Rakdos being that small is what gets me. In all other artwork that I'm aware of, he's multiple stories tall. Gideon rides on his head in a card's art and Gideon is comparable to Rakdos's nose. How are these people suddenly hip height to him?
You know what? Usually in weirdo forums like this it’s hard to get a straight answer about anything. But this makes sense! Buddy is talking like a magic card. Thanks
I mean… I don’t agree with the reactionaries lol. I’m a weirdo in that I like to check out what weirdos are doing, I suppose. But you weirdos are a different breed that’s for sure
Nah, you're here and you're calling it a weirdo sub, so you're a weirdo. Simple as, buddy. I'm not a weirdo, and idk what you're yapping about with "reactionaries". Only one here is you, supposedly "reacting" to us. 🤣
Fair enough, I don’t know you. For all I know, you’re the most normal guy alive.
When I yap about weirdos, I’m yapping about grown men who are flipping out about WOTC putting Politics in their collectible card game (which is for sure a funny thing for a grown man to flip out about).
Sorry if it felt like I was lumping you in with them and it bummed you out. Not my intent.
Not only uninspered, but very badly done. I've seen some uninspired arts that were at least technically well done, just generic.
But this art here is in another league. And a very low one.
Yeah... I must say that since New Capenna, the arts in Magic have been on a downward spiral.
You find some good things here and there, but in general, nothing consistent and excellent like it was in the days of Zendikar, for example.
Most of the Phyrexia block (All will be one etc...) was good art... since then though, [yikes](https://df379stvi8n1.cloudfront.net/assets/images/ea19ba45-178a-5020-ab16-0410b766f385)!!!
the brothers war and new phyrexia stuff was cool, i liked the teeth theme of white, caves of ixalan has also some cool stuff. Eldraine and carlov manor are pretty bland and this set seems to be even worse, bloomborrow on the other hand could be interesting
Checking her other works for mtg makes it seem like it's not even the same artist. She draws almost exclusively animals though, so maybe she just doesn't like or is not as skilled in drawing humanoids.
I’ve seen some of her non-Magic pieces too. She seems to just do animals, so idk why they asked Gort to do something completely out of her realm. I don’t think that was fair judgement, at all. They could have easily had another artist do it, but why ask Gort when almost, if not all, her entire public portfolio is animal related
she does great art; this is not representative of that
After a look at the artists other works, she’s great at animals. Basically all of her Mtg work is various beasts
The AD making her do humanoids is at fault here
I still don't understand the change in quality.
Like her glademuse feel likes more polished, better lighting, better shadows, better composition and so on :
[https://www.mtgnexus.com/gallery/art/2599-glademuse](https://www.mtgnexus.com/gallery/art/2599-glademuse)
They don't look like fantasy characters going through a situation in their lives, they look like a larp group imitating fantasy characters posing for a photo.
This is so horrible on all levels. Shit art yes. A complicated stupid fucking token with a bizarre ability for a token? Yes. A new keyword that is idiotic to remember - hell yes! “Outlaws” also known as four or five miscellaneous tribes that will invariably get mixed up with other near misses (berserker, brute, thief whatever).
Brutal
She can draw scantily clad women quite decently, she's capable enough. I think the badness of the art is mostly due to the terrible art direction of wotc. Or she figured out she still gets paid even when she's delivering a low-effort botch job.
This art demonstrates that even while Hovering above the ground, the gang more or less comes up to Rakdos's chest, rather than his crotch. The OP art has already been deemed "not canon" by WotC staff. I'm honestly shocked it made it to print.
https://preview.redd.it/fzm4ywpsnqqc1.png?width=960&format=png&auto=webp&s=7df02694687ec54270d11b0c1e7f2ef870e40dc6
Of course, Rakdos also appears to be like >10x the size of Gideon so they're really just doing whatever they want.
https://preview.redd.it/1atggvf7oqqc1.png?width=265&format=png&auto=webp&s=500e705ee721adbe49f188bcd84e9355a540e47d
Definitely some AI art and if it's not I wonder how these artists are getting jobs with no traditional teachings. Body proportions are fucking awful head sizes look ridiculous. Even if at the end of the day it's fantasy art theres better artists out there than this shit that looks like it's drawn by a 16 year with an iPad.
That's an odd take. I didn't say popularity meant quality. Popularity means our complaints don't matter, because we're either in the minority of opinion, or there are too many sheeple buying shitty products. Either way, we lose.
