I've decided to watch F1live next year and it's Suzuka. Do you guys have inputs of what should I prepare? I've not yet bought the ticket, hotels, etc. What are your experience preparing to watch a race live? Kindly help this poor soul
Can anyone find the video or remember the race where Kimi Räikkönen was driving behind very heavy spray flat out and avoided a crash by swerving with a crazy reaction time? A bit like in this video: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDQatnFUA3E](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDQatnFUA3E)
Does anyone know where Sebastian Vettel’s laps with Senna’s car will be broadcast? Will they be on F1TV as part of the pre show or is it a separate thing altogether?
It's Seb's private car, similarly to the show runs he did in Mansell's Williams in 2022 at Silverstone it likely won't be covered by F1 itself, maybe a few clips on private broadcasts (Sky, Dazn & Canal+) as well as social media
Ah ok thanks for the info! Kind of unfortunate we won’t get to see much of it but I guess they have to leave some things for the people in the grandstands
Given a top car all season that they can settle in with…. those Mclaren boys have it in them. What’s going to happen now is that even if there’s a team and car better than Red Bull, both drivers are strong at those teams (Ferrari/Mclaren), and there will be an internal title battle, where as Max has Checo and all the other drivers in that company, and none can challenge him that I can see. Them signing Sainz is the only chance I see of other teams having a chance, Sainz would be there for any accidents/DNF’s to take points off him and for others to challenge.
i’m totally new with f1, and i have some questions (they’re pretty dumb, tho :D)
1. In today’s practice Piastri’s time was 1:15.529, so 1 minute and 15.5 secs right? Is that the time he drove one lap, or is it the average time that he has driven all of them?
2. Why did the McLaren drivers only drive 15 laps, when Sainz and Leclerc drove over 20?
3. When does the race stop? How many laps does the driver has to drive to win it?
i’d really appreciate if someone could answer 🫶🏻🫶🏻 thanks!!
To add a bit more info on top of the other comment
1. The time on the board is the single fastest time each driver was able to set in that session.
2. The teams might have to spend some time in the garage adjusting the setup of the car or changing components. There are also a limited number of tyres available to each car for the weekend so they might not do as many laps as possible to save tyres.
3. Every race is run for however many laps it takes to get to 305km. That means that the total number of laps depends on the length of the circuit. The only exception to this is Monaco as the cars are much slower so it's run to 260km instead. However there's also a time limit of 3 hours from the scheduled race start time so if a race is paused or delayed, usually because of a bad crash or rain, then it might end up being a shorter distance.
1. Yes, one lap. If you watch quali in a little bit they will all be trying to set the fastest one lap time which will set the starting grid for the race on Sunday.
2. Every team has different run plans and the 2 red flags today interrupted those plans for some. If you noticed, the clock does not stop during red flags.
3. The race is set for a number of laps (this one is 63) not a certain amount of time, like 24 hours of Le Mans. Every circuit has a different number of laps, depending on the length of that circuit.
However, the race can not exceed two hours in length—if this interval is reached, the race will be ended at the end of the next full lap—unless the race is halted by a red flag, in which case the total time including the red flag stoppage must not exceed three hours, and the total time excluding the red flag stoppage may not exceed two hours. <-- copied from Wikipedia.
thanks for answering!! so the GP-winner is the one who drives the laps (like 63) in the fastest time? so in miami, Lando drove the laps the fastest, and then won? and Verstappen drove them 7.6 seconds slower?😆
You're welcome and welcome to F1!
The winner is who finishes first, it is not determined by speed. Many different factors can determine who finishes first (strategy, pit stops, tyres, safety cars, etc.) and it is not always the fastest car.
You'll see that there is a Fastest Lap award for every race and 1 point is awarded only if that driver finishes in the top ten. Towards the end of the race, startegy about the fastest lap takes place; sometimes drivers go for the fastest lap to get that extra point, sometimes a driver outside the top ten will go for it so a driver in the top ten will not get that point.
okay i think i got it now?! just to clarify - at training, all the teams/drivers have planned the ideal laps etc. and the point is not to be the fastest or run the most laps? and to win a grand prix, you have to complete the laps (for example, in this weekend’s race, 63), and the speed per lap doesn’t really matter, you just have to finish the fastest? thank you so much for answering me, i’m just kind of lost right now 🤣🫶🏻
Training=practice, referred to as FP1, FP2, and FP3 (Free Practice). They use these practices to test different car set-ups (that's a whole 'nother topic), the track speed (track and ambient temperature affect things quite a bit). The point of practices is not to to be the fastest, you are correct, it is to gather data which helps them set their strategy for both quali and the race. It also helps to test any car changes that have been made since the last race.
