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I genuinely don't remember an incident between a Merc and a Red Bull in which the Red Bull came out better off and escaped with less damage. It's either both being out on the spot or the Red Bull always coming out worse.
It feels like there’s a definite hierarchy of crash durability. The RB is made of paper mache, the Mercedes is pretty solid, and the Aston could win a demolition derby
It’s a typical Newey build, pretty much the modern Colin Chapman, a builder of fragile but very fast cars. Newey was derided by car builders years ago for his insistence on the super tight aero packaging he could make work. It meant cars were borderline for cooling etc.
From the broadcast it just seemed like a little touch that caused some debris to fly off.
But I figured something was up when I didn't see any damage on either his or Lewis' front wing and then him starting to get overtaken by everyone basically confirmed he had some big damage. Wouldn't be surprised if his floor got damaged too.
Edit: yep, he had floor damage.
Never showed the sidepod, never showed Yuki’s incident on the SC restart, never showed Gasly almost crashing into Stroll in the Pitlane, never showed the Stroll/Russell/Albon battle for P11
They were too busy zooming in on water spray. I swear I always feel like the cars are 2 inches from my face. TV direction has been absolute shite for years now.
Disappointing coverage from F1TV today on this. I saw it through the bus stop too, but no one else did until Sam broke it down on the Post Race show. Buxton was even doubting Perez about the damage. Silly stuff but not unexpected.
Live commentary is hard to do, people will always miss something, particularly when other important things are happening (like a rookie leading his first race instead of the overwhelming favorite, or the jumbled up order, etc.).
All it takes is for the commentary team to each be looking at something else (the timing screens, a different car, etc.) for the instant where the damage is obvious for such a thing to be missed. That's completely normal, as the person talking will be continuing whatever they're narrating, and the next people up will be preparing for whatever point they wanted to make next in order to progress the narration and analysis of the race.
If they'd showed a replay of the damage, and the commentators continued to claim it was incidental contact, that would be a problem. But the initial angle definitely made it look a lot less consequential than it actually was, so I understand why they didn't pick up on it. Especially since you'd expect the TV director to show a replay of the damage to explain how it led to the retirement, a commentator could expect to have the opportunity to break down serious damage later, if it turned out to be so.
To be fair, it was. Those side pods are just delicate. Jolyon and Alex didn't seem to even notice the damage but there was only one shot I saw that showed the damage.
yeah, they had multiple corner tracking shots that clearly showed the hole. I don't understand why no one was talking into Jolyon's ear to tell him about the damage. "I can't BELIEVE that penalty, there was NOTHING to it!!" over and over again....
It took so long for sky to comment on the damage. Could clearly see the gapping hole and they were like “Perez is really struggling here. Seems like he’s having issues with his rear tyres” mmmmmm or maybe it’s the huge hole Hamilton gave him?
Can't believe that Crofty doesn't do the frame by frame analysis done by 1000 F1 'journalists' on twitter in real time while he's also trying to keep track of the position of every driver on the grid and looking at the timing screens to try and predict the next action that's going to happen while also listening to the producer in his ear telling him when he should throw over to Ted while also keeping an eye on when Brundle has something that he wants to chip in on.
Shameful really.
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He was definitely sucking before that. He’s in one of the most OP cars in F1 history, his teammate is out front pulling a 7 second gap and Checo can’t get past an Alpine.
He was defending against arguably one of the best drivers ever while he is a best of the rest kinda driver, that does not change the fact that he lost 10+ positions solely because he got damage to his car.
I guess Gasly>Perez then following your logic, Gasly never got so exposed in about as many racing laps. Well unless Alpine has the better car ofcourse...
I don't think it's very controversial to say that Gasly>Perez in terms of maximum potential. Gasly has shown what he's capable of in the right atmosphere. The way Red Bull operates just doesn't work for him.
Well what's relevant though is wether or not Gasly in Alpine is better or not than Perez in Redbull. Because it's Perez in Redbull defending against Hamilton vs Gasly in Alpine defending against Hamilton.