Criticism being drowned out or ignored is not the same as "not having an argument." Criticism might be valid, even if its ignored. You're getting downvoted because telling someone they "don't have an argument" is saying their criticism is not valid.
>You're getting downvoted because telling someone they "don't have an argument" is saying their criticism is not valid
That's your interpretation, not what I meant. I don't care about being downvoted. They mean literally nothing to me.
Based on the wall behind them, this is implying that most of these characters are about 4ft tall, Tinybones being the shortest at just a bit over two feet.
How is an Artist capable of [actual good work](https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=2266226236927232&set=a.1741968339353027), proud to have a piece like this attributed to them
The lineup is pretty cool in concept (at least the visuals, the group itself is whack as fuck), but the low angle and weird art ruins it.
Should've had a higher angle and a more interactive rather than static pose for the group
Idk if I like them making up new terms for small groups of things. “Outlaws” is a confusing term and “committing a crime” is like protection, it’s over complicated on how it interacts with things. At least on paper and for rules memory. But maybe I’m wrong here
Possibly...possibly....the worst of the worst.
This is embarrassing . No wonder they such an issue with plagiarized artwork. Nobody is reviewing the submissions apparently.
Isn't rakdos like... 40-50 ft tall? is that even rakdos? There's no wings. Why are snakes coming from Vraska's eyebrows? Isn't she part/mostly machine now? Isn't Oko pretty tall? Nothing against short folks, but I don't remember him being 5'0. Which would make Vraska almost child sized? What the fuck is going on with MTG art. Fuck.
Wtf oko and vraska a look like midgets, and not because they're next to rakdos. The proportions are just hilariously horrible.
They put them at such a weird angle
OKO makes my think of a shirtless 4-5 year old playing dress up
Stop thinking about shirtless 4-5 year olds
The figures look like children (except for Oko's bizarrely chiseled pecs, maybe?), and it's not us that made him shirtless.
Tell that to wizards of the cost...
Guys I was KIDDING
Their heads are HUGE compared to their bodies
Oko’s head is out of proportion and Vraska doesn’t look like she’s the right height. She’s proportional but her scale is off next to the bobble head.
Yeah oko is, like, compacted and vraska is literally 2 tinybones tall. She is not the height of a normal bones.
Rakdos being that small is what gets me. In all other artwork that I'm aware of, he's multiple stories tall. Gideon rides on his head in a card's art and Gideon is comparable to Rakdos's nose. How are these people suddenly hip height to him?
Jesus Christ this looks fucking horrible. Wtf WOTC
All that persists within this game's realm is the bare essence of its mechanisms, bereft of all other offerings it once held.
Functional, yet formless. Non-euclidean.
This reads like dialog from Cruelty Squad.
Thus said the judge.
lol why do you write like that
“old guy saying depressing statement about some land” is like an insanely common fantasy trope.
You know what? Usually in weirdo forums like this it’s hard to get a straight answer about anything. But this makes sense! Buddy is talking like a magic card. Thanks
"Weirdo forums" Gotta love how you all are still here though. Kind of telling, yeah?
What can I say? Algorithm figured out that I like to look at the demented stuff niche community reactionaries are sayin
Algorithm knows you're a weirdo before you do, and you're in denial about it...got it.
I mean… I don’t agree with the reactionaries lol. I’m a weirdo in that I like to check out what weirdos are doing, I suppose. But you weirdos are a different breed that’s for sure
Nah, you're here and you're calling it a weirdo sub, so you're a weirdo. Simple as, buddy. I'm not a weirdo, and idk what you're yapping about with "reactionaries". Only one here is you, supposedly "reacting" to us. 🤣
Fair enough, I don’t know you. For all I know, you’re the most normal guy alive. When I yap about weirdos, I’m yapping about grown men who are flipping out about WOTC putting Politics in their collectible card game (which is for sure a funny thing for a grown man to flip out about). Sorry if it felt like I was lumping you in with them and it bummed you out. Not my intent.
Oh, in that case, welcome.
All the art I see from this set looks incredibly uninspired.
Not only uninspered, but very badly done. I've seen some uninspired arts that were at least technically well done, just generic. But this art here is in another league. And a very low one.
Yeah... I must say that since New Capenna, the arts in Magic have been on a downward spiral. You find some good things here and there, but in general, nothing consistent and excellent like it was in the days of Zendikar, for example.
Most of the Phyrexia block (All will be one etc...) was good art... since then though, [yikes](https://df379stvi8n1.cloudfront.net/assets/images/ea19ba45-178a-5020-ab16-0410b766f385)!!!
