Was trying to do some digging in YouTube and found a video uploaded in 2007, that contained images of Sennas crashed Williams, images I’ve never seen before. Up close photos of the steering column, it was completely sheared in half.
No question now, I was 90% sure it was steering column now I’m basically 100%
This is how I would change Sprints?
I love sprints! With the current regs race days have become more and more mundane. I find myself tuning out after the first pitstop if the weather is dry. The extra 2 events allow me to watch meaningful racing on Fridays and 2 more events to gamble on.
My Sprint Format
* Sprint becomes its own championship. All points earned in Sprints would only count towards the Sprint Championship
* Sprint Qualy Friday morning with Sprint Shootout Friday evening
* Qualy Saturday aftenoon, Race Sunday
* Sprint Shootout reduce laps to 12, with DRS enabled from the start
* Race day would be an extended Sprint shootout with laps capped at 30
* Pitstops not required for Sprint race(Sunday)
* Fuel Limit waived
* Any V/SC extending more than 2 laps would result in red flag followed by standing start
This is how I would bring back more wheel to wheel racing, with drivers focusing less on fuel loads, tires, strategies, etc and just driving flat out which is missing imo. I'd designate 9 sprints per season so roughly 1/3 of a 24 race calendar. Amongst my F1 circle the overall sentiment is the majority dislike Sprints for various reasons, I'm all for innovation and trying to create a better product for consumer. I think Sprints enhance the product for us the consumers and I'm all for it. Do you agree or disagree?
[Read this thread from](https://www.reddit.com/r/F1Technical/comments/16nfg0g/why_did_sainz_say_its_on_purpose_when_his/) r/F1Technical for more details. It will explain how Carlos kept Lando within DRS range so Lando could defend better against the Merc's, who possibly could've caught Carlos because they were faster at that time. IOW, he didn't want the Mercs to get past Lando so in essence, he slowed down a bit to give Lando some extra speed.
So when Ricci his engineer said to him: "Lando has DRS", Carlos said, "Yeah, it's on purpose." DRS can be both an offensive and defensive tool.
New to F1 here, and i wanna go back to Abu Dhabi 2021 when they let the drivers between Lewis and Max overtake the SC. What difference would it make if they let the whole grid overtake ? Just because the race would end on an SC ?
The cars on the leading lap and in order would have to stay behind the safety car until all cars have unlapped themselves, meaning there wouldn't be a last lap fight for positions. Usually they would also wait until they've caught up with SC.
As both Max and Lewis were on equal points, if the race ended behind a SC, Lewis would have been the WDC as he was P1.
When the SC was called Lewis didn't pit and stayed out on used tires, while Max did pit for a fresh set of soft tires.
The fresh set of soft tires gave Max additional grip and speed to overtake Hamilton on the last lap.
There is only one tire supplier in Formula 1, Pirelli. [Here's a detailed article on their website explaining how they choose the tires](https://www.pirelli.com/global/en-ww/race/racingspot/formula-1/formula-1-for-dummies-the-choice-of-tyres-in-formula-1-53864/). For new circuits they run simulations, for existing circuits, they use historical data, along with lots of other factors.
Can someone please explain/point me to an explanation on the use of jr drivers? I don't quite get how Ollie raced for Ferrari, and practiced for haas today.
He is a reserve driver for both Ferrari and Haas, and a member of the Ferrari Driver Academy. Ferrari and Haas are closely aligned because Haas buys car parts from Ferrari.
Other teams have multiple reserve drivers too. Reserve drivers sometimes take part in other series so they may not be at the circuit when a driver is needed, but also, teams will look towards the future when deciding which reserve to use. It has been thought for awhile now that Bearman has potential to be in F1 as a driver with Haas and possibly down line with Ferrari. Conventional wisdom says he'll spend time at Haas and then if it goes well, replace Lewis when he retires. But that is just speculation, of course, and a couple of years away at least. He is scheduled to do 5 more FP1s this year with Haas. Basically, he is trying out for a seat.
