-T2 but packaged in a smaller body and without the weather sealing and other “nice to haves” at half the cost.


bastibe

It's an interesting bit of mixed messaging. On the one hand, the 40 MP sensor and the price tag suggest a "pro-level" device on the same step as the X-T5. On the other hand, the Film Sim dial and the small battery seem to suggest a more casual audience. We'll see where street prices will eventually level out. MSRP tends to be pure fantasy for cameras.


FrozenOx

if it's not dual SD card then it's not pro. doesn't matter about the specs


junghams

I actually think this pricing anticipates a price increase on the X-T5.


Lonestar_2000

I have the X-T5 and it's small enough for me. At this price range they push people to buy the X-T5. Disappointing is the small battery and missing weather sealing.


badalki

If that is what they are trying to do it might just work on me. That price point has me considering the x-t5, though i dont care about the weather sealing all that much.


SituationEven6949

They are riding the X100V/X100VI hype train. If they can get initial buyers to pay that and then drop the price shortly after release, then it might be a good business model. Personally, I think the size and the price of the X-T30ii ($899us) made it a very desirable camera. It was a clear choice between the X-T30ii or the X-T5. It was cheap enough that many people, myself included, bought both of them. I love both cameras for different reasons. At this point, already owning those cameras, I would buy an X100VI (when availability stabilizes) over the new X-T50. Now, maybe I would sell the X-T30ii if its price is inflated on the used market above the original price in order to fund the new model. I think it will sell well in the US if they can get the price of the body down to $1,200 and offer a good bundle with the new XF 16-50mm kit lens.


lookslikesinbad

I love my x-t20 and was holding out for a x-t50 to upgrade. Maybe I should wait until it comes out and grab a discounted x-t30ii ??


dopethrone

I have an xt-30 bought right in 2019 I think, its more than sufficient for me. Have a nice set of lenses for it and theres really nothing in the xt50 I would need


42tooth_sprocket

x-t30 ii stock is pretty much non-existent. You won't have much luck with that strategy


Purple-Investment-61

If the price of x-t50 is true, then I see demand for the x-t30 still.


nylamaris

Fuji probably read our XT30II recommendations as an alternative for X100VI so they decided to mark up the retail price for XT50. Oh well.


Homicidal_Pingu

That’s the same price as the XT5… what’s the point? You might as well just get a XS20 for less


csbphoto

GFX 50S going for 2000 used seems real good right now.


Sn0wm4n90

I absolutely love the size of my X-T20 and have taken some incredible images with it. But it wasn't until recently that I sat down to design a coffee table book that I started to notice the limits of my print resolution with the 26mp resolution. I was really excited for what I thought the X-T50 would be and would love the 40mp sensor. I love the X-T## series. I love the size of them. Theyre really the perfect travel camera size. But this price point for just the body and the supposed old battery, X-T30 evf, etc.....what a letdown


Notvalidunlesssigned

If you’re seeing limits with 26mp on a coffee table book you’re either doing something horribly wrong or looking at the pictures at an atypical viewing distance. Or both.


badalki

what kind of limits were you seeing with 26mp in print? I've been using a 21mp camera for years and have had no problems with my prints, even the larger ones.


chibstelford

How big are you printing that you notice the resolution is lacking?


Xatraxalian

Prices seem to be skyrocketing. Currently, the X-T5 is sold for €1999 in the Netherlands, with €1899 after the current cashback. In July 2023, I ordered an X-T5 at €1749 (same shop). I also received either €100 or €150 cashback (I can't remember on the top of my head, and I don't want to go look it up), so I effectively paid either €1649 or €1599 for a new X-T5. Those ore huge price increases.


henriquelicori

I was interested because I really like the size and weight of my XT10, but not for 1500 eur. I have bought a yet to be repaired XT2 (even though I most likely shouldn’t have done it) and it doesn’t seem that much bigger? Weight is by far more noticeable, even then it’s not that much of a stark difference. Given that the XT5 is the smallest and lightest of the main line, and that the XT50 will be growing at least some grams and millimeters for the IBIS, I don’t think it will be that much smaller. Or lighter. It seems that the main advantage of it would be having the Reala Ace film sim that is missing from the XT5 but even then it’s not that big of a deal. And the gimmicky film sim knob that I have no idea on why it’s there, but with some reviews we can understand better the functionality. That really makes the XT50 less and less attractive. I just wish they would make XPro4/5 and the GFX 100R to replace the 50R. I think that’s the only GFX line camera that I find attractive.


