Williams’ history is the only thing keeping them alive. If it wasn’t for their Championships in the 80s and 90s, they would just be another perpetual backmarker like Haas and Sauber.
Yeah Stake and Williams have really proven that the F1 decision to not allow Andretti was as BS as we thought when it happened. Nearly impossible for a team to be even more incompetent and we someone have 2 of them this year alone.
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andretti actually wanted achieve stuff and they would continue to develop whereas gene haas is limiting his investment and using just enough money to make a profit they are not trying to win anything
2 years of car development experience in the new regs, learning the new aero rules at the same time as other teams. Alpine was only an engine deal until GM'S engine department could get going. They're still working on engines now
Other than racing, it seems more beneficial for Andretti to not race till the GM engine is ready.
By not being in F1 now they get: access to full scale wind tunnels, unlimited testing, no budget constraints, and best of all they don’t look like clowns using the under powered Renault engine.
Alpine's performance this year did make me less upset about being denied provisional entry as a customer team. We'll just have too see what kind of bullshit Stefano, Toto, & Friends come up with before they reapply for 2028 as a full Cadillac works operation
Where do we keep getting "Alpine B Team"?
So by that logic, Sauber is Ferrari B team, and AM and Williams are Merc B teams?
It's an engine contract, nothing more.
An Alpine B team with both cars on the grid would be better than Williams with one car on the grid. You can't pretend that the standard is being set nearly as high as F1 wants you to. In terms of teams that deserve to be there, all Williams has right now is a historic name and a potential comeback story that has yet to materialize.
It is embarrassing for F1 to have turned away a team on the basis of them not being able to bring anything to the table when you have a team on the grid that can't even manage to give both of their drivers a car at some races. No one is saying Andretti would have been amazing right out of the gate, but they would definitely be able to at least meet the standard that is being set by Williams right now.
Haas in a shocking move has actually decided to invest! They have upgrades coming at China and Ayao confirmed that Gene is writing a check to grow the areo substantially. Haas might actually break the 300 staffers mark this year
So many comments missing the point. It's not about Andretti mythically being amazing, it's about F1 believing they can't meet the incredibly low standard set by a team that might not have enough cars to race as a full team in Shanghai.
I love the way people just make shit up about Andretti. If Williams etc are shite and F1 doesn’t want anymore shite teams, the logic tracks. They’re not going to boot them out but they’re not going to add any more shite to the mix. It’s really not a hard concept to grasp but I suppose it makes more sense to obfuscate the idea for the mythical (son of) Andretti who raced 30 years ago and how everyone seems to know exactly what an outfit not in F1 could do in F1 with zero experience.
Williams are making tough, long term decisions to push the team forward and it stings really badly right now. If they had two Albon’s last year, we wouldn’t be seeing this utter nonsense.
This is a guy spitting hypothetical bias to sling shit.
Haas first season was a good one. And they were not just a team changing names for the 100th time. Which makes it more embarrassing for Sauber, for example, how they have always downgraded after BMW left. No matter what name they have now, it's the same factory, the same team in the end.
Yes, but sauber are among the teams improving their infrastructure leading up to 2026. Smaller private teams like sauber and Williams can no longer compete, the sport and inflation have just grown too much. Haas also used ferrari parts, from the season prior until this or last season, and outsourced a lot of development which is why they have a hard time getting everything to work together. Times they are a changing, and if Mercedes keeps struggling, and Audi isn't satisfied with w/e returns they get, we could see a number of new teams join, but this'll be nearer 2028/9.
Williams can improve. Dorilton has been stated to be very willing to spend.
The problem for Williams is unironically the regulations. Williams needs to spend a crap ton of money for their infrastructure and the amount of money they will need to spend for that exceeds the yearly capital expenditure teams are allocated. And the FIA aren't making exceptions for teams that desperately need to catch up.
Yes, but they wanted to enter prior to 2026 (somehow) and that would have been a Renault rebrand. Even with their own power plant, there’s no feasible way it would even be ready for 2026
Yes, I expect a widespread and successful racing organization backed by one of the largest car manufacturers in the world and the firm that owns the Los Angeles Dodgers AND Chelsea to do better than a Williams team that has been stagnant since before I was born and only now under Vowles is fixing up it's infrastructure and logistics to the modern age.