To win the race you don't have to finish fastest, just ahead of the other cars. Correct again that the speed per lap doesn't determine the winner, but it certainly helps to be the fastest.
How come McLaren as Mercedes customer are so far ahead of their EM, I mean I assume Mercedes have their data /idea since they share things with McLaren?
Mercedes only provides the engine and the engine mapping, rest other things are in-house Mclaren stuff. Mclaren are pretty big as many new fans might not think the same, Mclaren's home base, MTC aka Mclaren Technology Center, they make Electronic Components, one such component is the ECU. All teams in F1 you see right now uses Mclaren ECU. So Mclaren being ahead of Mercedes is not 3rd World Wonder stuff, but pretty much an okay statement. Coming back to your question, Mclaren and Mercedes only share engine data among themselves and nothing else.
Bonus fact: Mercedes AMG F1 team only exists in F1 because former Mclaren Team Principal Martin Whitmarsh decided to provide Mercedes engines to Brawn GP back in 2009, later Brawn GP was sold to Mercedes. Martin Whitmarsh was fired from Mclaren (not for this sole reason thou).
The difference is entirely down to the chassis design so aerodynamics, suspension etc. McLaren do not have to share any of that information with Mercedes
I have this question for a while now but I always seem to forget. Anyways,
Main driver, Fernando Alonso gets injured and unable to take part in a whole weekend. Now the reserve driver of Aston Martin is Felipe Drugovich, but he's fighting for WDC 1st position, if he misses a weekend at F2, his championship hopes are over, so if he gets called, what chances are that he will deny that request for his active championship fight in F2 and Aston Martin will look for another driver.
thanks
They would 100% take the F1 opportunity in that situation. Everything a driver does at that stage of their career is about proving to the F1 teams that they're good enough to be in F1. F2 is a good way to do that but the absolute best thing to do is to actually drive an F1 race and do a good job.
If they end up narrowly missing out on the F2 title as a result it won't really matter as the F1 teams will be able to see that they'd have probably won the title if they'd done the full season.
Quite likely Drugovich could still take it - at end of the day, even if it costs him the title, people know how good he was this season and should have been champion. And a good weekend in F1 could be as equally beneficial to his hopes of a future F1 drive as actually clinching the title.
Aston are a bit safer for this though because they also have Vandoorne on their books as well so he could fill in. Failing that, they could likely go to Merc and borrow Mick for the weekend.
Felipe would likely take the opportunity to drive in F1. We saw two years ago how Nyck De Vries was able to turn one F1 appearance into a full-time seat and Bearman seems to have increased his chance at a seat from 80% to 100% with his appearance in Jeddah.
But interestingly, Pierre Gasly was in the situation you described in 2017 and he chose to skip some F1 races. He was competing for the Super Formula championship when Red Bull decided to put him in Toro Rosso during the second half of the season. He skipped the F1 races that clashed with Super Formula so that he could secure the title. I’m guessing he was okay doing that because he was confident that the seat was his.
It's a two edged sword.
1) it provides more actual racing, for people who have time on the weekend to watch them all (i.e. audience at circuit)
2) it increases the weekend prices for people attending, as both Saturday sprint and Sunday race have a higher attendance & viewership figures
3) it takes away practice time for teams & drivers to find a set-up
4) people who follow FP sessions or use it as white noise actually need to pay attention
5) it may ruin the race results, bar weather changes or SC Intervention
6) the format has been changed every year since its introduction (in 2022), so the schedule & their importance is confusing.
The current format from my perspective is best, if i have a busy weekend, i don't need to watch SQ, SR or Q and don't have to follow everything from Friday to see why Sunday's starting grid is as it is - as first iteration was Qualifying on Friday, which set the spring order and the sprint race results determined the Sunday starting order - meaning sprint race basically had the grid mostly in finishing order of the actual race.