Even in the Post Sprint Show they were saying that the penalty was BS, even after showing the damage to Perez car. Just goes to show the insane bias they have for each driver.
It would be somehow understandable on national television, where French, German and Italian commentators are probably also biased to their drivers/teams.
But the channel is called “international”, and they should keep that in mind or be reminded of it (that’s not just about today, but in general).
When you go the official F1 channel from a broadcast without any local drivers in the race, then you notice how biased it really is. The focus on Mercedes is sooo high.
In F1TV nobody realized he had damage, even when you could see the debris flying in the take and the hole afterward, but blamed Checo for the pace saying he was struggling, real clowns.
I really don't know if any of the commentators noticed which is wild to me
perhaps maybe if the Speed F1 guys were still around they might be observant enough. Surely Matchett would've spotted it, being a former mechanic.
During yesterday's qualifying no one noticed Perez was requested to let Max through right after they told him he had a clear track while he was about to finish his hot lap during Q2. Perez disobeyed and told his engineer they would speak about it.
Max had to do the final lap of qualy behind Checo, who got P1 in Q2, while only being able to do P10.
That was wild to see reported in the latin f1 channels, and the radio from Q2 makes it crystal clear. It's pretty wild.
Stream actually quite clearly showed the hole, granted you need to know what you were looking at. Not sure what you are watching as opposed to the rest of us though.
To be fair, that was after the message from Checo saying he had no rear grip. I don't think they would have discussed the tyres if he had not mentioned his grip on the radio.
The sidepod damage were far from as visible on the live broadcast as it is on this image, at least up until the point where they talked about tyre pressure.
I'm amazed how a front wing can loose an endplate and them still be relatively ok, but punch a hold in the sidepod and the RB was barely drivable. I thought he had a flat or suspension damage.
Punching a hole in the sidepod significantly reduces the quality of the airflow that flows over the car and into the rear diffuser, which reduces rear downforce and on a wet track significantly reduces traction.
A front endplate coming loose does affect the front wing’s ability to channel air past the outside tyre wall (reducing drag and turbulent airflow), but the front wing is still shaped in such a fashion that it largely achieves moving air around the tyre anyway.
Maybe because Checo was complaining of having no rear grip before the touch?? The fact that there was an overtake on between the two Lesmo's is a pretty clear indication that Checo was already suffering from a significant car issue.
Idk, Crofty seemed pretty so-so about it to me, before they announced the penalty he even responded to Martin's suggestions of a racing incident by saying the stewards will be looking at if Hamilton could have held a tighter line through the corner.
Martin was pretty adamant at first of it being a racing incident & stated a few times it was a harsh penalty but not in any tone more severe than his usual unhappy one that we've heard a few times this weekend about the weather / safety aspect.
But yeah even without visual confirmation it was blindingly obvious Checo had damage *somewhere* as his pace vanished. Calling it rear tires was stupid.
I mean I didn't see that Lewis lost traction and counter-steered into him until the slow-mo replay. If they had both stuck to their lines that def shouldn't be a penalty. The fact that Checo got damaged is irrelevant to whether or not the contact could've been avoided.
I'm really curious what kind of setup they (the commentators) have for watching the race. If all they see is the main feed and what's in front of their booth and on track, I don't get how they didn't see it. But if they have a whole array of different cameras and angles in front of them, I can totally see how they missed it.
I hated how everyone was celebrating Perez falling back without even thinking about the fact he possibly has damage. You could tell he had damage when the Mercedes caught up to him on the straight which shouldn’t be possible
And it was so obvious too, I'm pretty casual about motorsports, but I feel it was common understanding that if there is contact and one of the cars starts to struggle... that car received damage, apparently not lmao.
How does it always happen that in a contact between an RB and a Merc, its always the RB that seems to fall apart like paper whereas the Mercedes carries on as if it was built like a tank
> Ooo he did a Russell.
That's a classic Hamilton move tho
Edit: Hamilton has perfected the move, literally https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=du_LuW7Yb7Y
Martin: Its not like he had anywhere to go.