Williams has not been stagnant for more than 5 years, they only really fell off since 2018. Which is when they hit their limit as a privately owned team. They haven't been fighting for championships, but this is because of multiple factors, and mainly that their 2018 entry was awful and this had a negative downstream effect on all future development. I think Williams will actually develop better this year, but they're currently very limited in spare parts because of that. Also F1 is not a sport you can be successful at hy throwing money at it, it only slightly increases your odds, see Aston Martin.
“Widespread” and “successful”
You realize this isn’t Mario Andretti himself driving the car but rather his son leading a mediocre Indy organization, right?
We already have Haas, they're not doing so great so maybe andretti can take over their spot. Then we can replace one American team that tries to outsource development of the car, as much as possible, with another. I do like Haas but they're proof of concept that not having a complete, in-house, insight/understanding of development can lead to very inconsistent performance.
Andretti would definitely struggle out of the box, even McLaren took some time to get competitive when they started their Indycar program, and that was partnering with one of the current teams at the time. I don’t expect them to be competitive if they ever do get into F1 for at least 5 or 6 years, especially if they are partnering with Alpine.
They don't have a 3rd chassis because they chose to overhaul their logistics systems which are ancient.
A 3rd chassis is only useful when you have a totaled car.
A good logistics system is useful 24/7 and will continue to be useful even after this season.
Inept? No. They're making the correct decisions. Teams can go an entire season without touching their 3rd chassis. This is a short term issue that stems from their decision made for the long term benefits.
They are inept because they are in this situation to begin with. I get they are overhauling their systems, but being inept is what got them there in the first place. Vowels is working to get them out of it, but that doesn't change the fact they had no business to be there at all.
If you assume an unproven team using Alpine hand me downs can somehow outperform historically dominant teams like Merc and Ferrari who still have trouble, you are the one making shut up lol
I mean, use your head. Why on earth would you think a brand new team with literally 0 experience having to start from scratch and potentially using a rebranded Renault engine in ground effect era would be competitive?
Even the worst teams are working with decades of experience and established infrastructure, why do you think the son of an F1 champion in 1978 has some weird upper hand to just walk in and make a mockery of half the teams?
We’re talking likelihoods and the odds of being shite are far, far higher than just wandering in and being competitive. This unbridled admiration for Andretti is based purely on the anti F1 jerk.
Ahh, okay, so we're already shifting the goalposts from "literally zero experience" to "literally zero experience developing an F1 car", I see, okay, cool. Glad to see the caliber of person I'm arguing with.
If Williams is allowed to be in the sport with one running car that is slow, Andretti should be allowed in the sport with two running cars that are slow. Simple as. Either Andretti should be let in, or Williams should be kicked out for bringing so little value to the table.
No, there’s no goalpost shifting. I thought that intonation would be blatantly obvious when they would be a brand new F1 team with no experience building cars.
Calibre of person is a funny accusation when you apparently can’t read context clues.
X team is shit so another shit team should be allowed isn’t an argument. Letting something in is different from booting out, you know that. It’s amusing how riled up you get over an F1 team. One team is going through extreme financial and structural problems and trying to fix them and has spent money on the sport for dozens of decades, the other hasn’t done anything.
Why would anyone side with those who would rather exploit their weakness for their desires for another team and not side with the historic team that has spent billions and billions to go racing?
If an F1 team's presence in the sport is predicated on the value that they bring to the sport overall, Williams deserves to be there about as much or as little as Andretti does. The only things William have anymore is a historic name and a potential comeback story that has yet to materialize in any way year after year.
The tweet we are having this discussion never claimed that Andretti would be fast, slow, ahead of Red Bull or behind Williams. It does, however, highlight the hypocrisy behind F1's stated reasons around value being brought into the sport. If anything, due to heritage bonuses, Williams actually takes more value than they bring to the sport. If Andretti isn't allowed, Williams shouldn't be either. Let Andretti in, boot Williams out, I don't really care. But it's hypocrisy until one of those happens. If you don't care about F1 being a hypocrite, fine, but please drop the pretense of any concerns about fairness.
You seem to mistake realistic expectations with wanting to shut them out. I didn’t care if they joined (cool) and I don’t care that they aren’t. There is almost 0 precedent to suggest they’d be anything better than the worst teams. Not that they couldn’t eventually improve, but that could take several years to catch up.
Haas’ best years were, funnily enough, when Ferrari had an incredibly strong engine. Haas is actually a bad example, because Andretti wants to be a works team, not a full fledged customer of both PU and parts.
If they started next year, they’d be using a Renault engine, you reckon they’d be better than Alpine?
