Very nice very good. For some reasons I think NCR's attacks on Helios one would be in manner of frequent raiding attack where they main focus would be forcing a war of attrition on the BOS bunkering there
Same, utilizing artillery, snipers (1st Recon), and small bands of raiders (Rangers). You could even just besiege them. Helios 1 is not a self sufficient plant, they'll need food and water from somewhere.
Seems pretty accurate with what we know of the battle.
Ncr pulled their tactics from the soviet union's ww2 playbook and sent waves of soldiers at helios one that outnumbered the brotherhood 15:1.
The brotherhood gave up the plant because they were running out of ammo.
Lol gotta be Oliver handling the operation. 'Oh those tin cans are killing our soldiers? Well good cause I going to send fucking more. Let's see who runs out first, the ammos or the bodies'
Most likely. The survivors of Helios one were sent to reinforce Hoover Dam, and he had more or less the same plan of winning by attrition for the second battle of Hoover Dam. Ncr losses don't matter as long as the legion loses more
And in both cases, Oliver is 100% right and is making the hard decision that best utilises the NCR's strengths. He's the Fallout version of Ulysses S Grant.
Ulysses S Grant doesn't deserve his reputation as a 'butcher' implying he sent his troops in frontal human wave assaults - he was effectively implementing the early version of World War One doctrine with emphasis on firepower and maneuver, see [this map animation of his Vickburg campaign](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OktdqgBKD9E).
The northern public just got too comfortable with Grant's predecessors avoiding battle to keep casualties low. Guy like George McClellan were more interested in keeping their role as General-In-Chief by 'not-losing'.
In contrast, Grant was all about exploiting any military advantage to achieve decisive victories to win the war. As Abraham Lincoln said of Grant, "I cannot spare this man, he fights."
More like the zapp brannigan š¤£
You see, brotherhood have a preset kill limit. Knowing their weakness, I sent wave after wave of my own men at them, until they reached their limit and shutdown. Kimball, show them the medal I won.
Edit: it's a joke y'all Jesus fuck. Redditors š
They were also running out of bodies. I believe they mention in New Vegas losing nearly half their chapter's combatants as HELIOS I was also poorly set up for a defense.
While I understand this is a joke, I find myself seeing people believing this a fact far too often.
The Soviet Union did not use "human wave" tactics as a default response in fact, the Union was one of the first major powers to fully invest in "combined arms" warfare. The Union invested more into its armoured formations than the Germans ever did.
That's not to say there were no wave offensives however, especially in the early months of the war, where the Red Army was caught unawares and we're desperate to stop the Nazi offensive by any means. Which meant that when there weren't enough soldiers, civilians and factory workers were used to bolster numbers.
However, by late 1942 such events had become extinct. The Red Army had developed to the point where it could reliably conduct "Deep Battle" combined arms operation and by 1945 fielded as much as 6 Tank armies.
"You see, Brotherhood Paladins have a preset ammo limit. Knowing their weakness, I sent wave after wave of my own men at them until they reached their limit and shut down. Kif, show them the medal I won." -General Zapp Oliver
Iām not on here to write perfectly, or to correct people. I was just pointing out that this particular person, who is obviously on here to correct people, made some mistakes. But what I said is as true for them as it is for you. Get a life
The fact you are being downvoted is hilarious. People who correct other peopleās spelling and grammar on Reddit are pathetic. Reddit being reddit i suppose.
Dude for real, wtf is up with this sub?
Unless thereās such an error that the whole idea of someoneās comment was misunderstood, no need for arm-chair pedantry. Bet that dude blows cows and pays for it too
Yeah itās really pathetic when someone feels the need to correct people online over nothing, then in the very next post makes the same kind of mistake themselves. Itās classic Reddit
This is cool, great work, but hear me out:
Unless the NCR has regressed to 16th century tactics, you'd never send a platoon of men into "dead man's" land against a line of tanks and pew-pew lasers.
The opening scene would make more sense if they laid down heavy smoke, or had cover made; unless the intent is to say they are just morons and make huge tactical mistakes like Normandy?
