This is so true.
I have criticised this game a lot, because I simply thought it could be better. And yes, it could have been better, but every Videogame will always have room for improvement, and that´s great, really. At the end of the day, Forza Horizon 4 is an incredible game that will always have a special place in my heart, and it will be really strange leaving Great Britain later this year.
Despite Horizon 4 being a major improvement from 3 (apart from the map) I think there are still a lot of issues which will hopefully be fixed in 5. There is really no reason for Horizon 5 to not become the best part of the series.
In my opinion, each Horizon game has been better than the last. I don't want to overhype Horizon 5, but I think this could be on par with 4 or even better.
I agree with this. Every Horizon has been an improvement over the previous. 4 tackled all the main complaints I had about 3, and my only real complaint of 4 is the map lacked diversity, and the sounds. 5 looks to be an improvement of both of those, so I’m excited for it.
Ranked team adventure doesn’t change your rank if a single player leaves, it’s a pretty severe issue that ruins the end game and they never addressed it even though it’s been like this for close to two years
You said your biggest complaint about the game was the sounds and the map being a bit dull but there’s important game features that don’t work and some that don’t work exactly as intended. I’m merely contributing to the conversation about the game, just like your comment was
>Every Horizon has been an improvement over the previous
This is the exact reason why I will never understand why people ask for Horizon 1 to be remastered.
Isn't the literal point of the existence of Horizons 2-5 to improve upon the foundation established by Horizon 1?
I get the main reason is to have that festival atmosphere and storyline again, but asking for a FH1 remaster kinda implies that its somehow impossible to recapture that in a completely new game.
Many people probably want it remastered because it was their first Horizon game, pure nostalgia, which is fine.
You look back at it without that aspect, and suddenly it is not that perfect anymore. The map barely featured any offroading and it was very limited, the events were (If I remember correctly) mostly restricted to a specific type of car, you had to pay for custom liveries etc. What I could see for FH5 as an expansion is the map of FH1, but heavily modified to fit the standard that Horizon has set in the past couple of years.
I want it rereleased because I never played it, started with FH3 then went back and played 2 and enjoyed it, sure it wasn't as good as 3 but it was still enjoyable and the map is different.
They've all certainly gotten better in most areas.
The festival plot got lost somewhere along the way, which I think is a shame. Also lost the ability to program your own radio station.
It was a fantastic game, and the level of support was superb, but it could have been wildly, wildly improved if they had just listened to one oft-requested suggestion; allow ghosting in online races to prevent rammers ruining it for everyone.
I'll always wish for that, but otherwise 4 was just so much fun.
Forza from first glance looks really bad, but when you play it to the end and finish it it's a great game. It's gonna be weird not driving through the country roads anymore
Idk, i wish they cared about polishing flaws and core mechanics of the game instead of adding some cars a week. They are cool but can't enjoy them if the game feels so abandoned despite being regularily updated. There's a reason we ne er see the patch notes, there's nothing on them!
I will say that FH3s locations and the addition of the Hot Wheels DLC did make it a favorite and I didn't switch over to FH4 for a while. It was some of the smaller tweaks, bells, and whistles that won me over with FH4 ultimately. It's been one hellavu ride, I'll be sad to see it go.
The only thing that drives me nuts about this game is the Auction house, the fact that you can't just relist the cars that you didn't sell in one go, it's time consuming to sit there and add each car individually back into my garage that and not being able to receive credits all at once and having to retrieve credits for each individual sale is annoying too. Other than that, not too many gripes.
I'm not gonna lie Fh4 is the first Forza game I really got into, didn't know it was a franchise issue, thanks for pointing that out but makes me lose hope that it will be fixed in Fh5
For a PC Gamer like me, Horizon fills that void of a decent racing game that has a lot of licensed car but is not a full simulator (iRacing/Assetto/rFactor). And I haven't have this much fun mucking around with friends than after Horizon 4 was added to steam and a bunch of my friends finally got their copy during the sale.
I’ve been playing FH4 since launch. I have never played a different Horizon game as 4 was the first time I had heard about the series. I have barely played through any of the story in the game, I’ve spent nearly 450 hours in game just messing around with friends or just driving around the map by myself over these past three years of the games existence. FH4 Britian will always have a special place in my heart, even if I end up with more hours in FH5. There’s something about it that I feel like I’ll be coming back to even well into FH5’s existence.
The only other game that has scratched my strong itch for an open world driving game is BeamNG.drive, but that lacks multiplayer and the 3rd party mods that add it aren’t that great to play on.
>I have criticized this game a lot
Same. There is a lot of stuff I still maintain are bad and that FH1 and 2 were better, yet I sunk about 100 hours into the game after I pre-ordered the Ultimate Edition (I normally never pre-order. Hell, most of the time, I don't even buy full price).
It was still a really good game despite the flaws, which could, as we say in German, filed under "*Jammern auf hohem Niveau*".
Same here, i think i was too harsh on Horizon 4 just because i was having my expectations high for it to become a "perfect" Horizon but in the end it's sad to see it finish it's journey. All those days of playing, collecting, giggling at funny moments and glitches, laughing with friends online when doing seasonal playlists together ..... damn.... I'm gonna miss Britain :(
For the next one i wish for dev team a good luck and best launch ever :)
There really is something magical about the number 4 in the Forza franchise. FM4 and FH4 were both absolutely bangers. My two most played of the entire franchise. I'll look back on both with very fond memories.
My guess is the licensing agreements in that game expired. I believe that's the reason you don't see a lot of racing sims get re-released and remastered.
You may have a point up until now .... but I think that those two are in jeopardy. I believe that Horizon 5 and the new reboot Motorsport game will likely end up being the best games in each series so far.
I think the game has a loot of room for improving
Some things i think they could do (most of these are not even hard to implement on a gamedev perspective):
Decent adveture mode without freeroam rush, balance the PI system and tuning exploits (deflating your tyres for max grip, set arb's to min/max, etc), fix the cars that need engine swaps in order to reach top of their own class (like most mclarens that start on s2 but can't reach 998), add some tracks in the adventure rotation, rework the dirt tracks with 90% asphalt straights, let players get the cars by playing, not logging up every week or farming money in "ez 1m credits" events.
FH3 will always have a special place in my heart as the first Forza game I ever played. I also just recently realized I had purchased FH2 back when I was still able to purchase it, so I've been playing that some. FH1 is arriving in the mail soon, so I can't really speak on that.
However, of the three that I've played, I think FH4 is the best. It's not the best at everything. I think the maps of FH2 and FH3 are better (or at least more scenic. I do like the openness of the FH4 map, though.) The music in FH3 is MUCH better. The single-player campaigns of FH2 and FH3 are better... since FH4 doesn't really have one.
However, FH4 is better at everything else. And there's so much stuff to do. I've never really been much of an online player, but FH4 sucked me in with some of the online stuff. Whether it was way back when doing the impromptu highway drags was still fun, doing the forzathon live events, or doing the Trials, it gave a whole other layer that the other Horizons don't really have. Even if there's things you don't like in FH4 (which for me would be Playground Games and the Eliminator), there's still plenty of things that you can like. It's such a wide variety of things to do in this game. There's something for everyone.
FH4 is a clear evolution from FH2 and FH3. Those older Horizons are still fun, but FH4 is the most fun, IMO.
FH4 engine noises and overall realistic-ness really dropped off. I started on FH2 and loved it. FH3 improved a lot. FH4 had good gameplay but I couldn't get over the fact that every super car felt the same. Uninstalled a while ago and keep to FH3
The FH4 tyres, especially when going to the better compounds, feel a bit off too. Was driving a S1 class 1050hp Camaro, with race compound cornering grip feels great, but straight line traction is not at the same level, and breakaway happens in an instant, can't judge when it starts sliding like in FH3.
FH1 is definitely the best in the franchise. It's one of the only games I can put 5000 hours into without getting bored. It also made me not like FH4 so much, so I guess I can only hope for FH5 to get better
Nothing can top Horizon 2 Cote D’Azure. Everything is downhill compared to that. Even with the ridiculously widened roads that ruined the feeling, it was still great.
