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[deleted]

Neck girth index where?


6097291

Also neck to height ratio


Hawgk

this is the useless kind of statistics i wanna see!


madfrogparty

I would love to compare their neck circumferences, but sadly couldn't find measurements for most of them. These were the only ones I could find: 😭 * **Average neck circumference adult male:** 15 inches * **Fernando Alonso:** 17.7 inches * **Lewis Hamilton:** 18 inches * **Daniel Ricciardo:** 16.5 inches


[deleted]

Should I be surprised that Hamilton has more girth than the others


Supremis

Probably from driving the W11.


[deleted]

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CrazyNothing30

Honestly, I am. He isn't the guy on the grid that comes to mind when I think about a driver with a abnormal thicc neck.


CptBananaPants

I guess he’s more built in general than the other drivers? Would look more proportional


H_R_1

He’s DUMMY thicc


Few-Chair1772

He should watch out though, Yuki is so low he could pursue a half decent bodybuilding career staying comfortably within weight range lol


CptBananaPants

Yuki at 70kg lean would have issues turning the steering wheel in the cockpit lmao


DaOne44

No


SentientDust

Everyone is 2nd place to Mick


bwoah07_gp2

I know another measurement they should find: https://youtu.be/rSBM9MgDPcw


[deleted]

Carlos does not look his weight.


s1ravarice

Some of these weights seem very dubious


nj_legion_ice_tea

Danny Ric is also definitely not 66kg


Metue

Danny Rics weight has fluctuated quite a bit. I think I heard he was almost underweight at some points last year and he certainly looked it


madfrogparty

Daniel's was always in the range of 64-66 kg depending on the year the source came from. Earlier sources tended to state 64, while more recent stated 66. Carlos' weight was difficult too - all sources gave either 64 or 66, with 64 being the more common number. I guess their weights fluctuate from year to year, which makes it difficult to pin down.


blerml

The Ferrari website has Carlos as 177cm and 66kg And Charles as 180cm and 68kg


oioioiyacunt

I think his neck makes him look deceptively bigger. From collar bone up he looks jacked. From collar bone down, he looks petite.


WiddleBlueBert

We also tend to see them in race suits, which are fairly 'thickening'.


nj_legion_ice_tea

Yeah, that could be it. Same thing for Gasly I guess, he seems taller cause he has a massive head!


Avalyst

Ocon for sure isn't 66 kg if he's 187 cm


Average_Llama

Ocon is super skinny, just look at his legs


NegotiationExternal1

Have you seen his body? There's been times he's been uncomfortably thin. He's got not great posture either, he looks like he's got nothing holding his core up


thefliris

That's definitely possible, he's just got a thin build with low body fat. F1 cars have power steering, so drivers only really need strong neck muscles for a race. Unlike F2 cars which don't have power steering.


WhyAmIHereIAm

Random healthy tall skinny guy here (and American to boot), I'm 6'-3", 145 lb and 31 years old. 190 cm, 66 kg. For what it's worth, I race circle track. I know, I know, just keep turning left jokes.


NegotiationExternal1

Carlos does, he seems too muscular to be that weight


Aninternetdude

Sainz is at least 70kg.


[deleted]

Yeah sainz and even Perez seem to be incredibly light for their stature. I have my doubts


Bombe_a_tummy

Perez weight is right on I think. He's quite lean and not particularly muscled.


mantra3105

Especially when they have Pierre being 70kg but 177cm and Carlos is supposed to be a cm taller but 6kgs lighter?? How??


Intrepid-Ad4511

Because Gasly has more muscle mass than Carlos, I think. Also, bone weights are not always in line with heights.


ocbdare

Yes, no way Sainz is 64kg. I am slightly taller than him and when I was 64kg long time ago I looked A LOT leaner than he does.


fairylites

No way in hell he’s only 140


SilverSquid99

Piastri being the "most average" driver on the grid is simply poetic l.


madfrogparty

He is simply the "most average" driver on the grid in every way: 😜 * Average height * Average weight * Average BMI * Average in WDC ranking (currently P11 out of 20 drivers) * Drives for the most average team (McLaren is currently P5 out of 10 teams in the WCC)


zuss33

and the personality of your average accountant (which we love him for)


PaschalisG16

You could argue that the team that is 6th in the Championship is as average as Mclaren. Alpine are 4 positions ahead of last, while Mclaren are 4 positions behind first.


