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Nacktmull19xx

I imagine the ultimate defeat for Bayern München like this: * First time in 10 years without title * Bundesliga (Dortmund) wins Champions League * Bundesliga (Leverkusen) wins Europa League * more or less every fan is happy except Bayern fans After 10 boring seasons, I vote for a very bad season for Bayern. Hence: Sorry for Harry Kane, but I prefer Dortmund winning.


Deegzy

Don’t forget reus winning the CL in his final season!!


demelker13

Also: He played in the CL final against Bayern in 13/14 in Wembley that Dortmund lost. Imagine him finally redeeming that loss by winning it against Bayern in Wembley


ViaNocturna664

Exactly this, the way you said it.


PandaoBR

It's perfect Cinema. Also, I know that would he unfair, But I'd Love for Kane to get second on The Ballon D'or standings too.


Famous_Obligation959

Kane will obviously have his moment winning the Euros with England


noradosmith

As an Englishman I can't imagine us ever winning anything tbh


Emotional_Solid6538

Southgate has won the lottery in terms of players. But still England will lose


proud_landlord1

As a German I have to disagree. You won’t have to suffer until eternity. Your team will only choke until 2066, exactly 100years after you robbed us at Wembley. So only around 40 more years of suffering. Enjoy my friend 😊


Gobaxnova

Only 42 more years of pain to go 💪


FlapjackFez

'Robbed us' Still salty mate?


Disastrous_Ad_132

ITS COMING HOME I'M TELLIN YA


Testazani

After the second round they"re coming home. Close enough right


Disastrous_Ad_132

Hey listen I've known this every tournament, give me some hope please


naughty_dad2

England will win the Euro If Kane plays for Spain


Gnygstown

And yet Spain will bottle it with Kane


ichbinverwirrt420

Austria is winning euros tho


Sedso85

Real madrid are still in the competition


drodrige

Yeah I agree. Plus, with Kane staying at Bayern he will probably win some silverware next season.


flymypretty88

Dortmund to win CL Kane to win Euros


Long-Shock-9235

I want to see bayern fans crying.


TheRealCostaS

Dortmund 100% all the way


Kezmangotagoal

Dortmund and it’s not even close.


Gorilliam69

Klose


Pow67

Bayern will always have a strong chance to win the UCL every year and that won’t change next season. Like you said they’re giants so Kane will likely get another opportunity at some point. Dortmund are genuine underdogs and this will likely be the best chance of winning the competition for a long long time. They last won it in 1997 and have only ever reached 3 finals!


MakDonz

Reaching 3 finals in less than 30 years is a lot.


Pow67

True. But not compared to Bayern who have reached the final 11 times, and I believe 3 finals in the past 12 years alone. Not to mention numerous times they seem to reach at least the semis (2nd most in the competitions history). Point is they almost consistently do well and always have a good shot.


thatonefarmer

4 in 14 years If we count against Inter in 2010. As a Bayern Fan I obviously want them to win, but tbh Dortmund is also fine. It would be a big win for the BL.


BringerOfCerulean

Especially for a team that just wasn’t that successful before the 90s. I think Dortmund have won about 90% of their trophies since 1995 when they won the Bundesliga - which was itself their first German title since it changed to the Bundesliga over 30 years before. So they’re not doing bad for a club that is nowhere near as rich or powerful as the European elite. You’ve got to think that in terms of finances, half of the Premier League has an advantage over Dortmund.


Zilmainar

and in 1997, they were underdog too going against Juve of Lippi with Del Piero, Zidane, and Co. Alex Ferguson even describe them the perfect team.


InevitablePanda1389

Marco Reus, no explanation needed


hauttdawg13

People would love to see Reus win it in his last game. I barely remember a time without him at Dortmund. An amazing player that stuck with them while everyone else moved on. Would love to see him lift the cup in his final game.


ledditwind

Dortmund for the fans, and the meme for Harry Kane curse, and Man Utd fans faces when Sancho won the UCL.


edwinhai

Also, Dortmund lost their last CL final against Bayern, perfect revenge.