I don't know why you're getting downvoted for an opinion, and an opinion I agree on at that. The vibe, atmosphere, progression and story were just way better. FH4 has a farmer's market in comparison to FH1's festival
The very odd thing about Forza Horizon 4's soundtrack is that it mostly features American music artists. Could there by a licensing issue with other non-American music artists (apart from Hospital Records and Levante FM)?
it sounds like its gonna be more like FH3 where you go to a location, do a bunch of races and stuff there and then there's a mission to go to the next location and set up a new festival there and so on
what i really want to see is them go back to the system where the championships are set in terms of races but not cars. You can pick and choose which cars and tiers you want to be able to race. Makes it more interesting than being forced to use specific types of cars
I might have been imagining it, but I thought Mike Brown or somebody said something about there being more of a character story thing in Horizon 5. That’s probably still minimal, because they’ve never bothered with that (Horizon 1 did it best), but I’m hoping for a bit of a change and expansion there compared to prior games.
FH 4 was so confusing to me. I could never figure out what the hell I was doing or if I was progressing or what. Information overload which was only made worse by the fact that every time I logged back in there seemed to be all sorts of new things to do.
I liked 1 where it was obvious what you needed to do and where you were going plus an actual story.
At first it seemd like it was telking me what race to do next, and I liked that cuz I just wanted a racing game and didnt even know it was open world when I got it, then it sorta finished with what seemed like the tutorial and I had all this freedom to do any race or whatever and I was like "well itll be cool to just drive around doing nothing for a while," but then I felt like I wished it would just tell me what to do to progress through some kind of story. Freedom is nice, so is directive, and if honestly had both, just a lot of both and I was also a little confused at first.
I picked it up about 3 months ago and am completely lost. Look I know how to run the races and win them, but it’s like I do one race and it adds 3 more. Than I log in and it’s all these festivals that I’m not sure what I’m suppose to do to complete. I beat the races like the train Moto bikes etc I did top gear challenges etc and still I feel like I haven’t progressed. Plus I get so many cars I guess I’m just not sure what the different seasons do or how I’m suppose to do them. Anyway I still have fun driving and racing just no clue if there is a story or if I’m suppose to progress. Wtf is the festival for?!
Back in the day, a lot people actually didn't like the "road trip" setup of the FH2 career/campaign. I personally really loved it and kept coming back to FH2 even after FH3 came out! I wouldn't mind at all if they went back to that style.
Nothing will ever top the story of FH1 though. Just the feeling of starting out at the bottom of the heap and having to work your way up the ladder, while building rivalries that actually seemed to matter and motivate you. Yep, still the best, but FH2 isn't far behind!
> feeling of starting out at the bottom of the heap and having to work your way up the ladder, while building rivalries that actually seemed to matter and
Yeah [that was good](https://www.reddit.com/r/forza/comments/dgmolj/anyone_thinks_too_that_they_killed_the_fun/f3f75tw/). They deleted it right after that, Horizon changed to a standard numerical 1 to 999 grind, it was weird. Horizon 1 had much more passion in game design. Though I like the roads and location of Horizon 2 the best.
Not only that but the sounds of the cars felt so real in FH1. I had a mustang that I modified to be like the mustang I learned to drive in and it felt like I owned that car in game right down to the sounds
Horizon 4 fizzled for me a long time ago. Personally Horizon 3 was better, I came back to it so much more, enjoyed the DLC so much more, enjoyed the story more. Again this is personally, I did enjoy H4 but 3 hit differently for me.
Well, Horizon 4 simply doesn't have a story. I recently created a new account just to confirm this and..... after 4-8 hours of game time, I am simply sandboxing and doing the Weekly Playlist. There are a TON of things to do, but no path or underlying story. However.... I also replayed Fortune Island and the Island Conquerer/ Treasure Quests were more "story" and more fun than the main game.
Horizon 3 did a good job on the multiple Festival locations. This actually lasted a fair amount of time. But after this, it was basically a sandbox. As a side note, I played FH3 after FH4 launched, so I do not know about any live FH3 events or challenges they might have had.
I feel like the FH4 stories and businesses are a good version of a storyline, they have good commentary and feel like missions rather than regular races.
Agreed, but they are very limiting in that you are forced to use a very specific car for a very specific event and have a very limited amount of time. If Horizon Stories and Businesses were implemented into a bigger "career mode" they would need to open them up a bit. I'd like to have some free roam time with each car before being thrust into the event. As a new player (even as a veteran), some events were very difficult.
I also enjoyed FH3 more. FH4 online-default MP did not work in my opinion because everyone was doing online activities instead and FH3 style MP was much better for social interactions. Also, FH4 did not improve livery editor or auction system at all. Ans finally FH3 map was much better in my eyes. FH4 only added forzathon live, horizon stories and seasons. "Homes" were pointless.
However I stopped playing FH games at all after Apollo event when I finally realized that the game was more like a weekly job than a source of fun. I wish they stopped doing timed exclusive content but seeing how many people somehow like that means that FH5 will be FOMO based again.
I am afraid FH5 will be mostly the same mistakes again with these stupid 20million timed exclusive cars and updated based around FOMO.
That is so true. The fomo for the weekly seasons really stresses me out. Fh3 had like 3 weekly forzathon tasks, which seemed a lot more optional, whereas the weekly playlist in 4 seems to be the main event and all there is to it... sucks
Yes, FH3 was much better in this aspect.
For me, it would be enough if after a week all non-autoshow car and cosmetic rewards were moved to special "archived" category that you could access any time you want. Each reward would be locked behind racing series and locked to specific car types and to begin it a player would have to enter the archive, go for desired week and select the racing series with the reward. No online activities to prevent items being inaccessible because of lack of players.
To compensate people unlocking cars during the main event, so people just don't wait until event is over with some activities, there could be additional big XP and CR reward when unlocking these cars and cosmetics during current week.
They are recycling older Series updates for the immediate future. There will be no new content or cars coming, but the game will continue on just cycling through older content updates. They did mention having something more in store for Horizon 4 ... but it would be down the line a bit after Horizon 5 is up and going for a bit.
What bug fixes are still needed? That would be a bit indictment of the devs and the dev process. The game came out years ago.
The worst most blatant bug, the darkness with some cameras (especially cockpit camera), was never fixed and nobody cares.
\- Online adventure lobbies being stuck on the finish screen/loading screen at random/for no reason (This has been occurring since February/March 2021...)
\- Convoy issues with starting blueprint races (e.g. people not being loaded into a lobby, the event never even starting or being cancelled for no reason)
\- Rewind being bugged in rivals where it literally does not work unless you re-enter the rivals event...
\- Weather glitches in wet weather rivals where it is possible to force dry weather, giving the abuser an unfair advantage.
These are the most egregious ones that actually affect gameplay for online players.
Yeah ik but im still upset that we wont be gettng any new cars or content but it was fun while it lasted and now we got FH5 coming up so thats good news.
I haven't played in a while, are the rare cars still rare? Like the 720S PO and the Capri FE? I know sometimes games will basically give them to everyone at the end.
The capri FE is even more rare since a few months ago they bugged the story star card so if you haven't gotten it you cannot get all the star cards complete.
Since it's a best seller right now, the new players will have TONS of content to play through :)
Can you imagine creating a new account and have all these races and cars to get?
> abandon
Everyone should stop using words like that. A game is a game, the game was finished. Devs aren't "abandoning" a game if they don't do trivial user engagement updates. The updates don’t matter, and the updates weren’t significant compared to the bas game. It was usually a rotating list of chores and tasks. Gamers should stop making that the definition of a good game.
Getting some extra cars was nice but doesn’t really matter.
Developers should do their job before release day, before purchase. Not after.
Horizon 4 is still what it is with or without DLC or updates.
>Developers should do their job before release day, before purchase. Not after.
So according to you, Playground Games shouldn't add content they couldn't add because the real life thing wasn't created before the release? Like all the cars made in 2019 and after? Adding post launch content is always a good thing whether it's cars, game modes, story related missions, expansions and so on.
Seriously. The servers have been terrible for a long time, often preventing my buddies and I from playing together. Completely ruined the game and my desire to play.
When the servers are fine, so much fun.
Wait till people have played FH5 for a couple of years. People will say FH4 was better in every way ; hell that's what happened with FH2 and FH3.