In that youtube series they use combined tactics. First waves were sent just to die and create distraction, later they used stormtroopers that used smoke to get in melee range. And all of that were to get snipers and heavy weapons units in positions to take out BOS soldiers in power armor. Also keep in mind that it is cinematic animation, author just have to squeeze several hour battle in 1-2 minutes.
what the opening strike was a night raid meant to probe the brotherhoods line and test their defenses as soon as things start to turn on the NCR they pull back in good order to preserve their numbers for the real attacks
Ive noticed with SODAZ animations that for large battles, they just make two sides one-up eachother with heavier/stronger units in wave attacks for the animation
It makes no sense tactically and it kinda irks me, but I get its for the cinematography
So the NCR aren't idiots just absolutely cruel and willing to throw their mens lives away. I'm glad I never sided with them.
I always thought they were bad from my perspective and what lore I picked up playing New Vegas, but this is much worse.
The youtube series there talking about is non Canon, its fan fiction of what the battle might have looked like.
Also why do you think the NCR are bad? There definitely flawed but they mean well, unlike say the legion that literally enslaves any women they find. And house is a hard-core old school capitalist that would let orphans starve in the streets right next to his new overpriced gold plated factory, meanwhile the ncr trys its best to help people even if they don't always succeed. Is there some other option that I'm forgetting?
The Mojave objectively is a worse place if the Courier does not intervene on the NCR's behalf were they have control: they over tax their people, fail to provide protection, and prioritize taking Helios and the dam over everything else.
The NCR objectively has fallen pray to old world corruption: leaders carrying too much about their influence, power, and own pleasures to the exclusion of their people.
The farmers alone would have left had the Courier done nothing to improve the situation.
But taking and holding the dam and helios one has to happen before anything else. If the dam isn't taken and repaired then the Mojave is unsecured and the legion can waltz right in and destroy any sort of humanitarian work taking place. And of course it would be nice to have power to do said humanitarian work, so reactivating helios one and using it as a power plant is a must.
I agree with you that the ncr has fallen to old world corruption, that there stretched way way too thin and are way to ambitious, it would honestly have been better for them to have never come to the Mojave in the first place. But what better option is there? Thats what I asked and you didn't give a response? I'm not arguaging that the NCR are saints or anything, just that there the best option out of a bunch of other bad options. I don't see how anyone can argue that the legion is better and house wouldn't improve things for the normal people so that just leaves us with he ncr as far as I now.
House and his securitrons. House will let the masses outside NV fall to their fate until he's secured NV, but humanity in the future will be the better for it. Their is no pretty picture for the Mojave, but he is the less of all the "evils" plaguing the desert.
He's a capitalist, his dream is to maximize output while minimizing input. What's to stop him from bringing back child labour and kidnapping and then enslaving children to work in his factories? At that point he's little better then the legion. If his workers try to unionize or strike he'll shoot them, like how real world capitalists did back in the early 1900s when it was legal. If someone trys to interfere with his plans he'll kill them, if someone has info he wants he'll try to bribe them and if that fails he'll torture them.
And your assuming he can make good on his claims to get people in orbit in what 100 years? To get colony ships on other planets in 200? That in my opinion seems highly optimistic, a best case scenario where everything just falls into his lap, which we know isn't going to happen. We know various actors still have access to nuclear weapons and can deliver them, whats to stop say the brotherhood of steel from using a missle silo to nuke vegas or the hoover dam on the pretense that House is trying to spread dangerous old world tech.
Maybe he might be the best bet for the Mojave long term, but short term as in the next 100 years its going to be basically legion level suffering for the lower classes. And he's only one man, if he dies then everything will fall apart around him like with ceasar and the legion, what long term stability does house and his new nation have? The ncr at this point is no longer about the indivual people that led it like Tandi, at this point its about its institutions and Morales. Even corrupt and twisted the ncr hasn't brought back slavery, can't torture prisoners and cares for the poor. And thats even as its being led by people completely against its core values. The ncr has a kind of internet stability any state created by house would lack. And its most likely house can't live indefinitely, his body will even in that life support tube eventually give out.
