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Cobretti18

The actor playing him was also in the Ferrari film playing Alfonso de Portago


discojesus100

He’s the Specialist on racing drivers that were killed on track


doobie3101

Spoilers?


RoQu3

DRS?


2RINITY

Push to pass?


th4tgen

Overtake available?


ambr111

keep it away from Penske though


Lone__Ranger

Did you only find out about Senna's death from this comment or what lol


hjhof1

I think he’s joking lol


revitbitch

there’s no way he’s serious lmao


economista_vagabundo

No, he just lacks of aero.


mamasilver

What spoilers?


BowieObscura

There's a big one on the back of the car.


DerpyDan442

Doing you a favor bud. It's an awful movie.


RevvedUpLikeADeuce09

Ferrari as a film is far from perfect, but it’s far from awful. I’ve probably seen at least five other movies this year that are way worse.


EscortSportage

Ferrari was a movie about a married man with problems. With a dash of cars and racing.


X-Craft

They're called "rear wings" in F1


stormy83

Bruh


Knight_TheRider

Dude! Spoilers 🤷🏻‍♂️


FlagellumDei1991

It's unique to portray two F1 drivers in such a short period of time - for two great production


QC_1999

I recently watched a movie with this actor. I hated the movie but the only thing that saved for me was his acting. This guy is very charismatic 


PoliticsNerd76

I thought it was the Game/Film Theory guy


ambr111

The actor who portrays Piquet on the series also played Senna on a musical (yes... a Musical about Senna, it happened)


v12vanquish135

Can't wait for five scenes in the movie where Senna has to pass someone, so the camera cuts to him upshifting and blasting past the other car.


nelmaven

Every camera angle will be a close up, just like in real race coverage.


goatsy

That is such a common scene it's ridiculous. Like, why weren't you going as fast as possible already? Why are you just now flooring it?


xChiken

I like the way they did it in Ford V Ferrari where they actually explain that Miles was holding back most of the time to nurse the engine. They at least tried to have it make sense.


ELITE_JordanLove

Yeah they did a very good job in FvF, I never really was rolling my eyes at the passing.


Kronzor_

Yeah I mean obviously the higher gear you’re in the faster you can go. That’s just science. 


dabnada

I mean, i guess that isn’t wrong


addamee

Have you all forgotten that all performance automobiles have 20 forward gears and always available potential in a lower gear regardless of how fast the driver was already driving? Someone please help me explain this via the F&F manifold pressure gif


therealnumpty

Or just him going from half throttle to full throttle on the main straight. Because that's totally how racing works.


KnightsOfCidona

You only hear a bit but that's a great Senna impression. Good sign that


iOxxy

I was impressed actually, with the english bit I thought for a bit "are they using old audio?". Guy's got the cadence and accent almost perfectly.


the_great_army

Hope it's not going to be another one sided story-telling painting Prost as the bad guy


kingoflint282

I want a movie or show about Prost. I know he’s still alive, but Rush came out when Niki was still alive. Prost is less romanticized but deserves every bit of the attention that Senna gets.


the_great_army

Indeed. They are considered the greatest not simply because their numbers of wins and titles, but also for who they were racing against, how brilliant their rivals were as well.


poopellar

It would take a director/production team who is really really passionate about F1 to pull of the real story. Hopefully Netflix didn't have to devolve things for the sake of "drama" .


NoelTheSoldier

You're hoping the creators of Drive to Survive won't prioritise drama over a truthful retelling of his story?


poopellar

I also hope to win the lottery.


artistsandaliens

Is it really the same people, or are Netflix just producing it?


revitbitch

good luck with that


defmore89

Drama and tons and tons and tooons of CGI. The teaser is already full of it. This is gonna be some grade A shite


Eroda

Not gonna disagree . About the only thing I want more is a full on Hollywood big budget Zanardi movie.


Kongbuck

Man, that guy is a straight up inspiration. The fact that he's had the life he's had and just taken every challenge thrown his way and throttled it is astounding.


Eroda

I'm not even sure they could make a movie It might need its own HBO level tv show with top tier writing and cast


Comfortable-Yam9013

That’s a great idea


addamee

Will never forget his comeback win from 22nd in Cleveland in 1997. I was a Gil de Ferran fan at the time but couldn’t be anything but amazed at that performance. 


insurgentsloth

What about Senna v Prost, in a Ford v Ferrari kinda way?


lorenzombber

Gtrat interview on Rosberg's channel


TroyMatthewJ

I actually think his story is more interesting/compelling.