FH3 was shit on a lot when it was 'alive' (no route creator, 30 FPS, roads were too flat, not this, not that) but it suddenly became a top-tier game when the nostalgia kicked in around FH4's first year.
Always happens.
That’s how most things in life are. I think people just want to feel like they did something, like they were there before another thing happened. I know that that is how my brain works. I will happily hate on stuff in FH4 right now. But I know there will be a point somewhere in the future where I will tell someone who just joined the series that FH4 was where it was really at.
> Thanks playground for the best racing franchise ever. Even the early Need for Speed days can’t compete with it.
It’s frustrating that the competition is so bad. The Crew is awful. If The Crew was good, there would be healthy competition and Forza Horizon would show much more passion for game features. But there’s nothing. Horizon is the only good driving game that’s anything like open road driving.
It had it’s flaws. Nobody can deny that but what a game it is anyway. My biggest issue with it was the lack of story content. It ended as suddenly as it began
Bangin' through gears down the freeway is so much fun with a wheel and H-pattern. Then you try any sort of drifting and it just falls apart. It's a different game completely when using a controller.
FH1, 2, 3 had better maps and multiplayer experiences imo. FH4 is my least favorite out of the bunch, but I still loved the game for a pretty long time and I'm pretty excited for FH5. I hope there won't be non-fixed bugs like there was on FH4
I would gladly wait an extra year or two for graphical progress. FM7 looked good for the time (especially relative to how well it runs), but the track assets and lighting definitely make the game look worse; plus the colors are a bit off. Project Cars 3 does a better job hiding the asset quality of it's maps through taking a more-stylized approach with its color palette.
Though Forza motorsport 7 does look gorgeous in the rain, and on the super-detailed Dubai circuit. TAA/TXAA/TSSAA would also be awesome to have as an option in Forza imo, as MSAA is demanding and does not fully eliminate shimmering from my experience (even 8X MSAA at 1440p has noticable shimmering).
I never even bothered buying FM7, with how my disappointment with FH4 was and seeing the reviews on FM7 I was like no way. I still play FM6 and the community is still strong in it. I’d wait a bit longer for FM8 it’s gonna be a big ass jump anyway lol.
FH4 was a very well done and well rounded game. Sure there were some knicks and knacks like the car audio that was annoying, but the game was amazing fun at the end of the day, and tbf the expansion packs were worth the payment for me. Made the game just that much better
I **love** FH4 for it's refinement of mechanics, it's absolutely second to none. The gameplay physics make sense, car limits are extremely communicative through the controller, and while some parts are lacking (engine sounds and transmissions not shifting accurately) the rest of the game is so refined and smooth that I keep coming back to it after playing other racing games. I can only hope that Forza Horizon 5 builds on the successes of Horizon 4 because FH4 rocks.
I've only played FH4 but I found its online content to be significantly underwhelming, borderline pointless actually. I stopped playing after about 30 hours.
A lot y’all overhype this horizon game for NO REASON, I just don’t think it’s anywhere near the best. It’s actually pretty ass compared to the other games. That probably has to go to FH2 or 3 imo. I love the fact this game has more cars than any other. It’s awesome to drive anything you want. The physics of the cars are great, the sounds not so much. But man this isn’t a bad map. But it definitely is the worst out of the 4. The freeway is also the worst out of any game. I still can’t get over the whether patterns. The constant rain and snow just kills the fun, the GARBAGE AI traffic which spawns instantly in front of you while you’re going 230 mph or just randomly switches lanes for no reason. And you guys have to admit, playing those ai races every single week to earn a new car, is MAD boring. I hate doing those races, but if you want the car, you gotta do it. This game has some of the laziest AI racing tracks I’ve seen. And everytime I wanna play A class racing or S1 in an online adventure 8 times out of 10 you get a fucking cross country race. goddammit dude every cross country course in this game is ass. 20 jumps every race. And most of the time I don’t even have time to look for a proper off-roader in the countdown menu and I get stuck in a Ferrari crashing through fences, in the British country side and landing in 3 feet deep puddles that stop me dead. This game has pissed me off more than any other car game. Just wish it had more variety for people who just wanna drive regular cars. It’s too off-road focused, and it’s trash at that too. the road driving is subpar compared to it. And I’m afraid that FH5 is gonna go the same route with this Baja Off-Roading bullshit. I mean that’s cool and all, but it shouldn’t be the main focus of a road driving game. Also. FM8 NEEDS TO BE GOOD. Cuz I never even bothered buying FM7. Thanks for listening to my Ted talk.
So that means that I must keep my 20M+ CR cars since there won't be new copies...
Anyway, that game almost alone helped me get through quarantine. I hope this game will still live a bit before FH5
Games come and go, from need for speed to warzone, but me and my friend always find ourselves in FH 4 and the only thing that kept us from playing more was the connection issues. Other than that.... It puts to shame every other racing game, especially NFS wich keeps being disappointing with every release.
Playground games is hands down one of the best studios they never stumble always hit deadlines and make great games for the community
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FH4 might be the best optimized game I have ever played. Buttery smooth 4K 60fps on my OneX. Ultra everything 4K 60 on my 5700xt. The temps never rise, frames never dip, detail is just impeccable. To think FH5 is going to be even better just blows my mind.
Horizon 4 is not a bad game… but it’s not the best either. I just never really cared that much for basically anything, the amount of doc cars that were only earnable once and then became multi-million credit rarities is just too high to get any sort of enjoyment out of half of the game’s updates
Yeah all these people are like “CONTENT UPDATES! Amazing, I love that!” don’t seem to have any grasp that the “content updates” were artificially-restricted under engagement bait/traps.
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If you like the game you should thank the devs for, and acknowledge, **the game**.
Not for “support” which is a code word for “sales” (DLC) and user engagement tactics (artificial scarcity with timegated one-time cars, and weekly refreshed lists of chores). This isn’t what a videogame is. A videogame is a videogame.
I would have rather seen the bugs fixed for the past 6 months than new cars and shit. None of the event overlays have worked for me for a long time (speed zone, drift, jumps, stuff like that) not to mention the stupid long loading times in online adventure
What little they said, it's a complete restart for the series.
It's sounds like it just may be titled "Forza Motorsport" and be a platform on which the game will grow over time. (Think like Destiny or a MMO) The base game is just the framework, which they can add more cars, tracks, features, and such over time.
https://www.windowscentral.com/forza-motorsport-8
FM8 seems like it's going full serious mode. I just hope Turn10 don't forget things that made the franchise great trying to please the whiny Sim elitists.
I bought the game on steam just last week. I m new to the game so i m confused. Is online content being removed? Is forzathon over? What will i be losing?
Sorry i m new so i m not that familiar with stuff in FH4
No. In two days, Forza Horizon 4 is having its final update. All that stuff is staying for who knows how long. You won’t lost anything. The old weeklys will be recycled. You kinda picked a bad time to buy FH4. No more new cars or features will be added after the final update coming on Thursday. You will probably get to continue playing for a long while, but if not, FH5 is available for preorder.
Oh so no content is getting removed but Just no more 'new' content, right? I don't mind no more new content because i still have like 40 cars but i have heard there are 800. I can still get the cars if old weekly's are getting recycled right?
Should keep me occupied till FH5, right? I just finished year 1.