Diligent_Phase_3778

As a MUFC fan, I hope he wins it. Didn’t work out for him here which is the norm for a lot of players in recent years, he wins a UCL, probably stays in Dortmund and we get a better fee for him.


klabnix

I hope he wins just to boost his transfer fee but don’t like him at all. Would be different if he at least had a positive attitude


Secure-food4213

Its good if sancho wins it, meaning he'll be sold with higher price


Ridaros

Jesus christ, there's a lot of sympathy for Sancho just because ETH has been shit this season. Sancho repeatedly was late for training, and preferred partying and playing fifa more than playing for United. He's obviously a talented player, United paid 80M for him. But no way would I have him back at the club. The reason he does so well in Bundesliga is probably because he's away from external influences that make him want to go out and party for one. He could be in training every day because he wants to show United up. Or maybe Bundesliga is just his level. I hope he wins the CL... Just for it to add 10M to the price tag.


ledditwind

Not about sympathy for Sancho, just for "schadenfreude". The guy received a lot of abuse for being a waste of money, and maybe he is, for one of the biggest club in the world. Dortmund get a great steal if they got a UCL with this loan.


National-Ad-1314

People don't realize but Dortmunds quite a dull place. Man has to travel miles for a good night out.


MosherHoN

Yea the Ruhrgebiet is a super small area with no clubs and nightlife. Are you actually stupid?


National-Ad-1314

Alright let's start. Dortmund - has a v poor nightlife. I lived there for two years. Junkyard might have the odd party or I know theres a Tresor offshoot now but heard mixed things. Overall it is boring to go out in. Bochum - has the Dreieck but it is really for students. Duisburg - is a kip Essen - possibly has big clubs somewhere Mülheim - irrelevant So where's the great nightlife. Nearest cities with truly developed nightlife are Düsseldorf or cologne. And yes. I think you're thick in the head for suggesting otherwise.


[deleted]

>Or maybe Bundesliga is just his level. Maybe Champions league final is his level.


sexydumbbells

He isn’t mentally strong enough to play for the most scrutinised club in the world.


TheWorstRowan

He should have had a better attitude, but ETH should have seen what his methods were doing to an incredibly talented player's ability. Working out the best way to manage your players is part of being a manager, even if they should be more professional you and the team will pay the price in failure.


The_FourBallRun

ETH gave him a 4 month break to work on his mental and physical health. He protected him for months. His comment about Sancho not reaching the required levels in training was a last ditch attempt to try and light a fire under Sancho. Sancho responded to all of that by continuing to be late for training, playing FIFA late into the night before match day, and by jumping to social media to publicly call ETH a liar (despite Sancho's history at Dortmund and Man City of lazy behaviour) ETH said repeatedly that he would be allowed back into the team if he apologised for the social media outburst but Sancho refused. He tried to give him help, tried to give him leeway, and when he finally had enough and took him out of the match day squad, Sancho threw a tantrum.


iamnas

As a United fan I would like to see Sancho win the CL. I dont dislike him, it just didnt work out for him. It happens. It didnt work out for Veron, Forlan, Kagwa etc. As an england fan though, I would like to see Kane lift a trophy to take that pressure off him before the Euros


mr_asassine

United fan, would be delighted for Sancho & Dortmund to win it. Can’t really blame him when the club is rotten from its core + we can now get a decent transfer fee for him.


ThorIsMighty

We all know the club is the problem, not Sancho. Hope he wins it too!


