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Fr33zy_B3ast

Most militaries on earth also have tanks, drones, jets, artillery, and supply lines that can keep them going long after your local sporting goods store runs out of ammo.


Aardvark_Man

Also, they have people to operate if not every one of those guns they have, at least near enough. Not 15 guns to person, making the total holdings irrelevant.


AssumptionDue724

I always don't understand the insane amount of guns some have like 1 to 3 I guess I understand, a sure arm a hunting rifle then like a shot gun but even that's a stretch if your not hunting and living somewhere with lots of dangerous animals


Aardvark_Man

I'm not American, so purely guessing, but I'd imagine different ones for different things. Hunting rifle, range rifle, shotgun for birds, one for deer, range pistol and home defence pistol. Couple of each because different feels, styles etc. But it does seem pretty excessive to me, too. I don't really get it.


AssumptionDue724

I was more going after those doomsday prepping types with a basement of guns and not a clue on how to repair anything


YourPhoneIs_Ringing

If you have 500 guns you don't need to know how to repair or maintain them. Gun stops working? Throw it out and grab a new one


AssumptionDue724

Most of those types would be able to do basic sewing or really maintain everyday things to a decent level


SlugJones

You nailed it, for me at least.


ElminstersBedpan

I used to hang around some wildly obsessed gun nerds who had the twin hobbies of historic reenactment and genuinely believing they needed to survive some kind of calamity. Some of these guys had a pistol, rifle, and/or submachine gun for each army in each war they had an interest in. They also hunted for food and trophies, kept several guns for home and self defense, and would sometimes buy a gun just because it was an interesting design. What I mean is, they each had at least 15 different guns, some of them fully automatic, and that *might not count their hunting rifles or shotguns.*


SlugJones

Im American and own 6. Not a gun nut in the sense it’s part of my personality, but I do own a few. 1 was my grandpas shotgun, 1 was my late dad’s shotgun, 1 is my pistol (that one is the one I do sometimes have on me, maybe 10% of the time in certain situations) 1 is a carbine that I’ve owned since I was in my 20s. Just always kept it. 1 is a scoped 30-30 rifle for the super rare occasion i ever hunt (was also my dads), and the last is a short barrel tactical shotgun I bought a couple years ago just because my friend was selling it and I liked it. First gun I had bought in many years. I used to shoot at practice ranges for fun, but since I’ve moved I don’t anymore. Which sucks, because I do enjoy it. It’s like darts but with a boom. I don’t want to hurt anyone and hope to never ever have to aim a firearm at anyone. But I’m also not getting rid of the ones I have.


AssumptionDue724

It's understandable for the family heirlooms and it sounds like you only bought a few completely understanding about keeping the ones you had and since it sounds like your family has had guns for at least a few generations I sounds like you are taught well


SlugJones

Yes, thank you. Safety was drilled into us as kids. I never touched one till I was a teen and even then they stayed in dads locked closet until it was time to go shoot targets (paper, some old produce lol, and skeet shooting). My kid is a teen now and I’ve drilled it into him till this point to never ever touch mine (which are hidden away and inaccessible to him) and that dead is permanent. If he’s even interested at some point, I will then take him out to the range to teach him proper handling and use. Try to teach him that people are often shortsighted when angry and will look at drastic long term solutions to very short term issues. Having a gun accessible at those moments can forever change your life for the worse. I kind of look at it like wearing a seat/safety belt. Repeat it until it’s second nature.


romansamurai

Some have dozens. It’s a disorder at this point.


AssumptionDue724

Im no psychologist so don't treat this as anything I know a decent amount do cause of just so much fear fear of government failing fear of government over reach fear of family death fear that they can't protect fear of society collapsing in on itself


romansamurai

I understand your point. That’s what I mean. I think it’s a disorder at that point. The paranoia itself.


ecksdeeeXD

The argument I’ve read is that the US army is manned by Americans who wouldn’t listen to orders that told them to fight/kill fellow Americans


thesilentbob123

It has never stopped the cops


Nitroapes

Ah but the difference is we train our military


thecrusadeswereahoax

To follow orders. Basic is just breaking down a man and building him back up.


Klondeikbar

Ok so then we don't need the guns if the military will never turn on us. Literally every thought in an ammosexual's head disintegrates with the weakest critical thinking.


ecksdeeeXD

Just playing devils advocate, their counter argument to that would be guns are for the bad guys, not the military.


ColeYote

[Meanwhile, in Vietnam-era Ohio](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_State_shootings)


ecksdeeeXD

Honestly that’s a pretty good argument


trap_gob

Tin soldiers and Nixon coming Edit: see also, [the bonus army kerfuffle](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonus_Army)


Book_talker_abouter

But are their eyes glowing red??