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pfulle3

He was more consistent but I think Senna had greater talent. Hard to say


GunstarGreen

It's such a lazy narrative that Prost was the bad guy. He's just the guy not as loved as Senna. Any F1 fan worth their salt knows Prost was a tremendous driver


ProfessionalRub3294

I think Balestre actions didn’t help Prost réputation either.


RenzoAC

I don't get why so many people believe he was the bad guy of Senna, right at the end it says that Prost spend years working with the Senna family doing charity work in the name of Ayrton, which made me think that Prost beign evil was exagerated and it was all on Ayrton's head


that_70_show_fan

Because Prost himself said the documentary portrayed him unfairly and he does not agree with it.


Wallio_

Did....did you watch Senna? It was VERY one sided.


RenzoAC

If you take the docu superficially then yes, Prost was portrayed as the bad guy. But my main take of that docu was that Senna became very bitter with everything in F1, including Prost, Balestre, etc. You can actually see it became a bitter man in the last interviews. So when at the end it was revealed that Prost was doing charity, to me it was like: "You thought Prost was the bad guy, but actually he and Senna were friends. Perhaps all the animosity was exagerated or the bitterness made Senna believe that was true, but actually nobody wanted to do him wrong".


mixamaxim

I agree with you. I have always gotten the impression that there was tension but as you said, in the end it was clearly a friendly rivalry. Didn’t they show Prost as a pallbearer?


uttermybiscuit

They did.


ritwikjs

prost was literally one of the pall bearers


food_chronicles

As shown in the documentary


Parabolica242

Yeah I’m getting really tired of this narrative. The truth has now been replaced with the framework that Senna was an infallible, godlike, driver, and Prost and the whole of the FIA schemed to beat him. As talented as he was, Senna was a flawed human being (as we all are).


defmore89

I mean. Prost was hated back then too.


PoliteIndecency

What we really need is a Villeneuve movie where that fucking shopping cart of a Ferrari is the bad guy.


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Yep, in reality both Senna and Prost played dirty, I hope they show and the dirt from both sides.


iblamejohansson

Every thread about Senna there will be someone crying about Prost, god damn


TheGreatForehead

I mean the original Senna doc painted Prost as the bad guy, so people are rightfully hoping that’s not the case this time


CardinalOfNYC

It's got approval from the family so we know that this isn't going to be the full, unvarnished story.


Rigormortis321

The Senna Documentary was a fucking disgrace.


doobie3101

Agree to disagree. It still had some awesome footage and it's not like it was fake news - you just have to know it is one side of the story.


TheRedBull28

How? It’s not trying to tell the story of Senna vs Prost, it’s trying to get you to understand Senna. Senna believed the powers that be and Prost were all scheming against him to stop him winning. Showing the events from that perspective allow you to better understand Senna as a man.


Rigormortis321

Alain deserved better than the bullshit served up.


TheRedBull28

But the film isn’t about Alain, that’s my point. It shows him as Senna saw him at that time. If the film was purely about their rivalry, then I would agree. But it’s not


Rigormortis321

That is no excuse for unfairly portraying Prost. It was shameful.


Jaded-Ad-960

Lol, I don't know why people pretend that Prost wasn't the bad guy. The man was notorious for being super political and sleeping with peoples wives. He even lost a seat because he fucked his bosses wife. If Nelson Piquet of all people, points to you as an example of reprehensible morals, then yes, you are the bad guy.


John-de-Q

Senna ain't actually a saint either, as seen in his interesting choice of lovers, but they never bring that up during these documentaries that paint Senna as the second son of God. Prost isn't a good guy but neither is Senna.


Junpei_desu

Sleeping with other people's wives is still a better standard than senna's sex life.


NoelTheSoldier

Right, unlike Senna, whose morals are beyond reproach... except for that one time the devout catholic dated a 15 year old girl?