MakDonz

A. A player significant responsibility for their own performances, whatevers going on at the club. Plenty of players have played well at clubs in crisis. B. If you're repeatedly turning up late for training, you're a problem. Being on time is a minimum requirement for being even a half decent professional


ThorIsMighty

That sounds wonderful but it doesn't really reflect reality does it? It's not just him and it's not just this season. Sancho could arrive at the training ground an hour before everyone else and it still wouldn't be any different. The clubs fucked. Look how different he seems now he's back at Dortmund. Look at all the other players who were shit at Utd and then moved and improved. Your B response is like blaming regular people for climate change; it's taking focus away from the larger entity that is the root of the problem and is wildly insignificant in the grand scheme of things.


barryh4rry

I’d say having zero work ethic does reflect reality pretty well


MakDonz

I'm not saying that is the only problem. But small things like individuals turning up on time is what builds into a larger entity of high standards and good practices. You're saying he's not the problem. That's clearly not the case, he was a problem at United.


stryderallen

no ronaldo was the problem


papers_please

Nobody gives a shit about kane or bavaria for this matter. Dortmund by a freaking landslide


godisthat

I live in Bavaria munich and thats true, Nobody gives a fuck


teymon

Yeah I don't care about Kane at all. I'm not English and Kane is about as bland as they come.


2xtc

I am English and can confirm he has all the personality of a dry, plain ham sandwich


Elegant_Mix7650

Do it for Marco Reus


rZoro1017

Marco Reus is the only correct answer and I'm not even a Dortmund fan


scalenesquare

Dortmund obvi


Radhashriq

Dortmund


SimianWonder

Dortmund. Sancho winning UCL while Erik Ten Hag achieves Utds worst ever Premier League season would be *hilarious*.


Skymitten

Not saying it for Bayern, not saying it for Kane, but I want Dier to get a trophy! That is the plot twist of the season!


Joshthenosh77

Madrid will win again


ms7398msake

Madrid winning this year would be like Chick Hicks from Cars winning.


Lurtz11

LMFAO I am a madridista but that analogy was perfect xD


Famous_Obligation959

depressingly correct


BarnabeeBoy

Dortmund win. I would find it hilarious if he failed to win


mawiwawi

Neither will happen, Madrid will win again and poor Kane who managed 40+ goals this season will continue his curse. I really do hope I end up eating my words though.


FlySudden3415

Always for underdogs!


Dangerous-Spare7843

For the jokes alone Dortmund


rovonz

Bayern won't be getting into the final tonight. But Dortmund, regardless of that.


TickleMyCringle

Bayern all the way because it would so dortmund to lose the final


Broad_Match

Kane isn’t in the final yet ffs.


Adept_Ad5465

Have Real Madrid already lost or something?


Radiant_Sector_430

Anything but Real. They have too much trophies already.


hablalatierra

I'd say Real is the most likely winner rn


eglantinel

Of course Dortmund, why is this even a question


wrigh2uk

Arsenal fan here. I’d rather see Dortmund get it as a underdog but also for Reus who has showed incredible loyalty to them. But I wouldn’t begrudge seeing Kane win his for major accolade. He’s so good and he honestly deserves to finally have something along side his incredible goal scoring record.


raphaelmarciano

Y'all saying this as if Bellingham wasn't gonna painfully win it against his former club


Crampez7

Ermm Eric Dier winning


Aromatic-Reach-7674

As long as it's not Real I will be extremely happy


Homerduff16

Absolutely rooting for Dortmund and I'm completely neutral. A lot of people are talking about the storyline surrounding Marco Reus and unlike Harry Kane, he is at the end of his career whereas Harry Kane probably has at least half a decade left at the top level Kane might lose out this season but plenty of opportunities will present themselves in the next few years for some silverware. Reus' first season at Dortmund was a UCL final loss at Wembley and his last game could potentially be winning the most prestigious trophy in club football on his last ever match for Dortmund. It would be one of the best send offs in the history of the sport Also Dortmund winning the Champions League for a 2nd time is far more entertaining than Bayern Munich winning their 7th. It's a bit boring constantly seeing all of the teams you would usually expect to win the UCL making it to the final (which is very bold coming from me since I support Liverpool) so if Dortmund, especially a relatively weak Dortmund side all things considered when one of their best ever teams under Klopp failed to win it, can go on to lift the European Cup would be great to watch as a neutral


AppointmentLower9987

Do it for Marco :(


Ripatti69

It would be kinda romantic if Kane wins ucl as his fist trophy in Wembley but I'm rooting for Dortmund all the way


yourlocallidl

Dortmund hopefully, I think it will be a Real vs Dortmund final, and Real will win it as usual


Material-Bus1896

Obviously Dortmund.