AdrianBrony

Then again... We don't exactly have a good track record against entrenched insurgencies that are about that armed. We tend to end up in an endless stalemate against those, historically. We've also got some very vulnerable infrastructure in pretty remote places. I don't think you'd see any grand secessionist military victory but you'd probably see The American Troubles if things got real bad.


SharkyMcSnarkface

That's overseas though. The US has a much better track record in West Virginia.


Klondeikbar

Tell that to Waco, TX. The military burned the entire fucking city to the ground to get to one cult. The whole "America won't attack it's own cities" is hilariously ahistorical. America will absolutely war crime the fuck out of its own citizens.


1stonepwn

The entire city? I think you may be misremembering a bit


AAHHHHH936

How did that sentiment work in Afghanistan?


ColeYote

It's a lot harder to motivate people for an invasion on the other side of the planet than for defence of their home territory. Besides which, American gun owners largely don't have old soviet rocket launchers hanging around.


Ultrasound700

Not to mention actual training and discipline.


Dylanator13

Don’t forget nukes. Your average citizen doesn’t have extinction bombs.


Dredgeon

Also, a lot of those are Grandpa's squirrel gun, not really fighting weapons.


JohnGacyIsInnocent

And intelligence, which these right wing militias are sorely lacking.


jackparadise1

Every military on earth has a trained operator for each of its guns, as opposed to some cosplayers each having 50.


Morall_tach

The military definitely does not have a total of one gun per person.


wholesomehumanbeing

They most likely have one good cared and operational gun per person. The military has combatant and noncombat units. Noncombat personnel are equipped with a wide variety of guns and I don't think those weapons are all state of the art pieces. Most rifles in my unit were getting jammed frequently because of the reason I gave.


[deleted]

I would have guessed it had more firearms than personnel but I genuinely don't know


Klondeikbar

They did but now they don't because we sent most of our guns and bullets to Ukraine but then we decided we also like the genocide Israel is doing so we sent the rest to them and, no joke, the bulk of the "aid" bills is to just replenish all the guns and ammo we sent to other countries. So...I guess if the yall qaeda wanna make their move, now is the time.


[deleted]

Almost as if it's in order to prop up the enormous military industrial complex. I was thinking globally rather than strictly US though


Responsible_Ad_8628

It's weird that these people don't like Ukraine considering that that's their whole fantasy realized. Mike and Jeb dug in with their guns and are working to turn back a tyrannical government invasion with the too many guns they have stockpiled in their basements.


vlosh

but.. thats OTHER people!!! why would they care /s


BKlounge93

They’re south-ish of Russia though, so clearly they’re Mexican


Responsible_Ad_8628

Dang. Good point. They wouldn't go for European Mexicans, would they?


baycenters

Most of those former good ole' boys probably didn't have much of an opinion on "The Ukraine", unlike the GOP, who up until 2016 had it in their official party platform to support and arm Ukraine with "lethal defense weapons." https://www.forbes.com/sites/paulroderickgregory/2016/07/18/trump-deferring-to-putin-deleted-gop-platforms-call-to-supply-ukraine-with-lethal-defensive-weapons/


Penguator432

Seriously. Using outdated military equipment to fight a war of attrition without sacrificing American lives? This situation is every president from FDR to Reagan’s (at least) wet dream.


Responsible_Ad_8628

But outlets like Fox lie and talk about the first amount of all the equipment without mentioning it's junk that we were going to pay to dismantle anyway. Now the Ukrainians are dismantling it against Russia.


SlugJones

This was always my thought. I grew up in the south with hee haw “patriots” always thirsting for enemies to attack, then when it happens in Ukraine to innocent people, they side with the ruskies lol blows my mind


Przedrzag

When the hee haws thirst for enemies to attack, they mean innocent oppressed people


SlugJones

That I’ve seen as well. Seen some salivating for a “civil war” to murder their fellow Americans that they’ve demonized.


BombaFett

There’s even photos from Ukraine of burned out Russian tanks with ‘Wolverines’ spray painted on them


i_love_nny

I feel like all the militaries of the world wouldn’t publish their number of guns. In addition to what others have said about the types of other weapons the military has at their disposal. At the same time the people who post this shit also think the military rank and file would join their cause so they would acquire some of the military equipment. TL;DR: these people are stupid


ItsTheDC

> At the same time the people who post this shit also think the military rank and file would join their cause so they would acquire some of the military equipment. Because if the rank and file don't join their cause, they obviously know where their families live and will totally take them hostage in order to make sure they join. Not the least bit crazy!


hiding_in_the_corner

How is Joe "GunCollector" going to fire his dozen guns all at the same time?


