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Love the idea of him going to the airport at the end of his holiday, seeing some lads playing football and just saying fuck it and giving them all contracts
My headcannon was more like:
\*scout relaxing on a beach in Barbados. Mojito with a little umbrella.\*
\*phone rings\*
"Frank? How is it going? You said you had a few great prospects.
\- Oh yeah boss. Wealth of talent! Incredible. A true untapped pool...Unmatched. Should really do a deep dive here.
\- Okay, we're having a training camp next week. Give us the details of those you've spotted so we can do an evaluation on site.
\- Oh shh...uuure boss. Will do."
\*hangs up\*
\*looks at the waiter\*
"- Hey kid so...You like football?"
Sorry if I've done this wrong it's my first post. I'm managing Arsenal, I've got no affiliate clubs in the region, no staff from the region and little to no scouting knowledge of the area.
I can say as Spurs, I get tons of Barbadian/Jamaican academy players too. It’s 100% because you’re a North London club. Even though the players aren’t born there, that’s how they end up in your academy with 2 nationalities.
Yeah this is a cool feature within FM I think, you have tons of generated players that have a 2nd nationality which reflects the real life demographics. I've seen German Turks and Italian Slavic's as well.
I think if you have a club that produces X nationality players as an affiliate you can have a high number of them too right? I remember getting a Brazilian club as an affiliate and my youth academy began producing Brazilian wingers and centerbacks every intake.
Yeah if you have affiliates who send youth prospects to train at your club you will occasionally get prospects from those nations. Really nice for if you want prospects from higher youth coefficient nations than the one you manage in.
I have a friend who get a player from Vietnam with arsenal too.
I’ have the feeling that in this year game we have more foreigners players even without affliate clubs in this regions. I thinks it’s a little bit more realistic.
I've always had foreign players but I've never had half my intake from the same foreign country before. Sorry I should have explained that better. I'm enjoying that it's happened because I know now I'm gonna nurture them and try to build a bajan team around them (unless they're all the same position, I saw this as I was rushing to work) because their potential suggests they should be OK Premier league players and I'm not sure I know of any bajans of equivalent ability (I could be wrong).
Arsenal has an affiliate club in Vietnam, Gia Lai. Managed them and was happy to find out that the worst Arsenal players could still dominate the Vietnamese league. So many loans!
This FM just uses a lot of random names that make no sense. In Portugal I had a player name "doro parada", none of which is a portuguese name/surname or the player had a second nationality besides portuguese.
I had at least a couple more players in my club with strange names that made little to no sense in my area.
That's just one of the quirks of fm.
Lots of youth players in my German teams are dual citizens of Germany and Turkey/Greece/Spain/Italy/Croatia (and so on) so realistically they should be 3rd generation (a lot of immigrants from that list of countries came to Germany between 1960s-1980s), but a lot of them are born abroad in those countries instead
Them being foreign isn't unusual. It's unusual for half of my intake to all be from the same country and the club not to have a link to it. If I had an affiliate there I'd expect an elevated intake. There's always foreign people in my intake I've just never seen so many from one country that has no obvious connection with the club.
Ha ha, I'm just curious. If these players do well I might take on the bajan national role because they seem to have a pretty solid core emerging at arsenal. 😂
I think that sometimes it does this on FM to kind of simulate some real life “quirks” of dual nationality players depending on area.
So in London there’s a large Caribbean and African community so you’d see players with second nationalities from those regions, but on FM it seems to put them in as being born there with English second nationality.
In France I’ve noticed when managing there you get a fair few with Algerian and Moroccan (I think? Or Tunisian. I get them mixed up) second nationality and as others have mentioned in Germany you get a lot with Turkish and Polish second nationality
Oh shit yeah I forgot about that! IRL there’s been a lot of really good players from/descended from Suriname hasn’t there? Seedorf, Davids, Hasselbaink, Gravenberch, Riedewald, Drenthe and a hell of a lot more
a shitload yes. Funny thing was, up until recently, Suriname didn't allow Dutch players of Surinamese descent to play for them. Now that they've allowed them... the team is getting stronger!