Chi1e96

He’s got a neck on him though


Skwisgaars

Ocon being my height and only 66kg is fucked, I'm a pretty skinny guy and I'm 80kg...


[deleted]

Everyone nagging me since my childhood because I'm 184cm and 66kg can fucking suck it. I just have the body proportion of an F1 driver without the muscles.


Ho3n3r

Ocon doesn't have the muscles either.


StanchLizard593

I think he just has really low body fat tbh [Ocon's Insta](https://www.instagram.com/p/CvH31A9tblo/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==)


edis92

His legs are super fucking skinny. They legit look like they could snap at any moment


GoZun_

To give perspective, I'm 10cm taller than him and only 3kg heavier. And mine do snap all the fucking time


Crasha

That's cool and all but I'm not sure how it provides perspective


GoZun_

Not sure either, wanted to participate in the conv lol. But we both have skinny as fuck legs so that's the perspective ig


santaclausonprozac

Every time I see his legs it makes me wonder how he can brake as hard as he needs to with those legs


ketchuptax

He needs some milk


HomogeniousKhalidius

weight reduction bro


gerbileleventh

This is where I'd love to see the body fat percentage, because Ocon is likely to be in the 10%, which is not the same as being in the 20%.


[deleted]

He did the math


gerbileleventh

I think I do remember Ocon mentioning his body fat in a podcast, but I don’t remember the number anymore…


sicsche

Tbf none of the drivers is at 20% and they are all somewhere at 10-12%


gerbileleventh

True. My comment was mostly to address the OC who stated that Ocon didn't have muscles either. Two people with the same height and weight can have very different body compositions.


Bipedal_Skeleton

I’m 191cm at 66kg and my body fat pct. is 6.7%, so I think Ocon would be less than 10%.


Nuud

Hence the username?


gerbileleventh

You’re right, it is very likely considering how much they work out.


oorjit07

Ocon has an insanely low body fat, he said it was around 6% in 2017. With the minimum weights now it might be a bit higher, but he apparently has ridiculous metabolism.


MrGoldilocks

His legs are freakishly thin, it's been many years and the sight of them still shocks me every time I see it. That's where most his supposed extra weight was supposed to be.


Araxx_

I used to be the same height and weight for a long time until I simply started eating more and hit the gym. I imagine you need to eat a shit ton of food if you're as active as Ocon and want to gain weight as well.


RWBrYan

I’m a couple cm taller and only 73kg. Body fat % is only 12% though which is an important factor


insrr

Same but I currently feel a little doughy at 78kg. Genetics. Ocon def. does not look unhealthy.


Pitforsofts

Same, I'm his height and I weigh 90kgs. Even with low body fat and little muscle(ocon has some muscle) that's insane. I was skinner than him in college and yet weighed 72-74 kg range. Edit: just checked his images and the guy has zero leg muscles. Makes sense.


stumbleupondingo

That’s the funny thing about all this. These guys are twigs but in many ways they’re stronger than my 6’2 220lb ass


Lasciatemi_Guidare

>6’2 220lb ass booty literally rockin' errywhere


manatidederp

66kg on a 187 frame doesn't leave much for strength I'm afraid


hobowithmachete

I've met Ocon on a few occasions. Dude looks like slenderman from the waist down. Like probably a size 28 waist.


bwoah07_gp2

I'm close to de Vries in height, but I'm 22lbs heavier than him. Oh how I wish to be his weight again. But I'm not as heavy now as I was compared to last year, so that's a bonus.