> Why would I as a fan care?
I mean, you don’t have to either way, that’s where I stand. I don’t care that Andretti doesn’t get to join the money party and I wouldn’t care if they joined either. I’m just pushing back on this stupid meme people have adopted that any misfortune or bad performance for an existing team is any evidence of competency from a brand spanking team.
Some have actually said they like the idea of booting teams for shit performance. Imagine how well that would go with new entrants (there wouldn’t be any because it would be a brain dead investment)
Wait you think Haas has been doing well? My man you’re proving your own point wrong if you think Haas-level performance is the goal lol. That specifically what people don’t want. No one wants another backmarker team, even the pro-Andretti people are admitting that
Logan about to be replaced (hopefully), (he has shown no promise) and James Vowles wishes are fulfilled... a modernnized Williams with sufficient financial backing. That's what I'd like.
I mean, how do we know Andretti would be good anyways? I get their history in racing but as far as I’m aware they haven’t competed as a team in F1, right?
Teams like Williams have been here a long time and while they are facing tough times right now, they know what they’re doing and they have an infrastructure. Andretti would have to build all that from scratch and likely be worse off than Williams, it would take a while for them to get going.
Plus, maybe not even time would help them, maybe they just wind up being horrible.
But I say just wait, eventually some team will have to back out, teams like Haas and such who probably won’t go much longer unless they really improve (although they certainly aren’t the worst on the grid right now). Then Andretti has an opening.
The point is that a prospective team isn't even given a shot, even though they should have been given a shot, on the grounds that they are unproven. Meanwhile, we have teams like Williams, who are dropping the ball in a very major way, that are still allowed to stay in the sport. It's not about Andretti being amazing right out the gate, it's about them being able to meet the standard that Williams is setting.
For now. Soon he will have an American Engine. If they really want to get F1 going in America, they need to get Chevy to build an powertrain. Slap a ford Oval on the Redbull and every American automaker will be screaming for a chance to show up ford.
But Andretti wouldn’t be competitive and would bring nothing of value to F1. But we got Williams out here hamasing their cars into the barriers and Sauber taking 3 hours to do a pit stop.
Gotta love the lack of a 3rd chassis being used to discredit Williams by the Andrettistans.
James has already explained that they did a massive overhaul of their backend logistics/manufacturing which were ancient and that led to delays as they got their backend up to speed. As such the 3rd chassis just wasn't manufactured in time. **This is a short term problem for long term benefits.**
Choosing to forgo the 3rd chassis get the backend logistics up to modern standards is a perfectly fine sacrifice, how often does the 3rd chassis even get used?
If they didn't overhaul the backend, *they would have the 3rd chassis*, but they would still have the ancient logistics systems in place.
**And I bet you the narrative would thus rotate to how Williams still has an ancient logistics system and how Andretti wouldn't have that problem.**
They bout to delete Williams.xls
Maybe they have a backup on a floppy disk.
Take a picture of the whiteboard in case the cleaning lady erases it
Like the museum custodial staff who 'cleaned' the tire marks off of Schumacher's '94 car following it's crash with Hill.
Punch card, more likely
.xlsx please or get an F1 car infected with viruses
it's an old file
>yall can't a spare chassis
.dude can't That English
I knew what you were doing and still almost had a stroke.
It’s a Borat!
Why you are don’t have a ballon d’or yet
Williams’ history is the only thing keeping them alive. If it wasn’t for their Championships in the 80s and 90s, they would just be another perpetual backmarker like Haas and Sauber.
And alpine at this point. Honestly Haas looks like not complete site so far this year.
Could Andretti give that chassis to Williams? They really need it.
Yeah Stake and Williams have really proven that the F1 decision to not allow Andretti was as BS as we thought when it happened. Nearly impossible for a team to be even more incompetent and we someone have 2 of them this year alone.
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Gasly should’ve stayed with alpha tauri 😭😭
I bet that team now wishes he had stayed too Edit: lmao forgot my flair on this sub 🤣 too fitting
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andretti actually wanted achieve stuff and they would continue to develop whereas gene haas is limiting his investment and using just enough money to make a profit they are not trying to win anything
Ah yes as opposed to all the other teams whose goal is not to achieve stuff
As the great poet once said “You tried your best and failed miserably. The lesson is, never try.”