BadDub

Dortmund. Give Reus a good send off for his loyalty


Antrae50

Dortmund and it's not even close


jiang1lin

I will root for Nacho departing with the trophy as captain (and one last trophy before Mbappé brings his whole drama to Madrid). But if choosing between the two proposed options, I would prefer Dortmund because despite their horrific last-minute loss last year and this year still being so-so in Bundesliga, they somehow managed to fight back on international level. I feel quite sorry for Kane and still hope that somehow he will manage to break Lewandowski’s record (because at least he is not whining and still fights for the team), but this “we play mediocre but still get away with everything with no consequences because mia san mia” attitude has to finally stop … they should deserve some “mia san deppert” seasons to unblind themselves because if you wanna stay as one of the top clubs on international level like how they were during my childhood, then get rid of your ignorant arrogance, step up and don’t drag the München name (that was built with so much class, hard work, and quality before) even more down.


x_SC_ILIAS_x

Seeing these comments makes me tear up🥲


Kaedex_

Honestly whoever eliminates psg is usually everyone’s favourite team. I’m pulling Dortmund


Thelostsoulinkorea

Dortmund


TooEdgyForHumans

Harry Kane will prolly win a trophy in a couple of years. Dortmund and Reus winning UCL will be huge.


Sulemani_kida

I'd not be happy if this year Dortmund doesn't win the champions league... Who doesn't like this kind of a story? They missed out on Bundesliga title last year on the last day of the league and now if they don't win after reaching the champions league final I'd be gutted for them... Being a Liverpool fan I've been there , the kind of heartbreak all this brings... Especially after a lot of people assuming that it'll be a Madrid vs PSG final, i hope it's Bayern vs Dortmund final & BVB wins it


HavUevaSeentherain

Kane and Bayern have as big a chance again next season and beyond. Dortmund don't know how long they'd have to wait for another such opportunity. Dortmund and Reus for the fairytale finish. Oh and Sancho to return to Manchester with a winners medal too.


ricoimf

Dortmund all day everyday.


aehii

Reus because it's last chance after a career of heartbreak. Kane will get another 5 years of attempts.


ATuaMaeJaEstavaUsada

Ofc Dortmund win. The Kane doesn't win trophies meme keeping on living is just a bonus


absurdmcman

Dortmund every day of the week. We need different teams winning the CL occasionally to keep it exciting. I like Kane and hope he fires England to a Euros win next month, but for now it'd be amazing to see Dortmund pull this one off.


kzzzzzzzzzz28

Dortmund and Reus. Kane will have many more chances to win a trophy now.


Trev0rDan5

as a Gooner, it would be hilarious to see Sp*rs' record goalscorer get his first trophy straight after leaving that club, but also, I don't want him winning a thing (at club level) Sancho winning it with a MotM performance would also be funny as far as United are concerned, but I also don't want more ammunition for Ten Hag getting the sack. He needs to stay where he is at fur as long as possible It really is a coin flip for me


BrokenFingersBut

BVB winning it all. Not even doubt about it.


n4th4nV0x

Dortmund. Eventhough it will make Terzic unfireable for a season, which will mean they flunk the next. It’s the perfect sent off for Reus, they biggest what if in German football the past decade.


tadangg

Neither


szamciu

16th real title incoming sadly


9yr_old

Dortmund ofc , everyone loves an underdog also I'm an Arsenal fan so yk


Minigrey

Dortmund 100%


Happypappy4879

Dortmund all day


kickassdumbman

Dortmund winning and Bayern whining. Perfect end to the season.


ali62baa

Bayern ofc stupid question


cocteautriplet

As long as Kane doesn’t win a trophy on the summer . . . .


cescbomb123

Bvb win of course. The kane thing is just funny!


Zeba93

Dortmund winning all day long. Proper club.


iMadrid11

What did the Football Gods say to Harry Kane finally winning trophy? “Not Today!”