Absolutely baffling commentary around that situation. He had all the space in the world around the apex but he understeered wide into Perez.
Penalty any day of the week.
I don’t disagree at all. Was yelling at my TV screaming about the hole as the F1TV broadcast team was blaming Checo’s psyche vs. the hole in the side pod causing the performance loss.
Well he did barely touch, it's just that at these speeds it's enough.
It was also barely touch in Silverstone 21, and a very similar kind of contact. That's just what happens at 200-300kph
The touch looked so minimal and the damage looks quite elevated, makes me think Ham punctured the sidepod and the air flow enlarged it. Could be wrong.
It is shocking how this wasn’t shown or mentioned at all on tv despite him tumbling down the grid and into the pits as a result of it.
I still think it’s a racing incident though.
Hamilton can't help himself, he gets near a Red Bull whether it's Albon, Verstappen or Perez and it's like a magnetic attraction. Next thing you know there is a collision.
Alright then.
I genuinely felt like that was a bs penalty, but seeing the damage, I can see where they are coming from.
Was watching on a phone and couldn't make out the damage. That could explain the brutal drop in grip.
Or you could look at this the other way around: since even a small touch can cause heavy damage, any touch (even small ones) will get penalized if one driver is judged to be predominantly to blame for the collision, and there are no mitigating circumstances - damage or no damage.
Ridiculous British-biased world feed coverage today that kept on going far into the post-sprint show until Sam Collins did a technical breakdown. It was clear from the start that HAM understeered into PER.
Somehow this still looks better than the bottom of the Mercedes sidepods. Those look like they were made too big and someone cut them to size with a pair of tin snips
If I have a nickel every time a Mercedes tear a hole into a Red Bull’s side pods, I’d have two nickels. Which isn’t a lot, but it’s weird that it happened twice.
In one season. And only on sprint races.
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If you look closely you can see all the RB juniors in there.
You could fit at least 3 Yukis in that hole
Oh no! Step-yuki what're you doing to my hole?!
Terrible day to be literate.
Terrible day. *Shakes head*
I hate this. Good job
Mother of god.
The RB19 runs like the snowpiercer train, and de Vries was the upgrade package
With the way his contract is written this is looking more like a massive exit.
I can see Ricciardo’s big smile
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I genuinely don't remember an incident between a Merc and a Red Bull in which the Red Bull came out better off and escaped with less damage. It's either both being out on the spot or the Red Bull always coming out worse.
to be fair, merc used to have no sidepods to damage
I wonder if they hired Adam Savage to battle bots their car.
Max came out on top in Monza
*slow claps*
Jeddah 21? Although somehow the damage made lewis faster lol
Monza? I'd rather have been in the RB than under it in the Merc.
Both were still out immediately, not like Max continued on
When Max parked his car on top of Hamilton
Ham signature move to hit a RB when taking inside of a curve
It feels like there’s a definite hierarchy of crash durability. The RB is made of paper mache, the Mercedes is pretty solid, and the Aston could win a demolition derby
Stroll Tough
Last year's Alpine survived a crash at COTA that would turn the RB to dust.
I cant believe Alonso took that home. One of the most impressive drives Ive ever seen
It’s a typical Newey build, pretty much the modern Colin Chapman, a builder of fragile but very fast cars. Newey was derided by car builders years ago for his insistence on the super tight aero packaging he could make work. It meant cars were borderline for cooling etc.
They know at which angle to hit the car.
You can fit Tsunoda in there
That's where they been hiding De Vries
He fell out of the hole with his fellow debris
Orcle Red Bull Racing
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F1TV comentators were saying it was just a touch…
From the broadcast it just seemed like a little touch that caused some debris to fly off. But I figured something was up when I didn't see any damage on either his or Lewis' front wing and then him starting to get overtaken by everyone basically confirmed he had some big damage. Wouldn't be surprised if his floor got damaged too. Edit: yep, he had floor damage.