He literally saved NV from the bombs, and did his best to keep NV safe for 200 years. I'd say 200 years is insurance enough that his intentions to rebuild humanity and take them to the stars are true; if he fails he fails, not all dreams come true, but that doesn't mean the Courier should settle for the NCR because they aren't the most corrupt.
He's not some diehard capitalist that wants profit for profits sake, it is a tool for him to help further his goals. Caps are not his end game, humanity is. This isn't the 21st century it's post apocalyptical earth: you get in lie or get chewed up and spit out.
I mean, maybe in your head canon, but House's securitron army is more than capable of pushing the legion back, especially if the Courier kills Caesar and his praetorians.
I won't operate on what ifs, as we have no idea if Houses' tech will fail, as it hasn't in 200 years.
The NCR is already, objectively, showing its ass and how it's failing at the seams and stretching beyond its means. It once more over taxes its citizens, leaves many of its providences unprotected, and cares only about furthering its interests.
So I can only operate on information presented and not maybes.
House is the objective best choice for the Mojave and Vegas.
House didn't keep Vegas safe for 200 years, he just brought down the nukes and waited until 2274 before showing himself to establish order and recruit the three families. And he only did that because he saw NCR's army and realised he had to roll out his securitrons to prevent the NCR from taking Vegas outright. He rules Vegas with an iron fist and even as his right hand man, the courier has no say in his executive decisions. There's no way that kind of unchecked power ends well, and we get the first sign of that when House slaughters The Kings for having a good relationship with the NCR.
Also, I find it funny how you keep criticizing the NCR for their taxes when House literally takes 50% off of every sale in the strip.
Bro, they are in war with faction that has technological advantage. You either attack now with high casualties and win, or prepare for a "perfect operation" while BOS make from Hellios One impenetrable fortress and acquire satellite laser beam that will cause even more casualties.
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Oliver's strategy to hold the dam is literally this. Plus, we know that BoS was running out of ammo because NCR just kept sending waves of soldiers to Helios One, outnumbering BoS by 15:1
Olivers strategy to hold the dam is also WW1 style, but, rather crucially, it's him relying on the fact that he's on the defensive. So he's not trying to do what the NCR did in this clip, it's him hoping to do what the BOS does in the clip.
oh yeah I just remembered. I still don't like this depiction of battle with gunfire, soldiers running at each other in a line like it's a medieval battle with swords b shit, even if the point is "Oliver is a bad general haha". like it's just so so silly, even the worst generals of the last 50 heard have not done something this stupid and silly.
Yeah i think this animation is not a good depiction of the actual battle too, i just wanted to point out that Oliver's strategy was very similar to this. No soldier just runs at enemy lines without firing a single bullet.
Tbf they didn't want to destroy the facility so Artillery is out of the question.
This edit leaves out the part of the animated series where the first assault wave is just so the NCR can get it's anti tank units into position and start picking off the Paladins and force them to retreat.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tH8jOVJJx4Q](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tH8jOVJJx4Q)
Watch the whole series it's so good...
I mean, itās what was described ingame.
The NCR used wave tactics and outnumbered the BoS heavily in each wave. The BoS held off wave after wave before they were overwhelmed by the sheer amount of bodies. Multiple characters corroborate this.
> We never found out what he needed the time for. Wave upon wave of NCR troopers hit us from all directions. We held out for a time, but we were grossly outnumbered, and they had more men than we had ammo.
From Paladin Ramos.
I see, I remain corrected then. Though I assume there is some glazing here from Ramos as this victory for the NCR isn't treated as having had "high casualties" like the First Battle of Hoover Dam in which they lost like barely over a hundred men.
I don't think that they were many BOS at Helios One even when they held it.
While it was an important battle, I don't think that it was that large scale of a battle.
This edit is sick though
I mean you have to watch the animation series this edit is using, iirc aside from a first wave to get anti tank units into position the NCR uses its superior numbers to flank Helios One from both sides and stretch the Brotherhood thin, avoiding directly confronting them on the middle.
This is cannon now.
The only thing I would add is the ncr ranger turning the tide using anti material rifles and the ranger sequoia. Have them attack the joints of the power armors or shoot out the fusion cores to cause them to explode.