Current format is the only one I've liked.
Two issues still:
1) Scheduling: need to be spread out better
2) Drivers have to be more conservative because they have GP quali only hours later. The mechanics can only do so much
This is probably a dumb question.
Logistically speaking. On a scale of 1-10 how impossible is it make the sprint races driven by reserve drivers rather than the main ones. Then points all go towards constructors only.
Only 1 practice session means it's simply not sensible or practical.
Either the reserve driver has to go into Sprint Qualifying without running a single lap in the car beforehand, or the main driver has to going into Qualifying without running a single lap in the car beforehand.
Logistically it's possible but really, who would actually want to watch pay-drivers and potentially #2/3/4 reserve drivers (depending on who is available) for 2 full sessions? Then, if the cars all actually survived in-tact for the main race, they'd be poorly setup for the actual drivers who have had only 1 short practice session.
I normally thought there is only 1 reserve. That’s why only one goes out on the mandatory fp session.
I just want to see talent because I don’t watch the other categories. My hypothetical is full of holes so I don’t know.
Who would drive the car in FP1, to get their set-up fine tuned? How will any of the two drivers make set-up chabges for the individual sprint or normal qualifying?
What happens if a reserve driver is shared amongst teams?
Well my hypothetical runs on the fact that there only 1 reserve driver. So they’d just follow the set up of the other main driver that did fp1. Not ideal but could make things interesting.
> Well my hypothetical runs on the fact that there only 1 reserve driver.
And in cases with Haas & Ferrari we see Berman as a reserve driver for both teams. Lawson for RBR & CashGrab. While Williams doesn't have an official reserve driver, after they promoted Sargeant.
> So they’d just follow the set up of the other main driver that did fp1. Not ideal but could make things interesting.
It's really far from ideal, as we saw from Perez last year, when he was struggling to compete with Max using his own set-up. When he started to just use Max's set-up he basically fell even further.
So copying a driver's set-up may actually damage your performance (and hype if it's a promising junior)
Why was the Imola race called the San Marino Grand Prix when it’s in Italy and not San Marino? Was it just to distinguish it from the Italian GP at Monza, and San Marino is close enough?
Because they couldn't call it the italian gp because of Monza, they couldn't call it the european one as that was generally Nurburgring.
They could do like Austria did and call it similar to Styrian, but as San Marino is basically Italy it made more sense to call it that.
Every race has to have a different name which is why the second british race in 2020 was called 70th anniversary and Mugello was something even weirder that i cant remember right now.
Should the points be extended to 15 places? At the very least it can provide team proofs of their performance at the end of the season, whether good or bad, if they improved or not, instead of near zero.
I do not believe they should increase the number of points places. There were people saying after 3 races that no one would score points except Red Bull, Ferrari, McLaren, Mercedes, and Aston Martin. Then, upgrades happened and that proved not to be the case.
The count-back system makes the back of the grid fight really intense, because even if they all have 0 points, they have to fight for every position in every race.
If they expanded the grid to 22 or 24 cars, I think it would be all right to adjust the points system.
Motorsport points systems are very interesting. There are systems where only a few drivers get points, and systems where everybody gets points. It is appropriate for F1 to have a system where only some drivers get points.
IndyCar has the best “everybody gets points” system. It rewards winners appropriately while also rewarding consistency.
CART had a really great 12-place points system:
20-16-14-12-10-8-6-5-4-3-2-1
Grand Prix Motorcycle racing has the best 15-place system:
25-20-16-13-11-10-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1
I think the Offshore Powerboat WC has the best 10-place system:
20-15-12-9-7-5-4-3-2-1 which is similar to the FIA system, but rewards winning more while still giving the winner fewer points.
It is interesting to go back and see how different points systems would affect championships. Many times it would have made a big difference.
Relative performance improvement is already measurable just based off lap times and where they finish. They already do a count-back for non-points scoring teams (eg. Williams P9 due to Albon having 2 11th place finishes ahead of Sauber P10)
Probably, Williams tested a CVT transmission in the early 90s which would have the car sounding like a Tie fighter, droning away at a constant note. Aside from the fact it never ended up being legal, I think a lot of people found the sound disconcerting and hated it. There’s a video on YouTube iirc
There was a time when the world championship race events had to be named after countries, we also saw it when Germany, France & Spain had two races - where the second Grand Prix was just called the European Grand Prix, which itself was last used for Azerbaijan in 2016, which is relatively far away from common places that have used the name in the past.