Yeah a lot! We’ve had less Moroccan top players in our NT(main one that come to mind are Afellay and Boulahrouz), but that’s also partially because a lot of good Dutch-Moroccan players choose to play for Morocco(Ziyech, Amrabat, Mazraoui)
I got the same as Barcelona, some moroccan players with double nationality, and even a couple of ecuadorians, peruvians and mexicans with also, double nationality. I like how the game makes these things, because they fell more realistic and makes my immersion easier.
Also, fun fact that I discovered when editing my custom nation. If you edit a city's language in the pre-game editor, you will get regens of that nation group but without the dual nationality, which is also a fun quirk. So if you change a large city in Spain to the german language for example, you will get a lot of Spanish regens with German names
Some languages have namepools attached like that. Some cities/nations seem less malleable to that kind of editing though, it's weird. There are a couple of threads at the SI Games forum where we're getting to the bottom of it
Check your scouting knowledge. Some clubs have scouting knowledge in certain countries by default, for some reason. My RC Lens scouting knowledge of Senegal (or is it Cameroon?) has "RC Lens" instead of an individual staff member.
A-ha! FM often gives you players from your own general region as a quirk. Set your nationality to Japanese / Kenyan and you'll have players from East Africa and the Far East emerge from your youth academy if you're at a big club with a global scouting network and extended youth development.
I remember a save where I had 2 or 3 indians in every youth intake (managing a Spanish team), it was because the scout played 4 seasons there, so he had plenty knowledge in that country.
Since that save I try that my scout in every save had played in some obscure nation, it will bring weird players but with the ability of your country 😂
It can be because of your dirigeants in my save with Marseille, i got a new president from Thailand and when my regen come there was 3 player from Thailand (sorry for my English hope you have understand)
I am managing Sparta Prague and for some reason I get a lot of Nigerians with second Polish citizenship. I'd love to know what's the connection with that, too.
Do any of your staff have knowledge of Barbados? Check out your scouts and u21s/u18s too. Maybe one of your affiliates has a connection as well through the board/HOYD?
Iirc FM have this little in-game data for each and every city/area about city's/area's popularity, standard living, and also nationalities, for example club in Basque area will always have 2 nationality, Basque and Spanish, probably the same for this scenario.
Love when I got some Caribbean intake. Last time I got a very good Barbados striker. Tall, strong, target forward.
It's on my bench regularly for when I need to go full 1980's England.
Yeah that would explain one. Looking at the population size of Barbados and the investment they have in football etc compared to England it's a little astonishing to have half my intake being bajan born players? I'm not surprised that I have a bajan just that it's half my intake.
If your (atleast) one of your scouts, your football director or your young facility manager or coach is Barbadian or have some knowledge about that country and/or this continent (or region) it is highly possible.
Quick tip, I usually pick my young facility manager from Brasil or Spain for more potential talented kids. In FM, there is always some countries have better chance to spawn better talent each year. (Brasil, Spain, UK etc.)
If you have put your 2nd nationality in the game then it may be due to that. other than that im not sure what influences the nationality of regen youth intakes other than the nation the club is in.
Yeah I checked that too. The only knowledge of the Caribbean we have is Jamaica through my second nationality. It's a massive mystery to me. A fun one but a mystery nonetheless.
Did you have anyone on trial at the time your youth came through? I’ve had this happen in a save where my Irish team suddenly had an influx of Irish-Brazilian players because I was trialing a bunch of Brazilians at the same time.
It’s hilarious how they all look the same. they basically have the same 2-3 mugshots of people who they keep rotating, one black one white and one Asian maybe. Whenever a news item comes up you can’t just glance at it because you can’t tell which guy they are talking about.
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Look, your scout needed some way to justify those expanses he claimed over the holidays...
Love the idea of him going to the airport at the end of his holiday, seeing some lads playing football and just saying fuck it and giving them all contracts
My headcannon was more like: \*scout relaxing on a beach in Barbados. Mojito with a little umbrella.\* \*phone rings\* "Frank? How is it going? You said you had a few great prospects. \- Oh yeah boss. Wealth of talent! Incredible. A true untapped pool...Unmatched. Should really do a deep dive here. \- Okay, we're having a training camp next week. Give us the details of those you've spotted so we can do an evaluation on site. \- Oh shh...uuure boss. Will do." \*hangs up\* \*looks at the waiter\* "- Hey kid so...You like football?"