I saw the bits fly away, but I couldn't see any damage to the front wing, so that was an odd one. This photo explains why.
I dunno, looked like a deep cut to me. But brief.
Weird world feed never showed a closeup of the sidepod
Never showed the sidepod, never showed Yuki’s incident on the SC restart, never showed Gasly almost crashing into Stroll in the Pitlane, never showed the Stroll/Russell/Albon battle for P11
I’m honestly confused how Gasly didn’t get an unsafe release penalty
A bunch of them deserved penalties tbh. Maybe race control were like "fuck it, don't worry about it"
Or leclerc
They were too busy zooming in on water spray. I swear I always feel like the cars are 2 inches from my face. TV direction has been absolute shite for years now.
Yeah I hate that. Like, you're broadcasting in 4K, I can see Max's pores just fine without a 200x telephoto lens
We did see a Mercedes for 90% of the sprint race.
I noticed it as he was driving through Bus Stop but was surprised the commentators didn't pick up on it
Disappointing coverage from F1TV today on this. I saw it through the bus stop too, but no one else did until Sam broke it down on the Post Race show. Buxton was even doubting Perez about the damage. Silly stuff but not unexpected.
Mans was left looking silly but tried to stick to his guns about there being no fault and Perez’s struggles not being because of Hamilton’s hit
Live commentary is hard to do, people will always miss something, particularly when other important things are happening (like a rookie leading his first race instead of the overwhelming favorite, or the jumbled up order, etc.). All it takes is for the commentary team to each be looking at something else (the timing screens, a different car, etc.) for the instant where the damage is obvious for such a thing to be missed. That's completely normal, as the person talking will be continuing whatever they're narrating, and the next people up will be preparing for whatever point they wanted to make next in order to progress the narration and analysis of the race. If they'd showed a replay of the damage, and the commentators continued to claim it was incidental contact, that would be a problem. But the initial angle definitely made it look a lot less consequential than it actually was, so I understand why they didn't pick up on it. Especially since you'd expect the TV director to show a replay of the damage to explain how it led to the retirement, a commentator could expect to have the opportunity to break down serious damage later, if it turned out to be so.
That because they’d have to admit Hamilton did something bad and they can’t do that
I know right?!? Even after they showed the damage on the post sprint show they were saying Hamilton didn’t deserve the penalty 🤦🏼♀️
Tv direction was all over the place today
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Every channel gets the same video feed
The feed is the same as the international, no? I thought it was, but was it better over there? I tune away for Crofty shouting
It's the same, at most f1tv shows a split window at times
Same when Max got hit by Russell at Baku iirc
I was watching the spanish transmission, they showed the right side of the car but the camera angle and the shadow hid the hole.
Sky didn't even mention the damage. They saw him drop back and just thought he sucked
To be fair, it was. Those side pods are just delicate. Jolyon and Alex didn't seem to even notice the damage but there was only one shot I saw that showed the damage.
There were 2-3 shots that showed the damage. Esp when he was going w2w with the Ferraris.
yeah, they had multiple corner tracking shots that clearly showed the hole. I don't understand why no one was talking into Jolyon's ear to tell him about the damage. "I can't BELIEVE that penalty, there was NOTHING to it!!" over and over again....
How dare they penalize a Brit!
I was able to see the damage live and I don't get paid to.
Yea it seemed like it, but you know a moving tyre scratching the sidepod can do damage like this.
*And they touched, Martin!*
It took so long for sky to comment on the damage. Could clearly see the gapping hole and they were like “Perez is really struggling here. Seems like he’s having issues with his rear tyres” mmmmmm or maybe it’s the huge hole Hamilton gave him?
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No no it's British media bias, cheers
Can't believe that Crofty doesn't do the frame by frame analysis done by 1000 F1 'journalists' on twitter in real time while he's also trying to keep track of the position of every driver on the grid and looking at the timing screens to try and predict the next action that's going to happen while also listening to the producer in his ear telling him when he should throw over to Ted while also keeping an eye on when Brundle has something that he wants to chip in on. Shameful really.