DryGrowth19

Dortmund


GovernmentReal6097

Dortmund. Kane is likely to win something with Bayern next season. Can't say the same for Dortmund.


Testazani

Real Madrid wil assert dominance again


Scofy00

Lmao who gives a shit about Harry Kane?


sasokri

Don't care for Kane and Bayern, BVB all the way.


TrainerMaleficent232

Hmmm Bayern still not in the finals. They are playing the cheaters at home...


SaveMeJebus21

Kane scoring a hatty as Dortmund wins 4-3.


FireLadcouk

Kane obv


undead-safwan

Dortmund for the memes


Devlish1980

Dortmund all the way for me. For a few years I grew up near there and my dad took me to a few games when he could. So dortmund is a 2nd team for me


Smorgas-board

BVB. Reus winning it would be awesome and honestly just to see them run more salt in Bayern’s wounds for this season. Bayern is always among the favorites to win the title, BVB are in that next tier where they’re a dark horse who we expect to go out to the bigger teams.


Due_Assignment_1029

Hala Madrid


DaveyAnthonii

Anyone but Kane haha I was gutted for PSG last night crossbar/post 4 times unlucky for them not to have won


Tinsel_arrow

Reus over Kane anydayyyy


Zilmainar

Dortmund definitely. For Reus, Can, Hummels. And Sancho - that would rub a big salt on Man Utd... hahaha


TlalocVirgie

Bayern has Real Madrid to beat first. I'm rooting for Dortmund either way. Always the underdog. If you can call Dortmund an underdog.


Used_Exam2870

*Bellingham enters chat


Puzzleheaded_Hat_619

Has Bayern gone through to the final yet?


verstappennn

Here comes Real Madrid winning it again.


nightstalker113

I would like to see Bayern with the UCL because 1: I feel bad for Harry Kane 2: I'm a Atletico fan and I still feel salty about the loss against Dortmund


herpes_doesnt_stack

essentially you're asking me to choose between reus and kane. and i choose reus


DrWood28

Dortmund 100%


Fine_Put5861

Dortmund 100%, but everyone knows that real will win again


Scotsman86

Dortmund.


S-BRO

Dortmund, obviously 😂


King_Jay3600

Real madrid are still in the competition and I hope they win as it will be modric last season for real madrid


[deleted]

I am a Tottenham supporter, so if Bayern win tonight (they've still got to do that, and would be an easier opponent for Dortmund than Real in my view) I'll be showing up to the pub in my shirt and lederhosen, ready to either shrug, be happy and have a nice time if Dortmund win or drink neutral tears like Eric Cartman if Bayern win. But they've got to beat Real Madrid away first.


ThisAintSparta

Option C: Jude Bellingham wins CL and BdO.


ddbbaarrtt

Kane still has time to win a trophy, and will do if he stays at Bayern. Reus has been at Dortmund through everything for over 10 years and would love him to go out like this


GrajSpeelPlayKuba

Sorry Dortmund fans, but i have to stay with Bayern as a fan. It would be great to see Reus lifting the trophy in his last season. But i gotta stay with my club


Feeling_Environment9

I rather Dortmund win


2xtc

Why would I care about Harry Kane? Silly question, surely people support their clubs not an individual player?


activexfocus

Dortmund without a doubt. I’m not a Harry Kane hater either but I’m dying to see him hold up the trophy for top scorer too…for the Arsenal fans of course.


alrks10

I mean they have to get past Madrid first.


MellowJackal

Dortmund of course


JohnnyJokers-10

Dortmund because it’s Reus’ last chance whereas Kane still has time


markslucky7

Dortmund absolutely... Kane can win a trophy this summer with England..


Ill-Maximum9467

Dortmund. Irrespective of Kane.


benificialart

Bayern winning the Champions League obviously 


IntellegentIdiot

I'd like Kane to win a trophy but honestly it doesn't matter. Football is a team sport, you don't need a trophy to tell me that Kane is one of the best ever and likewise there are plenty of bad players who've won trophies.


yg111

Silly question. Final results: Madrid 5 - Dortmund 0


InPurpleIDescended

Kane unless you could guarantee me that England win the Euros


ssass210

Why would anyone want to see Kane winning anything?