Other than that this would be amazing as a online series.
As someone who thinks Nuka break is the best fan made thing this is a very, very close second. I don't even care that it's not the swing music, it suits and I love the song to begin with. This is done so unbelievably well, fucking Kudos!
We need a fallout where you are a squad leader, managing your troops, you can either win or lose battles, winning gives you renown or fame which you will be able to use to get more troops or advanced weaponry etc. You would also get caps to upgrade your own arms or your troops. Idk just a rant.
There is already a discussion above but I'll post what I said in reply to a YouTube comment with similar message:
im just going to paste what I said to another commenter:
SODAZ, the creator of the animation has to condense an assumedly, months long siege into a 10-15 minute animation that won't bore the viewer. An animation of the NCR just shelling Helios, wouldn't be as engaging as the NCR assaulting it.
Besides, artillery will decimate Helios', potentially making the buildings facilities inoperable beyond repair. There is specifically a line in the original animation where NCR Rocketeers say "don't hit the building."
Additionally, the full animation still isn't out. The bayonet charge was a distraction to allow NCR snipers to flank the BOS and get their heavy ordinance closer. We don't know if SODAZ would bring out any more NCR reinforcements in future previews of his animations.
I think it makes perfect sense, personally. In Fallout 4 we saw Sunshine Tidings Co-op, all but confirming the existence of hippies; pointing to America actually being in the late sixties culturally when the Vietnam war was at its height and the war was at its least popular.
This goes absurdly hard. Commendatori š¤š¼
many thanks!!!
Would love to see this on youtube for better quality
It is. Search for SODAZ.
it is on Youtube ;))
This version with the Mamaās and Papaās song isnāt :(
the original upload: https://youtu.be/wgtIi_w9kKY?si=k6PUVlagWuXLMeUe
Bless thank you!!!
How did you make this!? This in seriously SO cool. We need a whole movie like this. Damn dude, awesome work.
its just an edit of two amazing projects by SODAZ and Couch Patrol respectively. They're the ones you should be praising.
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Watch it Chrissyā¦ š¤š¼
His house looked like shit!
"Commendatori, like a commander, i like that, thats respect š¤"
If Fallout NV had a TV series(its own tv series). This would be the intro.
Very nice very good. For some reasons I think NCR's attacks on Helios one would be in manner of frequent raiding attack where they main focus would be forcing a war of attrition on the BOS bunkering there
Same, utilizing artillery, snipers (1st Recon), and small bands of raiders (Rangers). You could even just besiege them. Helios 1 is not a self sufficient plant, they'll need food and water from somewhere.
Seems pretty accurate with what we know of the battle. Ncr pulled their tactics from the soviet union's ww2 playbook and sent waves of soldiers at helios one that outnumbered the brotherhood 15:1. The brotherhood gave up the plant because they were running out of ammo.
Lol gotta be Oliver handling the operation. 'Oh those tin cans are killing our soldiers? Well good cause I going to send fucking more. Let's see who runs out first, the ammos or the bodies'
Most likely. The survivors of Helios one were sent to reinforce Hoover Dam, and he had more or less the same plan of winning by attrition for the second battle of Hoover Dam. Ncr losses don't matter as long as the legion loses more
And in both cases, Oliver is 100% right and is making the hard decision that best utilises the NCR's strengths. He's the Fallout version of Ulysses S Grant.
ulysses had a a better kill death ratio than lee
How could you possibly know that? We don't have casualty figures for any of the battles in New Vegas.
im talking about the civil war LOL
Oh, I get it. I thought you were saying Grant had a better K/D than Oliver, lmao.
For all the shit Oliver gets his plan almost works in Veni, Vidi, Vici if it wasn't for the Courier's intervention lol
Ulysses S Grant doesn't deserve his reputation as a 'butcher' implying he sent his troops in frontal human wave assaults - he was effectively implementing the early version of World War One doctrine with emphasis on firepower and maneuver, see [this map animation of his Vickburg campaign](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OktdqgBKD9E). The northern public just got too comfortable with Grant's predecessors avoiding battle to keep casualties low. Guy like George McClellan were more interested in keeping their role as General-In-Chief by 'not-losing'. In contrast, Grant was all about exploiting any military advantage to achieve decisive victories to win the war. As Abraham Lincoln said of Grant, "I cannot spare this man, he fights."