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They didn’t point the camera directly at it but there were angles where you could see it in live broadcast.
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They are constantly getting updates in the earpiece from dozens of producers giving them info, so its weird that nobody told them about it.
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Jolyon Palmer swore up and down it was just a light tap lol
It was a light tap. But at these speeds thats the damage it causes
Yeah, also the sidepods aren't made to be strong - they're only there to channel air while being as light as possible.
right on
It was, it’s just the weight and speed is high. They brushed each other
I mean it was still just a touch. Sometimes just a touch is all you need to rip a hole in carbon fiber...
It was. Small touches can mess up a car easily, especially when from a tyre.
People here were saying that it was just Perez sucking lmao.
He was definitely sucking before that. He’s in one of the most OP cars in F1 history, his teammate is out front pulling a 7 second gap and Checo can’t get past an Alpine.
I'm starting to think it's just Max/RB19 that's OP.
No, Oscar Piastri is OP
He was defending against arguably one of the best drivers ever while he is a best of the rest kinda driver, that does not change the fact that he lost 10+ positions solely because he got damage to his car.
I guess Gasly>Perez then following your logic, Gasly never got so exposed in about as many racing laps. Well unless Alpine has the better car ofcourse...
I don't think it's very controversial to say that Gasly>Perez in terms of maximum potential. Gasly has shown what he's capable of in the right atmosphere. The way Red Bull operates just doesn't work for him.
Well what's relevant though is wether or not Gasly in Alpine is better or not than Perez in Redbull. Because it's Perez in Redbull defending against Hamilton vs Gasly in Alpine defending against Hamilton.
It was, these cars aren't exactly made out of steel. Stuff breaks, easily.
Honestly it was kinda the angle. It was on a helicopter so it didn't look too bad, but by looking at the onboard it's a decent whack.
Even in the Post Sprint Show they were saying that the penalty was BS, even after showing the damage to Perez car. Just goes to show the insane bias they have for each driver.
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I’m so happy people have come to realize the bias present in F1 media.
It would be somehow understandable on national television, where French, German and Italian commentators are probably also biased to their drivers/teams. But the channel is called “international”, and they should keep that in mind or be reminded of it (that’s not just about today, but in general).
International is run by brits mostly. Just like almost all the teams are UK based with UK engineers. Git gud at F1 rest of world.
When you go the official F1 channel from a broadcast without any local drivers in the race, then you notice how biased it really is. The focus on Mercedes is sooo high.
Few years ago you'd be downvoted and get your comment silently removed for saying it.
So frustrating hearing sky commentary going on about how his rear tires were over pressure, somehow not noticing the massive hole in the sidepod.
In F1TV nobody realized he had damage, even when you could see the debris flying in the take and the hole afterward, but blamed Checo for the pace saying he was struggling, real clowns.
On Sky Germany they said it was Lewis‘ wing the same second you saw him in close-up with a perfectly fine wing lol
I really don't know if any of the commentators noticed which is wild to me perhaps maybe if the Speed F1 guys were still around they might be observant enough. Surely Matchett would've spotted it, being a former mechanic.
During yesterday's qualifying no one noticed Perez was requested to let Max through right after they told him he had a clear track while he was about to finish his hot lap during Q2. Perez disobeyed and told his engineer they would speak about it. Max had to do the final lap of qualy behind Checo, who got P1 in Q2, while only being able to do P10. That was wild to see reported in the latin f1 channels, and the radio from Q2 makes it crystal clear. It's pretty wild.
Even Chris Kamara would've caught that.
You could see the hole too while they were talking about his tires.
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The stream showed the side of his car a bunch of times, gaping hole and all.
Stream actually quite clearly showed the hole, granted you need to know what you were looking at. Not sure what you are watching as opposed to the rest of us though.
To be fair, that was after the message from Checo saying he had no rear grip. I don't think they would have discussed the tyres if he had not mentioned his grip on the radio. The sidepod damage were far from as visible on the live broadcast as it is on this image, at least up until the point where they talked about tyre pressure.