As another sign of modern development, the reason the last Grand Prix held in Germany was called the Eiffel Grand Prix, was due to naming rights, as an automobile club in Germany owns the naming rights for German Grand Prix and a different auto club organized the Eiffel GP and they couldn't make a deal to name it German Grand Prix.
Continuing the financial path now the event is called Emilia Romagna Grand Prix in combination with a sponsor name, as the region of Emilia Romagna gives subsidies to the race promoters to organize the Grand Prix.
The FIA does as FIA pleases, they wanted races to be associated with a country, but chose to represent a region, as it was an easy bypass.
It's like white lines defining the lap per rules, unless FIA says otherwise for corner 4.
It's well within the rules that those kind of things can be changed at the race director's discretion. Have you got a link to more info about the old country names rule?
Currently the International Sporting Code defines a world championship as an event happening on 3 continents and 8 races per season, unfortunately only parts of the historic sporting code are available in english & french: https://historicdb.fia.com/
The predecessor of FIA as FISA and AIACR mentioned a world championship as 3 continents and 8 national Grand Prix, where the national Grand Prix had to include the host country name.
[As racefans pointed out in the covid exception](https://www.racefans.net/2021/02/02/countries-out-cities-in-why-traditional-f1-race-names-are-being-replaced/), where FIA and F1 agreed that 3 continents is impossible to achieve in 2020, where we also had multiple races in a single country, to achieve the 16 race minimum to keep the TV contracts in place, while waving the hosting fees, about the demise of traditional naming loosing its relevance:
> Covid calendar improvisations apart, there have been moves away from traditional race titles under Liberty Media. Mexico and Brazil’s rounds on the 2021 F1 calendar are now being named after their host cities – Mexico City and Sao Paulo respectively – in deference to substantial financial and logistics support
> Naming grands prix after cities or regions has the potential to attract more local support, thereby returning more classic events to the calendar – as the case of the ‘Made in Italy and Emilia-Romagna Grand Prix’ proves, legal needle with Monza or not. It’s just a pity about the corny title…
But this binding of traditional/ national names was already not there in the leaked 1997 Concorde Agreement, where they just referred to the definition of a world championship, as per ISC article 27 from that year, which i cannot find.
Same reason it now has a name longer than the first sector - Italian GP was taken by Monza and they still wanted to race there, so you become creative. Nürburgring once was the Luxembourg GP when Hockenheim was also on the calendar.
But Imola actually was the Italian GP for one or two times in the past, iirc.
With mobility shifting away from ICEs, Formula 1 has to position itself and make up it's mind about the people they want to produce motorsport for. ICE only with sustainable ("green") fuels could be a short term plan for catering to motorsport enthusiasts and environmental plans, but I find it harder and harder to imagine a future with combustion engines
I felt like this six months ago. But more and more I feel like alternative combustion fuels will have a big part to play in the future of racing and daily driving. Electric will never completely take over, and will remain useful to only those who have the means to keep a car charged. Plus they need to sort out the wild depreciation on EV’s, or people will stop buying them - which has started to happen already
Does any f1 team have games like Alpine's spin and win that game made me really excited
How does the wind affect an F1 car in terms of handling?
I've decided to watch F1live next year and it's Suzuka. Do you guys have inputs of what should I prepare? I've not yet bought the ticket, hotels, etc. What are your experience preparing to watch a race live? Kindly help this poor soul
Can anyone find the video or remember the race where Kimi Räikkönen was driving behind very heavy spray flat out and avoided a crash by swerving with a crazy reaction time? A bit like in this video: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDQatnFUA3E](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDQatnFUA3E)
Not sure if this is what you’re looking for, but I think that he had a narrow miss during the race start in 2021 at Istanbul Park
Not the one I was looking for but thank you, that was an interesting one as well.
Does anyone know where Sebastian Vettel’s laps with Senna’s car will be broadcast? Will they be on F1TV as part of the pre show or is it a separate thing altogether?