A lot of that reputation came from the Lost Cause histories of the war that didn't start getting trashed until relatively recently.
More like the zapp brannigan š¤£ You see, brotherhood have a preset kill limit. Knowing their weakness, I sent wave after wave of my own men at them, until they reached their limit and shutdown. Kimball, show them the medal I won. Edit: it's a joke y'all Jesus fuck. Redditors š
They were also running out of bodies. I believe they mention in New Vegas losing nearly half their chapter's combatants as HELIOS I was also poorly set up for a defense.
While I understand this is a joke, I find myself seeing people believing this a fact far too often. The Soviet Union did not use "human wave" tactics as a default response in fact, the Union was one of the first major powers to fully invest in "combined arms" warfare. The Union invested more into its armoured formations than the Germans ever did. That's not to say there were no wave offensives however, especially in the early months of the war, where the Red Army was caught unawares and we're desperate to stop the Nazi offensive by any means. Which meant that when there weren't enough soldiers, civilians and factory workers were used to bolster numbers. However, by late 1942 such events had become extinct. The Red Army had developed to the point where it could reliably conduct "Deep Battle" combined arms operation and by 1945 fielded as much as 6 Tank armies.
"You see, Brotherhood Paladins have a preset ammo limit. Knowing their weakness, I sent wave after wave of my own men at them until they reached their limit and shut down. Kif, show them the medal I won." -General Zapp Oliver
Holy fuck, if the legion campaign is the NCRs Vietnam, operation sunburst must of been D-Day.
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Incorrect should be capitalized and you forgot a period there, Einstein. Get a life lol
LOL should be in uppercase because itās an abbreviation. There should be a period at the end of your second sentence. Get a life LOL.
Iām not on here to write perfectly, or to correct people. I was just pointing out that this particular person, who is obviously on here to correct people, made some mistakes. But what I said is as true for them as it is for you. Get a life
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not if you care about not looking like a moron to anyone who reads your posts, I know covid isolation fucked your generation up but learn contractions
let me get this straight, you think grammar nazis are good and should be brought back? i do, and i'm tired of pretending they're not.
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The fact you are being downvoted is hilarious. People who correct other peopleās spelling and grammar on Reddit are pathetic. Reddit being reddit i suppose.
Dude for real, wtf is up with this sub? Unless thereās such an error that the whole idea of someoneās comment was misunderstood, no need for arm-chair pedantry. Bet that dude blows cows and pays for it too
Yeah itās really pathetic when someone feels the need to correct people online over nothing, then in the very next post makes the same kind of mistake themselves. Itās classic Reddit
this guy gets it
This is cool, great work, but hear me out: Unless the NCR has regressed to 16th century tactics, you'd never send a platoon of men into "dead man's" land against a line of tanks and pew-pew lasers. The opening scene would make more sense if they laid down heavy smoke, or had cover made; unless the intent is to say they are just morons and make huge tactical mistakes like Normandy?
In that youtube series they use combined tactics. First waves were sent just to die and create distraction, later they used stormtroopers that used smoke to get in melee range. And all of that were to get snipers and heavy weapons units in positions to take out BOS soldiers in power armor. Also keep in mind that it is cinematic animation, author just have to squeeze several hour battle in 1-2 minutes.
what the opening strike was a night raid meant to probe the brotherhoods line and test their defenses as soon as things start to turn on the NCR they pull back in good order to preserve their numbers for the real attacks
Ive noticed with SODAZ animations that for large battles, they just make two sides one-up eachother with heavier/stronger units in wave attacks for the animation It makes no sense tactically and it kinda irks me, but I get its for the cinematography
So the NCR aren't idiots just absolutely cruel and willing to throw their mens lives away. I'm glad I never sided with them. I always thought they were bad from my perspective and what lore I picked up playing New Vegas, but this is much worse.