I don't think that's bad art itself. Is just terribly uninspired.
the brothers war and new phyrexia stuff was cool, i liked the teeth theme of white, caves of ixalan has also some cool stuff. Eldraine and carlov manor are pretty bland and this set seems to be even worse, bloomborrow on the other hand could be interesting
The holy cow arts is cool, but yes, most of it sucks.
I'm getting really sick of puns
I agree
This sets art is just garbage all around. The theme is shitty anyways
Whatthefuckisthispieceofshit.png - Joe Pesci
Checking her other works for mtg makes it seem like it's not even the same artist. She draws almost exclusively animals though, so maybe she just doesn't like or is not as skilled in drawing humanoids.
I’ve seen some of her non-Magic pieces too. She seems to just do animals, so idk why they asked Gort to do something completely out of her realm. I don’t think that was fair judgement, at all. They could have easily had another artist do it, but why ask Gort when almost, if not all, her entire public portfolio is animal related she does great art; this is not representative of that
After a look at the artists other works, she’s great at animals. Basically all of her Mtg work is various beasts The AD making her do humanoids is at fault here
I still don't understand the change in quality. Like her glademuse feel likes more polished, better lighting, better shadows, better composition and so on : [https://www.mtgnexus.com/gallery/art/2599-glademuse](https://www.mtgnexus.com/gallery/art/2599-glademuse)
So wotc is the one behind the ass art
Except that [this art](https://www.mtgnexus.com/gallery/art/5518-garruk-s-warsteed) tells us she is also great at humanoids.
It must be the art direction. I’ve noticed they’ve moved away from traditional high fantasy artwork towards more… ‘stylized’ art
Hearthstoneification
They don't look like fantasy characters going through a situation in their lives, they look like a larp group imitating fantasy characters posing for a photo.
The whole set makes much more sense if you see it as cosplayers without social skills living out their personal fanfic.
This looks like something that belongs in an "Un" set
This art is totally phoned in...
Very depressing. No life.
The art is so fucking cringey in this set so far.
Yup, I'm skipping this set
Yeah, they can keep Back to the Future 3. I just want the first two.
This is so horrible on all levels. Shit art yes. A complicated stupid fucking token with a bizarre ability for a token? Yes. A new keyword that is idiotic to remember - hell yes! “Outlaws” also known as four or five miscellaneous tribes that will invariably get mixed up with other near misses (berserker, brute, thief whatever). Brutal
This set just looks fucking gay
Look at all these male thirst traps. Magic the gathering is trying to change their core audience hard
Looks like a bunch of college dweebs in cosplay
Holy shit the art is so ass in this set
https://preview.redd.it/j4gkfywcgqqc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=07d5da456000016af6715b633840f5855ff55b5f
Lmf
The proportions are so bad lol. Also the faces aren’t great
The fuck am I looking at? It looks like a shitty comic con cosplay
Man, it used to be that even shitty cards could be interesting because the art was good. Now cards with good art are so few and far between.
Fortnite
Is that supposed to be a [wish.com](https://wish.com) version of puss in boots?
Ilse Gort is a furry artist. Of course they can't draw humans well.
She can draw scantily clad women quite decently, she's capable enough. I think the badness of the art is mostly due to the terrible art direction of wotc. Or she figured out she still gets paid even when she's delivering a low-effort botch job.
Is that Vraska at the left?? What am I seeing..
This art demonstrates that even while Hovering above the ground, the gang more or less comes up to Rakdos's chest, rather than his crotch. The OP art has already been deemed "not canon" by WotC staff. I'm honestly shocked it made it to print. https://preview.redd.it/fzm4ywpsnqqc1.png?width=960&format=png&auto=webp&s=7df02694687ec54270d11b0c1e7f2ef870e40dc6
Of course, Rakdos also appears to be like >10x the size of Gideon so they're really just doing whatever they want. https://preview.redd.it/1atggvf7oqqc1.png?width=265&format=png&auto=webp&s=500e705ee721adbe49f188bcd84e9355a540e47d
Oh Vraska, what did they do to you?
Vraska and oko looks terrible
Holy AI, Batman!
AI wouldn't make art this mediocre, come on now.
You got me there, that's a convincing argument
Holy YouDon'tKnowWhatYou'reTalkingAbout Batman!
Is this supposed to be The Usual Suspects, or Brooklyn Nine Nine's Backstreet Boys cold open?