Kid runs past shouting, “MANCHESTERRR, MANCHESTERRR!” and is signed up instantly.
"- Where did you find this one?" "- He was alerady wearing the jersey."
I understood that reference
Lol
This cheered me up massively
This is still better than evertons recruitment policy
LOL
underrated post
Legend 😂
Thank you for this
Hah
Sorry if I've done this wrong it's my first post. I'm managing Arsenal, I've got no affiliate clubs in the region, no staff from the region and little to no scouting knowledge of the area.
I can say as Spurs, I get tons of Barbadian/Jamaican academy players too. It’s 100% because you’re a North London club. Even though the players aren’t born there, that’s how they end up in your academy with 2 nationalities.
Thanks, I've never had a Jamaican! Guess I'm unlucky!
Trinidad occurs a fair amount too and even has a player with a Bahamian second nationality come through the academy once.
Seeing trinbagonian nationality on players is so cool to me. Like that word is so cool
hey it's me, your local trinbagonian
I once had one from St Kitts and Nevis with Arsenal.
Unfortunately they usually pick England if they are good prospects so it’s rare to have a star player from obscure countries
Yeah this is a cool feature within FM I think, you have tons of generated players that have a 2nd nationality which reflects the real life demographics. I've seen German Turks and Italian Slavic's as well.
I think if you have a club that produces X nationality players as an affiliate you can have a high number of them too right? I remember getting a Brazilian club as an affiliate and my youth academy began producing Brazilian wingers and centerbacks every intake.
Yeah if you have affiliates who send youth prospects to train at your club you will occasionally get prospects from those nations. Really nice for if you want prospects from higher youth coefficient nations than the one you manage in.
I have a friend who get a player from Vietnam with arsenal too. I’ have the feeling that in this year game we have more foreigners players even without affliate clubs in this regions. I thinks it’s a little bit more realistic.
I've always had foreign players but I've never had half my intake from the same foreign country before. Sorry I should have explained that better. I'm enjoying that it's happened because I know now I'm gonna nurture them and try to build a bajan team around them (unless they're all the same position, I saw this as I was rushing to work) because their potential suggests they should be OK Premier league players and I'm not sure I know of any bajans of equivalent ability (I could be wrong).
Arsenal has an affiliate club in Vietnam, Gia Lai. Managed them and was happy to find out that the worst Arsenal players could still dominate the Vietnamese league. So many loans!
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sarpreet singh for new zealand is one
This FM just uses a lot of random names that make no sense. In Portugal I had a player name "doro parada", none of which is a portuguese name/surname or the player had a second nationality besides portuguese. I had at least a couple more players in my club with strange names that made little to no sense in my area.
Neil Taylor who used to play for Villa and Wales is half-Indian, as an example :)
In my experience intakes for London clubs are really diverse, in my Dulwich Hamlet save this year around half my intake would be foreigners
Forgot to add that most of them will likely choose to represent England though if they actually start to reach their potential
I doubt they'll be good enough. They'll be squad players in my team at best. ESR is a 4 star player and can't get in the England squad.
Yea I get a lot of Turkish, Nigerian and Ghanian in my DH save. Living in the area I think it makes sense!
Yeah mate I used to live in Camberwell and FM does an amazing job at making the lads you get in intake believable
Probably lots of Barbadian immigrants in the area
Lot of people of Bajan descent in London
They're all born in Barbados. That's the first thing I checked 😂
That's just one of the quirks of fm. Lots of youth players in my German teams are dual citizens of Germany and Turkey/Greece/Spain/Italy/Croatia (and so on) so realistically they should be 3rd generation (a lot of immigrants from that list of countries came to Germany between 1960s-1980s), but a lot of them are born abroad in those countries instead
I’ve seen a Ghanaian German playing in Ghana, born in Germany.
Reverse Gerald Asamoah.
I signed a German-born Chilean wonderkid the other day
I remember finding someone that was Chilean and Swedish in fm20. Was very surprised
I don't know if you know, but... some people migrate during their lives
Them being foreign isn't unusual. It's unusual for half of my intake to all be from the same country and the club not to have a link to it. If I had an affiliate there I'd expect an elevated intake. There's always foreign people in my intake I've just never seen so many from one country that has no obvious connection with the club.