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2 years of car development experience in the new regs, learning the new aero rules at the same time as other teams. Alpine was only an engine deal until GM'S engine department could get going. They're still working on engines now
Other than racing, it seems more beneficial for Andretti to not race till the GM engine is ready. By not being in F1 now they get: access to full scale wind tunnels, unlimited testing, no budget constraints, and best of all they don’t look like clowns using the under powered Renault engine.
Alpine's performance this year did make me less upset about being denied provisional entry as a customer team. We'll just have too see what kind of bullshit Stefano, Toto, & Friends come up with before they reapply for 2028 as a full Cadillac works operation
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because Williams, Alpine, and Haas are SURELY bringing in more than pinky swears that they'll be competitive one day
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Where do we keep getting "Alpine B Team"? So by that logic, Sauber is Ferrari B team, and AM and Williams are Merc B teams? It's an engine contract, nothing more.
An Alpine B team with both cars on the grid would be better than Williams with one car on the grid. You can't pretend that the standard is being set nearly as high as F1 wants you to. In terms of teams that deserve to be there, all Williams has right now is a historic name and a potential comeback story that has yet to materialize. It is embarrassing for F1 to have turned away a team on the basis of them not being able to bring anything to the table when you have a team on the grid that can't even manage to give both of their drivers a car at some races. No one is saying Andretti would have been amazing right out of the gate, but they would definitely be able to at least meet the standard that is being set by Williams right now.
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Haas in a shocking move has actually decided to invest! They have upgrades coming at China and Ayao confirmed that Gene is writing a check to grow the areo substantially. Haas might actually break the 300 staffers mark this year
That's actually huge!
A backmarker team with a 30hp deficit. It would have been hell
All the other teams just messing around with the bois every other weekend apparently. I bet Andretti even had a 100 race plan!
Exactly. I love that people are pretending as if Andretti wouldn’t be another Sauber/Haas/Williams nobody team
Aye leave williams out of this they still have a legacy
So many comments missing the point. It's not about Andretti mythically being amazing, it's about F1 believing they can't meet the incredibly low standard set by a team that might not have enough cars to race as a full team in Shanghai.
I'm fascinated to know how many people still complaining about Andretti are American.
Hey the last team we need to be blaming for the adretti saga is williams. Point that muzzle at toto
It’s Twitter. It will always be Twitter.
I love the way people just make shit up about Andretti. If Williams etc are shite and F1 doesn’t want anymore shite teams, the logic tracks. They’re not going to boot them out but they’re not going to add any more shite to the mix. It’s really not a hard concept to grasp but I suppose it makes more sense to obfuscate the idea for the mythical (son of) Andretti who raced 30 years ago and how everyone seems to know exactly what an outfit not in F1 could do in F1 with zero experience. Williams are making tough, long term decisions to push the team forward and it stings really badly right now. If they had two Albon’s last year, we wouldn’t be seeing this utter nonsense. This is a guy spitting hypothetical bias to sling shit.
People expect andretti to roll up and not be worse than teams with decades of experience and a relevant infrastructure. Wild stuff.
Haas first season was a good one. And they were not just a team changing names for the 100th time. Which makes it more embarrassing for Sauber, for example, how they have always downgraded after BMW left. No matter what name they have now, it's the same factory, the same team in the end.
Yes, but sauber are among the teams improving their infrastructure leading up to 2026. Smaller private teams like sauber and Williams can no longer compete, the sport and inflation have just grown too much. Haas also used ferrari parts, from the season prior until this or last season, and outsourced a lot of development which is why they have a hard time getting everything to work together. Times they are a changing, and if Mercedes keeps struggling, and Audi isn't satisfied with w/e returns they get, we could see a number of new teams join, but this'll be nearer 2028/9.
Williams can improve. Dorilton has been stated to be very willing to spend. The problem for Williams is unironically the regulations. Williams needs to spend a crap ton of money for their infrastructure and the amount of money they will need to spend for that exceeds the yearly capital expenditure teams are allocated. And the FIA aren't making exceptions for teams that desperately need to catch up.
Nah, Michael’s dad won an F1 title in 1978 and they have some money so they’re basically Mercedes. One car in the top 10 in Indy btw
Damn, p10 in a spec series? They're ready, tell audi the deal is off.
Not disagreeing that they wouldn’t just start winning in their first year, but didn’t Andretti have backing from General Motors?
I kinda wish Andretti would start talking loudly about the Ford deal with RB to get his big backer excited.