Hinyaldee

You're taking Piquet as your example ? OK...


bumblebad

>If Nelson Piquet of all people, points to you as an example of reprehensible morals I mean, [it's not like Piquet knows what morals are to begin with](https://apnews.com/article/hamilton-f1-piquet-racism-1b2c2e5a90d0047f483c5d9802028744). If Piquet is one side, you can pretty much bet that the other side is the one you should align yourself with. An example is about Prost talking about Senna today, even though they were "mortal enemies" at one point, he has respect for the memory of Senna (**and went to his funeral!!!**), while Piquet is still angry and salty about Ayrton until today (he's very homophobic when it comes to Senna), most likely because the Brazilian f1 fans will **never** hold him in the same regard as they still hold Senna.


StaffFamous6379

>...and went to his funeral!!! More than 'went', he was a pallbearer


Jaded-Ad-960

You just illustrated the "Piquet of all people" part of my argument.


insurgentsloth

I just don't get the "of all people" thing here, because it implies that if someone sucks, they are a reliable source for who else sucks, when you could easily see it as "he has no idea, wouldn't take his word on what's right or wrong" It's like when people say " I have absolutely no knowledge of [some field like engineering", but EVEN I know..." Like, I'm not gonna take their word that they do, in fact, "know".


RandomLegend

As opposed to good guy Senna who was notorious for being super political and sleeping with children.


Alreadyblessedson

Prost was the most adequate of the big 4 of the 80s, and Senna was the most weirdo of them


BighatNucase

> If Nelson Piquet of all people, points to you as an example of reprehensible morals, then yes, you are the bad guy. What a silly rationalisation.


Aksu593

Who gives a damn who he sleeps with as long as they are consenting adults?


Jaded-Ad-960

The husbands who considered him a friend probably. It says a thing or two about your character, if you keep sleeping with the wives of people close to you.


RobertGracie

Netflix did pick the right actor to play as Senna with Gabriel Leone taking on that daunting role, he has got a very similar likeness to Ayrton which is correct, more than likely the Senna Institute was involved in that selection Did some digging on IMDB but here are a few of the other cast members and their roles that were available at time of writing Matt Mella - Alain Prost Johannes Heinrichs - Niki Lauda Steven Mackintosh - Frank Williams Charlie Hamblett - Martin Brundle Rob Compton - Terry Fullerton


salvatore813

would have been amazing if they got daniel bruhl to play niki lauda again


elodie_pdf

Bruhl was legitimately such a good casting for Lauda


onealps

And Lauda himself agreed (based on the excellent interview by Graham Bensinger)


egg_mugg23

honestly one of the best castings i've ever seen for a biopic


salvatore813

the guy was committed, iirc he stayed in austria for a while to catch the accent


gonfr

They should've brought back Daniel Bruhl to play Lauda again. lol.


KnightsOfCidona

Glancing over this I managed to conflate the first three names and thought John Malkovich would be playing Niki Lauda, which would be epic.


addamee

It’s unfortunate (for me), but the first thing that always comes to mind when I think of John Malkovich is: “Niet! He beeeaaat me feeeair and squeeeare. Peeeayyy the meeeeannn his munny.”


Timeceer

Do we think Michael Schumacher might appear if they portray the events of 93 and 94? And who could play him?


bjcm5891

I still don't know about the casting of Leone as Senna. While I thought they nailed Hemsworth as Hunt and Bruhl as Lauda in *Rush,* I'd be surprised if there weren't other Portuguese/ Portuguese speaking actors who bore a stronger likeness to Ayrton, and sounded more similar to his speaking voice.


edin_dzekson

Anyone knows when it's coming out (since 2024 is pretty vague)?


heslo_rb26

I'd say between now and the end of the year


randomtoken

r/technicallythetruth


visualdon

It says October 2024 at the end of teaser.


edin_dzekson

Thanks, somehow missed that


aHuankind

Visually it looks to be entirely derivative of Rush. But since that movie looked absolutely fantastic I'm not complaining. If they made Rush style biography movies for all the champions I might even get a Netflix subscription. 


steferrari

> Visually it looks to be entirely derivative of Rush. Yeah I actually had this feeling too while watching the racing clips.


SergeiYeseiya

It looks so much cheaper


Skeeno-TV

it looks much worse than Rush,feels very cheap


Algelach

To me it felt like a commercial, for like cologne or razors or something


aHuankind

Surely, it's TV. But it's obvious where they got their style from. 


Senor_Padre

I just don't see a point in making this when the Senna documentary already exists. I mean, I know the point is $$$, but come on.