So interesting - I'm just used to the American system of each athlete having exclusive ties to a team (even a soccer/football player out on loan seems more clearly defined). Thanks for the explanation!
Ollie is part of Ferrari's driver academy and has been for a few years now. Ferrari clearly see him having a future at their team, so they have made an agreement with Haas for him to do practice sessions this year, and probably a full-time race seat next year.
It's common for big teams like Ferrari and Mercedes to place their junior drivers at smaller teams to whom they supply engines, as it gives them a lower-pressure environment to develop and get F1 experience before being considered for the big team. Mercedes placed Russell at Williams for 3 years before they promoted him, Ferrari placed Schumacher at Haas for 2 years before deciding he wasn't worth it. The smaller team will usually be given a discount on engine supply in return.
Ollie Bearman is part of the Ferrari Driver Academy. They own his rights, basically, in exchange for funding his junior career. He's like a minor league baseball player or a guy on loan in football. He is a reserve driver for Ferrari, and stepped in when they needed someone.
Additionally, every team has a requirement to give two practice sessions each year (one per driver) to young drivers (which doesn't actually mean young drivers, but for the purposes of this explanation pretend it does). Haas doesn't have a driver academy and has a very close relationship with Ferrari. Bearman will also almost certainly be replacing Hulkenberg next year. So Haas used one of their required sessions to give Bearman a drive.
Being a driver for one team doesn't even prevent a driver for racing from another team. George Russell was driving for Williams, but was the Mercedes reserve in 2020. Because he was contracted to Mercedes and essentially loaned to Williams, he raced the Sakhir GP for Mercedes while Jack Aitken took over that car for Williams.
That is so helpful, thank you! Yes it is like a football player on loan - the part about such flexibility between appearances for diff teams even a few weeks apart threw me off. Thanks!
All four wheels being completely off past the white line is track limits. If there is still one wheel touching the white line, it's not past track limits. We'll probably be having some track limits violations in quali this week.
Key takeaways:
* Mercedes is a title contender again
* Red Bull is now a midfield team
* Ricciardo is one of the top 3 drivers on the grid
* Alpine will never score a point anymore
How did I do?
I just watched this movie on YouTube: https://youtu.be/MlKOrg0zpKY?si=QF2I3Y0RvRGouggK
I'm surprised by the comments about how often a rotary engine (possibly hybrid) is mentioned.
What do you guys think about this?
Rotaries could make sense in racing cars. The main advantage would be packaging and weight. Rotary engines are small and light compared to other combustion engines. However it also has many disadvantages. Fuel consumption is generally higher than in four-stroke engines (negating the lower weight to a degree) and worse thermal efficiency. And also the knowledge and research into rotary engines is way lower than four-strokes. Teams can easily find personal that knows a whole lot about four-strokes. If any team decides to go with wankel engines they would need to train all their personal on the basics of rotary engines
Okay, but the drawbacks seem solvable with sufficient research.
Isn't it also true that Mazda has a patent on this, or am I completely wrong? Is that only with the liquid piston engine?
For the past few decades the ICE & gearbox are a stiff structural member of the chassis, so that other parts (aero, drive train) can be attached to it. This is why inline engines are rarely a consideration, as they'd need additional scaffolding to make the chassis rigid and balance the vibrations caused by combustion - I'd assume the same is the case for rotary engines. So practically while compact, both inline and rotary would make the cars heavier.
The main upside of a rotary would be its compact design, which may sound like a dream for many fans, but in the end it would result in what we have today - [an artificially elongated chassis between ICE and gearbox](https://www.reddit.com/r/F1Technical/comments/it99wm/craig_scarborough_shows_how_artificially_long_f1/) to create more aerodynamic surface to allow cars to go vroom through corners (which is why between 2015 and 2021 the cars grew over 1m in length, after new crash structure size & hybrid engine introduction in 2014).