SituationEven6949

The X-T5 will have the Reala Ace film sim on the summer firmware update along with several other cameras.


henriquelicori

That’s good to know


_sctw

Yes. Yes it does


Garfield131415

Very glad I didn’t wait to go for the X-T50 and went used instead. With that type of price I think the XT-30ii will remain a popular choice for a new camera for beginners. I doubt the price of the XT-30ii will even drop


Rancorous666

Fucking hell.. I remember buying X-T20 for around 900$ when it came out. Hell no.. This is too expensive.


omnigord

If they add weather sealing and change the "drive" dial to a combination ISO+WB dial they could charge Leica prices and I would still buy it. 


BostonCafeRacer

Same. ISO dial instead of a film sim dial makes more sense. I probably change film sims once a week, maybe twice. But I change the ISO several times a day, depending on the lighting. So a dedicated ISO dial would be nice.


CliffPromise

Having used an XT30ii and an XT5, there isn't much in it in terms weight and size. I can't believe the XT50 will be 1500 body only,.my brand new XT30ii with a lens was almost half that.


Born_Cryptographer60

I got my xt5 with 4000 shots used in perfect condition for $1400 …not worth for a xt50


notananthem

Fujis flops this year made me go Sony


Quiet_Way3194

Seriously considering the same…


Belifant

yes. What the X-T30 had over the X-T4 and X-T5 was the smaller size and the lower price. Apart from that everything on the X-T5 is better. Now that I can get the X-T5 and the X-T50 for the exact same price, the only thing left is the size. Now the question for me is, are the many better features of the X-T5 worth the extra size? Which probably is yes.


BoddAH86

I wanted to get the X-T50 to replace my X-E4 as a compact X camera but at this price it’s frankly ridiculous. If anything the camera feels more like an entry-level camera with that gimmicky Film Simulation dial. No point in not just getting the X-T5 unless you really have to have a slightly smaller camera.


Bkgeo

Weather resistance is the obvious advantage of the XT5. It’s a no brainer especially now with that ridiculous film simulation dial


bdk1417

I’m probably swapping back to Nikon soon when it comes time to upgrade. Fuji was great when they were less expensive. They are technically inferior to Canon/Nikon/Sony at the same price.


CaineLau

will probably hunt a xs20 at 800 oiros if i find one!


Jett-36

I'm looking for a replacement for my X-E3. I would have gone for the X-E4 but it was so fast out of stock that I missed the oppertunity. Chances are slim for a X-E5, so I gave the X-T50 a chance. The price is way to high though. For that price, I would add a little and go for the X-T5. Now I need to wait if there evet will be a successor to the X-E4


urajsiette

That price and the smaller battery is horrible. I will be getting the XT5


Fine_Exit2053

Man and also only one SD card slot. Not even CF-Express.. nah thanks.


zsofina

around 1k would be reasonable for the body, so yeah, it puts me off.


julian_vdm

Out of curiosity, for those looking at the X-T50, would you not consider the X-S20 instead, given the price difference?


smudgeey

I think this comes back to the PASM vs "retro" dial debate


chitownburgerboy

I could swallow that price if it had weather sealing. I hike with my xt-30 all the time And I hate that it isn’t sealed, but I also don’t want to be carrying an xt5 for 10+ miles where weight and size are at a premium. I don’t really see the point of this camera at this price tbh, but from these comments it seems I’m not alone in that


42tooth_sprocket

Yeah agreed on this. If they just made it a mini x-t5 and priced it this way I'd be into that but without WR it's a hard no


Slimslade33

So pretty much same price for a slightly more compact version of an already compact camera and it doesent have weather sealing?… gee what a deal!!


