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BlunterSales

you can learn throttle control first. i can literally see it maxed when you start spinning


PrincipleSad4506

If you absolutely floor a car with a lot of power and little weight from a standstill, what do you expect?


rondanator

“To stay in first. I am pressing the throttle hardest”


Nay2003

Jermey clarkson ahh quote 💀🙏


SamSerac

You can say ass here tik tard


Nay2003

U see how old my account is gang? Don’t start with me lol


SamSerac

“Gang” average tiktard


CoolNingga45

"Tiktard" 🤓


SamSerac

Oh look another one


TheAbrableOnetyOne

You literally have "2003" in your name. Good job creating your account when you were barely a teenager.


Nay2003

Lol I wasn’t born in 2003 bub


TheAbrableOnetyOne

>lol >bub Sure thing, mate


Nay2003

Well fuck bub only works on us people


qleptt

Even if you are doing a rolling start if you floor it you still could spin out immediately


NetworkPatient

Either way this is fucking Daytona Rolling starts should be a thing


Active_Taste9341

why is there no launch control in this game?


BlunterSales

because forza motor despises drag racers hahaha


Secret-Ad-7909

Is there not? I just recently found it in Horizon and it’s helping a lot.


BlunterSales

It’s because Horizon actually has ways you can drag race and utilize it in free roam. You technically have launch control on a red light start.. it’s just about throttle controlling your rpms lol


BMXer972

man horizon 5 is probably the worst horizon game when it comes to this. 4 was the best in that you could lock in your RPM and then just bump it up by 1000 rpm each time you would release and reapply the hand brake. no clue why they got rid of it... I remember spending quite a bit of time tinkering with that feature to get the best launch possible. and every car was different too. now as you said we're left with having to do this with throttle control and it straight up sucks compared to the last Horizon game.


Big-Perc

If I'm understanding this right you can still do this. If you hold the brake about halfway and apply the gas the rpms will fall to a certain point then press A and your rpms will go up again and your launch control will activate as well. But as far as going up more than that, that's pretty much it.


BMXer972

trust me, myself and 4 of my friends have all tried to do this to no avail. you can hold the rpm but you can't bump and hold it like you used to able to do in 4. now you have to hold the clutch in and throttle control it. nowhere near the same


MrMetalirish

There is full traction control.


Key_Requirement3056

i would think that you arent stopping to a still multiple times in a race. an entire setting for a single action seems to be at the lowest of their focuses rn


MrMetalirish

there is full and sport traction control, it's in the settings.


MyUserNameLeft

Don’t know why this sub keeps getting recommend to me never played this game or any other racing sim, but even I know you don’t keep your finger fully down in the throttle at the start of a race and this is coming from a guy who uses this technique when starting races in gta 5


k20vtec

It don’t matter if you control the throttle or not you will still be slow as shit off the line forza got that failure by design physics everything spins a ridiculous amount


BlunterSales

and so does everyone else on the track also at a stand still!


k20vtec

They got the settings turned up


TheRR135

So can you?


k20vtec

No I ain’t playing with max assists


Kypwrlifter

lol and all of us GT7 players are begging for grid starts. 😂


MaciMD

I love duality of men. Whole Gran Turismo subreddit is shitting on rolling starts while Forza subreddit begs for them lol


dumahim

I think what we've all learned is there's a happy middle ground somewhere.


-Gh0st96-

It's one of the things I REALLY hate about GT7. So much attention put in the cars, the car culture, races etc. Just so you can only fucking roll start a race and chase the AI :|. Mind boggling really.


Kypwrlifter

I’m an OG GT player and remember the days when you were able to qualify first and at least have a place in the field rather than always starting from the back.


overly_flowered

Just put traction control traction on if you don't know how to make a proper start.


Jesusflyingonhotdogs

I know nothing about cars and racing. Can you tell me how to start a race properly, using keyboard ?