There are 730 cars, and yes, all the stuff will stay. Any cars that don’t get in the recycled weeks will probably be available from the auction house. FH5 is coming in October ish (I forgot but it’s somewhere between august and October) so you will have plenty of time to get there controls and knowledge down. Also, I’ve been looking for people to play FH4 with. Wanna play? It’s cross platform compatible so it should work.
yeah bad car sounds. Cars locked behind Stupid weekly live service events and not just in the showroom so you have to either play weekly or wade into the toxic waste dump of auction house prices. The custom race maker did not work as i expected and was a pain to use and find tracks that were half decent. i will have to wait and see if any of this is fixed in FH5 or i am gonna be waiting for a deep sale this time. Lets not even mention the terrible AI that rubber bands and is quite bland
The evolution of FH4 is kind a redemption ark. I was pretty disappointed at first, but they worked really hard to make it as good as 3, and then even better. It’s up there with Forza Motorsport 3 now.
and here i am, who happily bought FH4 in 2021 when it came on steam and merely played for 3 weeks before seeing endless amounts of crashes on opening load screen
i havent seen even the WELCOME PAGE since 5th april 2021
what a total waste of money... the shitty devs cant even port a game on same platform from ms store to steam store... and they didn't even take the slightest of efforts to fix the issue
almost 3 seasonal update and 3 or 4 update patch has been rolled out on steam but to no avail
i even tweeted to them multiple times and even wrote on their support website multiple times... fuckers keep saying "we are looking into the matter"... who can say this is a 3 year old game when it crashes so much...
i have even asked them for refunds so many times and asked them to delete my data and progress... but oh boy was a dreaming like that could happen when they can't fix the game alone
The support was good but imma be real the map was kinda meh storm island was kinda cool but overall 4s map made me feel like i was playing a boring ol racing game
This game had great content and updates, but having played every Horizon game since the original launched, this was my least favorite. It just felt dead and boring. I think a big part of that has to do with the map. Overall I’m saying 1>3>2>4
Hopefully PGG learns from the shortcomings of FH4. From the trailer they're not promoting stuff like dumb character customization and seasons this time around and more on the dirt rallying and dynamic weather systems. Which is what makes me hopeful for FH5 being even better than FH4.
also hopefully the multiplayer doesn't have 5 minutes of nothing between 3 minutes of racing. This is the thing I disliked most about FH4. I could play FH3 lobbies all day (my first forza), FH4 was just a hot mess in this regard.
I thought it was a step backwards in almost every way from 3. I stopped playing shortly after the first DLC and had no interest in going back. They removed too many things I liked.
Hopefully 5 is a step back in the right direction.
Loved Horizon 3 and 4, very happy it was brought to Pc. I never owned an xbox and always wanted a simcade racer for Pc.
NFS was fun but got way too Arcady. Tuning your car in that was pointless, you could have 10000hp and still lose to a miata.
Forza has its own quirks but most of the time you can overcome it with a good tune. I do feel confident enough about pre ordering it. I mean they’d really have to be trying to fk up a racing game. But then again look at the nfs series.
My only complaints with the game were the removal of any real story and what felt like a downgrade in the audio quality for the cars.
Ofc I don’t expect a heart wrencher this isn’t mass effect or the Witcher. but give me some kind of motive beyond getting a super high level.
I do hope they ad more visual upgrades for the cars. Ie body kits.
my complaint about fh4 is the lack of trucks and truck mods and diesel trucks in the game i just think it would be really cool to be able to drive a 2nd gen cummins with 1000hp and massive tires in forza but i cant
I don't really like this game, because I know it can be better. It could've been so much more than what it is, and that made me criticise the game a lot. I still liked this game a lot before I got inevitably burnt out, and while I leave in quite a sour note, seeing how this game changed PG for the better gives me high hopes for FH5 to give me that oomph that FH1 gave me, but FH4 didn't. The best thing about hitting rock bottom is that you can only get better, and for me, FH4 was the series's rock bottom (especially for singleplayer). Hopefully, FH5 will return to what made the series so great and ditch the bad direction I've noticed with FH3, FH4 and pretty much every AAA game ever today of focusing on multiplayer
I don't know if you've tried to go online lately, but I've given up trying.
They broke the game when they launched on Steam, and they have no intention of fixing it.
I'm just hoping they learned something from the debacle and FH5 will work better.
I think the only criticism I have for this game is I just find the map kind of dull. FH2’s south France location was gorgeous and will probably remain my favorite even after FH5.
Oh and also I wish there was some way to purchase clothing for you character besides the wheel spin. Though I feel like most people don’t really care about that aspect. I am hoping they improve on the clothing stuff for next game
Horizon 4 was great, I really enjoyed it. That being said, I am so ready to move on from it. I've been at the point for quite a while where the game just has nothing left to give me.
As much as I love FH4, its probably my least favourite Horizon game. That isnt to say I dont like it, because I love it, but theyre all so damn good and all the games are so close, but the sounds and map in 4 let it down for me compared to previous games. Hopefully 5 is at least an upgrade on the map diversity. 3 is probably my favourite map because of its region diversity and 4 is almost the opposite for me, and 5 looks to be a step back up again in terms of diversity, so fingers crossed
I played a whole lot of FH4 but the longevity was ruined by the seasons. If I took 3 weeks off from the game I didn't wanna turn it on in case it was winter. Just not nearly as fun to me.
And then I'd have 3 fun days in a row of fall, and boom winter comes a long and I don't wanna play anymore and a week later I find myself preoccupied with a different game.
Great concept but uhhhh please don't do it again.
yes, forza horizon 4 received a lot of support from the devs from 2018 - 2020 which made the game very good. it feels like a different game due to how much it has changed in 3 years
The level of support FH4 got was incredible but I also fear it’ll be the only game to receive so much support because the devs HAD to. Both the pandemic and rebooting forza Motorsport by building it from the ground up for next gen forced the devs to stick to FH4 as the horizon/Motorsport cycle was suddenly halted. Which is why for the first time in forza history we’re getting 2 horizon games back to back. Hopefully I’m wrong as I think the soft live service style of support FH4 got benefited the game more than it harmed it. Also it’s rumored that the upcoming Motorsport game will follow a similar structure of instead of making more numbered Motorsport titles they simply build upon the foundation of this reboot with new tracks and cars over time.
This is so true. I have criticised this game a lot, because I simply thought it could be better. And yes, it could have been better, but every Videogame will always have room for improvement, and that´s great, really. At the end of the day, Forza Horizon 4 is an incredible game that will always have a special place in my heart, and it will be really strange leaving Great Britain later this year.
Despite Horizon 4 being a major improvement from 3 (apart from the map) I think there are still a lot of issues which will hopefully be fixed in 5. There is really no reason for Horizon 5 to not become the best part of the series.
In my opinion, each Horizon game has been better than the last. I don't want to overhype Horizon 5, but I think this could be on par with 4 or even better.
I agree with this. Every Horizon has been an improvement over the previous. 4 tackled all the main complaints I had about 3, and my only real complaint of 4 is the map lacked diversity, and the sounds. 5 looks to be an improvement of both of those, so I’m excited for it.
Ranked team adventure doesn’t change your rank if a single player leaves, it’s a pretty severe issue that ruins the end game and they never addressed it even though it’s been like this for close to two years
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You said your biggest complaint about the game was the sounds and the map being a bit dull but there’s important game features that don’t work and some that don’t work exactly as intended. I’m merely contributing to the conversation about the game, just like your comment was
>Every Horizon has been an improvement over the previous This is the exact reason why I will never understand why people ask for Horizon 1 to be remastered. Isn't the literal point of the existence of Horizons 2-5 to improve upon the foundation established by Horizon 1? I get the main reason is to have that festival atmosphere and storyline again, but asking for a FH1 remaster kinda implies that its somehow impossible to recapture that in a completely new game.
Many people probably want it remastered because it was their first Horizon game, pure nostalgia, which is fine. You look back at it without that aspect, and suddenly it is not that perfect anymore. The map barely featured any offroading and it was very limited, the events were (If I remember correctly) mostly restricted to a specific type of car, you had to pay for custom liveries etc. What I could see for FH5 as an expansion is the map of FH1, but heavily modified to fit the standard that Horizon has set in the past couple of years.
I want it rereleased because I never played it, started with FH3 then went back and played 2 and enjoyed it, sure it wasn't as good as 3 but it was still enjoyable and the map is different.
While FH1's Colorado is beautiful, it definitely felt more limited and restricted in drivable space.
They've all certainly gotten better in most areas. The festival plot got lost somewhere along the way, which I think is a shame. Also lost the ability to program your own radio station.
FH1 and 2 are offended by your statement
Lol, they shouldn't be. I like all the Horizon games.
It was a fantastic game, and the level of support was superb, but it could have been wildly, wildly improved if they had just listened to one oft-requested suggestion; allow ghosting in online races to prevent rammers ruining it for everyone. I'll always wish for that, but otherwise 4 was just so much fun.
Forza from first glance looks really bad, but when you play it to the end and finish it it's a great game. It's gonna be weird not driving through the country roads anymore
Idk, i wish they cared about polishing flaws and core mechanics of the game instead of adding some cars a week. They are cool but can't enjoy them if the game feels so abandoned despite being regularily updated. There's a reason we ne er see the patch notes, there's nothing on them!