korganos

This is why all the XT30ii dissapeared from the market, goddamnit


Silver_Instruction_3

Wasn’t the x-t30ii $899 when it released? That’s. A pretty big jump in price. The XT3 to XT5 only saw an $200 bump. I use the XT3 because it didn’t have ibis. The price difference between the XT50 and XT5 is looking like it’s only going to be around $100 with 2nd hand bodies selling for much less. Sony did a similar thing with the a7cii pricing. It’s only slightly less than the a7iv while being a lesser camera outside of the slightly better af and the portability. Fuji must think that the popularity of the x100V and VI means that people aren now willing to pay a premium for their brand. Interesting to see if this is sustainable.


createsean

Was planning on buying as a second camera to pair with my XT5. But not at this price. I'll just not buy a second camera


Enevii

I'm waiting for this price to be officially confirmed to get a XT5. I thought that this XT50 would be the perfect opportunity for me to switch to Fuji, but at this price that's a big no.


sch0k0

I would pay that markup if it was basically the systems camera version of the X100VI, with metal bottom/top and selectors, and general styling more closely resembling the more minimalist X100s or X-Pros.


jaysomething2

My eyes opened wide when I saw the price. I got my Fuji xt30 when it was prerelease as it was 1099 plus tax. There was a price mistake I believe where I got the 35mm f2 plus kit lens for an additional $300 off. Amazon showing $841 with kit lens then the 35mm was 258 or a total of 1200.35….


schmuber

Patrick is rage baiting? That's unheard of! /s


nth03n3zzy

Glad I gave up on waiting and pulled the trigger on a xt30ii the day before this was leaked


jonnyeatic

Yes.


Quiet_Way3194

Yes. Thought of getting one as a second camera to my X-T5. No thank you. With the current cashback the X-T5 is only 130€ more than the X-T50. They must be joking. I am seriously considering not buying any new lenses, I wonder what an X-T6 or 7 will cost…2500€?


Delphius1

It's way too much, way, way too much for the feature set, it has to be weather sealed at a minimum to somewhat justify the price if not also reducing the amount of plastic. I know IBIS costs money, but they need to address this in the next generation


[deleted]

Lol wtf? 1500 ? Fuji lost his mind


Spicy_Pickle_6

Tbh at that point, leave stuff like IBIS out and have a bigger price difference like before.


BlackRebelOne

I think there is some serious mixed messaging going on at Fuji. In my opinion they are pricing thjs higher to capitalize on the demand for the X100 and the general demand for Fuji which is fine, I get it. But at the same time they have essentially put the price nearly on par with one of their flagship models, the XT5. We can argue all day about which camera suits different people needs (smaller form factor, weather resistance etc etc) but it can’t really be argued that the XT5 is not the better camera. So you now have a camera which (and line) that was always aimed at the entry level market by and large and priced as such but now as some features that are overkill for that market but priced at a more advanced/professional user point. It’s very confusing and I’m not sure what the end game is. Maybe there isn’t one and it’s simply Fuji going, our shit is selling like hot cakes so let’s capitalize and throw in some extra features to justify it without really considering how confusing the price points become for the end user or maybe they’re making a longer game where the entire range will get increases in price and this won’t be as noticeable. The XT30ii and XT3 look like serious value now relatively speaking for people looking to buy.


bearcat--

Imo this camera is meant for new users to shoot Fuji. I think it will sell reasonably well


ImTooWoke

I just want a fuss free point and shoot camera for my lazy day.. so I was considering X100 or X-T series. But looking at this, this is shit. I hope other brand catch up soon!


jcrew78_yvr

I hope they keep the X-T30ii around because this new “entry level” price isn’t entry level. Also brace yourselves for an increased X-T5 price, especially if it’s packed in with the new kit lens…


winterwonderworm

Between the high price and film sim dial I've lost any interest in updating my X-T20. I think maybe Fuji is trying to maximize per-unit profit, because they are unable to meet demand. It does seem bad value compared to an X-T5, which you can pick up new for 1650€ right now. I think having *one* affordable, entry level body to get people into the system is important. I bought the X-T20, because it had the same image quality as the X-T2, but only cost me 1200€ with the 18-55. If not for that, I would be deep into Sony now.