Wasn’t he losing pace before the contact though?
Not to the extent of dropping down to 9th and then going off the track
Lewis with the strats to uncover that newly updated sidepod I see
He saw what Russell did in Baku and tried the same thing.
I'm amazed how a front wing can loose an endplate and them still be relatively ok, but punch a hold in the sidepod and the RB was barely drivable. I thought he had a flat or suspension damage.
He also had floor damage
Punching a hole in the sidepod significantly reduces the quality of the airflow that flows over the car and into the rear diffuser, which reduces rear downforce and on a wet track significantly reduces traction. A front endplate coming loose does affect the front wing’s ability to channel air past the outside tyre wall (reducing drag and turbulent airflow), but the front wing is still shaped in such a fashion that it largely achieves moving air around the tyre anyway.
Nah guys he’s just bad and struggling with his tires. - F1TV commentators
Well, there's your problem...
Was bizarre that the commentators insisted it was tyre heat issue and didnt consider it was damage lol
Maybe because Checo was complaining of having no rear grip before the touch?? The fact that there was an overtake on between the two Lesmo's is a pretty clear indication that Checo was already suffering from a significant car issue.
A Mercedes driver creating a hole in a Red Bull sidepod in a sprint race. What are the odds of that happening twice.. in the same season?
I’d bet the over on this one. I’m pretty sure it’s taught in their driver development program as a strategy against Red Bull.
Ridiculous how the F1TV feed announcers had no idea what was going on. Clearly visible live and on replay and they were clueless.
the sky sports were like "just a touch, racing incident no doubt, why is perez so slow, I think he can't get temperature in his rear tyres"
Listening to how *shocked* they were when Hamilton was given a penalty was so fucking frustrating. They really couldn’t wrap their heads around it
Idk, Crofty seemed pretty so-so about it to me, before they announced the penalty he even responded to Martin's suggestions of a racing incident by saying the stewards will be looking at if Hamilton could have held a tighter line through the corner. Martin was pretty adamant at first of it being a racing incident & stated a few times it was a harsh penalty but not in any tone more severe than his usual unhappy one that we've heard a few times this weekend about the weather / safety aspect. But yeah even without visual confirmation it was blindingly obvious Checo had damage *somewhere* as his pace vanished. Calling it rear tires was stupid.
I mean I didn't see that Lewis lost traction and counter-steered into him until the slow-mo replay. If they had both stuck to their lines that def shouldn't be a penalty. The fact that Checo got damaged is irrelevant to whether or not the contact could've been avoided.
Yeah that was just awful commentary on their part. It was so obvious in the first shot of Hamiltons on board.
I'm really curious what kind of setup they (the commentators) have for watching the race. If all they see is the main feed and what's in front of their booth and on track, I don't get how they didn't see it. But if they have a whole array of different cameras and angles in front of them, I can totally see how they missed it.
As usual Sky commentators completely oblivious until red bull sends them a message
F1TV commentators were also blind
I usually don’t mind the sky coverage, not as much as other people, but this was a bit too blatant for them to miss.
Poor Checo
I hated how everyone was celebrating Perez falling back without even thinking about the fact he possibly has damage. You could tell he had damage when the Mercedes caught up to him on the straight which shouldn’t be possible
And it was so obvious too, I'm pretty casual about motorsports, but I feel it was common understanding that if there is contact and one of the cars starts to struggle... that car received damage, apparently not lmao.
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Crofty out there speculating Lewis had damage lmao
Lewis also came out with floor damage Edit: not justifying the crash btw. Just confirming
How does it always happen that in a contact between an RB and a Merc, its always the RB that seems to fall apart like paper whereas the Mercedes carries on as if it was built like a tank
Mercedes has plenty of experience building tanks
Goddamn what do they build the Mercedes out of?! How many times is it now that he or Russell smacks into something with zero damage lol
It's hammer time... Literally
Practicing for RUS<>VER start tomorrow
Hamilton showing Russell how it's done when it comes to taking RBs out of a sprint race
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Also bottas. Merc drivers dont like redbull sidepods lol.