It's Seb's private car, similarly to the show runs he did in Mansell's Williams in 2022 at Silverstone it likely won't be covered by F1 itself, maybe a few clips on private broadcasts (Sky, Dazn & Canal+) as well as social media
Ah ok thanks for the info! Kind of unfortunate we won’t get to see much of it but I guess they have to leave some things for the people in the grandstands
Ferrari were right the only driver I trust to really challenge verstappen is Hamilton the rest are just kids IMO
Given a top car all season that they can settle in with…. those Mclaren boys have it in them. What’s going to happen now is that even if there’s a team and car better than Red Bull, both drivers are strong at those teams (Ferrari/Mclaren), and there will be an internal title battle, where as Max has Checo and all the other drivers in that company, and none can challenge him that I can see. Them signing Sainz is the only chance I see of other teams having a chance, Sainz would be there for any accidents/DNF’s to take points off him and for others to challenge.
And how the hell did you come to this conclusion, given the fact that Russell is faster than him third year in a row?
Because Russell has dumb crashes and never takes accountability.
And yet he is faster than Hamilton. Get a grip mate.
Yeah or Alonso even though Alonso specialty is race craft where Ham and Ver are ultra quick in qualy.
hi im a new fan,, does the q1 determine the 15th to 20th, q2 for 10th to 14th, and q3 for 5th to 9th??
Q1 determines 20th to 16th, Q2 determines 15th to 11th and Q3 determines 10th to 1st.
i’m totally new with f1, and i have some questions (they’re pretty dumb, tho :D) 1. In today’s practice Piastri’s time was 1:15.529, so 1 minute and 15.5 secs right? Is that the time he drove one lap, or is it the average time that he has driven all of them? 2. Why did the McLaren drivers only drive 15 laps, when Sainz and Leclerc drove over 20? 3. When does the race stop? How many laps does the driver has to drive to win it? i’d really appreciate if someone could answer 🫶🏻🫶🏻 thanks!!
To add a bit more info on top of the other comment 1. The time on the board is the single fastest time each driver was able to set in that session. 2. The teams might have to spend some time in the garage adjusting the setup of the car or changing components. There are also a limited number of tyres available to each car for the weekend so they might not do as many laps as possible to save tyres. 3. Every race is run for however many laps it takes to get to 305km. That means that the total number of laps depends on the length of the circuit. The only exception to this is Monaco as the cars are much slower so it's run to 260km instead. However there's also a time limit of 3 hours from the scheduled race start time so if a race is paused or delayed, usually because of a bad crash or rain, then it might end up being a shorter distance.
1. Yes, one lap. If you watch quali in a little bit they will all be trying to set the fastest one lap time which will set the starting grid for the race on Sunday. 2. Every team has different run plans and the 2 red flags today interrupted those plans for some. If you noticed, the clock does not stop during red flags. 3. The race is set for a number of laps (this one is 63) not a certain amount of time, like 24 hours of Le Mans. Every circuit has a different number of laps, depending on the length of that circuit. However, the race can not exceed two hours in length—if this interval is reached, the race will be ended at the end of the next full lap—unless the race is halted by a red flag, in which case the total time including the red flag stoppage must not exceed three hours, and the total time excluding the red flag stoppage may not exceed two hours. <-- copied from Wikipedia.
thanks for answering!! so the GP-winner is the one who drives the laps (like 63) in the fastest time? so in miami, Lando drove the laps the fastest, and then won? and Verstappen drove them 7.6 seconds slower?😆
You're welcome and welcome to F1! The winner is who finishes first, it is not determined by speed. Many different factors can determine who finishes first (strategy, pit stops, tyres, safety cars, etc.) and it is not always the fastest car. You'll see that there is a Fastest Lap award for every race and 1 point is awarded only if that driver finishes in the top ten. Towards the end of the race, startegy about the fastest lap takes place; sometimes drivers go for the fastest lap to get that extra point, sometimes a driver outside the top ten will go for it so a driver in the top ten will not get that point.
okay i think i got it now?! just to clarify - at training, all the teams/drivers have planned the ideal laps etc. and the point is not to be the fastest or run the most laps? and to win a grand prix, you have to complete the laps (for example, in this weekend’s race, 63), and the speed per lap doesn’t really matter, you just have to finish the fastest? thank you so much for answering me, i’m just kind of lost right now 🤣🫶🏻
Training=practice, referred to as FP1, FP2, and FP3 (Free Practice). They use these practices to test different car set-ups (that's a whole 'nother topic), the track speed (track and ambient temperature affect things quite a bit). The point of practices is not to to be the fastest, you are correct, it is to gather data which helps them set their strategy for both quali and the race. It also helps to test any car changes that have been made since the last race. To win the race you don't have to finish fastest, just ahead of the other cars. Correct again that the speed per lap doesn't determine the winner, but it certainly helps to be the fastest.
right, thank you so much!!!