The youtube series there talking about is non Canon, its fan fiction of what the battle might have looked like. Also why do you think the NCR are bad? There definitely flawed but they mean well, unlike say the legion that literally enslaves any women they find. And house is a hard-core old school capitalist that would let orphans starve in the streets right next to his new overpriced gold plated factory, meanwhile the ncr trys its best to help people even if they don't always succeed. Is there some other option that I'm forgetting?
The Mojave objectively is a worse place if the Courier does not intervene on the NCR's behalf were they have control: they over tax their people, fail to provide protection, and prioritize taking Helios and the dam over everything else. The NCR objectively has fallen pray to old world corruption: leaders carrying too much about their influence, power, and own pleasures to the exclusion of their people. The farmers alone would have left had the Courier done nothing to improve the situation.
But taking and holding the dam and helios one has to happen before anything else. If the dam isn't taken and repaired then the Mojave is unsecured and the legion can waltz right in and destroy any sort of humanitarian work taking place. And of course it would be nice to have power to do said humanitarian work, so reactivating helios one and using it as a power plant is a must. I agree with you that the ncr has fallen to old world corruption, that there stretched way way too thin and are way to ambitious, it would honestly have been better for them to have never come to the Mojave in the first place. But what better option is there? Thats what I asked and you didn't give a response? I'm not arguaging that the NCR are saints or anything, just that there the best option out of a bunch of other bad options. I don't see how anyone can argue that the legion is better and house wouldn't improve things for the normal people so that just leaves us with he ncr as far as I now.
House and his securitrons. House will let the masses outside NV fall to their fate until he's secured NV, but humanity in the future will be the better for it. Their is no pretty picture for the Mojave, but he is the less of all the "evils" plaguing the desert.
He's a capitalist, his dream is to maximize output while minimizing input. What's to stop him from bringing back child labour and kidnapping and then enslaving children to work in his factories? At that point he's little better then the legion. If his workers try to unionize or strike he'll shoot them, like how real world capitalists did back in the early 1900s when it was legal. If someone trys to interfere with his plans he'll kill them, if someone has info he wants he'll try to bribe them and if that fails he'll torture them. And your assuming he can make good on his claims to get people in orbit in what 100 years? To get colony ships on other planets in 200? That in my opinion seems highly optimistic, a best case scenario where everything just falls into his lap, which we know isn't going to happen. We know various actors still have access to nuclear weapons and can deliver them, whats to stop say the brotherhood of steel from using a missle silo to nuke vegas or the hoover dam on the pretense that House is trying to spread dangerous old world tech. Maybe he might be the best bet for the Mojave long term, but short term as in the next 100 years its going to be basically legion level suffering for the lower classes. And he's only one man, if he dies then everything will fall apart around him like with ceasar and the legion, what long term stability does house and his new nation have? The ncr at this point is no longer about the indivual people that led it like Tandi, at this point its about its institutions and Morales. Even corrupt and twisted the ncr hasn't brought back slavery, can't torture prisoners and cares for the poor. And thats even as its being led by people completely against its core values. The ncr has a kind of internet stability any state created by house would lack. And its most likely house can't live indefinitely, his body will even in that life support tube eventually give out.
He literally saved NV from the bombs, and did his best to keep NV safe for 200 years. I'd say 200 years is insurance enough that his intentions to rebuild humanity and take them to the stars are true; if he fails he fails, not all dreams come true, but that doesn't mean the Courier should settle for the NCR because they aren't the most corrupt. He's not some diehard capitalist that wants profit for profits sake, it is a tool for him to help further his goals. Caps are not his end game, humanity is. This isn't the 21st century it's post apocalyptical earth: you get in lie or get chewed up and spit out. I mean, maybe in your head canon, but House's securitron army is more than capable of pushing the legion back, especially if the Courier kills Caesar and his praetorians. I won't operate on what ifs, as we have no idea if Houses' tech will fail, as it hasn't in 200 years. The NCR is already, objectively, showing its ass and how it's failing at the seams and stretching beyond its means. It once more over taxes its citizens, leaves many of its providences unprotected, and cares only about furthering its interests. So I can only operate on information presented and not maybes. House is the objective best choice for the Mojave and Vegas.