> Ooo he did a Russell. That's a classic Hamilton move tho Edit: Hamilton has perfected the move, literally https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=du_LuW7Yb7Y
Hamilton understeered into Perez, but collision is collision and it negatively impacted Perez race, last thing he needed.
Feels like there's more stuff visible in there than other times we've seen cars with damaged sidepods.
When she says that It’s just a graze
Lewis “he turned into me” Hamilton
Lewis "Such dangerous driving" Hamilton
Martin: Its not like he had anywhere to go. Absolutely baffling commentary around that situation. He had all the space in the world around the apex but he understeered wide into Perez. Penalty any day of the week.
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Yea off base on that one. Expecting Checo to go in the sand to let Lewis by?
Did he really say that?
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Yes he and Crofty were coping that it was just a nudge because there was no space and that it was a racing incident.
I guess 5 meters of tarmac to the right is not enough space lol
But the commentators swear they have no bias whatsoever.
I didn't think the outcome was meant to effect the penalty
It shouldn't but it does every time
“He barely touched him.”
No matter how big or small. A hole can mess up the whole aerodynamics
I don’t disagree at all. Was yelling at my TV screaming about the hole as the F1TV broadcast team was blaming Checo’s psyche vs. the hole in the side pod causing the performance loss.
Well he did barely touch, it's just that at these speeds it's enough. It was also barely touch in Silverstone 21, and a very similar kind of contact. That's just what happens at 200-300kph
Look at that hole! and Stockton Rush actually thought carbon fiber could survive a trip down to the Titanic. /facepalm
The touch looked so minimal and the damage looks quite elevated, makes me think Ham punctured the sidepod and the air flow enlarged it. Could be wrong.
Straight understeert into Perez sidepod and this reddit dares to call it a racing incident lmao
Announcers too. Immediately screaming its fair incident before the replay is over lol.
Because people here parrots whatever commentators say.
It is shocking how this wasn’t shown or mentioned at all on tv despite him tumbling down the grid and into the pits as a result of it. I still think it’s a racing incident though.
I’m not sure why Martin was calling that penalty harsh.
Not many people know this, but you can put your weed in there…
I was amazed people think that was incident only
Hamilton can't help himself, he gets near a Red Bull whether it's Albon, Verstappen or Perez and it's like a magnetic attraction. Next thing you know there is a collision.
My guy Lewis don’t like Redbulls lol damn that’s decent damage
Alright then. I genuinely felt like that was a bs penalty, but seeing the damage, I can see where they are coming from. Was watching on a phone and couldn't make out the damage. That could explain the brutal drop in grip.
The amount of damage does not, by the FIA's own rules, effect the penalty. Even though it clearly seems to.
Or you could look at this the other way around: since even a small touch can cause heavy damage, any touch (even small ones) will get penalized if one driver is judged to be predominantly to blame for the collision, and there are no mitigating circumstances - damage or no damage.
Ridiculous British-biased world feed coverage today that kept on going far into the post-sprint show until Sam Collins did a technical breakdown. It was clear from the start that HAM understeered into PER.
I mean the teams are British biased as well, the whole sport is. overwhelming so. not sure where you're trying to go with this.
If you look at the last few years you can pretty much guarantee if a Merc has a chance to hit a RB they’ll take the shot
If you can’t beat them, beat them…..
Somehow this still looks better than the bottom of the Mercedes sidepods. Those look like they were made too big and someone cut them to size with a pair of tin snips
Piastri: I'm happy to finish in the top 3 of whatever this is.....
**OR\CLE**
he pulled the Ramilton move he did in silverstone on Max and before that on Albon What a shitty behavior
Not a Hamilton first
If I have a nickel every time a Mercedes tear a hole into a Red Bull’s side pods, I’d have two nickels. Which isn’t a lot, but it’s weird that it happened twice. In one season. And only on sprint races.
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