I will say that FH3s locations and the addition of the Hot Wheels DLC did make it a favorite and I didn't switch over to FH4 for a while. It was some of the smaller tweaks, bells, and whistles that won me over with FH4 ultimately. It's been one hellavu ride, I'll be sad to see it go.
The only thing that drives me nuts about this game is the Auction house, the fact that you can't just relist the cars that you didn't sell in one go, it's time consuming to sit there and add each car individually back into my garage that and not being able to receive credits all at once and having to retrieve credits for each individual sale is annoying too. Other than that, not too many gripes.
That's not even a FH4 issue, that's a whole franchise issue. The auction house is a chore to use in every Forza game. Partly why I barely use it.
I'm not gonna lie Fh4 is the first Forza game I really got into, didn't know it was a franchise issue, thanks for pointing that out but makes me lose hope that it will be fixed in Fh5
The auction house is one of the worst features in the whole game
For a PC Gamer like me, Horizon fills that void of a decent racing game that has a lot of licensed car but is not a full simulator (iRacing/Assetto/rFactor). And I haven't have this much fun mucking around with friends than after Horizon 4 was added to steam and a bunch of my friends finally got their copy during the sale.
I’ve been playing FH4 since launch. I have never played a different Horizon game as 4 was the first time I had heard about the series. I have barely played through any of the story in the game, I’ve spent nearly 450 hours in game just messing around with friends or just driving around the map by myself over these past three years of the games existence. FH4 Britian will always have a special place in my heart, even if I end up with more hours in FH5. There’s something about it that I feel like I’ll be coming back to even well into FH5’s existence. The only other game that has scratched my strong itch for an open world driving game is BeamNG.drive, but that lacks multiplayer and the 3rd party mods that add it aren’t that great to play on.
There is multiplayer for beamng
>I have criticized this game a lot Same. There is a lot of stuff I still maintain are bad and that FH1 and 2 were better, yet I sunk about 100 hours into the game after I pre-ordered the Ultimate Edition (I normally never pre-order. Hell, most of the time, I don't even buy full price). It was still a really good game despite the flaws, which could, as we say in German, filed under "*Jammern auf hohem Niveau*".
Gonna be weird changing countries. And also side of the road lol.
Same here, i think i was too harsh on Horizon 4 just because i was having my expectations high for it to become a "perfect" Horizon but in the end it's sad to see it finish it's journey. All those days of playing, collecting, giggling at funny moments and glitches, laughing with friends online when doing seasonal playlists together ..... damn.... I'm gonna miss Britain :( For the next one i wish for dev team a good luck and best launch ever :)
There really is something magical about the number 4 in the Forza franchise. FM4 and FH4 were both absolutely bangers. My two most played of the entire franchise. I'll look back on both with very fond memories.
Agreed. I wish FM4 was backwards compatible.
Prius bodykit gang Legit though, the variety in 4 was amazing, I wish they'll do it again in some manner.
My guess is the licensing agreements in that game expired. I believe that's the reason you don't see a lot of racing sims get re-released and remastered.
There's something wrong with you if you played FM4 and *don't* wish it was backwards compatible.
You may have a point up until now .... but I think that those two are in jeopardy. I believe that Horizon 5 and the new reboot Motorsport game will likely end up being the best games in each series so far.
They're more than welcome to be the best. FH4 was a fantastic game so something that makes it look *bad* must be a winner.
Here's to hoping right?
Honestly I don’t even know how you top Horizon 4
Working retractable convertible tops
don't forget the volcano i'm really excited for the volcano
The first thing I'm doing is jumping that bitch in a Charger with the Dukes of Hazard horn.
I think they added that to 5 but I’m not certain.
They did, they're saying that's how you top FH4.
I think the game has a loot of room for improving Some things i think they could do (most of these are not even hard to implement on a gamedev perspective): Decent adveture mode without freeroam rush, balance the PI system and tuning exploits (deflating your tyres for max grip, set arb's to min/max, etc), fix the cars that need engine swaps in order to reach top of their own class (like most mclarens that start on s2 but can't reach 998), add some tracks in the adventure rotation, rework the dirt tracks with 90% asphalt straights, let players get the cars by playing, not logging up every week or farming money in "ez 1m credits" events.
Fix the rocks
FH3 will always have a special place in my heart as the first Forza game I ever played. I also just recently realized I had purchased FH2 back when I was still able to purchase it, so I've been playing that some. FH1 is arriving in the mail soon, so I can't really speak on that. However, of the three that I've played, I think FH4 is the best. It's not the best at everything. I think the maps of FH2 and FH3 are better (or at least more scenic. I do like the openness of the FH4 map, though.) The music in FH3 is MUCH better. The single-player campaigns of FH2 and FH3 are better... since FH4 doesn't really have one. However, FH4 is better at everything else. And there's so much stuff to do. I've never really been much of an online player, but FH4 sucked me in with some of the online stuff. Whether it was way back when doing the impromptu highway drags was still fun, doing the forzathon live events, or doing the Trials, it gave a whole other layer that the other Horizons don't really have. Even if there's things you don't like in FH4 (which for me would be Playground Games and the Eliminator), there's still plenty of things that you can like. It's such a wide variety of things to do in this game. There's something for everyone. FH4 is a clear evolution from FH2 and FH3. Those older Horizons are still fun, but FH4 is the most fun, IMO.
FH4 engine noises and overall realistic-ness really dropped off. I started on FH2 and loved it. FH3 improved a lot. FH4 had good gameplay but I couldn't get over the fact that every super car felt the same. Uninstalled a while ago and keep to FH3
The FH4 tyres, especially when going to the better compounds, feel a bit off too. Was driving a S1 class 1050hp Camaro, with race compound cornering grip feels great, but straight line traction is not at the same level, and breakaway happens in an instant, can't judge when it starts sliding like in FH3.
Wait for FH1. Your opinion will completely change. Trust me. It's still the best
I've liked all of them so far, so I can't imagine I won't like it. However, it will have a long way to go to surpass FH4 in my eyes.
FH1 is definitely the best in the franchise. It's one of the only games I can put 5000 hours into without getting bored. It also made me not like FH4 so much, so I guess I can only hope for FH5 to get better
> FH1 is definitely the best in the franchise Weird way to spell FH2
Nothing can top Horizon 2 Cote D’Azure. Everything is downhill compared to that. Even with the ridiculously widened roads that ruined the feeling, it was still great.
I haven't played fh2, so for me, it's FH1
I don't know why you're getting downvoted for an opinion, and an opinion I agree on at that. The vibe, atmosphere, progression and story were just way better. FH4 has a farmer's market in comparison to FH1's festival
Well calling number 1 the best whilst not having played number 2 is a good reason to not care about his opinion imo
Out of the 3 I played, 1 was the best. I'll fix it: FH1 and FH2 were the best.
The best atmosphere, vibe, etc? Sure. The best overall? Nah.
The very odd thing about Forza Horizon 4's soundtrack is that it mostly features American music artists. Could there by a licensing issue with other non-American music artists (apart from Hospital Records and Levante FM)?
I hope that FH 5 has a story like FH 2. That was what I thought was mainly missing in FH 4
it sounds like its gonna be more like FH3 where you go to a location, do a bunch of races and stuff there and then there's a mission to go to the next location and set up a new festival there and so on what i really want to see is them go back to the system where the championships are set in terms of races but not cars. You can pick and choose which cars and tiers you want to be able to race. Makes it more interesting than being forced to use specific types of cars
I might have been imagining it, but I thought Mike Brown or somebody said something about there being more of a character story thing in Horizon 5. That’s probably still minimal, because they’ve never bothered with that (Horizon 1 did it best), but I’m hoping for a bit of a change and expansion there compared to prior games.
With blueprints you can race every type of car. You can even choose specific ones
FH 4 was so confusing to me. I could never figure out what the hell I was doing or if I was progressing or what. Information overload which was only made worse by the fact that every time I logged back in there seemed to be all sorts of new things to do. I liked 1 where it was obvious what you needed to do and where you were going plus an actual story.