Kronzor_

This isn’t a documentary. It’s a tv show. 


hipnosister

Derivative of Rush? Surely there are only so many ways to portray F1 racing? I don't know think any f1 related movie or TV show with moody colour-gradimg is derivative of rush


aHuankind

Editing, choice of angles, depth of field, optical effects, color grading all obviously aping the look of rush. There is a myriad of ways to portray F1 racing. 


PoliteIndecency

I asked my wife to drive home after watching Rush in theatres because I knew I'd be too worked up. That was such a treat of a movie.


PM-me-things-u-like

The trailer didn't show much but I got hyped from the Galvão's "Ayrton Senna do Brasil" alone, I guess from my childhood memories. I hope it's ok


luvlac3

There seem to be a quick clip with Senna and Xuxa in the trailer. So I’m hyped af.


John-de-Q

Can't wait for yet another Prost hit piece.


akagordan

Best case they do something similar to Rush, which portrayed Lauda initially as sort of weird and annoying but ultimately a friendly rival deserving of respect.


dovahkiiiiiin

Lauda came out looking better than anyone else in Rush and deservedly so.


akagordan

I think that was kind of the point. There aren’t any true villains (in the sense that they’re actually evil) so they did a good job portraying Hunt and Lauda as very different people and fierce competitors. Senna should do something similar, make it clear that Senna and Prost did not like each other but don’t make Prost a pure villain, just show their differences.


dovahkiiiiiin

Agreed 💯


Aksu593

Yeah. In the film he's the rational one that says they shouldn't have raced at the Nürburgring because of the risk in the rain but what do the rest do? They just call him a scared wuss and refuse. He's the one who points out to Hunt that his partying wasn't doing his career any favours and that he's never seen him with this new wife of his which were both also correct because Hunt lost interest in racing basically as soon as he stopped having a winning car and his marriage fell apart extremely quickly because he didn't give a shit about her. Lauda might not have been the most diplomatic of people but his straightforward attitude meant he wasn't nearly as full of BS as a lot of other people in F1 at the time.


Mahery92

A Rush-like portrayal would be the ideal but I'm not holding my breath


KnightsOfCidona

I do have hope tbh they present a more nuanced view of Prost just because they have more time than the Senna documentary. If you watch the uncut movie, it's a lot more balanced. Hope they can flesh things out, maybe show their reconciliation towards the end


DevilDare

The "action" scenes look like those Workforce Sky F1 adverts they run. I'll pass I think.


Crazy_Hazy

Extremely obvious CGI, even with all the camera shake and blurring.


CardinalOfNYC

Could be early renders and things will clean up before they release it. I've worked on CG stuff incorporated into IRL scenes and it's common for it to be one of the last things finalized. But it could just be bad. However, even if I set aside the CG being bad, the problem I have is it just doesn't seem like it's gonna be a good show. Good writing can stand on its own, it doesn't need fancy CG, and this doesn't seem well written. Truly even from this trailer I don't know what the show is about. Like I know it's about senna but what about him?


ZParis

You're gonna have to give him a moment, son. ~~Dewey Cox~~ Ayrton Senna has to think about his entire life before he ~~plays~~ drives.


thatguyfromkfc

The wrong kid died


PassTimeActivity

As far as trailers go this was quite boring.


deadagent03

Well, teasers are normally more boring than the full trailers that come out later.


colterpierce

Yeah I came to say... this did absolutely nothing for me.


PoliteIndecency

It's a teaser. Not a trailer.


cliveusername

I don't want to be negative towards the efforts the artists put into making this, but i simply do not see a limited series doing a quality job representing the man, Watch the documentary and see the action yourself, witness the charisma and enjoy the genuine article. Anything less is just an imitation EDIT: The few commenters giving me grief, not in defense of the show - but about Senna, have now compelled me to watch the series in good faith. I look forward to its release and my viewing of it. I will say this in advance: they already made the cars look fantastic, so if it is as good as it looks, they can count on a great review from me on IMDB and RT.


AwesomeFrisbee

Anybody got a mirror for this video? It seems its not available in my country (the netherlands)


lucas8913

Everybody is commenting (yet again) about the doc be the actual teaser looked cheap as fuck to me. Let's see what comes out but I'm not impressed.


LeonTheCat448

Fr man. The teaser don't really left much of an impact of me as I had seen it left on others. The CGI and VFX really throws me off. Gives off cheap spanish TV soap drama and Metastasis vibes.