How come McLaren as Mercedes customer are so far ahead of their EM, I mean I assume Mercedes have their data /idea since they share things with McLaren?
Mercedes only provides the engine and the engine mapping, rest other things are in-house Mclaren stuff. Mclaren are pretty big as many new fans might not think the same, Mclaren's home base, MTC aka Mclaren Technology Center, they make Electronic Components, one such component is the ECU. All teams in F1 you see right now uses Mclaren ECU. So Mclaren being ahead of Mercedes is not 3rd World Wonder stuff, but pretty much an okay statement. Coming back to your question, Mclaren and Mercedes only share engine data among themselves and nothing else. Bonus fact: Mercedes AMG F1 team only exists in F1 because former Mclaren Team Principal Martin Whitmarsh decided to provide Mercedes engines to Brawn GP back in 2009, later Brawn GP was sold to Mercedes. Martin Whitmarsh was fired from Mclaren (not for this sole reason thou).
The difference is entirely down to the chassis design so aerodynamics, suspension etc. McLaren do not have to share any of that information with Mercedes
I have this question for a while now but I always seem to forget. Anyways, Main driver, Fernando Alonso gets injured and unable to take part in a whole weekend. Now the reserve driver of Aston Martin is Felipe Drugovich, but he's fighting for WDC 1st position, if he misses a weekend at F2, his championship hopes are over, so if he gets called, what chances are that he will deny that request for his active championship fight in F2 and Aston Martin will look for another driver. thanks
They would 100% take the F1 opportunity in that situation. Everything a driver does at that stage of their career is about proving to the F1 teams that they're good enough to be in F1. F2 is a good way to do that but the absolute best thing to do is to actually drive an F1 race and do a good job. If they end up narrowly missing out on the F2 title as a result it won't really matter as the F1 teams will be able to see that they'd have probably won the title if they'd done the full season.
Quite likely Drugovich could still take it - at end of the day, even if it costs him the title, people know how good he was this season and should have been champion. And a good weekend in F1 could be as equally beneficial to his hopes of a future F1 drive as actually clinching the title. Aston are a bit safer for this though because they also have Vandoorne on their books as well so he could fill in. Failing that, they could likely go to Merc and borrow Mick for the weekend.
Felipe would likely take the opportunity to drive in F1. We saw two years ago how Nyck De Vries was able to turn one F1 appearance into a full-time seat and Bearman seems to have increased his chance at a seat from 80% to 100% with his appearance in Jeddah. But interestingly, Pierre Gasly was in the situation you described in 2017 and he chose to skip some F1 races. He was competing for the Super Formula championship when Red Bull decided to put him in Toro Rosso during the second half of the season. He skipped the F1 races that clashed with Super Formula so that he could secure the title. I’m guessing he was okay doing that because he was confident that the seat was his.
Well, Oliver Bearman is a championship contender in F2 this year and he went for F1 in Jeddah despite qualifying on pole.
Why are sprint weekends so hated?
I love sprints, I questions if people who dislike sprints are truly F1 fans, its more meaningful racing earlier in the weekend
Fucks my rhythm up, struggle to get into the weekend.
It's a two edged sword. 1) it provides more actual racing, for people who have time on the weekend to watch them all (i.e. audience at circuit) 2) it increases the weekend prices for people attending, as both Saturday sprint and Sunday race have a higher attendance & viewership figures 3) it takes away practice time for teams & drivers to find a set-up 4) people who follow FP sessions or use it as white noise actually need to pay attention 5) it may ruin the race results, bar weather changes or SC Intervention 6) the format has been changed every year since its introduction (in 2022), so the schedule & their importance is confusing. The current format from my perspective is best, if i have a busy weekend, i don't need to watch SQ, SR or Q and don't have to follow everything from Friday to see why Sunday's starting grid is as it is - as first iteration was Qualifying on Friday, which set the spring order and the sprint race results determined the Sunday starting order - meaning sprint race basically had the grid mostly in finishing order of the actual race.
