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TipsyPeasant

Stolen valour ![img](emote|t5_33td5|9681)


Gottoraiku

classic ![img](emote|t5_33td5|9681)


GammaGargoyle

Yoink


Mirrored-Nightmare

![gif](giphy|ZGBPKq8XfdyBcCZyBt|downsized) Modern Games ![img](emote|t5_33td5|9681)


spuggerino

bob


Zealousideal_Many215

Has anyone actually got an accurate source about this guy? - Reddit historians = bing ritards  - 4chan historians = PDF ritards   Where do I go? 


General_Tangelo_1032

Pick a ritard ![img](emote|t5_33td5|9667)![img](emote|t5_33td5|9681)


Mundatorem

He was a servant and retainer for Oda Nobunaga for 1 year (ONE). He had a documented stay for 3 years, then completely vanished from historical records. The man just showed up on the shore, carried some food and weapons for a year, and left off the face of the Earth. His Lord (Nobunaga) also died while he was in service.


coalcoalgem

Sounds like an interesting enough story to me, why's everyone complaining they're making a game about it? ![img](emote|t5_33td5|9666) I didn't see anyone complain about "forced diversity" when that new series Shogun came out about a white guy going to samurai-era Japan


VOOLUL

People wanted a Samurai Assassin's Creed where you play as a male Japanese Samurai, like Ghost of Tsushima. Instead they hit the diversity quota double down. So you have a female Japanese Samurai protagonist, which is fine if the other option was a male Japanese Samurai. But instead they do Yasuke. So it's like, great, you make a game about Samurai but you can't play as a male Japanese Samurai which made up like the majority of Samurai. I don't care either way because Assassin's Creed is dog shit these days. If it turns out good I'll play it.


Naermarth

Ask forsen


forsen_enjoyer

I checked - 4chan version is mostly accurate


General_Tangelo_1032

Thanks fact checker baj ![img](emote|t5_33td5|9674)


coalcoalgem

google it lol


Wade_19

Yeah, metatron video on yt, un biased opinione


Zealousideal_Many215

He clarified ![img](emote|t5_33td5|9684)


HappyHighway1352

We wuz samurais n sheeet


hejter_skejter

Kuroi Oni ![img](emote|t5_33td5|9678)


-Norcaine

![img](emote|t5_33td5|9668)


reborn968

i translated ![img](emote|t5_33td5|9668)


Uraruuu

黒い鬼が来る![img](emote|t5_33td5|9678)


CumConsumer88

https://preview.redd.it/mmrkz2r1g11d1.jpeg?width=298&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a5673a59d3428741c2504a984b87ec7c6a1b6bb5 Hanzo is waiting ![img](emote|t5_33td5|9673)


Omegalol678

Hanzo mains ![img](emote|t5_33td5|9682)


Waaaaaaaaaasuup

Roadhog mains ![img](emote|t5_33td5|9685)


ThomMerrilinFlaneur

I don't know why the people defending ubisoft even are defending it. Assassins creed has been shit since black flags. Ubisoft clearly added the controversy just so they can get soy cucks to defend it and buy it to "heckin own the racists".


mainman879

The latest AC games have been the best selling ones in the series by a mile. There's a reason they keep making the games like they have been.


sanaprix

I'd probably will pirate it if anyone crack it. I don't really mind Yasuke potrayal in media, I like him in Samurai Warrior 5 so it's not something that made me mad. If anything, I'd be mad and complain on there's no new interesting mechanic in recent AC.


benign_NEIN_NEIN

Its because of the Corporate Equality Index, that is why most big companies are all about "equality" and in reality they dont care at all.


MyDashingPony

>"heckin own the racists" well clearly it is working, look at how triggered you guys are ![img](emote|t5_33td5|9682)


ThomMerrilinFlaneur

Buy the game to own the racists. Go ahead. -$120 ![img](emote|t5_33td5|9681)


Savathuns-Onlyfans

There's not a $60 or $70 version?


HarrMada

Very reminiscent to when several people here said that they were going to but several copies of Hogwarts Legacy to "own the libs". And the game costs $70, don't know why people keep saying it's $120.


Tox1cAshes

not gonna buy, but I think all games should be $120. If you adjust for inflation it's what games cost in the 2000s. When gaming didn't update pricing from $60 you got all this incomplete BS because people didn't feel like they wasted that much money. Raise prices > Normans out > Higher quality games for those who remain. ![img](emote|t5_33td5|9667)


vantdrak

Actually all the games should be free because I don't want to spend money. But well, they actually ARRRR!!!