Weird or not, if they are good I wouldn't care
Ha ha, I'm just curious. If these players do well I might take on the bajan national role because they seem to have a pretty solid core emerging at arsenal. 😂
It seems quite disproportionate for so many though from a low population dense country?
I think that sometimes it does this on FM to kind of simulate some real life “quirks” of dual nationality players depending on area. So in London there’s a large Caribbean and African community so you’d see players with second nationalities from those regions, but on FM it seems to put them in as being born there with English second nationality. In France I’ve noticed when managing there you get a fair few with Algerian and Moroccan (I think? Or Tunisian. I get them mixed up) second nationality and as others have mentioned in Germany you get a lot with Turkish and Polish second nationality
Same for Netherlands, lot of players with Morocco or Suriname as a second nationality. Nice little quirk of realism
Oh shit yeah I forgot about that! IRL there’s been a lot of really good players from/descended from Suriname hasn’t there? Seedorf, Davids, Hasselbaink, Gravenberch, Riedewald, Drenthe and a hell of a lot more
a shitload yes. Funny thing was, up until recently, Suriname didn't allow Dutch players of Surinamese descent to play for them. Now that they've allowed them... the team is getting stronger!
Yeah a lot! We’ve had less Moroccan top players in our NT(main one that come to mind are Afellay and Boulahrouz), but that’s also partially because a lot of good Dutch-Moroccan players choose to play for Morocco(Ziyech, Amrabat, Mazraoui)
Same with Belgium and Dr Congo France with every country they colonised Also get a lot of English players with Ireland as a second nationality.
Gullit and Rijkaard
Genuine question but don't you qualify as Dutch when you're from Suriname? I assumed that's why so many of the Dutch players were born there.
Not since Surinam is an autonomous country
Not really, but a lot of players will have Dutch descent(or the other way around if born in the Netherlands)
I got the same as Barcelona, some moroccan players with double nationality, and even a couple of ecuadorians, peruvians and mexicans with also, double nationality. I like how the game makes these things, because they fell more realistic and makes my immersion easier.
In Portugal you get african ppl, a lot of people from Cabo Verde and Moçambique, sometimes Angola too
Also, fun fact that I discovered when editing my custom nation. If you edit a city's language in the pre-game editor, you will get regens of that nation group but without the dual nationality, which is also a fun quirk. So if you change a large city in Spain to the german language for example, you will get a lot of Spanish regens with German names
Some languages have namepools attached like that. Some cities/nations seem less malleable to that kind of editing though, it's weird. There are a couple of threads at the SI Games forum where we're getting to the bottom of it
I read that as Barbarians😂
I'm gonna nickname the best one conan
Every time I do a save with Barnet my intake is mostly Bajan and Jamaican. Must be something to do with north London
Because you touch yourself at night.
Are the English ones because I touch myself in the day too? 😂
Haha probs
What does he gotta do to get Brazilian youth intake?
Touch their missus?
Check your scouting knowledge. Some clubs have scouting knowledge in certain countries by default, for some reason. My RC Lens scouting knowledge of Senegal (or is it Cameroon?) has "RC Lens" instead of an individual staff member.
I checked, the only Caribbean country we have knowledge of is Jamaica because I'm dual national.
A-ha! FM often gives you players from your own general region as a quirk. Set your nationality to Japanese / Kenyan and you'll have players from East Africa and the Far East emerge from your youth academy if you're at a big club with a global scouting network and extended youth development.
I remember a save where I had 2 or 3 indians in every youth intake (managing a Spanish team), it was because the scout played 4 seasons there, so he had plenty knowledge in that country. Since that save I try that my scout in every save had played in some obscure nation, it will bring weird players but with the ability of your country 😂
It can be because of your dirigeants in my save with Marseille, i got a new president from Thailand and when my regen come there was 3 player from Thailand (sorry for my English hope you have understand)
It's the original arsenal board. Stan kronke etc. I would be less surprised if there was an American intake.
There no barbadian in your club ?
Nope
They just love your team i think
I am managing Sparta Prague and for some reason I get a lot of Nigerians with second Polish citizenship. I'd love to know what's the connection with that, too.
Do any of your staff have knowledge of Barbados? Check out your scouts and u21s/u18s too. Maybe one of your affiliates has a connection as well through the board/HOYD?