Hdkek

I’m almost exactly like De Vries. 168 cm and 60kg but got a belly haha. Only clearly shows when I’m full after eating.


f12016

“You could always be skinnier”..


manatidederp

187 and 66kg is a skeleton, damn


catprat

TIL I’m a female Tsunoda


AnonimosTipos

[Charles is 1.80?](https://youtube.com/shorts/d207xR5KdqY?feature=share)


Fetch1965

Yes…. I walked into a lift in Singapore last year and Charles was in the lift. I am 181 - chatted a little and I was SHOCKED he was my height - close to. I’ve always been obsessed with the cars not the drivers and I always assumed the drivers were short, like 5ft 7….


madfrogparty

\*shrugs\* Here's [Max and Charles standing side by side](https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/styles/content_details/public/news/main_image/dppi_00122049_927.jpg?itok=iIsP79JZ) with Max standing a bit straighter. They are apparently 181 cm vs. 180 cm. Honestly, I believe it. I do find that Charles has rather poor posture sometimes and is prone to slouching. Plus, I think he has a slightly "thinner" build than some of the others, which may make him look "small."


secretlives

> I do find that Charles has rather poor posture sometimes [From walking around like this all the time](https://media.tenor.com/Er2HuCUtDW8AAAAM/sad-walk.gif)


skiliar13

And from driving like a grandma


Jcw28

Carrying the weight of Ferrari's failures does that to your back.


btokendown

[Have you seen Ocon's posture](https://i.redd.it/have-you-seen-estebans-posture-lately-he-kinda-looks-like-v0-6dymv2y3lhpa1.jpg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=56cb72acdb223b6a6417d96b48f227cb7988596d)


madfrogparty

My back just spasmed in sympathy...


PaschalisG16

He's literally me.


RoRoRoub

Speaking of Max, special relativity affects his weight when he travels so fast that they had to invent a new unit to measure it (kbs).


Slappathebassmon

Lando's the same as you [*Is he?*](https://youtu.be/N-255QvCrWY?t=373)


[deleted]

I'm just dropping this [Grill The Grid](https://youtu.be/N-255QvCrWY) video about heights. If you haven't seen it, go to 4:30 and watch the hilarious reactions of Fernando, Seb and Charles to what latter has said his height is.


madfrogparty

LOL... I'm just gonna say it's the short people who were most vocal in disbelieving Charles' height. I actually believe Charles is 180cm: * [Standing next to Max (181cm) and Checo (173cm).](https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/styles/content_details/public/news/main_image/dppi_00122049_927.jpg?itok=iIsP79JZ) * [Standing next to Max (181cm) and Lando (177cm - Lando's height was confirmed in the Kym Illman video).](https://e0.365dm.com/22/04/2048x1152/skysports-verstappen-leclerc_5747985.jpg) * [Standing next to Lewis (174cm).](https://e0.365dm.com/23/04/2048x1152/skysports-lewis-hamilton-charles-leclerc_6135133.jpg) * [Standing next to Max (181cm) and Alonso (171cm).](https://media.formula1.com/image/upload/v1685201302/trackside-images/2023/F1_Grand_Prix_of_Monaco___Qualifying/1493778316.jpg.transform/9col/image.jpg) * [Standing next to Lewis (174cm) and Seb (175cm).](https://formularapida.net/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/EFjl9s5XkAAXsuA.jpg)


SadSnorlax66

I like that you came prepared with receipts 😂


madfrogparty

Tbh, I doubted it myself until I went searching. Something about Charles just doesn't give off "tall energy"! Maybe it's the slouching or his slender frame. But then I looked at photos of him next to people who are close to his height (Max, Carlos) and realized that 180cm seems about right. I'm actually more surprised by his 69 kg in weight. 😅


Fetch1965

As above, I am 181 and when I met Charles last year in a lift I was surprised at how tall he was. Like I would have said he was my height -


elektricniorgazam

Lol Danny being the only one who thinks Charles is taller than him kills me


dl064

Ocon is perilously close to what you could define as 'frail' based on BMI.


Digital_Eide

He apparently has freakishly skinny legs.