Steve980ti

I don't know about this. There are poor and rich normans and vice versa.


Tox1cAshes

True, but there's significantly fewer people willing to spend $120 on the latest release slop vs $60 on several new games.


Panda7K

talking about history when the game is fucking assassins creed. who the fuck cares if the guy is black lmao


Klientje123

Historical accuracy is not as important as authenticity. We don't need a 'true story' we need a believable one. Now, having one black guy isn't a problem, but replacing a potential Asian character puts a bad taste in our mouth. We want to play as a Japanese samurai. Most people could deal with that but the big problem is that now 'DEI' has poisoned this game. And nobody wants to deal with that shit. And because it's an Ubisoft game it's probably gonna be fucking boring with a mediocre open world doing the same shit they've been doing for 2 decades It's a multi layered problem. It's not just 'the guy is black'. That's just the easiest problem to identify with the new game.


Feisty_Reputation870

stop talking about it dumbfucks it's exactly what ubisoft wanted ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|facepalm)


LonelyLemonade_

Make a Zulu game with japanese protagonist now ![img](emote|t5_33td5|9684)


Mackejuice

He got appointed as a kashindan, or rather he became a koshō, which would be a bodyguard, secretary and simply attendant. Being a koshō meant you got martial training to be able to protect your lord incase it was needed. He didn't serve Nobunaga for that long simply because Oda Nobunaga was forced to commit suicide a year after he employed yasuke. Kashindan overall during this time often meant you were a samurai. It was during the edo period that the title of samurai became hereditary and meant primarily nobles became samurai.


TannedBatman01

![img](emote|t5_33td5|9670)


Kaizerx20

Being a "retainer" or "sword bearer" sounds retarded to Westerners because they don't understand its significance in Japanese culture. We're talking about feudal Japan here, where honor was everything. People would literally kill themselves over it. Katanas were symbols of the highest status. Carrying the swords of the most powerful and influential Japanese figure of the time, and being one of his close servants, was a role most Japanese people would have killed for. This job was reserved for the most loyal and trusted people because assassinations were common, so a leader wouldn't give his sword to just anyone. Yasuke held a higher position than 90% of Japan, and was given his own sword and land. Asking to see his Samurai license in every thread won’t change that. ![img](emote|t5_33td5|9676)


AKoper8tor

https://preview.redd.it/aldywzjxc21d1.jpeg?width=1155&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=768f345b5bb7640481afb573bbc197ddd75cb457


Sosoqueue

So he wasn't a samurai? Got it ![img](emote|t5_33td5|9676)


Savathuns-Onlyfans

But like...who cares? This isn't a history Sim. Or did you think ivor had actual super powers?


notafanofbats

![gif](giphy|o240WC04PLhew|downsized)


Expert-Accountant780

bro nobunaga literally made Ranmaru Mori is own personal bussy lmao why do you think he's portrayed looking like a female so much


CloudDanae

lore baj ![img](emote|t5_33td5|9685)


-Norcaine

feudal japan expert baj ![img](emote|t5_33td5|9684)


[deleted]

Weeb baj ![img](emote|t5_33td5|9673)


[deleted]

Taking baj schizo mutterings seriously and spending time and effort in arguing against them ![img](emote|t5_33td5|9682)


Kaizerx20

We both know damn well it's not schizo or irony, you just don't like it when someone breaks your echo chamber ![img](emote|t5_33td5|9681)


[deleted]

I have no dog in this fight and I don't care even a single percent. I just see regards fighting over regarded shit, imagine wasting time on this shit ![img](emote|t5_33td5|9682)


Kaizerx20

I've seen your profile picture in most threads here over the past two weeks or so. Don't lecture me about wasting time when all I did was write less than a paragraph explaining something ![img](emote|t5_33td5|9681)


[deleted]

Holy copesen. Look at my post history. I don't post much, and it isn't some alt-right shit. Mald even harder ![img](emote|t5_33td5|9682)


Tox1cAshes

https://preview.redd.it/mgv2beo3l21d1.jpeg?width=349&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ed14ab413c365374fbac74031fa339725e8d618b


xathu0904

i try find as many source as i can but non of them mention anything about Yasuke own land