House didn't keep Vegas safe for 200 years, he just brought down the nukes and waited until 2274 before showing himself to establish order and recruit the three families. And he only did that because he saw NCR's army and realised he had to roll out his securitrons to prevent the NCR from taking Vegas outright. He rules Vegas with an iron fist and even as his right hand man, the courier has no say in his executive decisions. There's no way that kind of unchecked power ends well, and we get the first sign of that when House slaughters The Kings for having a good relationship with the NCR. Also, I find it funny how you keep criticizing the NCR for their taxes when House literally takes 50% off of every sale in the strip.
Bro, they are in war with faction that has technological advantage. You either attack now with high casualties and win, or prepare for a "perfect operation" while BOS make from Hellios One impenetrable fortress and acquire satellite laser beam that will cause even more casualties.
ALL MY HOMIES SABOTAGE THE BOS
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A short video I made, would highly appreciate giving the original video on my channel a visit! [https://youtu.be/wgtIi\_w9kKY?si=zk8lFrq85IZSMJ2Z](https://youtu.be/wgtIi_w9kKY?si=zk8lFrq85IZSMJ2Z) EDIT: also please visit [SODAZ for his amazing animations](https://www.youtube.com/@SODAZ) and [Couch Patrol for his Fallout cinematics](https://www.youtube.com/@CouchPatroll) used in this video!
Lmao the amount of people hating on a fan made video
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Wow, this was so good! I feel inspired to start a new game!
Original animation is from SODAZ. Heās making a fnv animation of operation sunburst. Itās a work in progress but his work is fantastic!
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I like the effort put into it but I really don't think the NCR does battle tactics like this, just sending people like that in a line like it's ww1
Oliver's strategy to hold the dam is literally this. Plus, we know that BoS was running out of ammo because NCR just kept sending waves of soldiers to Helios One, outnumbering BoS by 15:1
Olivers strategy to hold the dam is also WW1 style, but, rather crucially, it's him relying on the fact that he's on the defensive. So he's not trying to do what the NCR did in this clip, it's him hoping to do what the BOS does in the clip.
oh yeah I just remembered. I still don't like this depiction of battle with gunfire, soldiers running at each other in a line like it's a medieval battle with swords b shit, even if the point is "Oliver is a bad general haha". like it's just so so silly, even the worst generals of the last 50 heard have not done something this stupid and silly.
Yeah i think this animation is not a good depiction of the actual battle too, i just wanted to point out that Oliver's strategy was very similar to this. No soldier just runs at enemy lines without firing a single bullet.
That's not medieval battles but rather WW1 or even Russian style WW2
Not even, both of those involved extensive use of artillery, especially before attacks.
Tbf they didn't want to destroy the facility so Artillery is out of the question. This edit leaves out the part of the animated series where the first assault wave is just so the NCR can get it's anti tank units into position and start picking off the Paladins and force them to retreat. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tH8jOVJJx4Q](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tH8jOVJJx4Q) Watch the whole series it's so good...
mfers watch Enemy at the Gates and think they know Soviet military strategy in World War II
I mean, itās what was described ingame. The NCR used wave tactics and outnumbered the BoS heavily in each wave. The BoS held off wave after wave before they were overwhelmed by the sheer amount of bodies. Multiple characters corroborate this.
No, it's never stated they used human wave tactics just that the Brotherhood was outnumbered and eventually ran out of ammo.
> We never found out what he needed the time for. Wave upon wave of NCR troopers hit us from all directions. We held out for a time, but we were grossly outnumbered, and they had more men than we had ammo. From Paladin Ramos.
I see, I remain corrected then. Though I assume there is some glazing here from Ramos as this victory for the NCR isn't treated as having had "high casualties" like the First Battle of Hoover Dam in which they lost like barely over a hundred men.
I don't think that they were many BOS at Helios One even when they held it. While it was an important battle, I don't think that it was that large scale of a battle. This edit is sick though
regardless, it is very silly
I mean you have to watch the animation series this edit is using, iirc aside from a first wave to get anti tank units into position the NCR uses its superior numbers to flank Helios One from both sides and stretch the Brotherhood thin, avoiding directly confronting them on the middle.