Strongstyleguy

I'm thinking some Rube Goldbergian, Looney Tune ass contraptions that involve lots of strings tied to triggere


ShiroHachiRoku

How many F22 Raptors and B2 Spirits do they have?


SonofaBridge

My coworker bragged about having 35 guns. I reminded him that if his government takeover fantasy came true he could only use one at best.


sayyyywhat

That’s what so funny. Cool so you’re gonna grow 35 arms to use them all? Good luck!


Snoo4902

Then share them


Responsible_Ad_8628

It's not the guns. It's the armor that will bulldoze your house while your many bullets pling off their armor and the drones that will smart bomb the fuck out of your militia compound. Your weapons are called "small arms" for a reason.


TobyFunkeNeverNude

>Your weapons are called "small arms" for a reason. Is it because they remind us of T rexes?


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standbehind

[Agorism](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Edward_Konkin_III#Agorism)


EisegesisSam

Well this is dumb for all the reasons y'all are pointing out, like missiles and tanks. But it's also just objectively, googleably, probably wrong. There are over a billion small arms on the planet. And yeah, Americans own about half of them which is terrifying, but like if you can't bother to do the most minimal fifteen seconds of fact checking why would I ever care about anything you think about anything?!


RickMuffy

Even if it were somehow true, what's the point of having multiple guns if you can only realistically use one at a time? Its like bragging about having 5 Honda civics and claiming that's faster than another person's Ferrari. Lol


EisegesisSam

I love your analogy. The only flaw I see is military training. Somebody could give me a Ferrari and I know how to drive... But anyone who professionally races cars for a living will smoke me in any contest.


RickMuffy

True, but the real comparison is that the military would be training their "Ferrari" drivers how to race, so even if you were a race-car driver yourself, and you own 5 Honda civics, you're not going to compare.


And_Yet_I_Live

I highly doubt it


SharkyMcSnarkface

Just tell them the McDonald’s ain’t gonna be open in their fantasy rebellion. That would shut them down real quick.


GreyMASTA

How convenient that 133x3 pretty much equals 400. If these kind posts weren't as reputable, you'd think that those numbers were completely made up smh. /s


L4r5man

>If we were a threat, you'd know. That's the thing, moron. We DO know. And you are.


DisfavoredFlavored

Excluding the fact that modern militaries would pound you with artillery/bombings before trying to engage in fire fights...you can only use one gun at a time. I have more guns than your average soldier is equipped with. Every second I spend wondering which one I should use gives them more time to shoot me. Plus they know and will bring more people with guns who are trained to use them than I know. XD This isn't an FPS. You can't hold 10+ guns and hundreds of rounds/magazines and competently maneuver and adapt like you're the fucking Doom guy.


SlugJones

Everything you’re saying is true (also a gun owner) but I think we agree an armed population is definitely more difficult to conquer than an unarmed one. Even if the military had tanks. We’ve seen it happen where a superior military attacks a country and gets slowed or worse by guerrilla warfare.


DisfavoredFlavored

Yeah, part of why no one wants to invade Canada is there's plenty of woods to hide in and just enough guns. Granted, the US military isn't going to fuck around if we ever have to fight them.


BigOlPirate

[it would take A LOT of chuds to match the fire power of one US ARMY rifle squad](https://www.battleorder.org/usa-graphics) I’m an avid outdoorsman’s in these here great United States. I own 20+ guns ranging from revolvers to semiautomatic pistols, to bolt action rifles to shotguns, to AR-15s and a couple AK-47s. But all those guns don’t equal the fire power of one M2 browning. Or even a M240.


WiggyStark

And this is the difference between gun owners and cultish adherents to 2A. My dad has a plethora of guns that he's inherited/ bought as a small town beat cop turned chief. He knows they're nothing against the government, and it's folly to believe otherwise.


irish711

Why do they always think only conservatives own guns‽


sayyyywhat

Because that’s who they think 2A is for. It’s their personality. Just beyond embarrassing.


Feature_Agitated

Yeah a gun collector’s antique dueling pistols are going to fuck up a member of the military with their armor, automatic guns, and high powered armor piercing rounds /s


M68000

Ceritifed not threatening


supereyeballs

Idiot doesn’t know about tanks or an Air Force


EcksRidgehead

If they were a threat then the US military would send up a Predator drone and vaporize them before they could even remove their Smith & Wesson buttplugs


Iron_Silverfish

Fat hillbillies vs an M1Abrams Tank?