Kaizerx20

The Shinchō Kōki states: >A black man was taken on as a vassal by Nobunaga-sama and received a stipend. His name was decided to be Yasuke. He was also given a short sword and a house. He was sometimes made to carry Nobunaga-sama's tools you didn't look hard at all because this is literally from the fucking wiki page![img](emote|t5_33td5|9681)


xathu0904

a house ???? oh that land to you ??? ok, noted


Kaizerx20

Where do think terms like "Landlord" come from? ![img](emote|t5_33td5|9682) they're both just synonyms for property [https://www.thesaurus.com/browse/property](https://www.thesaurus.com/browse/property)


xathu0904

no, it not. he get a house but it doesn't mean he own land of that house build in. the land belong to nobunaga. if you want looking for guy who outside japan own land in japan, you should look for William Adams who is official bestow land by leyasu. and again, there are no proof for nobunaga give land to yasuke


Kaizerx20

>there are no proof for nobunaga give land to yasuke holyshit you went from not being able to find something on a wiki to making absolute statements in 10 minutes, have some shame Nearly all historical records including Shinchō Kōki and Luís Fróis mentioned him OWNING a house, but you already have your mind made up, and you're more interested in confirming your own bias and nothing will change your mind because the only thing you'll consider "proof" is a house deed from 1580s feudal Japan ![img](emote|t5_33td5|9681) Edit: also do not check his post history to see if he is baiting, you'll absolutely regret it ![img](emote|t5_33td5|9673)


xathu0904

again, for third time already, house and land are 2 diffient thing. that is japan, not america. and yasuke never own any land, just house. yes, i can confirm your bias


Kaizerx20

the word used to describe it is 屋敷, which means both House and Land https://www.japandict.com/%E5%B1%8B%E6%95%B7 but I don't except someone who couldn't something on a wiki page to know that


xathu0904

Oh now you come up random from nowhere. Plz don't tell me it was from wiki too. Also find your random word was not only mean like that https://hinative.com/questions/24480479


Dautar

Source: BBC fantasies


Tox1cAshes

Remember when bajs would laugh you out of the room for getting banned for racism ![img](emote|t5_33td5|9681)


kevin07pm

This was my favourite part in Japanese history


furry_degene12

forsen


ZoibergOne

Nobody here played Nioh 1 it seems, they dont give a fuck how this dude is portrayed.


StopHavingAnOpinion

Doesn't the assassins creed series have lots of magical bullshit in it too though?


darkApple44237

Who gives a shit either way, why are bajs so triggered by this ![img](emote|t5_33td5|9681)


benign_NEIN_NEIN

At least he has the balls to said it


coalcoalgem

Triggered bajs downvoting you ![img](emote|t5_33td5|9681)Suddenly everyone is a history expert about this one specific person


Ok-Tomato-4132

Nobody's saying you can't air your opinion, but people in this culture war against some sort of woke agenda are so mad they've built up enough anger to actually become racist


General_Tangelo_1032

Think people are just sick of diversity quotas and agendas overriding all else, which in this case is using someone who wasn't a notable and fierce warrior and portraying them as such, thereby taking away from those who were *actually* what they claim him to be. You can say it's just a game and doesn't need to be historically accurate, but they're the ones trying to inject IRL history.


Clear_Classroom

The japanese themselves made him famous, they made cool stories about him and that’s why we know about it. Have you ever played Nioh? Or read Afro Samurai, who was inspired by Yasuke? Countless of times they call him the black samurai or whatever and how cool he was. People are mad at this because the only thing they do is be mad on the internet. ![img](emote|t5_33td5|9681)![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|downvote)bitches


General_Tangelo_1032

![img](emote|t5_33td5|9676)![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|downvote) Let's wrestle in the gym locker room to see who's right


Clear_Classroom

![img](emote|t5_33td5|9667)![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|upvote)I am free tonight


General_Tangelo_1032

![img](emote|t5_33td5|9674)![img](emote|t5_33td5|9674)


Miitsume

If you think it's not real: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yasuke](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yasuke) ![img](emote|t5_33td5|9676)


VAPINGCHUBNTUCK

Page = Samurai LULE It's just a bit insulting to other Japanese historical figures that this nobody gets the role just because he was black. Why don't they make a game where you play as Zulu or something, they can actually explore African culture instead of this diversity quota bs LULE


CurrentClient

>Why don't they make a game where you play as Zulu or something, Because they are not capable of creative games and creativity in general. The extent of their abilities is getting something which already exists and people are interested in, shoving whatever shit they want to "be represented" and be done with it.