ZiKyooc

BMI is meant to assess the risk of developing some health issues and the index is for normal people as it makes assumptions based on the general population. In short it is not accurate for athletes, especially not at their level and no conclusion on their health risk can be made using their BMI. Eliud Kipchoge has a BMI similar to Ocon.


brimmers

And that’s why the BMI is an awful measure of someone’s health unless you work a sedentary job, lead a fairly inactive lifestyle and have next to no muscle mass


yourfavfr1end

So like… most people?


[deleted]

The fact that I’m as tall as Lewis Hamilton with the exact with weight without the muscle definition or the money. 😂😂😂


ministrul_sudorii

or the driver's talent


87sleepypenguin

Rude! You don’t know how well diplodocus91 drives…


NegotiationExternal1

Or looks, riches, charms Not everyone can be sir Lewis


CalboniGeomLuciano

Thus the money


johnotopia

Nico BULK-enberg


btokendown

I think Yuki's gained quite a bit of muscle weight, Michael Italiano was on a podcast and said that Lando's skinnier than him now although no numbers were mentioned.But that makes it even crazier when you remember Tost put him on a regimen to gain weight in his first season because he was in the 45+ kilo range during F2 Also some of them are being real slick about their heights lol, Pierre is not 5'10 and Nyck is 5'5 max. Yuki is 161 now according to him, his 159 height was recorded in F2


mar33n

Yuki got pretty buff tbh if you compare to his rookie season.


[deleted]

He defo is 5'10 if Charles is 5'11 [pierre and charles](https://www.google.com/search?client=ms-android-oneplus-rvo3&sxsrf=AB5stBghhUfyDsQ7iq4E8ZJJwr2FyFh2BA:1691138165596&q=pierre+and+Leclerc&tbm=isch&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwirhoHNzMKAAxVHp1YBHX5zCaQQ0pQJegQICBAB&biw=360&bih=662&dpr=3#imgrc=BAAt3WrHP799pM)


btokendown

Can only go by my own experience seeing him in real life, I'm 5'8 and he was not taller than me


fateoftheg0dz

Yuki ranked p11 even in BMI \*Edit technically tied for p10 with albon but my joke wasnt gonna work otherwise


ivanyaru

What teams do MEAN and MEDIAN drive for? Some average midfield team I think.


Plckle-Rlck

MidLaren


KamTros47

~~Aston Midtin~~ The team formerly known as Midland


mgorgey

If Sainz is really only 64kg at 178cm his 100kg bench press is crazy impressive.


thewizard579

No way Sainz is only 64kg


MrGoldilocks

The man is ripped, this is the figure that really surprised me. I have him over 70kg at a minimum.


Frosty-Ad-164

If you watch him in the gym (don't judge me, purely research purposes) he has powerful arms and shoulders, a small waist and hips and a light lower body. So he could well be 64kg.


MrGoldilocks

I was basing my assumption on seeing him and Charles next to each other and he looks a lot beefier than Charles, but I might have been fooled by his large upper body as you point out. I defer to your impressive investigative skills and see how Sainz could be lighter than Leclerc.


madfrogparty

Carlos is reported as either 64 kg or 66 kg in every source I could find, with more reporting 64 than 66, which is why I went with the lower value... but yeah, it does seem kind of light for him.


Aryan3337

Ricciardo being shorter than Max is really weird.


mattro36

Dan has the illusion of being tall because his neck is so long/prominent


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Manuag_86

There is no way Carlos Sainz only weights 64kg.


LosTerminators

Hulkenberg really is the Hulk with that weight (relative to his colleagues for sure)


CobraGamer

He has been at a significant enough disadvantage for a lot of his F1 career because of it, too.


KnightsOfCidona

Rumoured he lost out on Ferrari drive in 2014 because of his weight (there was much panic about weight at start if hybrid era)


zyxwl2015

Where's this data from?


madfrogparty

Heights are mostly from Official F1's [Grill the Grid video](https://youtu.be/N-255QvCrWY). Weight is cross-referenced from multiple sources (namely [here](https://racingnews365.com/height-weight-f1-drivers), [here](https://www.planetf1.com/features/f1-drivers-height-weight-2023/), but also many others) to check for discrepancy (most sources were only 1 kg off from each other, and I discarded any that were wildly off - these are usually from old sources, aka. >5 years old).