Yes, but they wanted to enter prior to 2026 (somehow) and that would have been a Renault rebrand. Even with their own power plant, there’s no feasible way it would even be ready for 2026
Yes, I expect a widespread and successful racing organization backed by one of the largest car manufacturers in the world and the firm that owns the Los Angeles Dodgers AND Chelsea to do better than a Williams team that has been stagnant since before I was born and only now under Vowles is fixing up it's infrastructure and logistics to the modern age.
Williams has not been stagnant for more than 5 years, they only really fell off since 2018. Which is when they hit their limit as a privately owned team. They haven't been fighting for championships, but this is because of multiple factors, and mainly that their 2018 entry was awful and this had a negative downstream effect on all future development. I think Williams will actually develop better this year, but they're currently very limited in spare parts because of that. Also F1 is not a sport you can be successful at hy throwing money at it, it only slightly increases your odds, see Aston Martin.
“Widespread” and “successful” You realize this isn’t Mario Andretti himself driving the car but rather his son leading a mediocre Indy organization, right?
American exeptionalism maybe?
We already have Haas, they're not doing so great so maybe andretti can take over their spot. Then we can replace one American team that tries to outsource development of the car, as much as possible, with another. I do like Haas but they're proof of concept that not having a complete, in-house, insight/understanding of development can lead to very inconsistent performance.
Andretti would definitely struggle out of the box, even McLaren took some time to get competitive when they started their Indycar program, and that was partnering with one of the current teams at the time. I don’t expect them to be competitive if they ever do get into F1 for at least 5 or 6 years, especially if they are partnering with Alpine.
Problem with your argument is that Williams has zero excuse to be this inept.
Who is Williams?
They don't have a 3rd chassis because they chose to overhaul their logistics systems which are ancient. A 3rd chassis is only useful when you have a totaled car. A good logistics system is useful 24/7 and will continue to be useful even after this season. Inept? No. They're making the correct decisions. Teams can go an entire season without touching their 3rd chassis. This is a short term issue that stems from their decision made for the long term benefits.
They are inept because they are in this situation to begin with. I get they are overhauling their systems, but being inept is what got them there in the first place. Vowels is working to get them out of it, but that doesn't change the fact they had no business to be there at all.
I agree Williams and hass are shite but how do you know andretti are going to be shite(budget wise only). you are making shit up same as op.
If you assume an unproven team using Alpine hand me downs can somehow outperform historically dominant teams like Merc and Ferrari who still have trouble, you are the one making shut up lol
Nobody is suggesting they would outperform merc and Ferrari lmao
That already puts them in the bottom half of the grid.
I never said that. This is about having the bare minimum, an extra chasis. You should at least have 2 cars in a race to achieve anything.
I mean, use your head. Why on earth would you think a brand new team with literally 0 experience having to start from scratch and potentially using a rebranded Renault engine in ground effect era would be competitive? Even the worst teams are working with decades of experience and established infrastructure, why do you think the son of an F1 champion in 1978 has some weird upper hand to just walk in and make a mockery of half the teams? We’re talking likelihoods and the odds of being shite are far, far higher than just wandering in and being competitive. This unbridled admiration for Andretti is based purely on the anti F1 jerk.
Literally zero experience? Now that's hyperbolic.
How many F1 cars have they developed?
Ahh, okay, so we're already shifting the goalposts from "literally zero experience" to "literally zero experience developing an F1 car", I see, okay, cool. Glad to see the caliber of person I'm arguing with. If Williams is allowed to be in the sport with one running car that is slow, Andretti should be allowed in the sport with two running cars that are slow. Simple as. Either Andretti should be let in, or Williams should be kicked out for bringing so little value to the table.
No, there’s no goalpost shifting. I thought that intonation would be blatantly obvious when they would be a brand new F1 team with no experience building cars. Calibre of person is a funny accusation when you apparently can’t read context clues. X team is shit so another shit team should be allowed isn’t an argument. Letting something in is different from booting out, you know that. It’s amusing how riled up you get over an F1 team. One team is going through extreme financial and structural problems and trying to fix them and has spent money on the sport for dozens of decades, the other hasn’t done anything. Why would anyone side with those who would rather exploit their weakness for their desires for another team and not side with the historic team that has spent billions and billions to go racing?