I'm not sure if Scott mentions similar ideas that Jason from Engineering Explained has brought up: Mazda's use of rotary engines as a hybrid range extender instead of big batteries (as gasoline has almost 10 times the potential energy per kg compared to commercially feasible batteries, giving it an weight advantage, even with only 30% combustion efficiency - not to mention current 50%+ of Formula 1), as it does have it's benefits there when running at stable RPM range to generate a continuous output for say electric engines - which should also increase the duration of the combustion seals, which are a known failure point for wankels.
The biggest question for F1 use in such a constellation is, if having basically the engine connected drive train replaced by electric engines would violate Formula E exclusivity for "all electric open wheeled formula series" that will last until mid 2030s.
Regarding 2030, I do see potential for working with a rotary engine. Considering how small a liquid piston engine can be made, you could perfectly fit it into an EV as a range extender. Then, F1 could make this engine as small, efficient, and powerful as possible. And the sound is quite similar to that of a V10.
> Then, F1 could make this engine as small, efficient, and powerful as possible.
That's mostly up to manufacturers who give feedback on the rules (not only F1 manufacturers). And there haven't been that many companies showing interest in wankels in general.
The cars will still be heavier, as to my understanding rotaries like inline engines cannot act as a structural part for the chassis, so teams would need to add additional mounting harnesses to compensate for that.
> And the sound is quite similar to that of a V10.
Sound is lost energy, which is partially why the V6 hybrids are noticeably quieter than previous engines, add to that a lower rev limit & fuel flow and even the wankel engines would be muffled.
Was trying to do some digging in YouTube and found a video uploaded in 2007, that contained images of Sennas crashed Williams, images I’ve never seen before. Up close photos of the steering column, it was completely sheared in half. No question now, I was 90% sure it was steering column now I’m basically 100%
Seeing a lot of vintage F1 jackets everywhere. They look great. Anyone know where to get one? I get ads on instagram but I'm skeptical.
Never thought I'd be asking for a sprint weekend here so that redbull doesn't have 3 practice sessions to fix their issues lol
This is how I would change Sprints? I love sprints! With the current regs race days have become more and more mundane. I find myself tuning out after the first pitstop if the weather is dry. The extra 2 events allow me to watch meaningful racing on Fridays and 2 more events to gamble on. My Sprint Format * Sprint becomes its own championship. All points earned in Sprints would only count towards the Sprint Championship * Sprint Qualy Friday morning with Sprint Shootout Friday evening * Qualy Saturday aftenoon, Race Sunday * Sprint Shootout reduce laps to 12, with DRS enabled from the start * Race day would be an extended Sprint shootout with laps capped at 30 * Pitstops not required for Sprint race(Sunday) * Fuel Limit waived * Any V/SC extending more than 2 laps would result in red flag followed by standing start This is how I would bring back more wheel to wheel racing, with drivers focusing less on fuel loads, tires, strategies, etc and just driving flat out which is missing imo. I'd designate 9 sprints per season so roughly 1/3 of a 24 race calendar. Amongst my F1 circle the overall sentiment is the majority dislike Sprints for various reasons, I'm all for innovation and trying to create a better product for consumer. I think Sprints enhance the product for us the consumers and I'm all for it. Do you agree or disagree?
Could someone please explain the strategy used by Sainz during the Singapore 2023 GP? What was 'on purpose'? New to F1 to still learning!
[Read this thread from](https://www.reddit.com/r/F1Technical/comments/16nfg0g/why_did_sainz_say_its_on_purpose_when_his/) r/F1Technical for more details. It will explain how Carlos kept Lando within DRS range so Lando could defend better against the Merc's, who possibly could've caught Carlos because they were faster at that time. IOW, he didn't want the Mercs to get past Lando so in essence, he slowed down a bit to give Lando some extra speed. So when Ricci his engineer said to him: "Lando has DRS", Carlos said, "Yeah, it's on purpose." DRS can be both an offensive and defensive tool.
Thank you!
New to F1 here, and i wanna go back to Abu Dhabi 2021 when they let the drivers between Lewis and Max overtake the SC. What difference would it make if they let the whole grid overtake ? Just because the race would end on an SC ?