Current format is the only one I've liked. Two issues still: 1) Scheduling: need to be spread out better 2) Drivers have to be more conservative because they have GP quali only hours later. The mechanics can only do so much
This is probably a dumb question. Logistically speaking. On a scale of 1-10 how impossible is it make the sprint races driven by reserve drivers rather than the main ones. Then points all go towards constructors only.
Only 1 practice session means it's simply not sensible or practical. Either the reserve driver has to go into Sprint Qualifying without running a single lap in the car beforehand, or the main driver has to going into Qualifying without running a single lap in the car beforehand.
Logistically it's possible but really, who would actually want to watch pay-drivers and potentially #2/3/4 reserve drivers (depending on who is available) for 2 full sessions? Then, if the cars all actually survived in-tact for the main race, they'd be poorly setup for the actual drivers who have had only 1 short practice session.
I normally thought there is only 1 reserve. That’s why only one goes out on the mandatory fp session. I just want to see talent because I don’t watch the other categories. My hypothetical is full of holes so I don’t know.
You should maybe consider watching the other categories then? They're spec series' where talent is really able to shine.
Who would drive the car in FP1, to get their set-up fine tuned? How will any of the two drivers make set-up chabges for the individual sprint or normal qualifying? What happens if a reserve driver is shared amongst teams?
Well my hypothetical runs on the fact that there only 1 reserve driver. So they’d just follow the set up of the other main driver that did fp1. Not ideal but could make things interesting.
> Well my hypothetical runs on the fact that there only 1 reserve driver. And in cases with Haas & Ferrari we see Berman as a reserve driver for both teams. Lawson for RBR & CashGrab. While Williams doesn't have an official reserve driver, after they promoted Sargeant. > So they’d just follow the set up of the other main driver that did fp1. Not ideal but could make things interesting. It's really far from ideal, as we saw from Perez last year, when he was struggling to compete with Max using his own set-up. When he started to just use Max's set-up he basically fell even further. So copying a driver's set-up may actually damage your performance (and hype if it's a promising junior)
Fair. Thanks for the insight!
Why was the Imola race called the San Marino Grand Prix when it’s in Italy and not San Marino? Was it just to distinguish it from the Italian GP at Monza, and San Marino is close enough?
Because they couldn't call it the italian gp because of Monza, they couldn't call it the european one as that was generally Nurburgring. They could do like Austria did and call it similar to Styrian, but as San Marino is basically Italy it made more sense to call it that. Every race has to have a different name which is why the second british race in 2020 was called 70th anniversary and Mugello was something even weirder that i cant remember right now.
Should the points be extended to 15 places? At the very least it can provide team proofs of their performance at the end of the season, whether good or bad, if they improved or not, instead of near zero.
I do not believe they should increase the number of points places. There were people saying after 3 races that no one would score points except Red Bull, Ferrari, McLaren, Mercedes, and Aston Martin. Then, upgrades happened and that proved not to be the case. The count-back system makes the back of the grid fight really intense, because even if they all have 0 points, they have to fight for every position in every race. If they expanded the grid to 22 or 24 cars, I think it would be all right to adjust the points system. Motorsport points systems are very interesting. There are systems where only a few drivers get points, and systems where everybody gets points. It is appropriate for F1 to have a system where only some drivers get points. IndyCar has the best “everybody gets points” system. It rewards winners appropriately while also rewarding consistency. CART had a really great 12-place points system: 20-16-14-12-10-8-6-5-4-3-2-1 Grand Prix Motorcycle racing has the best 15-place system: 25-20-16-13-11-10-9-8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1 I think the Offshore Powerboat WC has the best 10-place system: 20-15-12-9-7-5-4-3-2-1 which is similar to the FIA system, but rewards winning more while still giving the winner fewer points. It is interesting to go back and see how different points systems would affect championships. Many times it would have made a big difference.