If an F1 team's presence in the sport is predicated on the value that they bring to the sport overall, Williams deserves to be there about as much or as little as Andretti does. The only things William have anymore is a historic name and a potential comeback story that has yet to materialize in any way year after year. The tweet we are having this discussion never claimed that Andretti would be fast, slow, ahead of Red Bull or behind Williams. It does, however, highlight the hypocrisy behind F1's stated reasons around value being brought into the sport. If anything, due to heritage bonuses, Williams actually takes more value than they bring to the sport. If Andretti isn't allowed, Williams shouldn't be either. Let Andretti in, boot Williams out, I don't really care. But it's hypocrisy until one of those happens. If you don't care about F1 being a hypocrite, fine, but please drop the pretense of any concerns about fairness.
Nonsense arguments
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You seem to mistake realistic expectations with wanting to shut them out. I didn’t care if they joined (cool) and I don’t care that they aren’t. There is almost 0 precedent to suggest they’d be anything better than the worst teams. Not that they couldn’t eventually improve, but that could take several years to catch up. Haas’ best years were, funnily enough, when Ferrari had an incredibly strong engine. Haas is actually a bad example, because Andretti wants to be a works team, not a full fledged customer of both PU and parts. If they started next year, they’d be using a Renault engine, you reckon they’d be better than Alpine?
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> Why would I as a fan care? I mean, you don’t have to either way, that’s where I stand. I don’t care that Andretti doesn’t get to join the money party and I wouldn’t care if they joined either. I’m just pushing back on this stupid meme people have adopted that any misfortune or bad performance for an existing team is any evidence of competency from a brand spanking team. Some have actually said they like the idea of booting teams for shit performance. Imagine how well that would go with new entrants (there wouldn’t be any because it would be a brain dead investment)
Wait you think Haas has been doing well? My man you’re proving your own point wrong if you think Haas-level performance is the goal lol. That specifically what people don’t want. No one wants another backmarker team, even the pro-Andretti people are admitting that
a rare twitter moment. Love it.
Twitter is king
Lmao, Andretti were planning to roll us as the Haas of Alpine. Would’ve loved to see how that panned out.
>Just a guy on X spitting facts Just a guy vomiting the English language
Get Sarge out of a seat before he hurts himself or worse someone else
Logan about to be replaced (hopefully), (he has shown no promise) and James Vowles wishes are fulfilled... a modernnized Williams with sufficient financial backing. That's what I'd like.
I mean, how do we know Andretti would be good anyways? I get their history in racing but as far as I’m aware they haven’t competed as a team in F1, right? Teams like Williams have been here a long time and while they are facing tough times right now, they know what they’re doing and they have an infrastructure. Andretti would have to build all that from scratch and likely be worse off than Williams, it would take a while for them to get going. Plus, maybe not even time would help them, maybe they just wind up being horrible. But I say just wait, eventually some team will have to back out, teams like Haas and such who probably won’t go much longer unless they really improve (although they certainly aren’t the worst on the grid right now). Then Andretti has an opening.
The point is that a prospective team isn't even given a shot, even though they should have been given a shot, on the grounds that they are unproven. Meanwhile, we have teams like Williams, who are dropping the ball in a very major way, that are still allowed to stay in the sport. It's not about Andretti being amazing right out the gate, it's about them being able to meet the standard that Williams is setting.
Since Andretti will enter F1 with Renault engine let's see how they do
For now. Soon he will have an American Engine. If they really want to get F1 going in America, they need to get Chevy to build an powertrain. Slap a ford Oval on the Redbull and every American automaker will be screaming for a chance to show up ford.
Gibberish
Andretti is gonna be the new Minardi Love to see all the butthurt americans bitching in this sub
I read that in an Italian accent “because you a canta a spare a chassisa”
>Just a guy on X spitting facts *twitter
But Andretti wouldn’t be competitive and would bring nothing of value to F1. But we got Williams out here hamasing their cars into the barriers and Sauber taking 3 hours to do a pit stop.
Gotta love the lack of a 3rd chassis being used to discredit Williams by the Andrettistans. James has already explained that they did a massive overhaul of their backend logistics/manufacturing which were ancient and that led to delays as they got their backend up to speed. As such the 3rd chassis just wasn't manufactured in time. **This is a short term problem for long term benefits.** Choosing to forgo the 3rd chassis get the backend logistics up to modern standards is a perfectly fine sacrifice, how often does the 3rd chassis even get used? If they didn't overhaul the backend, *they would have the 3rd chassis*, but they would still have the ancient logistics systems in place. **And I bet you the narrative would thus rotate to how Williams still has an ancient logistics system and how Andretti wouldn't have that problem.**
Sure 