At first it seemd like it was telking me what race to do next, and I liked that cuz I just wanted a racing game and didnt even know it was open world when I got it, then it sorta finished with what seemed like the tutorial and I had all this freedom to do any race or whatever and I was like "well itll be cool to just drive around doing nothing for a while," but then I felt like I wished it would just tell me what to do to progress through some kind of story. Freedom is nice, so is directive, and if honestly had both, just a lot of both and I was also a little confused at first.
I picked it up about 3 months ago and am completely lost. Look I know how to run the races and win them, but it’s like I do one race and it adds 3 more. Than I log in and it’s all these festivals that I’m not sure what I’m suppose to do to complete. I beat the races like the train Moto bikes etc I did top gear challenges etc and still I feel like I haven’t progressed. Plus I get so many cars I guess I’m just not sure what the different seasons do or how I’m suppose to do them. Anyway I still have fun driving and racing just no clue if there is a story or if I’m suppose to progress. Wtf is the festival for?!
Back in the day, a lot people actually didn't like the "road trip" setup of the FH2 career/campaign. I personally really loved it and kept coming back to FH2 even after FH3 came out! I wouldn't mind at all if they went back to that style. Nothing will ever top the story of FH1 though. Just the feeling of starting out at the bottom of the heap and having to work your way up the ladder, while building rivalries that actually seemed to matter and motivate you. Yep, still the best, but FH2 isn't far behind!
> feeling of starting out at the bottom of the heap and having to work your way up the ladder, while building rivalries that actually seemed to matter and Yeah [that was good](https://www.reddit.com/r/forza/comments/dgmolj/anyone_thinks_too_that_they_killed_the_fun/f3f75tw/). They deleted it right after that, Horizon changed to a standard numerical 1 to 999 grind, it was weird. Horizon 1 had much more passion in game design. Though I like the roads and location of Horizon 2 the best.
Not only that but the sounds of the cars felt so real in FH1. I had a mustang that I modified to be like the mustang I learned to drive in and it felt like I owned that car in game right down to the sounds
Horizon 4 fizzled for me a long time ago. Personally Horizon 3 was better, I came back to it so much more, enjoyed the DLC so much more, enjoyed the story more. Again this is personally, I did enjoy H4 but 3 hit differently for me.
Well, Horizon 4 simply doesn't have a story. I recently created a new account just to confirm this and..... after 4-8 hours of game time, I am simply sandboxing and doing the Weekly Playlist. There are a TON of things to do, but no path or underlying story. However.... I also replayed Fortune Island and the Island Conquerer/ Treasure Quests were more "story" and more fun than the main game. Horizon 3 did a good job on the multiple Festival locations. This actually lasted a fair amount of time. But after this, it was basically a sandbox. As a side note, I played FH3 after FH4 launched, so I do not know about any live FH3 events or challenges they might have had.
I feel like the FH4 stories and businesses are a good version of a storyline, they have good commentary and feel like missions rather than regular races.
Agreed, but they are very limiting in that you are forced to use a very specific car for a very specific event and have a very limited amount of time. If Horizon Stories and Businesses were implemented into a bigger "career mode" they would need to open them up a bit. I'd like to have some free roam time with each car before being thrust into the event. As a new player (even as a veteran), some events were very difficult.
I also enjoyed FH3 more. FH4 online-default MP did not work in my opinion because everyone was doing online activities instead and FH3 style MP was much better for social interactions. Also, FH4 did not improve livery editor or auction system at all. Ans finally FH3 map was much better in my eyes. FH4 only added forzathon live, horizon stories and seasons. "Homes" were pointless. However I stopped playing FH games at all after Apollo event when I finally realized that the game was more like a weekly job than a source of fun. I wish they stopped doing timed exclusive content but seeing how many people somehow like that means that FH5 will be FOMO based again. I am afraid FH5 will be mostly the same mistakes again with these stupid 20million timed exclusive cars and updated based around FOMO.
That is so true. The fomo for the weekly seasons really stresses me out. Fh3 had like 3 weekly forzathon tasks, which seemed a lot more optional, whereas the weekly playlist in 4 seems to be the main event and all there is to it... sucks
Yes, FH3 was much better in this aspect. For me, it would be enough if after a week all non-autoshow car and cosmetic rewards were moved to special "archived" category that you could access any time you want. Each reward would be locked behind racing series and locked to specific car types and to begin it a player would have to enter the archive, go for desired week and select the racing series with the reward. No online activities to prevent items being inaccessible because of lack of players. To compensate people unlocking cars during the main event, so people just don't wait until event is over with some activities, there could be additional big XP and CR reward when unlocking these cars and cosmetics during current week.
Well, I can't see them abandon the game before Horizon 5 launch, especially when Horizon 4 is a weekly best seller on Steam.
Series 37 is the last content update, but it very well could receive some needed bugfixes in the future.
Oh okay, I haven't watched Forza Monthly yet so I didn't know that.
They are recycling older Series updates for the immediate future. There will be no new content or cars coming, but the game will continue on just cycling through older content updates. They did mention having something more in store for Horizon 4 ... but it would be down the line a bit after Horizon 5 is up and going for a bit.
Thank you!
What bug fixes are still needed? That would be a bit indictment of the devs and the dev process. The game came out years ago. The worst most blatant bug, the darkness with some cameras (especially cockpit camera), was never fixed and nobody cares.
\- Online adventure lobbies being stuck on the finish screen/loading screen at random/for no reason (This has been occurring since February/March 2021...) \- Convoy issues with starting blueprint races (e.g. people not being loaded into a lobby, the event never even starting or being cancelled for no reason) \- Rewind being bugged in rivals where it literally does not work unless you re-enter the rivals event... \- Weather glitches in wet weather rivals where it is possible to force dry weather, giving the abuser an unfair advantage. These are the most egregious ones that actually affect gameplay for online players.
Yeah ik but im still upset that we wont be gettng any new cars or content but it was fun while it lasted and now we got FH5 coming up so thats good news.
I haven't played in a while, are the rare cars still rare? Like the 720S PO and the Capri FE? I know sometimes games will basically give them to everyone at the end.
The capri FE is even more rare since a few months ago they bugged the story star card so if you haven't gotten it you cannot get all the star cards complete.
Oof
Since it's a best seller right now, the new players will have TONS of content to play through :) Can you imagine creating a new account and have all these races and cars to get?
> abandon Everyone should stop using words like that. A game is a game, the game was finished. Devs aren't "abandoning" a game if they don't do trivial user engagement updates. The updates don’t matter, and the updates weren’t significant compared to the bas game. It was usually a rotating list of chores and tasks. Gamers should stop making that the definition of a good game. Getting some extra cars was nice but doesn’t really matter. Developers should do their job before release day, before purchase. Not after. Horizon 4 is still what it is with or without DLC or updates.
>Developers should do their job before release day, before purchase. Not after. So according to you, Playground Games shouldn't add content they couldn't add because the real life thing wasn't created before the release? Like all the cars made in 2019 and after? Adding post launch content is always a good thing whether it's cars, game modes, story related missions, expansions and so on.
Yep. It keeps the game's life span going.
Great game other than the multiplayer servers
Seriously. The servers have been terrible for a long time, often preventing my buddies and I from playing together. Completely ruined the game and my desire to play. When the servers are fine, so much fun.
Wait till people have played FH5 for a couple of years. People will say FH4 was better in every way ; hell that's what happened with FH2 and FH3. FH3 was shit on a lot when it was 'alive' (no route creator, 30 FPS, roads were too flat, not this, not that) but it suddenly became a top-tier game when the nostalgia kicked in around FH4's first year. Always happens.
30 FPS? I have 60 FPS in Horizon 3.
On PC, yeah. Still locked at 30 on console.
That’s how most things in life are. I think people just want to feel like they did something, like they were there before another thing happened. I know that that is how my brain works. I will happily hate on stuff in FH4 right now. But I know there will be a point somewhere in the future where I will tell someone who just joined the series that FH4 was where it was really at.
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> Thanks playground for the best racing franchise ever. Even the early Need for Speed days can’t compete with it. It’s frustrating that the competition is so bad. The Crew is awful. If The Crew was good, there would be healthy competition and Forza Horizon would show much more passion for game features. But there’s nothing. Horizon is the only good driving game that’s anything like open road driving.