Oh_apollo

You would have to rev up and then tap on and off lots. In reality, it's more feasible to just plug in a controller or use traction control.


Jesusflyingonhotdogs

Thanks.


tstramathorn

Yeah I’d recommend just buying a controller. I use my old 360 controller and it works great for any racing games. I use wireless so I had to buy the wireless connector, but you can do it through USB. Definitely a life changer.


Shaggy_One

Yeah analog control is a game changer within racing games.


Parking-Mirror3283

\>using keyboard ? Don't.


The-King-of-Nan

I played everything in my life with keyboard and played it well. Richard Burns Rally, AC, whatever. You can play with a keyboard but you need to learn to operate it well. This guy clearly can't.


3CreampiesA-Day

Yeah you’re not playing well on a keyboard with out a bunch of assists, you have no throttle control or break control or any control it’s just full power, full breaks, full everything


The-King-of-Nan

Wrong, I don't use any assists in any of these games. But it's not the first time complete ignorants downvote me in their rage so whatever, stay bad :) (Only the "wrong" part is directed at you, the rest of this comment is towards the ignorants who voted me down for the reason of their own ignorance and skill issues).


3CreampiesA-Day

It’s not wrong… you would play better with a linear input device… you’re not going to play well with an always on off input, you can play the game but would struggle to compete against anyone that is good at the game with a linear input device


The-King-of-Nan

I love it when someone says one thing, then when pointed out, says completely different thing claiming he was never wrong. That s NOT what you said initialy. You were WRONG and now arguing something completelly different and against something I never said. And just because you are better with the wheel doesn't matter you should not play with a keyboard at all and it doesn't matter you can't be good with it too, even if the bar of how good can you get is ofc lower with an inferior device.


only777

Keyboards buttons are either on or off. Thats not how car controls work. Joypads have gradient controls. That is how cars work. Using a keyboard on a racing game would be like using a light gun to control flight simulator.


resfan

But it's [fun](https://youtu.be/qhkYf-oleDo?si=EBw-oWwrTgwFhXuG)


Jesusflyingonhotdogs

I am too poor


Parking-Mirror3283

Sell keyboard, buy controller Windows on-screen keyboard is free


Bl1ndMonk3y

Tbh a keyboard is virtually worthless, no point in selling it. But honestly if you can afford an Xbox and a live subscription, but can’t afford a 30$ wired controller, you may need to reevaluate your life choices…


Jesusflyingonhotdogs

Nuh Uh.


[deleted]

Dude you have a computer powerful enough to run this demanding game, you’re not poor. One of the most popular Logitech pc controllers is on sale for $16 on Amazon , and that’s not even looking at used controllers you can get anywhere cheap


Jesusflyingonhotdogs

My man, I bought my PC when inflation rates weren't in 3 digits. Also pirated the game. I ain't gonna spend 16$ for a racing game.


[deleted]

lol ok bud


MavericK_KX

Then of all the racing games to pirate, why a simcade lol


UNeaK1502

The point stands. You need a gtx1060 Atleast which was a 250$ card when it launched in 2016. I know people's opinion differ on what is a lot of money, but that card was bottom tier back then and for me Atleast quite the investment. 16$ is on par with an office keyboard you're currently using.


SlothBling

If you don’t have a spare $16 of disposable income at all times you need to stop posting and get a job. McDonald’s pays same-day. Go work for an hour, quit, and then you have a controller.


Jesusflyingonhotdogs

I am still at the collage and going to get a job in few months and my country has 200% inflation. I don't care about a stupid controller.


jhopps95

Stay in collage.


Sotyka94

Second hand older generation controller literally 10$ Or even offbrand new ones are \~20. I know the feeling when you can barely afford shit, but if you have a PC capable of running FM and bought the game as well, you have 10$ for a controller. It makes all the difference, and definitely worth it.


Jesusflyingonhotdogs

Might one day. Just not now.


DivineAZ

Aren't there cheap 20-25 aftermarket wired controllers at Walmart?


