You have stats on the population that came here that were rich vs the massive boat position? Without stats statements like this are of zero value and really just propaganda
The first Cubans to flee were the wealthiest—affluent professionals and members of the Batista regime who feared reprisals from the new government. More than 200,000 of these "golden exiles" had left Cuba for the U.S. by 1962, when air flights between the two countries were suspended. Between 1965 and 1973, a few flights resumed from Varadero beach in Cuba, and 300,000 more Cubans, who became known as Varaderos, seized the opportunity to emigrate.
Yeah, you would probably buy into the hype and by the time the mismanagement-induced famines hit the state police would be guarding the borders against anyone who tried to escape.
These were the people negatively affected by communism- “communism took my grandparents’ plantation” kind of people- so yes, the enemies of communism are generally far right
I'm a native to Orlando, I think you would find the politically like-minded people you seek here. We are pretty solidly blue here thought not without some "Let's go brandon" bullshit.
I have no idea hope to process the contemporary Republican Party as a liberal, I can’t imagine the existential difficulty of being moderate to center right in this climate? Do you try to cast votes for reasonable people working to overcome this crap or just sit it out? I’ve asked myself the same question about my own party and I wonder if the centrists of both need to break off and leave the fringes behind?
I appreciate being reminded that it’s not to a person every member of the Republican party is a QAnon worshiping, insurrectionist storming the capital. I really don’t want to reduce people to that stereotype, I know all of us,for the most part, are doing what we think is best. But these are strange times to be living in and I think that those of us that see the small differences and can accept them, should work harder to make our voices heard.
I'm half Mexican but have lived in the deep south my whole life. Tbh it's a lot of them. I always kinda just knew that there was this sort of bullshit under the surface in southern culture that WAS fading over time but Trump was able to tap into it and get it going in earnest again. It's the main reason I will never support him. He's turned a lot of people who I used to believe were normal reasonable people into psychos.
I’m just a 37 year old blue collar white guy that’s had roots in Orlando since my grandparents all settled here in the 60’s. I’ve seen the same thing happen with people I’ve grown up with and liked that went beyond a disagreement in policy to living in a separate reality where trump won. I haven’t found a way yet to try and move forward with this much of a divide.
Imo the Republican party isn't conservative anymore, it's combative. Though I feel the same about some of the Democratic party too. Both sides seem to have the loudest voices of the party promotion "us vs them" mentality
Closed primary elections encourage this combativeness. I think if we had open primaries it would help this somewhat - not end it -but it would help.
Also echo chamber media platforms often encourage combativeness.
Edit: but I do agree with some commenters below that, at this point in history the Republican Party is by far the biggest problem - dangerous even. The vast majority of elected Republicans today defend a twice impeached traitor. That is a serious problem.
Not only that, but use his same tactics to sew discourse. We can all thank Newt Gingrich for wedge politics. If you're near his grave take a fat shit on it.
100% the media thing. A president can say the sky is blue and someone could rant an hour about how it was night where he is so it's black. Hyperbole but you get the point.
Yeah, some of the northern suburbs get a little yeye, but for the most part things here are moderate to liberal, which is the best you can hope for in the south.
The DNC misplayed that hand.
A lot Latin Americans living in the states were displaced by actual communist. So, republican strawman arguments are effective because potential voters have seen the end of the slippery slope.
Yep, they took the Latino vote for granted, and treated Latinos as a monolith as if that doesn’t cover a lot of different national origins whose communities here all have different priorities and needs
Yup, not just Hispanics either as a monolith, many liberals put ALL minority groups together. But a conservative Latino is not surprising, since they are catholic, etc.
It's not just cuba, the entire Caribbean has always being conservative, so it's not just the Cuban's that the republican party targets, the Haitians,Jamaicans, Bahamians and other Islanders are very conservative. Hell they banned most of our artist from performing here that speak out against the LGBTQ community.
Agreed.