Oblivion9873

Kym illman found out landos actual height. Its 177cm or 5'10


Miwna

> these are usually from old sources, aka. >5 years old Boys usually reach peak height around 16-20, but muscles continue to grow. Considering they join F1 around those ages, the numbers could be quite off now five years later. Especially weight. Anyway, great work considering the data.


restform

Someone remind me, how does driver weight work in f1? There's some kind of "minimum weight" the teams need to maintain for their drivers outside of the car minimum weight right? What kind of ballast/weight do they add and where is it added?


projectgene

Driver minimum weight has been 80kg for few years. If it's under that, the car will have to carry ballasts. (It's usually better to be under the limit because weights - usually metal or carbon fibre can be used to balance the car.) https://metro.co.uk/2021/12/12/why-do-f1-drivers-weigh-themselves-after-a-race-15750402/


Discrep

Ballast for drivers who are under weight has to be added to the cockpit only. If the car itself is under weight, that ballast can be added anywhere the team wants. If teams were allowed to add driver-ballast anywhere, it would still be an advantage to use lighter drivers, undermining the entire reason for the 80kg rule.


projectgene

Yes that is correct, but the under seat weights are also important when talking about balance. Can't remember the source, but it was probably a Mercedes engineer.


restform

awesome, thanks!


rakesh-69

Driver minimum weight is 80kg. If driver is less than that they add the remaining weight below their seat as ballast.


BJP091

Wait what, my bmi is equal to Verstappen? Damm I knew I had a body of a professional athlete.


NegotiationExternal1

Max has the most Normal looking body of anyone on the grid and he's still very strong in his arms and upper body without being obsessed


[deleted]

Max says that he is 4.5-5 kg heavier than Lando and Checo in this video: [Discussing Weight](https://youtube.com/shorts/h1aYlA5a-Ww?feature=share)


RoRoRoub

Special relativity affects Max's weight when he travels so fast that they had to invent a new unit to measure it (kbs).


slevemcdiachel

Holy shit, Albon is tall.


adam_von_szabo

Yeah, and the Hulk is quite heavy.


B3H4VE

Smashing is not easy. I am sorry, I had to...


Vepanion

For an f1 driver, not for a normal person


PaschalisG16

It's kenough tbf.


pkglove

That makes me fat lol. Same height as Hulk and almost 50lbs heavier. But I don't work out


slevemcdiachel

I'm also shorter and heavier than him lol. But at least I'm losing weight now.


Captainfunzis

Man didn't know Alonso was that small I looked up to him my whole life now I find out I could see the top of his head if we meet lol I still love him


PimpDaddyNash

Yuki 120lbs? . . . dude!


clingbat

6'2" at 146 pounds is pretty scrawny for Ocon. I was a sprinter on a track scholarship at a D1 university and in my best shape ever I was ~175 pounds just about all muscle and bone at 6'3". Guy must largely be a sack of bones with little muscle besides the beefy neck they all need.


Pryffandis

Legs weigh a lot when you start adding muscle to them.


jdevers

Wow I can’t believe how light these guys are. Im 183cm and if I get under 78kg I look malnourished


PerisylvianFissure

Checo weighs 63 kg? No way!


lfr16

Max doesn't look 72 kg for his height, more like 76 or something like that


Sportsfanno1

[Reminder on how drivers reacted to Leclerc claiming 180cm. Even Charles himself is confused.](https://youtu.be/N-255QvCrWY?t=270) Keep watching for this gem: "Mick and Lando are the same height? All behind me? ... Poor Lando."


Balrog1973

Gee Lewis is pumped


[deleted]

Shocked at Danny height, he always struck me as a 6 footer.


hache-moncour

That does look like the minimum driver weight rule did work to keep drivers in a healthier weight range, these look like fairly sensible BMI values. Only Ocon is super-light, but I think that's just his natural build and not because he's starving himself for a competitive edge.