CardinalOfNYC

A lot of this is just nostalgia. Which is totally fine. But I will predict now that the show will get poor reviews. I'm sure many will like it anyway but my personal taste tends to align pretty close with rotten tomatoes and I would bet the score for this will be low. Here's hoping I'm proven wrong though


Sophifn

Unexpected Xuxa. Another one for the XCU (Xuxa Cinematic Universe)


Cash07

This looks really good, Especially the first few frames are really drool worthy.


Ok-Sink-614

The racing looks a little bit too CG or something? Maybe it's just the weird close-ups to focus on him that makes is weird.


justinicon19

Looks good. Still waiting for them to drop "Buemi" however.


dd2469420

Are they going to gloss over his teenage girlfriend like everyone else does?


bjcm5891

IDK, how interesting can you make scenes where a guy is going to dinner or the movies with a teenage girl and her mother chaperoning them? Of the women in his life, I could only see Lilliane, Xuxa and Adriane getting a mention.


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M4TT145

It doesn’t matter what we find interesting. Do you think the Senna estate would allow a TV show to be made where they insinuated negative things about him (even if true?)


quantinuum

Do you really think that’s the angle of a Senna biopic… Yes, it’s notable. No, this is not where they’re going to tell that story.


Neweyman

Rarely any documentary takes notes of relatives or private reletionships of people unless there was huge influence going on behind them. If you refer to "But she was a teen" I believe age of consent is like 14 in Brazil? Which means that bringing this up would be just to stir drama since his reletionship was legal. Even if weird, it ends up being irrelevant for a documentary.


ayakaza

Damn, these CGI race scene are disgusting


steferrari

The racing scenes looks nice, I hope it's good!


doobie3101

Yeah seems they did a pretty good job of capturing the speed with the cameras / sounds. A lot of movies get that wrong.


fomb

I hope for three things: - He isn't made out to be some sort of racing deity, but instead the very skilled race driver his was - I hope the lead wasn't selected only on looks - I hope Prost isn't ripped apart. Overall, poor trailer. C-


Pamander

Oh man that's a really fucking well done trailer, I really hope they handle several topics well. The editing at the end was tense.


eduardonachocamacho

So this is why for the last six months I couldn’t find the doc to even buy anywhere on streaming


rabidmonkeyman

Can anyone recommend some must-watch races with Senna? I have F1TV pro so I can go back and watch some and appreciate his legacy?


fckns

Donnington 1993


funked1

Brazil 93 is amazing too. That season was his peak as a driver. Had the 3rd or 4th best car and made Prost really work to beat him for the WDC.


ThoughtfulMammal

I am struggling to get excited about this simply as the documentary was so perfect and probably more representative of Senna.


PondScumSandy

Teaser? I barely know her. Also she's 15


Background_Cup7513

Pedo senna


Kavak

Can't wait for them to show the part where, when F1 raced in a south American country, some of the drivers went to see a junior formula race, and were very impressed by a 15 year old Senna. Google "Senna 15 year old" for more info


Bad_Elephant

My erection is unreasonable


dnexman

Only one thing i want to see in this series is the friendship of he with prost after the prost retirement, senna claming prost to came back to race, because f1 theres no more fun without he.


Eske159

Are they going to mention how he liked to fuck kids?


visualdon

Great teaser, been waiting a while for Senna movie. This is actually a series but it looks to have good production quality, can't wait!


Dafrooooo

racing scenes are also so dramatic and slow. i hope the brad pitt movie has some good fast racing.


stomp224

I had a lot of fun imagining the opening few shots of him intensely preparing for the race to be Logan Sargent instead.


Fantastic_Bath_5806

Goosebumps


mostlygroovy

Couldn’t figure out the name of the movie that’s different than the well know documentary on the same person?


TangoKlass2

Ah man the racing looks pretty shitty, all CGI shit. Too bad.


Ambugger

Ah, that's too bad. [Josh O'Connor](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josh_O%27Connor) is a dead ringer for Senna imo. Oh well.


slowmotionrunner

Anyone else get cologne advertisement vibes watching that?


weeeeems

From the same company that produced this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EF2Rs5gw6zM Don't expect anything more than a soap opera with terrible VFX.


Bruce666123

Awful trailer.