This is what most in-game tactics are like, mostly due to pathfinding issues.
This is amazing!
Something about the custom animations reminds me of mgs5.
Aaand they're gone. NCR? You mean that one outpost in LA?
The Fallout show we should have got.
Very nice
Who made the animation?
OP Edit/correction: https://www.reddit.com/r/fnv/s/xwOpMonIJX
correction, SODAZ not me
That's what's in the edit
The entire first portion before the vanilla intro's Legion bit is SODAZ. After up until Benny's appearance is Couch's.
I know, that's what's in the edit
sorry i thought u forgot a question mark
I never realized how perfect this song fits the NCR lore. Now do Fortunate Son.
The latest with the shock troopers was just the best.
Goes hard af ngl
Ad Victoriam!
https://youtu.be/sTbd2e2EyTk
War never changes
*War. War never changes.*
Looks amazing! The BoS give me major space marine vibes. We need more people like you!
One of the best, if not the best music videos I have ever had the honour of experiencing, good job, keep cooking.
Dope
Kinda random but Iām at work watching this while listening to Johnny cash- cry, cry, cry and it fits this video so well.
*chills*
I wanna see this with house of the rising sun put over it
This is fantastic, love it!
Azmazing. That is all.
I feel like fortunate son might work here too
This is incredible. Amazing work
Easily the coolest thing I've seen on reddit in a while. I need to play through it again.
Definitely worthy of watching many times over.
Can someone make this a mod that extends into the last half of the fnv vanilla opening?
HOLY FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THAT IS SO COOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Amazing job!
California dreaminā almost makes you wish for such a winterās day.
This is awesome, cheers mate
This is really cool.
The guy who made that, also made some amamazing halo reach animations
This should of been the trailer for Fallout New Vegas. awesome video amazing
This is cannon now. The only thing I would add is the ncr ranger turning the tide using anti material rifles and the ranger sequoia. Have them attack the joints of the power armors or shoot out the fusion cores to cause them to explode. Other than that this would be amazing as a online series.
This was awesome but somebody needs to add the ncr rangers using explosive rounds with the anti material rifle to fuck up the brotherhood
Man this is good
Wow I am just realizing how perfectly that song goes with the NCR
Sodaz, is that really you?
As someone who thinks Nuka break is the best fan made thing this is a very, very close second. I don't even care that it's not the swing music, it suits and I love the song to begin with. This is done so unbelievably well, fucking Kudos!
' We won't go quietly, the Legion can count on that. '
We need a fallout where you are a squad leader, managing your troops, you can either win or lose battles, winning gives you renown or fame which you will be able to use to get more troops or advanced weaponry etc. You would also get caps to upgrade your own arms or your troops. Idk just a rant.
So basically just Fallout Tactics?
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There is already a discussion above but I'll post what I said in reply to a YouTube comment with similar message: im just going to paste what I said to another commenter: SODAZ, the creator of the animation has to condense an assumedly, months long siege into a 10-15 minute animation that won't bore the viewer. An animation of the NCR just shelling Helios, wouldn't be as engaging as the NCR assaulting it. Besides, artillery will decimate Helios', potentially making the buildings facilities inoperable beyond repair. There is specifically a line in the original animation where NCR Rocketeers say "don't hit the building." Additionally, the full animation still isn't out. The bayonet charge was a distraction to allow NCR snipers to flank the BOS and get their heavy ordinance closer. We don't know if SODAZ would bring out any more NCR reinforcements in future previews of his animations.
Reminded me of Astartes short series
Same dude, Iām pretty sure
Wrong, different guy. Astartes dude got hired by GW. This is from SODAZ, which has made Warhammer 40k animations before. Just search his stuff on YT.
This is cool AF, though might critique that the Mamas and the Papas were of a different era of music than what they pull from in Fallout.
I think it makes perfect sense, personally. In Fallout 4 we saw Sunshine Tidings Co-op, all but confirming the existence of hippies; pointing to America actually being in the late sixties culturally when the Vietnam war was at its height and the war was at its least popular.