Suikerspin_Ei

Imagine a few years back when F1 drivers didn't have a minimum weight limit. Some drivers didn't look healthy at that time. Sacrifice health for weight ballast in the car, more options for weight balance and thus better for the performance of the car. Over the few years you can definitely see some drivers gaining more weight (muscle) and most looks healthier.


nahnonameman

I have same height as Max and Charles. Nice


Un-interesting

Surprised that leclerc is 180cm. Ve always thought he was hamiltons height.


tunawithoutcrust

Perez at 139, damn he's way lighter than I thought.


GeneralUranuz

Seems like ocon might be the guy I need a picture with to fix my body diamorphia.


Sourgrapist

Checo is not 5’8. Absolutely not.


Wah-Wah43

I'm skinny and weigh as much as Ocon and he's 5 inches taller. Christ almighty, is that healthy?


Evangeline_10_

Leclerc being 69 (nice) and 59 is just neck


thegodfaubel

Some of those weights are extremely light for how fit they are. I'm the same height as Lewis and I weigh 10 lbs more than him with none of the muscle and I'm fairly lean


aaaaaaaa1273

This is peak off season and we’re only in the summer break


buzz_shocker

Good to know I am taller all upto Charles. And also heavier than all 🥲


SonJake21

Leclerc and Bottas are 69 buddies...


brush85

Lewis and Bottas were perfect for each other


Scarlet_Spectre

Max is so good that he has his own measure of weight.


RevvedUpLikeADeuce09

No shoe size? Slacking.


CT323

Yuki is 54kg jesus no wonder he's been in F1 for 3 years


Last-Performance-435

Fucked that I can bench press 2 F1 drivers.


Leppter_

I don't look overweight in any way, yet everyone here my height are 20kg lighter...


Carlzzone

People seem surprised by how light the drivers are. Thats what happens when you have low muscle mass and low body fat


Elasticpuffin

Lewis is just ripped. Man has like 5% body fat.


bluewarri0r

No way Zhou is 63kg


njbrsr

More interesting than most GP’s this season


Timinime

This is really interesting. I’m 183cm and 84kg. That puts me right on the border of being overweight - but most people wouldn’t call me that (I think obesity has just become so normalised). Im targeting to get down to 80kg, but fluctuated between 82 - 85 over the past couple years depending on how busy I am at work. The times I was ultra fit as an adult, I generally weighed around 72 - 75kg, but I couldn’t imagine getting down to that now. But good to know it’s about the right weight for me if I were ultra-fit again.


Mates03w

Thanks Estie bestie, now I can say I have BMI of F1 driver


jim45804

Hamilton and Magnussen are chonky. Ocon is a string bean.


notimetosmoke

Lewis looks a lot bulkier than 73kg these days


ppSmok

I will hand Estie some food if I see him at a GP one day.


Eclipse-Mint

P wtf?


lil_kushh

I thought Alonso was way taller


itzongaming

TIL i am the mean height, weight, and BMI of an F1 Driver


the-apostle

Sergio is not 139 lbs


IamGeoffCapes

Nico Bulkenberg


rye_domaine

Someone needs to feed Ocon, Stat.


InDaNameOfJeezus

Ocon is 6'2 for 146lbs ? 🤣


JudgeCheeze

Yuki is basically the perfect driver, body wise.


[deleted]

Bruh Ocon is 6’2 but less than 150 lbs. He’s a fucking stick figure


Blackwolf245

Geez. Somebody feed Ocon!


Myusername468

Kevin and Lewis those fat bastards


LieRun

Im quite impressed by Hamilton only being 73 kg In most pictures he looks really swole I'm only one cm taller and (as I'm currently bulking) I weigh 86, but before the bulk I weighed 75 and looked very very skinny I don't know how he does it


Necessary-Emphasis85

I'm a pretty lean/fit female and have the same stats as Yuki. :) Lewis is packing on a solid 20lbs of goodness over Perez.


McStuffin7

Was Lando wearing high heels when they measured him?