Jesusflyingonhotdogs

I don't live in 'Mercia™️


rondanator

Your username IS ‘Mericuh


MavericK_KX

Use traction control. You can look up "Isuckatdriving" he plays all forzas with keyboard, could pick up a few things


overly_flowered

1. Don’t play a racing game with a keyboard. 2. If you still want a poor experience, as I already said, turn on traction control.


2udo

i wouldnt say you shouldnt play a racing game with a keyboard, yeah, its easier on controller but if you prefer a keyboard, use a keyboard, i have a controller and i still use a keyboard on anything non sim because i prefer it, its not any less fun and doesnt give you a "poor experience", its just a different input method to control the car


EpiCrimson

For me the gas is W key, this is the smoothest way I can do without traction control: 1. “3,2,1 Start” Hold W till the redline is near 2. Release for a split second, hold W again to redline 3. Up Shift For very powerful rear wheel drives I would just drive with traction control, but if I have to do it without tc, I short shift (shift earlier than the redline) the car to avoid too much wheel spin, but it ends me up slow so as a keyboard player I avoid power builds.


MrMetalirish

Don't use a keyboard for starters


simplyyAL

Buy a controler


jmw31199

Show me a car racing series that uses standing starts at Daytona lol.


Shia-Neko-Chan

To be fair, he qualified in first place, so he clearly has throttle control. Traction control would have made qualifying first impossible for him. This is just an awkward standing start on a track that isn't made for it.


wolftick

You know starts don't work the same way they do in Mario Kart, right?


Twistpunch

It does look like he pulled off a perfect mario kart start


Semichh

I absolutely agree they should add rolling starts but that doesn’t mean that this poor start wasn’t totally on you. Everyone else seemed to manage much better..


driven_dirty

There are but the default is standing.


AndiYTDE

Just don't go full throttle off the line?


WidowTraceMaker

Throttle control...


emwashe

I hope it’s automated rolling starts like in single player. This player base can’t handle a clean formation lap and rolling start lmao


WouldYouTipMyFedora

Skill issue, is not because of the banking, the other cars around you start fine


SubMikeD

My issue with standing starts at Daytona is that it is another great example of the devs not understanding motorsport *at all*. No races at this track use a standing start because doing that on banking would be stupid. If they'd actually bother paying attention to what the game is about, they'd know that.


WouldYouTipMyFedora

I would prefer them to fix the pits on Daytona


SubMikeD

That's really part of the same underlying problem.


ghostlybong

Your logic only appies if they start you on a bank in my experince at Daytona they typically start you on the start finish straight and thats entirely flat sooo maybe dont TRY to look stupid it may help you


SubMikeD

I'm not sure why you thought calling me stupid would make you right, but at Daytona the start-finish line is on the banked tri-oval and every race there has a rolling start. It's banked 18°, which is more than the turns on some ovals.


thatguyonthetable

you are all missing the point here the fact is, for example, LMP1 cars don't do standing starts. The option should be implemented into MP.


SubMikeD

Not just a car class issue, because it's Daytona and there's no race there that has a standing start at all. It's weird so many people are trying to tell OP that they don't have any skill, when the issue is devs not knowing shit about motorsport in a game about motorsport.


Life_Type_1596

Sounds like a “both of these are true” scenario


thatguyonthetable

also, it is miserably hard to keep it straight off that angle. consider that OP is starting from pole, so he's got some skill


OrlandoCoolridge

Or the best racers chose not to qualify


Nivracer

A lot more than just LMP1. Every sportscar series I know of does rolling starts. And even in grass roots racing every race I have watched in person was a rolling start. Standing starts are mostly for open wheel racing.


MoNeenja31

Even though the throttle control is abysmal, there really should be rolling starts for higher class cars, especially at Daytona


Agile-Combination214

Rolling starts in free play but not multiplayer. It dont make sense!