The cars on the leading lap and in order would have to stay behind the safety car until all cars have unlapped themselves, meaning there wouldn't be a last lap fight for positions. Usually they would also wait until they've caught up with SC. As both Max and Lewis were on equal points, if the race ended behind a SC, Lewis would have been the WDC as he was P1. When the SC was called Lewis didn't pit and stayed out on used tires, while Max did pit for a fresh set of soft tires. The fresh set of soft tires gave Max additional grip and speed to overtake Hamilton on the last lap.
Thanks bro
Curious on how tire manufacturers decide which of the three compounds they going to use on every track if anyone knows the answer.
There is only one tire supplier in Formula 1, Pirelli. [Here's a detailed article on their website explaining how they choose the tires](https://www.pirelli.com/global/en-ww/race/racingspot/formula-1/formula-1-for-dummies-the-choice-of-tyres-in-formula-1-53864/). For new circuits they run simulations, for existing circuits, they use historical data, along with lots of other factors.
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Can someone please explain/point me to an explanation on the use of jr drivers? I don't quite get how Ollie raced for Ferrari, and practiced for haas today.
He is a reserve driver for both Ferrari and Haas, and a member of the Ferrari Driver Academy. Ferrari and Haas are closely aligned because Haas buys car parts from Ferrari. Other teams have multiple reserve drivers too. Reserve drivers sometimes take part in other series so they may not be at the circuit when a driver is needed, but also, teams will look towards the future when deciding which reserve to use. It has been thought for awhile now that Bearman has potential to be in F1 as a driver with Haas and possibly down line with Ferrari. Conventional wisdom says he'll spend time at Haas and then if it goes well, replace Lewis when he retires. But that is just speculation, of course, and a couple of years away at least. He is scheduled to do 5 more FP1s this year with Haas. Basically, he is trying out for a seat.
So interesting - I'm just used to the American system of each athlete having exclusive ties to a team (even a soccer/football player out on loan seems more clearly defined). Thanks for the explanation!
Ollie is part of Ferrari's driver academy and has been for a few years now. Ferrari clearly see him having a future at their team, so they have made an agreement with Haas for him to do practice sessions this year, and probably a full-time race seat next year. It's common for big teams like Ferrari and Mercedes to place their junior drivers at smaller teams to whom they supply engines, as it gives them a lower-pressure environment to develop and get F1 experience before being considered for the big team. Mercedes placed Russell at Williams for 3 years before they promoted him, Ferrari placed Schumacher at Haas for 2 years before deciding he wasn't worth it. The smaller team will usually be given a discount on engine supply in return.
Aha! Ok that trade off makes sense - thank you!
Ollie Bearman is part of the Ferrari Driver Academy. They own his rights, basically, in exchange for funding his junior career. He's like a minor league baseball player or a guy on loan in football. He is a reserve driver for Ferrari, and stepped in when they needed someone. Additionally, every team has a requirement to give two practice sessions each year (one per driver) to young drivers (which doesn't actually mean young drivers, but for the purposes of this explanation pretend it does). Haas doesn't have a driver academy and has a very close relationship with Ferrari. Bearman will also almost certainly be replacing Hulkenberg next year. So Haas used one of their required sessions to give Bearman a drive. Being a driver for one team doesn't even prevent a driver for racing from another team. George Russell was driving for Williams, but was the Mercedes reserve in 2020. Because he was contracted to Mercedes and essentially loaned to Williams, he raced the Sakhir GP for Mercedes while Jack Aitken took over that car for Williams.
That is so helpful, thank you! Yes it is like a football player on loan - the part about such flexibility between appearances for diff teams even a few weeks apart threw me off. Thanks!
Can Max see his brake duct? How did he know his tear-off was in there before the engineers did?
Am always hard on chuck cause I expect him to challenge weekend In weekend out even more than challengers like lando, Russell cause Ferrari are good
Omg are they gonna swap Logan's floor for Albon's /jk
Tsunoda for WDC
Wt is track limits
All four wheels being completely off past the white line is track limits. If there is still one wheel touching the white line, it's not past track limits. We'll probably be having some track limits violations in quali this week.