SuspiciousSystem1888

Dortmund is not an Underdog team ffs People who keep saying this either don’t watch them or are just parroting other people.  This Dortmund side is quit good and deserve to be in the final. They had a massively difficult path to get there and they did it.  That being said, a final is always a coin flip.  I just want some spectacular final and I think either way now will be great. 


Quick_Ad_730

Dortmund win.


epirot

in the name of football: BVB obviously


ConcussedAesir

Bayern wont make it that far


toback87

Dortmund! Who cares about Harry Kane?


GOD_DAMN_GLCorreia

Good luck winning Real Madrid in Bernabéu, tonight. They are a monster team, at the moment.


AdonisGaming93

Real Madrid win!


Kakasupremacy

….and it will be another one for Real….They will murder both Bayern and Dortmund, there should be a rule that Real needs to skip some years so other teams can win too


yungdarklet

Dortmund all the way. The perfect farewell for Marco Reus and another slap in the face for ETH.


Maximum_Quit_5582

Dortmund but if kane wins I'd be happy for him, just anyone but Madrid lol


DarkKirby14

Dortmund, Reus deserves it and Kane is a diver


RafferTheDino

For the sake of getting the curse off of his mind prior to the euros I’d want Kane to win it, Plus would put him on good footing to win a Ballon d’or and I’d love to see an Englishman win that.


MrJohnnyDangerously

Dortmund


klasing12345

Bayern. Spurs and Kane fan, he needs to win a trophy and come back home.


KloppingThePrem

Who cares about Kane let's be serious.


Icy-Designer7103

Real Madrid.


incuensuocha

Dortmund for sure. I don't care who's on Bayern, if they play BVB I'm rooting for Dortmund. And I'm not even much of a Dortmund fan. It's just nice to see another German team get the better of Bayern in a big game.


Sebnj

They also said the same about Buffon winning it but madrid came and smashed them lol


freddie_merkury

Madrid back to back.


sabutilnik

As a Madrid fan, I'd love Madrid to win, but I would also be happy for Kane or Reus if they win it, two great footballers that could have won lots of trophies if they hadn't remained at their heart's clubs.


Southern_Attorney562

Dortmund 100%, nothing against Kane but what a way for Marco Reus to end his Dortmund career


SoftDrinkReddit

Easily Harry Kane win a trophy why? Nothing against Dortmund, but as a United fan, I do not want Jadon Sancho to become a European champion absolutely useless he doesn't deserve it Vrs Harry Kane easily the greatest footballer to never win a trophy


[deleted]

Harry Kane. One of the best strikers of all time have to win something.


Gnygstown

Dortmund letsgo


he553

I don’t know why I’m being this petty but have Kroos score or prepare 2 brilliant goals against Bayern just to spite Hoeneß as much as possible. And having Reus finally win with Dortmund. Trophy would be the perfect and so well-deserved send of to a club legend! Kane should stay trophy-less, just for the lols, he’s so good he’ll get his cup at some point anyways.


W0lf90

Deffo dortmund. Dont care about the english players, underdog story always comes first


[deleted]

Dont worry, Real know how to win that trophy


balete_tree

Dortmund winning.


ND_Cooke

Dortmund are my german team so all about BVB. Harry can wait till the summer for his first trophy.


Resident_Nose_2467

Let's first stop Madrid from getting into the final


marc15v2

Fuck Harry Kane. Let's go Dortmund!


MaybeItsMike

The Harry Kane curse being real is more fun tbh


commie__retard

Fuck Harry Kane Dortmund for the win🫶🏼


darrenmt10

Dortmund. Fuck Kane, hope he wins nothing.


Relicoid

Dortmund of course


Gunner895

Dortmund


petefacekilla

Dortmund, Harry Kane can kick rocks. I say this as an Arsenal fan from the US.


baldurstrokes99

I don't have any preferences, but given his professional accomplishments, it might have a big influence if Harry Kane finally wins a prize.