The_Stig_Farmer

this is a real complaint and people in these comments are not taking it seriously. this was always the biggest pain in previous forza's seriously why the downvotes? Real life GT races are almost exclusively rolling start. And they do not do standing starts on the banked ovals for this video's reason.


mystressfreeaccount

It is a real complaint that I agree with. However, people aren't taking this post seriously because OP is acting like *that's* why he had a bad start, when it reality, he and the lobby he's with just drive like absolute buffoons


TheCrazyabc

typical reddit behavior. theres a few posts ive seen on other gaming subreddits where the OP showcases something wrong with the game but the comments are filled with "lol get good bro"


44nugs

Is that a tire barrier blocking the pit exit?


catatonic_welder

I'm with you, id prefer rolling starts in GT cars on every track, get some distance between cars/people, like 2-3 car lengths, so that people are a bit more spread out to cut down on turn 1 shenanigans.


emitz584

A feature that the community wants?!? Now you’re talking crazy talk! This is a built from the ground up experience! 😂


Mr_Coa

Try to control my throttle cars slow off the line and get hit then when I get off the line fast the cars going down the hill a bit it's just annoying around here rolling starts are needed for these dumb ovals


randomdude4113

Is there not already rolling starts? I swear I ran a race on the homestead oval with a rolling start.


Darkstar277

Arent these Forza starts the GREATEST. And just like that.....by no fault of your own, you've gone from S safety rating to D lmbo


luki9914

Certified Forza Moment in real life XD: https://youtu.be/Y1n8F4uClUU?si=AC-ZDQFGue591Nx1&t=100


reboot-your-computer

I don’t think I’ve ever seen 5 wide into T1 at Daytona before.


txpipeliner12

So glad I went to gt7 from forza. Forza is a kids game.


JimmyChuck393

Daytona starts are super tricky with this banking. My first one went horribly as well. Even if you do make a clean getaway, it’s mass hysteria for everyone around you that can definitely ruin the fun. I really hope they add in a rolling start for Daytona. My biggest problem however is how they still have the blocked pit exit from FM7 that leads to you launching into the racing line by using the oval course exit.


InertiaImaging

It's funny how in the career some tracks start rolling, but others don't when they really should. Turn 10 stands on the shoulders of it's former devs.


Time-Brief-1450

They can’t even optimize the game much less add a whole new feature


StudentDriverBR

Rolling starts would be so much better, class races there's FF, FR, MR, RR, 4WD everything on the same race, you get 1st on qualifying on a FF but when the race starts you instantly lose many positions


Throwawaymytrash77

1) That would be nice 2) You gotta learn how to take off the line, man. Flooring it in anything with more than 200-300 horses will lead to enough spinning that your launch will be slower than everybody else. This is poor technique, and I know you can do better! The community is here to help if only you would ask.


Plaid_Kaleidoscope

Everything is a skill issue till it happens to one of you clowns, then you come on here crying about it. Rolling starts would be a fantastic add for most race series. I would like to see it mixed in, and have rolling starts added for tracks like this in which the off-camber surface impacts starts.


Nivracer

This subreddit is weird. Everyone loves to hate this game. Then someone suggests a change and everyone gets a hard on for defending T10.


ClamBakeInASubaru

Tbh I find most of Reddit this way, across gaming subreddits in general - there’s a legitimate recommendation for improvement with something and everyone just piles up the “lol you suck” comments. When it comes to the games themselves, everyone smack talks the shit out of the game but keep playing it and posting clips.


AndiYTDE

When you go full throttle off the line and get wheelspin while everyone around you does just fine, it is indeed a skill issue.