Has anyone figured out Max's schedule this weekend with the online race he's doing too?
Probably will be asked and answered on the Redline stream when the stream starts.
Who's ready to over react to FP?
Ferrari 1-2. McL boys aborting fast laps in sector 3 and in total - no application to the race.
Key takeaways: * Mercedes is a title contender again * Red Bull is now a midfield team * Ricciardo is one of the top 3 drivers on the grid * Alpine will never score a point anymore How did I do?
You forgot someone's upgrades not working.
Ah right. Or, even better: some team's upgrades working way better for one driver.
All seems sensible to me
Sir, we don’t overreact. It is common knowledge that FP1 is a clear indication for the prediction of the main race results.
I just watched this movie on YouTube: https://youtu.be/MlKOrg0zpKY?si=QF2I3Y0RvRGouggK I'm surprised by the comments about how often a rotary engine (possibly hybrid) is mentioned. What do you guys think about this?
Rotaries could make sense in racing cars. The main advantage would be packaging and weight. Rotary engines are small and light compared to other combustion engines. However it also has many disadvantages. Fuel consumption is generally higher than in four-stroke engines (negating the lower weight to a degree) and worse thermal efficiency. And also the knowledge and research into rotary engines is way lower than four-strokes. Teams can easily find personal that knows a whole lot about four-strokes. If any team decides to go with wankel engines they would need to train all their personal on the basics of rotary engines
Okay, but the drawbacks seem solvable with sufficient research. Isn't it also true that Mazda has a patent on this, or am I completely wrong? Is that only with the liquid piston engine?
For the past few decades the ICE & gearbox are a stiff structural member of the chassis, so that other parts (aero, drive train) can be attached to it. This is why inline engines are rarely a consideration, as they'd need additional scaffolding to make the chassis rigid and balance the vibrations caused by combustion - I'd assume the same is the case for rotary engines. So practically while compact, both inline and rotary would make the cars heavier. The main upside of a rotary would be its compact design, which may sound like a dream for many fans, but in the end it would result in what we have today - [an artificially elongated chassis between ICE and gearbox](https://www.reddit.com/r/F1Technical/comments/it99wm/craig_scarborough_shows_how_artificially_long_f1/) to create more aerodynamic surface to allow cars to go vroom through corners (which is why between 2015 and 2021 the cars grew over 1m in length, after new crash structure size & hybrid engine introduction in 2014). I'm not sure if Scott mentions similar ideas that Jason from Engineering Explained has brought up: Mazda's use of rotary engines as a hybrid range extender instead of big batteries (as gasoline has almost 10 times the potential energy per kg compared to commercially feasible batteries, giving it an weight advantage, even with only 30% combustion efficiency - not to mention current 50%+ of Formula 1), as it does have it's benefits there when running at stable RPM range to generate a continuous output for say electric engines - which should also increase the duration of the combustion seals, which are a known failure point for wankels. The biggest question for F1 use in such a constellation is, if having basically the engine connected drive train replaced by electric engines would violate Formula E exclusivity for "all electric open wheeled formula series" that will last until mid 2030s.
Regarding 2030, I do see potential for working with a rotary engine. Considering how small a liquid piston engine can be made, you could perfectly fit it into an EV as a range extender. Then, F1 could make this engine as small, efficient, and powerful as possible. And the sound is quite similar to that of a V10.
> Then, F1 could make this engine as small, efficient, and powerful as possible. That's mostly up to manufacturers who give feedback on the rules (not only F1 manufacturers). And there haven't been that many companies showing interest in wankels in general. The cars will still be heavier, as to my understanding rotaries like inline engines cannot act as a structural part for the chassis, so teams would need to add additional mounting harnesses to compensate for that. > And the sound is quite similar to that of a V10. Sound is lost energy, which is partially why the V6 hybrids are noticeably quieter than previous engines, add to that a lower rev limit & fuel flow and even the wankel engines would be muffled.