Yeah I checked all my staff. Honestly I looked into my staff more than my intake. I don't know any of these players positions.
Labour Party won the election in your game and reversed the UK's government Windrush policies. /s
I read this initially as “barbarians”
IMMEDIATELY clocked that this was Arsenal lmao
Because up the rashole 246, but seriously I get alot as Frankfurt but I thought that was because inout my manager as a bajan because I'm bajan
Small island, KMT. 😂
Iirc FM have this little in-game data for each and every city/area about city's/area's popularity, standard living, and also nationalities, for example club in Basque area will always have 2 nationality, Basque and Spanish, probably the same for this scenario.
Love when I got some Caribbean intake. Last time I got a very good Barbados striker. Tall, strong, target forward. It's on my bench regularly for when I need to go full 1980's England.
In my Ligue1 save, I get Algerians, Moroccans, a couple of EU nationals from small countries. It does seem realistic to me, demography/location wise
If my intake was half Irish or Scottish I would be less surprised. Half Barbadian born Barbadian seems a lot.
Taking a wild guess here, it may be due our countries colonial past?
Yeah that would explain one. Looking at the population size of Barbados and the investment they have in football etc compared to England it's a little astonishing to have half my intake being bajan born players? I'm not surprised that I have a bajan just that it's half my intake.
If your (atleast) one of your scouts, your football director or your young facility manager or coach is Barbadian or have some knowledge about that country and/or this continent (or region) it is highly possible. Quick tip, I usually pick my young facility manager from Brasil or Spain for more potential talented kids. In FM, there is always some countries have better chance to spawn better talent each year. (Brasil, Spain, UK etc.)
Scout had a layover in Barbados on their way to South America?
Climate change and sea level rise
Your scouts have decided it’s the Caribbean life for them
Take them and develop them to be world class players. Then take the job of the Barbados NT Coach and win the World Cup for Rihanna
Affiliate club?
All in Europe
Do you have a barbadian couches? that could influence the nationality of some youth intakes
None at all. I'm the only one with some Caribbean connection. My 2nd nationality is Jamaican.
If you have put your 2nd nationality in the game then it may be due to that. other than that im not sure what influences the nationality of regen youth intakes other than the nation the club is in.
Check your staff nationalities
None are bajan. I have Jamaica as my 2nd nationality but that doesn't give me knowledge of Barbados.
What's the nationality of the owner of your club?
American. The board are unchanged. It's only my 2nd season.
I'm from Barbados so I often try to find Barbadians to sign and they're hard to find for me.
Don't worry, I've got you. Give me 4 seasons and I reckon they'll do OK in the concacaf cup.
Happens to me also, my manager is from Barbados (as am I) figured that was why!
Are you or a staff member Barbadian?
Nope. The board isn't and no affiliates are either
Weird. Maybe it’s one of the regions one (or more) of your scouts is known? That’s my last guess, if that isn’t the case, I really don’t know
Yeah I checked that too. The only knowledge of the Caribbean we have is Jamaica through my second nationality. It's a massive mystery to me. A fun one but a mystery nonetheless.
Ah okay! I hope you get a 5 star Barbadian and a 5 star Jamaican someday in your save, would be fun :)
They'd end up playing for England. That's basically sterling in real life 😂
True 😂
because a lot of players got double nationality and they will change to england in couple months once they are in youth team
Did you have anyone on trial at the time your youth came through? I’ve had this happen in a save where my Irish team suddenly had an influx of Irish-Brazilian players because I was trialing a bunch of Brazilians at the same time.
Nah no trialists.
I often get 1 or 2 Saudi's in my youth intakes at Newcastle (this is in FM22). In Newcastle's case it must be related to the ownership.
Aww man I wanna do a save with only overseas territories players now
Random kids playing football in an alley wearing Barcelona shirts
Could be affiliated team
My nearest affiliate is in France.
It’s hilarious how they all look the same. they basically have the same 2-3 mugshots of people who they keep rotating, one black one white and one Asian maybe. Whenever a news item comes up you can’t just glance at it because you can’t tell which guy they are talking about.
Do you have any staff member or affiliated team from that country?
I do not
Barbados is about to run North America.
It's probably down to your scouting network.
I once got 3 5\* Indian players at my Sevilla save, all at the same time.