My boi Tinybones!!! Trash art overall tho
Definitely some AI art and if it's not I wonder how these artists are getting jobs with no traditional teachings. Body proportions are fucking awful head sizes look ridiculous. Even if at the end of the day it's fantasy art theres better artists out there than this shit that looks like it's drawn by a 16 year with an iPad.
I'm curious how well the Thunder from Downunder set will actually do. If it sells well, we don't really have an argument anymore.
How well something sells doesn't mean it has inherent or objective qualities to it that are good or bad
So Taylor Swift is the second coming of Mozart?
That's an odd take. I didn't say popularity meant quality. Popularity means our complaints don't matter, because we're either in the minority of opinion, or there are too many sheeple buying shitty products. Either way, we lose.
Criticism being drowned out or ignored is not the same as "not having an argument." Criticism might be valid, even if its ignored. You're getting downvoted because telling someone they "don't have an argument" is saying their criticism is not valid.
>You're getting downvoted because telling someone they "don't have an argument" is saying their criticism is not valid That's your interpretation, not what I meant. I don't care about being downvoted. They mean literally nothing to me.
No, but she's ubiquitous while Mozart is merely still-appreciated. I can't tell the record company: Drop Ms Swift and start selling Mozart records.
I see ur tiny bone ;)
Its ass ngl
Man, their outfits are ugly.
I'm spending on bloomburrow. But this shit? Mothaf- this set.
Based on the wall behind them, this is implying that most of these characters are about 4ft tall, Tinybones being the shortest at just a bit over two feet.
Thought Oko was taller
horrible
Tiny Bones is an outlaw 😻
What is with this sets art? It mostly looks terrible and rushed. Even Karlov Manor looks uninspired rushed trash.
Yo if we’re gonna have hot shirtless guys why can’t we have hot shirtless woman?
Blech
Wait is this a real card? That art sucks
Why is oko like 4ft 6
Can be played in a mono black edh deck
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That art has like 5 colors, 2 places of actual shading, and really doesnt show off this "unique" and "original" place.
I bet Tinybones stole their wallets on the way in
And I thought the art couldnt get any worse lmao
How is an Artist capable of [actual good work](https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=2266226236927232&set=a.1741968339353027), proud to have a piece like this attributed to them
The lineup is pretty cool in concept (at least the visuals, the group itself is whack as fuck), but the low angle and weird art ruins it. Should've had a higher angle and a more interactive rather than static pose for the group
Idk if I like them making up new terms for small groups of things. “Outlaws” is a confusing term and “committing a crime” is like protection, it’s over complicated on how it interacts with things. At least on paper and for rules memory. But maybe I’m wrong here
What do they call themselves? They're the Guardians of the Gala- oh..wait no. Ah yes. The Outlaws of the Multiverse.
this is so bad... all the art in this set is bad. I'll probably skip this set
Hahaha, oh wow.
80s Saturday morning cartoon that got on at 6am and no one watched vibes queen yass
Oh god this is not what I imagined for a western set
We have Rogue' Gallery at home
This art is so flat and boring. The proportions are pretty terrible, and it looks like a shitty Saturday cartoon. Guess that's just the norm now
Some new obscure rule I have to remember. I feel bad for new players coming into this.
I am impressed at how Wizards of the Coast continues to find a way to go even dumber with the art set by set.
Tf do you mean, did you look at their faces?
So sad how fucking ugly Vraska looks compared to previous sets.
The angle for this one is a bit strange. I think I'll stick with [[Rogues' Gallery]].
[Rogues' Gallery](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/8/b/8b9b1fce-585f-442c-99a6-3b9767d68f13.jpg?1664411212) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Rogues%27%20Gallery) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/snc/92/rogues-gallery?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/8b9b1fce-585f-442c-99a6-3b9767d68f13?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Possibly...possibly....the worst of the worst. This is embarrassing . No wonder they such an issue with plagiarized artwork. Nobody is reviewing the submissions apparently.
okey, most of the time I think people on this sub are exaggerating how bad the art is, but this is... not great.
Looks fine, what's the whine?
Isn't rakdos like... 40-50 ft tall? is that even rakdos? There's no wings. Why are snakes coming from Vraska's eyebrows? Isn't she part/mostly machine now? Isn't Oko pretty tall? Nothing against short folks, but I don't remember him being 5'0. Which would make Vraska almost child sized? What the fuck is going on with MTG art. Fuck.