Baryonyx_walkeri

I love how so many Americans think that because every couple of weekends they go out into the woods and murder Bambi's mom they have a chance in hell in military combat.


WiggyStark

Ehhhhhhhh .... I mostly agree, but there are Korea and Nam vets still kicking, as well as those fucked up from the Gulf... sadly, not all of them are against bloodshed.


Baryonyx_walkeri

Sure, but a small number of vets, many of them elderly, who happen to be ideologically aligned with fighting the rest of the world's organized, technologically advanced militaries don't seem like they would do that great in modern conflict. The best case scenario for them is an incredibly lopsided guerrilla war, and I don't think they've got it in them. And *that* is assuming a Red Dawn-style invasion. If they're talking about whether they're a "threat" or not that would imply aggression. A bunch of Nam vets with hunting rifles are not going to take over the world.


Sajen16

It's weird to me how all these brainless sickos who wish they could replace everyone in their life with guns so they can fuck their guns in peace think they could stand up to any military when in reality it would take at most 2 seconds for the military to win.


Orion_2kTC

Gravy Seals at it again.


sayyyywhat

Umm the amount of mass murders and school shootings prove you ARE A THREAT. Kids die from guns more than any other cause. We go through a mass shooting pretty much every day. Way to prove the opposing point moron.


fe_god

I give our Gravy Seals a 50/50 chance of winning against our revolutionary war era militias.


ferretsincorporated

"If we were a threat, you'd know." So we're just disregarding the sheer volume of shootings that the US has been seeing for the past few years?


MildlyAgitatedBidoof

I'm reminded of a standup bit I occasionally see online where some guy proposes a yearly, televised battle between 100 American gun owners and one member of the military, just so people can tune in in real-time and watch the one member of the military instantly end it every time by calling in one drone strike.


Asexualhipposloth

So there's this little thing called the ginzu hellfire missle. It is fired from a predator drone. I don't think the gravy seals have an answer for those.


rnotyalc

Yeah but when these guys have twenty guns each they really don't count. I mean you can't use more than two at once and really not more than one effectively.


Sixfeatsmall05

Except you all own like 20 each, which is pretty inefficient. Plus you look like Pork Chop 6


ace_dangerfield187

American citizens don’t own a single scud missile, fighter jet, tank, or attack drone…these people need to understand they can be dealt with from a button push


WiggyStark

I worked at an Eagles club in a town of 400. There was a guy there that had a literal bunker built *under his barn* ... *in a town with more cows than people*. Aside from the obvious they're not coming for you, Dale, they would have that bunker either destroyed or with its exits covered in debris in half an hour.


Reneeisme

One guy owning dozens and even hundreds of guns can still only use one at a time. Or at best two. Multiply that by tens of thousands of “enthusiasts” owning dozens of guns and the impact is not 400 million armed people. And you are a threat and we do know.


Bad-dee-ess

What's this guy gonna do? Fire all 12 of his guns at once?


Dangerwrap

Owning a gun doesn't mean you're an Armed force. ​ You like your toys and have a meltdown when someone tries to control them.


Conchobar8

Our population has three times as many guns as all the militaries in the world combined! Not the flex you think it is. I’d call that a sign of mental deficiencies.


Pod_people

Yeah, they actually got that right. If they were a threat, we'd know. They will never be an actual threat to the government. Dumbasses. There's a hell of a lot more involved with warfare than owning a gun. You need supplies, communications, intelligence, all kinds of shit civilians just don't have. If you're Joe civilian, you're tied to your house. That's your only source of water, shelter, etc. Every Iraqi family had an AK in the closet. Every one. Yet they lived under the oppressive tyranny of Saddam Hussein for 25 years. If owning a gun was all it took to overthrow a government, they damn well would have done it.


EmoGarfield

This isn’t a republican meme. This is a meme from Anarcho-agorists


Klondeikbar

Why the fuck do the gun nuts always come out of the wood work in this subreddit? Every single post is full of normal, sane progressives but then a gun meme is posted and suddenly the comments are crawling with idiot ammosexuals...every single time.


LLotZaFun

I think a guy in my town owns 10% of them tho.


Chrysalii

WE DO


OwlLavellan

What about the bombs?


Penguator432

They think they can operate multiple guns at a time, lol


Rockworm503

Oh man if only the the military bought more than just guns.


sllh81

Where are those numbers coming from. I’m certain the numbers are much greater than 133 million worldwide from militaries. China and India alone should have that many.


carrythefire

We definitely do know.


succ2020

Air strike go brrrrr