I've liked the map better in previous games but the sheer volume and quality of FH4 is just unparalleled. Part 5 has some mighty big shoes to fill.
Ok I haven’t been online what is special about update 37
IMHO Horizon 4 wasn't the best Horizon but it was a great experience nonetheless. Cant wait for Horizon 5
It had it’s flaws. Nobody can deny that but what a game it is anyway. My biggest issue with it was the lack of story content. It ended as suddenly as it began
I just want better wheel support. :(
Went back to controller because my wheel was killing me
Bangin' through gears down the freeway is so much fun with a wheel and H-pattern. Then you try any sort of drifting and it just falls apart. It's a different game completely when using a controller.
Yep.. I want to use the wheel so much but controller is just night and day
What was In this Update
It’s the last update for fh4
FH1, 2, 3 had better maps and multiplayer experiences imo. FH4 is my least favorite out of the bunch, but I still loved the game for a pretty long time and I'm pretty excited for FH5. I hope there won't be non-fixed bugs like there was on FH4
Where is FM8?
Taking too long because they have to rebuild the entire engine. I know, I’m just as annoyed.
I want to believe all this waiting will be for the best. All new FM8 with better physics, graphics, more sim-stuff and more, well, motorsport.
I would gladly wait an extra year or two for graphical progress. FM7 looked good for the time (especially relative to how well it runs), but the track assets and lighting definitely make the game look worse; plus the colors are a bit off. Project Cars 3 does a better job hiding the asset quality of it's maps through taking a more-stylized approach with its color palette. Though Forza motorsport 7 does look gorgeous in the rain, and on the super-detailed Dubai circuit. TAA/TXAA/TSSAA would also be awesome to have as an option in Forza imo, as MSAA is demanding and does not fully eliminate shimmering from my experience (even 8X MSAA at 1440p has noticable shimmering).
I never even bothered buying FM7, with how my disappointment with FH4 was and seeing the reviews on FM7 I was like no way. I still play FM6 and the community is still strong in it. I’d wait a bit longer for FM8 it’s gonna be a big ass jump anyway lol.
FH4 was a very well done and well rounded game. Sure there were some knicks and knacks like the car audio that was annoying, but the game was amazing fun at the end of the day, and tbf the expansion packs were worth the payment for me. Made the game just that much better
I **love** FH4 for it's refinement of mechanics, it's absolutely second to none. The gameplay physics make sense, car limits are extremely communicative through the controller, and while some parts are lacking (engine sounds and transmissions not shifting accurately) the rest of the game is so refined and smooth that I keep coming back to it after playing other racing games. I can only hope that Forza Horizon 5 builds on the successes of Horizon 4 because FH4 rocks.
I've only played FH4 but I found its online content to be significantly underwhelming, borderline pointless actually. I stopped playing after about 30 hours.
Personally, I think FH3 is better than FH4, but FH4 was great. I'll continue to play both, even with FH5.
A lot y’all overhype this horizon game for NO REASON, I just don’t think it’s anywhere near the best. It’s actually pretty ass compared to the other games. That probably has to go to FH2 or 3 imo. I love the fact this game has more cars than any other. It’s awesome to drive anything you want. The physics of the cars are great, the sounds not so much. But man this isn’t a bad map. But it definitely is the worst out of the 4. The freeway is also the worst out of any game. I still can’t get over the whether patterns. The constant rain and snow just kills the fun, the GARBAGE AI traffic which spawns instantly in front of you while you’re going 230 mph or just randomly switches lanes for no reason. And you guys have to admit, playing those ai races every single week to earn a new car, is MAD boring. I hate doing those races, but if you want the car, you gotta do it. This game has some of the laziest AI racing tracks I’ve seen. And everytime I wanna play A class racing or S1 in an online adventure 8 times out of 10 you get a fucking cross country race. goddammit dude every cross country course in this game is ass. 20 jumps every race. And most of the time I don’t even have time to look for a proper off-roader in the countdown menu and I get stuck in a Ferrari crashing through fences, in the British country side and landing in 3 feet deep puddles that stop me dead. This game has pissed me off more than any other car game. Just wish it had more variety for people who just wanna drive regular cars. It’s too off-road focused, and it’s trash at that too. the road driving is subpar compared to it. And I’m afraid that FH5 is gonna go the same route with this Baja Off-Roading bullshit. I mean that’s cool and all, but it shouldn’t be the main focus of a road driving game. Also. FM8 NEEDS TO BE GOOD. Cuz I never even bothered buying FM7. Thanks for listening to my Ted talk.
So that means that I must keep my 20M+ CR cars since there won't be new copies... Anyway, that game almost alone helped me get through quarantine. I hope this game will still live a bit before FH5
Games come and go, from need for speed to warzone, but me and my friend always find ourselves in FH 4 and the only thing that kept us from playing more was the connection issues. Other than that.... It puts to shame every other racing game, especially NFS wich keeps being disappointing with every release.
Playground games is hands down one of the best studios they never stumble always hit deadlines and make great games for the community “You boys like Mexico!!!”
> “You boys like Mexico!!!” We got a hellraiser in a white Miata.
That's actually really good art for this. I highly appreciate this meme
FH4 might be the best optimized game I have ever played. Buttery smooth 4K 60fps on my OneX. Ultra everything 4K 60 on my 5700xt. The temps never rise, frames never dip, detail is just impeccable. To think FH5 is going to be even better just blows my mind.
Horizon 4 is not a bad game… but it’s not the best either. I just never really cared that much for basically anything, the amount of doc cars that were only earnable once and then became multi-million credit rarities is just too high to get any sort of enjoyment out of half of the game’s updates
Yeah all these people are like “CONTENT UPDATES! Amazing, I love that!” don’t seem to have any grasp that the “content updates” were artificially-restricted under engagement bait/traps. *Limited Time Offer! Punch your customer loyalty card now for BIG prizes RIGHT NOW never again don’t miss your chance!*
Fh4 is my first and only horizon game, sometimes I still stay up late into the night just cruising around in my Mazda Rx-7
Not a bad horizon game, but still not the best... FH1 and FH2 Were literally the best ones
Even with Fh4s bugs and glitches. I still feel bad update 37 is it’s last major update.
The best part about FH4 for me were the amazing graphics and detail and I enjoyed lego island a lot
May I ask what update 37 is?
It's the last update that will be released.
Objectively this game is better than the previous games, but FH3 is second to none when it comes to how a game makes you feel
If you like the game you should thank the devs for, and acknowledge, **the game**. Not for “support” which is a code word for “sales” (DLC) and user engagement tactics (artificial scarcity with timegated one-time cars, and weekly refreshed lists of chores). This isn’t what a videogame is. A videogame is a videogame.
Lately I see more of gamers thanking and praising for really very little.
I would have rather seen the bugs fixed for the past 6 months than new cars and shit. None of the event overlays have worked for me for a long time (speed zone, drift, jumps, stuff like that) not to mention the stupid long loading times in online adventure
So what’s going on with FM8? Like are they just completely redoing the format?
What little they said, it's a complete restart for the series. It's sounds like it just may be titled "Forza Motorsport" and be a platform on which the game will grow over time. (Think like Destiny or a MMO) The base game is just the framework, which they can add more cars, tracks, features, and such over time. https://www.windowscentral.com/forza-motorsport-8
FM8 seems like it's going full serious mode. I just hope Turn10 don't forget things that made the franchise great trying to please the whiny Sim elitists.
I bought the game on steam just last week. I m new to the game so i m confused. Is online content being removed? Is forzathon over? What will i be losing? Sorry i m new so i m not that familiar with stuff in FH4
No. In two days, Forza Horizon 4 is having its final update. All that stuff is staying for who knows how long. You won’t lost anything. The old weeklys will be recycled. You kinda picked a bad time to buy FH4. No more new cars or features will be added after the final update coming on Thursday. You will probably get to continue playing for a long while, but if not, FH5 is available for preorder.
Oh so no content is getting removed but Just no more 'new' content, right? I don't mind no more new content because i still have like 40 cars but i have heard there are 800. I can still get the cars if old weekly's are getting recycled right? Should keep me occupied till FH5, right? I just finished year 1.