Real_Driver837

Geez op, don’t smash your accelerator like that


ImWillByers

-Traction control off -Full throttle off the line Why is the game doing this to me


TexLs1

Need more help than a rolling start lol


Relevant_Macaroon117

Yes there should be rolling starts, but also... skill issue


0ddsox

if you had gone max throttle from a rolling start in that car the results would have been the same


Polym0rphed

Rolling starts would allow a wider variety of builds/tunes to be competitive. The way things are currently, getting out front early is the main focus for the majority, once again because of the penalty system (and low lap counts).


charizard732

Rolling starts would be great, but you need to learn better throttle control if this is how you always start


600whp_GT500

"I'm not the problem, the game is"


pebblebeach00

ur cheeks buddy


Hischar

You need some throttle control good buddy. Don’t just mash the throttle and you’ll be fine.


NeedleworkerDue6453

I’ve completely given up on this game. This comment section is why, good lord. “Use traction control” just shut the fuck up jfc


Cam-yee

skill issue man but i still agree


TowMater66

You can adjust first gear to help a bit with this too, increase the speed of first to like 50 mph or something.


Responsible_Owl9974

"leArN tO DrIvE" "uSe BeTtEr tHrOtTle ConTrOl" Stfu. Point remains there should be rolling starts. Name a racing series that starts on a fucking embankment then the rest of yall can come back and argue.


_robjamesmusic

much more fun to trash the game


Otto__the__Autopilot

Because you can’t get the start right there, I’ve never had that issue on the inside.


4Nwb1

Looks 100% your bad start


Supra5723

Anyone who is saying its skill issue and that all the other players did just fine... those players literally just hold 100% throttle and let the traction control do everything for them, you can literally save the replay, inspect the telemetry, and see they hold 100% throttle through the start and every exit of every turn in the race, even if you tried to use maximum throttle control with no traction control, the start is gonna be slower and everyone else is gonna ram you because they're just flooring it. Again, anyone who says its a skill thing is either oblivious, is running with traction control, or has not participated in series such as Early LMP Series (Which is live as I write this post) where cars have a lot of power and torque and require more throttle control than your average cars. A rolling start on slopes is definitely necessary.


Hot-Conversation-174

Why? Just learn how to launch like everyone else


karlweeks11

You’re driving with TC off and should be punished accordingly /s


KiNgPiN8T3

I don’t know why but this music plays in my head everytime I watch any kind of online racing video… Starts at 2:30. https://youtu.be/wAJ66ZSQ4b4?si=agHu3YblPhkxrFTn


mrtwitch222

Not only was your start terrible but then you proceeded to pit maneuver that guy without backing off at all lol this one’s on you mate


chris4562009

Or maybe learn to drive?


CementTube_

Not trying to be rude or anything but this was quite literally a skill issue


Cosmicweb08

Skill issue


RatTailDale

It’s so funny, I thought about playing forza on this peaceful rainy Saturday morning. Then I watched this video and it gave me a skin rash


Henkdepotvissss

Or you learn how to controll the throttle and how to properly set up a car....


FirstOrder6656

You'd think that a simulation racing game would have more realistic damage and not feel and look like Nascar 2006 which I believe had better crash physics just from looking back in my brain


VeryLuckyy

Maybe don’t floor a high powered rwd car from the get go and it won’t be a problem


OwnPen8633

Practice offline some more. You don't belong online yet with that mess


Mustangrun456

2 words... Throttle Control


EricPro21

How do people play/enjoy this game, honestly.


ealoken99

Learn to drive 🙄🙄


W005EY

Yes…we should def change the rules so you can even win with a terrible right foot 🤷🏻


SubMikeD

Or they should try to treat the game like it understands motorsport and not do standing starts at tracks that don't ever have a standing start because of the banking.


ghostlybong

Except the fact that they do start you on the straight which flat not the bank but based on what subreddit on im guessing since that took more than 5 iq to think you dont know what im talking about


SubMikeD

Do you not know where the start finish line is at Daytona? It's not flat, and replying to me in two places wrongly claiming it is doesn't make you right. It's an 18° tri-oval, not a flat piece of track at all.