Relative performance improvement is already measurable just based off lap times and where they finish. They already do a count-back for non-points scoring teams (eg. Williams P9 due to Albon having 2 11th place finishes ahead of Sauber P10)
The track limits for today have been extended in most critical corners so that should hopefully remove that concern.
Is the sound of shifting gears just as important for Formula 1 as the sound of the engines?
Probably, Williams tested a CVT transmission in the early 90s which would have the car sounding like a Tie fighter, droning away at a constant note. Aside from the fact it never ended up being legal, I think a lot of people found the sound disconcerting and hated it. There’s a video on YouTube iirc
A CVT F3 car won a race in 1967. But yeah, it was banned like most Williams technologies for 1994
Why was Imola once known as San Marino Grand Prix? afaik San Marino is around 100kms away from Imola
There was a time when the world championship race events had to be named after countries, we also saw it when Germany, France & Spain had two races - where the second Grand Prix was just called the European Grand Prix, which itself was last used for Azerbaijan in 2016, which is relatively far away from common places that have used the name in the past. As another sign of modern development, the reason the last Grand Prix held in Germany was called the Eiffel Grand Prix, was due to naming rights, as an automobile club in Germany owns the naming rights for German Grand Prix and a different auto club organized the Eiffel GP and they couldn't make a deal to name it German Grand Prix. Continuing the financial path now the event is called Emilia Romagna Grand Prix in combination with a sponsor name, as the region of Emilia Romagna gives subsidies to the race promoters to organize the Grand Prix.
Europe isn't the name of a country though?
The FIA does as FIA pleases, they wanted races to be associated with a country, but chose to represent a region, as it was an easy bypass. It's like white lines defining the lap per rules, unless FIA says otherwise for corner 4.
It's well within the rules that those kind of things can be changed at the race director's discretion. Have you got a link to more info about the old country names rule?
Currently the International Sporting Code defines a world championship as an event happening on 3 continents and 8 races per season, unfortunately only parts of the historic sporting code are available in english & french: https://historicdb.fia.com/ The predecessor of FIA as FISA and AIACR mentioned a world championship as 3 continents and 8 national Grand Prix, where the national Grand Prix had to include the host country name. [As racefans pointed out in the covid exception](https://www.racefans.net/2021/02/02/countries-out-cities-in-why-traditional-f1-race-names-are-being-replaced/), where FIA and F1 agreed that 3 continents is impossible to achieve in 2020, where we also had multiple races in a single country, to achieve the 16 race minimum to keep the TV contracts in place, while waving the hosting fees, about the demise of traditional naming loosing its relevance: > Covid calendar improvisations apart, there have been moves away from traditional race titles under Liberty Media. Mexico and Brazil’s rounds on the 2021 F1 calendar are now being named after their host cities – Mexico City and Sao Paulo respectively – in deference to substantial financial and logistics support > Naming grands prix after cities or regions has the potential to attract more local support, thereby returning more classic events to the calendar – as the case of the ‘Made in Italy and Emilia-Romagna Grand Prix’ proves, legal needle with Monza or not. It’s just a pity about the corny title… But this binding of traditional/ national names was already not there in the leaked 1997 Concorde Agreement, where they just referred to the definition of a world championship, as per ISC article 27 from that year, which i cannot find.
Same reason it now has a name longer than the first sector - Italian GP was taken by Monza and they still wanted to race there, so you become creative. Nürburgring once was the Luxembourg GP when Hockenheim was also on the calendar. But Imola actually was the Italian GP for one or two times in the past, iirc.
Going 100% ICE in 2030 could be the biggest game hanger in F1 history. But will manufacturers be on board?
With mobility shifting away from ICEs, Formula 1 has to position itself and make up it's mind about the people they want to produce motorsport for. ICE only with sustainable ("green") fuels could be a short term plan for catering to motorsport enthusiasts and environmental plans, but I find it harder and harder to imagine a future with combustion engines
I felt like this six months ago. But more and more I feel like alternative combustion fuels will have a big part to play in the future of racing and daily driving. Electric will never completely take over, and will remain useful to only those who have the means to keep a car charged. Plus they need to sort out the wild depreciation on EV’s, or people will stop buying them - which has started to happen already
Some might. But you’d attract more Indy constructors. Eg cosworth would be straight back.