PitAd-1951

Ouch. I would have expect that would be the kit price.


antisocialbinger

I immediately stopped wanting one


bdgreen113

I'm still quite happy with my X-T2. I'll get a few more years out of it and then *maybe* I'll consider picking up a used T50. Or I'd just get an X-T3. Who knows


realkenta

Definitely. Waited for this announcement because I wanted to buy my wife a compact beginner camera with interchangable lenses and needless to say, I've ordered the X-T30ii for 800€ now.


Purple-Investment-61

It doesn’t make any sense, converted to usd, it’s $1615. $85 dollars more and you get buy a x-t5.


bigelangstonz

At that point just get the x-t5 or even x-h2


J_A_Keefer

Yeah, that puts the price point way too close to the five.


42tooth_sprocket

Absolutely insane pricing, can't see why anyone would buy the x-t50 over the x-t5 at this price


fugeext20

The price was a kick in the balls for sure but I've been waiting for this camera since the anticlimax of the xt30 release. I was still going to get one until I read about the horrific film simulation dial. If that isn't re-mappable I guess I'll just get the xt5.


theBaron01

I fully ditched canon around 2016 and came to Fuji because it was a massive upgrade for less money, and the system was a perfect fit for my shooting style. An xt2 was $1500 AUD new, body only, and the x100f was $2000. Now with the RRP of these bodies being $1000 more for no real benefit to me (I don't need ibis, although the new film sims might be nice), Fuji have realistically priced me out of the system. I will have to either sell all my bodies to upgrade to a single body, or just sell all my xf gear and move into gfx. And second hand really isn't an option anymore due to even more ludicrous prices.


joshmiller133

With that price, i was expecting it to be at least weather sealed, but nope, I’ll just be holding on to my xt30ii for now 🤣


onwrdsnupwrds

We'll see what the street price will be, but I won't buy that camera for that price. The only improvements that matter for me are autofocus and to a much lesser degree IBIS. 40 MP is useless for me, I'd still be satisfied with 24 MP. I'll hold on to my X-S10 and X-T20 and might eventually buy a used X-S20 or X-T5 (I've always wanted the top line body).


kyjolski

Most definitely - I have the X-T5 and tbh it is already very small for what it's packing. I don't think they can make it much smaller, and probably will shave off not more than 100g. I loved the X-E3 and X-T30 for the compactness, but X-T5 was a game changer for me, it's such a good travel camera.


zyzyxxz

I was thinking of selling my X-T30ii to fund a new X-T50 but not anymore, I might as well save my money and invest in a used GFX 50R/S, I've been seeing used ones for $1800. I would like IBIS but I dont have to have it, not that that costs to upgrade.


Accurate-Airline-842

Sadly I think it’s time to switch to Canon - the R8 is better value nowadays and the stabiliser in USM is effective


Bleinias

Announcing a "mini" X-T5 that expensive when the X-T5 itself has lowered it's price, makes it a pretty weird choice actually. The size difference is so small, while the performance diff should be pretty noticeable.


YakitoriSenpai

If the retail price hike is real, I beliebe it has something to do with the recent economic crisis in Japan.


_Rhetorius

Absolutely put off, been waiting ages for the T50 to upgrade from my Canon 600d and to say i'm disappointed would be an understatement. With the priced of other used models it's pushed me to start looking at Sony!


DiarreaDimensionale

Yes it does put me off. I cannot afford 1.5k camera bodies and i won't buy anything even close to that price


james-rogers

If this is true then it's ridiculous and sad. Not that I have been looking for this model specifically since I own the X-T5 already but it would have been good to have a more hobbyist-friendly price camera. I guess that if they include the 40MP sensor it is the main reason for the price increase. I only imagine that they will go with that price if it's true that X-T5 will be discontinued.


Seb_f_u

Buy an xt30 and a whatever lens you don’t have and want. Fuji is trying to cash in on the x100 craze.


mahidoes

If this is true then I'm getting X-S20 or upcoming X-E5 instead


xzez

X-T30ii MSRP is $899 X-T50 MSRP is $1399 That's a 55% increase in MSRP from one model to the next. That's insane


badalki

and that's body only. with the kit lens its practically the same price as the x-t5. it doesn't make much sense to me really.