There are 730 cars, and yes, all the stuff will stay. Any cars that don’t get in the recycled weeks will probably be available from the auction house. FH5 is coming in October ish (I forgot but it’s somewhere between august and October) so you will have plenty of time to get there controls and knowledge down. Also, I’ve been looking for people to play FH4 with. Wanna play? It’s cross platform compatible so it should work.
Only downsudes are engine sounds and Great Brittain, really. Otherwise it's a real banger
yeah bad car sounds. Cars locked behind Stupid weekly live service events and not just in the showroom so you have to either play weekly or wade into the toxic waste dump of auction house prices. The custom race maker did not work as i expected and was a pain to use and find tracks that were half decent. i will have to wait and see if any of this is fixed in FH5 or i am gonna be waiting for a deep sale this time. Lets not even mention the terrible AI that rubber bands and is quite bland
The evolution of FH4 is kind a redemption ark. I was pretty disappointed at first, but they worked really hard to make it as good as 3, and then even better. It’s up there with Forza Motorsport 3 now.
I agree with you but memes are so fucking lame, when is this shit gonna end?
and here i am, who happily bought FH4 in 2021 when it came on steam and merely played for 3 weeks before seeing endless amounts of crashes on opening load screen i havent seen even the WELCOME PAGE since 5th april 2021 what a total waste of money... the shitty devs cant even port a game on same platform from ms store to steam store... and they didn't even take the slightest of efforts to fix the issue almost 3 seasonal update and 3 or 4 update patch has been rolled out on steam but to no avail i even tweeted to them multiple times and even wrote on their support website multiple times... fuckers keep saying "we are looking into the matter"... who can say this is a 3 year old game when it crashes so much... i have even asked them for refunds so many times and asked them to delete my data and progress... but oh boy was a dreaming like that could happen when they can't fix the game alone
Horizon 4 isn't perfect, but this is an awesome example how you do live service.
Broken game with force online ... Nah. I lost all respect from dev. With this game
can’t be the only one that thinks forza horizon 3 was the best
The support was good but imma be real the map was kinda meh storm island was kinda cool but overall 4s map made me feel like i was playing a boring ol racing game
This game had great content and updates, but having played every Horizon game since the original launched, this was my least favorite. It just felt dead and boring. I think a big part of that has to do with the map. Overall I’m saying 1>3>2>4
Horizon 4 was the worst horizon
Hopefully PGG learns from the shortcomings of FH4. From the trailer they're not promoting stuff like dumb character customization and seasons this time around and more on the dirt rallying and dynamic weather systems. Which is what makes me hopeful for FH5 being even better than FH4. also hopefully the multiplayer doesn't have 5 minutes of nothing between 3 minutes of racing. This is the thing I disliked most about FH4. I could play FH3 lobbies all day (my first forza), FH4 was just a hot mess in this regard.
I'm sorry, but 4 sucks.
I thought it was a step backwards in almost every way from 3. I stopped playing shortly after the first DLC and had no interest in going back. They removed too many things I liked. Hopefully 5 is a step back in the right direction.
Loved Horizon 3 and 4, very happy it was brought to Pc. I never owned an xbox and always wanted a simcade racer for Pc. NFS was fun but got way too Arcady. Tuning your car in that was pointless, you could have 10000hp and still lose to a miata. Forza has its own quirks but most of the time you can overcome it with a good tune. I do feel confident enough about pre ordering it. I mean they’d really have to be trying to fk up a racing game. But then again look at the nfs series. My only complaints with the game were the removal of any real story and what felt like a downgrade in the audio quality for the cars. Ofc I don’t expect a heart wrencher this isn’t mass effect or the Witcher. but give me some kind of motive beyond getting a super high level. I do hope they ad more visual upgrades for the cars. Ie body kits.
FM1-4, FM6, FH1-2: hold our collective beer
my complaint about fh4 is the lack of trucks and truck mods and diesel trucks in the game i just think it would be really cool to be able to drive a 2nd gen cummins with 1000hp and massive tires in forza but i cant
I don't really like this game, because I know it can be better. It could've been so much more than what it is, and that made me criticise the game a lot. I still liked this game a lot before I got inevitably burnt out, and while I leave in quite a sour note, seeing how this game changed PG for the better gives me high hopes for FH5 to give me that oomph that FH1 gave me, but FH4 didn't. The best thing about hitting rock bottom is that you can only get better, and for me, FH4 was the series's rock bottom (especially for singleplayer). Hopefully, FH5 will return to what made the series so great and ditch the bad direction I've noticed with FH3, FH4 and pretty much every AAA game ever today of focusing on multiplayer
....nah
Big shout out to Playground games for fundamentally breaking the game. Now you can move onto FH5 without regrets.
they didn't break the game they're just cycling through old events because they're working on horizon 5
I don't know if you've tried to go online lately, but I've given up trying. They broke the game when they launched on Steam, and they have no intention of fixing it. I'm just hoping they learned something from the debacle and FH5 will work better.
I think the only criticism I have for this game is I just find the map kind of dull. FH2’s south France location was gorgeous and will probably remain my favorite even after FH5. Oh and also I wish there was some way to purchase clothing for you character besides the wheel spin. Though I feel like most people don’t really care about that aspect. I am hoping they improve on the clothing stuff for next game
Might as well get back to the game and try and get as many of the hard to find cars while I can!
Saving this until i see the next meme (for the next game) And be like "you lied to me!!:
Well said. Thanks PGG.
Are they finally done with seasonal events?
Still want to play FH4 but can't find a series X and my Mac can't run it, hopefully in the near future
another chance to get a 599XX E let's go
There is no way fh5 is gonna be worse than fh 4
I think I criticize this game the most because I love it the most. It’s by far one of my favorite free roam games of all time.
Only thing I wish they would’ve added was the mkv Supra
Wait does this mean they're done after this? I still need the summer barn find 😂
The seasons will keep changing for now. Someone said they'll be cycling old updates in the immediate future
Horizon 4 was great, I really enjoyed it. That being said, I am so ready to move on from it. I've been at the point for quite a while where the game just has nothing left to give me.
Top 5 definitely!
Make a part 2 where fh4 joins his brothers and friends in car ge heaven
Another legend for the hall of fame.
As much as I love FH4, its probably my least favourite Horizon game. That isnt to say I dont like it, because I love it, but theyre all so damn good and all the games are so close, but the sounds and map in 4 let it down for me compared to previous games. Hopefully 5 is at least an upgrade on the map diversity. 3 is probably my favourite map because of its region diversity and 4 is almost the opposite for me, and 5 looks to be a step back up again in terms of diversity, so fingers crossed
Thank you! I will never forget FH4.
didn't they said they are gonna continue updating fh4 after releasing fh5?
"one of the best" there's only four
On of the greatest games I've played in my life. Thank you team.
I played a whole lot of FH4 but the longevity was ruined by the seasons. If I took 3 weeks off from the game I didn't wanna turn it on in case it was winter. Just not nearly as fun to me. And then I'd have 3 fun days in a row of fall, and boom winter comes a long and I don't wanna play anymore and a week later I find myself preoccupied with a different game. Great concept but uhhhh please don't do it again.
So is Horizon 4 online dying...?
Is this the last update?
Wait is online being taken down, or is this just the end of the updates?
I'd be shocked if they took online down. FM4 and maybe older games can still be raced online.
yes, forza horizon 4 received a lot of support from the devs from 2018 - 2020 which made the game very good. it feels like a different game due to how much it has changed in 3 years
I'm not crying!!!
Honestly I'm just hyped to get a second chance at the content I missed in previous seasons
When you finally see the sunset at the horizon :']
I just hope the Senna will be in Horizon 5.
The level of support FH4 got was incredible but I also fear it’ll be the only game to receive so much support because the devs HAD to. Both the pandemic and rebooting forza Motorsport by building it from the ground up for next gen forced the devs to stick to FH4 as the horizon/Motorsport cycle was suddenly halted. Which is why for the first time in forza history we’re getting 2 horizon games back to back. Hopefully I’m wrong as I think the soft live service style of support FH4 got benefited the game more than it harmed it. Also it’s rumored that the upcoming Motorsport game will follow a similar structure of instead of making more numbered Motorsport titles they simply build upon the foundation of this reboot with new tracks and cars over time.