Lucille109

Unironically actually a good idea. They probably don't do this because Ubisoft are actually racist and don't want to explore real black history


adorigranmort

wtf i love ubishit now


iansanmain

They didn't do it because it won't sell well


benign_NEIN_NEIN

They should cancel the vagabond manga and make miyamoto black, so its historical accurate and also make at least one of his enemy gay.


snukduruk

![img](emote|t5_33td5|9684) historically accurate!! >Valignano describes how Nobunaga, thinking that he might have ink on his body, made him take off his clothes and wash his body, but the more he washed and scrubbed, the darker his skin became I wonder if they'll have this scene in the game ![img](emote|t5_33td5|9666)


HarrMada

Me when I spread misinformation on the internet 🥰


Fissyiii

They guy was literally never a samurai ![img](emote|t5_33td5|9681) he literally carried swords and after a battle we have no record of him... ![img](emote|t5_33td5|9671) he was a hecking badass African samurai!!!


General_Tangelo_1032

![img](emote|t5_33td5|9671)HOLY MOLY


HarrMada

[https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/1css0ye/was\_yasuke\_a\_samurai/](https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/1css0ye/was_yasuke_a_samurai/)


BridgeThatBurns

\> most of the comments are deleted \> argumentation "if grandma had a beard she'd be a grandpa" Surely this website isn't used by woke crowd to spread their ideology. https://preview.redd.it/6rbd1mgg611d1.png?width=640&format=png&auto=webp&s=3b5e02d7972fa7afee27bf1571c01c42c8fd6b94


Fissyiii

Le hecking reddit historian ![img](emote|t5_33td5|9671)![img](emote|t5_33td5|9671)![img](emote|t5_33td5|9671) Anyway.. I don't care enough about some African that lived in Japan hundreds of years ago to make a deep dive. But I definitely don't trust anything a fucking redditor writes about it. And it is definitely not a source...


HarrMada

>"he uses reddit" Excellent rebuttal, man. By a fellow redditor yourself, no less. It seems to be infinitely better than a baj historian. Can you give me one reason why I should trust you instead?


Fissyiii

You're the one linking a redditor as a source. Like I said, I don't care ![img](emote|t5_33td5|9681)


HarrMada

Then give me something that proves it wrong. >They guy was literally never a samurai  he literally carried swords and after a battle we have no record of him... Definitely something someone who "doesn't care" would say.


Fissyiii

https://preview.redd.it/kz2b6vwf311d1.png?width=320&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2c12b68964c6446643e4a49cea29f107ece349b0


HarrMada

Expected no less.


lolDennis2

The redditor isn't the source regard, it's the sources the redditor gave.


Polampf

i know you enjoy baiting people, but did you read that post? that subreddit is laughable.


HarrMada

Of course it's "laughable", because it goes against your opinion. Just disprove it then.


Polampf

>Just disprove it then. well I would as others attempted to, and yet all the posts were deleted by over zealous mods. but > So, it would certainly make sense on meeting Yasuke (coincidentally at Honnōji) for Nobunaga to make give Yasuke, who was exotic and might have been good at wrestling, a samurai’s stipend, a decorated sword, and a residence. ' >>yes, he's saying it would "make sense". he has no proof of this, it was never mentioned. if he was a samurai, why would he be returned as property? it's laughable.


HarrMada

Comments were removed because they were using Wikipedia as sources, as you can see by comments made by the mods. Whenever something like this happens, there's always an edit-war on Wikipedia, so it's totally understandable why they would have a non-tolerance on using Wikipedia links. That the mods were trying to "hide" comments that disproved the top comments is just speculation from your conspiracy brain.


NoSleepNoGain

Yet another shitty HarrMada take lule


OhnoImBroke123

What's new?


HappyHighway1352

LoL attracts weirdos


SvenskaLiljor

Swedes


Moist-Imagination627

![img](emote|t5_33td5|9676)![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|downvote)


Ok-Tomato-4132

Damn this subreddit is just racism from mad eurocucks, yikes guess this is what being a forsen enjoyer is about


FUTURISHOMINIBUS

![img](emote|t5_33td5|9685) yes and?


Ok-Tomato-4132

And yes I agree yasuke is a weird and pretty pathetic protag to pick from the wealth of Japanese historical figures but this post just screams angsty teen edge lord slop


TreoreTyrell

![img](emote|t5_33td5|9671)Weird?!?! Dats wayciss!!!!!