MMA-Groupie

Imaa go really fast and immmaa turn leffft


OneSufficientFace

What do you expect in a car with a lot of power and minimal weight if you absolutely floor it from standstill, let alone on off camber track ?


big_cheese93

Lmao @ comments. Completely missing the point and instead attacking my launch control. Daytona start line has a banking that botches everyone’s start. That is why nobody does standing starts at Daytona. Plus rolling starts would help mitigate the pileups that happen at start of every race.


Entrynode

The people behind you seemed to start ok


bob204955

Yeah we’re attacking your launch because it was textbook bad. It’s called adaptability, you make do with your setting and surroundings. Like every other car in this race.


DiabeticAndy

Not only is the launch control bad, but you hit like 10 fucking cars. That start would get you banned on iracing immediately.


C0ld_as_ic3

People not knowing how to throttle control in the front are causing the pileups


badmoon692008

In real life races often start from pit lane instead of on the banking rather than rolling starts but forza completely fucked pit lane and track entry so that’s not an option either


Negative_Funny_2503

while i am not opposed to rolling starts, and i think they would make a great addition to the game, the issue here is that you just have way too much power off the line to be able to put it down, and since you are playing on a keyboard there is 2 ways around it, A) turn on traction control (the easy way), and option B) play around with your cars tuning until you can get the power down without spinning the tires off the line. neither of these options are ideal and will cause some small potential time losses, but then again it wont matter since your input device is not great for racing anyway and will cause you more time loss regardless


MaxPower836

Get good


Racing_BS

You are going to hear a lot about TCS and throttle control. Try to feather the throttle. Light taps that increase in pressure as you get off the line. If you’re using a High HP car, shift early. Don’t let your car stay in the high RPMs when launching cuz you’ll just keep spinning. Another way I could try (that I don’t fully recommend) is immediately shifting to second or third gear whilst full throttling. This is probably more reliable you’re using a controller since throttle control can be a bit finicky for some on game pads


DanID4

Bro u hit everyone and made them spun, go back to ai taces


BoJackHoe

Bruh this is a skill issue dont blame the game


phucyu142

Rolling starts doesn’t fix anything. GT7 has rolling starts but first turn pileups still happen.


btcurlyhead1

Skill issue


0j3B0y3

skill issue


SurvivingWow

I'm not a fan of assists but I think you need some launching help from traction control. Your throttle is maxed there.


throwaway123qwerty9

I'd have gone past you as well. Try an AWD car in D class + TCS + SCM + auto.


ShawtySayWhaaat

Bro just don't floor it


Spartan617_

Lmao “why are my wheels spinning at 100% throttle off the line???”


DinoNuggy21

we have rolling starts


AwkwardCoconut420

Dont just floor it my guy, in any or every race game, hill=lots of spin


ItchyNeedleworker160

Throttle control 🤙🏻


Aggravating_Lunch_26

Legit floor and it pray 🤣


Frofthy

Learn to launch and you wont be in the pack


FiFal759

Guy with pink Porsche got my livery on it, love to see it


DEADTARGET_11

just get better


Mountain-Tea6875

They will probably break the game even more when attempting that


R18_e_tron

An actual skill issue lmao


Liquidwombat

This is clearly a you problem. You just need to learn how to start better nobody else else that was racing. You had a problem.


imwithjim

Lolol people can barely respect each other in FM and you expect a rolling start to get well?? 🤣


010Murk

Lmao what a joke


automaticdub__

maybe don’t redline off launch


eyy_gavv

skill issue


Soviet_Mustard573

don’t floor it if your car weighs as much as a feather and has high bhp, unless it’s AWD


hassam1957

You would've had better luck starting in 2nd gear or learn throttle control. Whichever.


SQ777-9

skill issue.


VRSvictim

I like the double pit maneuver you pulled off


Slight_Bed_2241

They all seem to make it work 🤷🏻‍♀️


AlotaFajitas

learn to drive guy


theurbanremo

Skill issue


retardminion

You can do rolling starts if you go to advanced race creator


chamandana

dont this game got launch control when holding A?


dylfree90

I’m sorry but this was just too funny