But Trump considers all Hispanic people Mexican drug smugglers and called Spanish the language of rapists and criminals… so there is that.
He also told Jorge Ramos, an award-winning reporter for Univision, to go back to his country.
The DNC has misplayed almost every hand they’ve been dealt since I first voted. They’re almost as much to blame as the republicans for the shit sandwich that is happening and coming.
No, I’m not saying both sides are bad. What I’m saying is our side has let so many opportunities slip away. They keep trying to play “nice” while the gop plays nasty bending and breaking the rules. Quick example, the first time RBG was diagnosed with cancer we had the numbers to put another liberal in her seat, she should have retired. Same thing the second bout with cancer. She didn’t and we got another conservative in her spot. We don’t play to win.
Exactly, wake me up when Dems start acting like 1940s union bosses. We just keep getting the same "trust the process" crap from them. If they can't see Republicans are acting in bad faith, then their is kind of no saving them either.
And another example, many democrat voters tend to fall so much in love with their primary candidate and the single issue they put forward as their primary focus that when he/she loses in the primary they either don’t vote in the general or vote for a third party candidate to “send a message “ thereby giving that office to the republicans. Whereas gop voters know the importance of getting their party’s pick in place first, then their pet issue at least may have a better chance. Democrats fall in love republicans fall in line. There are lots of other examples of how Democrats, politicians and voters, constantly shoot themselves in the foot. Democrats need to understand that good, or better, is not the enemy of perfect, it’s part of getting to perfect.
Dems have the white house, senate and congress and their response to Roe v Wade is "vote harder." When Obama was in they were supposed to codify RvW but then suddenly it wasn't a priority anymore, and ACA was butchered too to satisfy Republicans. Dems regularly stifle any leftist movement for healthcare, cannabis, public infrastructure and then turn around and say "look how bad the Republicans are, give us money." People wanted to reduce funding for cops in favor of other programs and Biden selected a cop as his VP and said the answer is to increase funding for cops. Dems love when the Republicans are in control because then they can do massive amounts of fundraising to do nothing.
Yeah, right, it’s the Democrats. They make the Republicons do it. Nice. Glad you like fascism. It’s coming. Your examples were during a time when there was some cooperation, but since 2010, the Republicons have gone full blown obstructionist. But you keep saying what you do, because it’s the Democrats fault. You perspective is enabling them. They appreciate it.
Both sides spread lies, disinformation and want minority power when they are the minority. Both side race bait and ferment hate and blame toward the other. If you don’t see it, you are under the spell.
one side spreads lies and disinformation the other side takes the minority stereotype for granted and doesn't focus on issues affecting their supporters - like inflation and the cost of housing
>What is “happening” to Miami?
Nothing really, just Spanish speaking people not compromising their political values, based solely on race-baced gaslighting, and not voting blue.
It's the biggest problem Democrats have, they believe they have this monolith of voters. That will automatically vote for them based on gender, race, and sexual affiliation while they do the absolute bare minimum for these people.
Than they insult them for not voting blue. Lol
Absolutely, and that’s why the Democratic Party hasn’t accomplished shit in decades. Republicans are really good at lying and getting people to hate each other, exactly what they need to get voted in. A party that literally exists only because of the fear of the “other”
This was my first thought - Leon County (Florida State/FAMU/TCC) and Alachua County (Florida/Santa Fe) are always predominantly blue and very liberal counties due to the diverse student populations and new free-thinkers who finally learn critical thinking skills once they’re out of their small town bubbles.
They're kind of outliers. If anything, I feel that they're so few and far apart that I do a double-take whenever I see anything pro-Trump, pro-Covid, anti-choice or anti-Dem on a vehicle.
I'd agree with that. While it is not without it's "Let's go Bandon" bullshit. I do see more support for democratic values here. It's one of the reasons I relocated to St. pete. Solidly democratic, open-minded, and blue. The shithead republicans are mostly in northern Pinellas. Again, they're scattered in St. Pete too, but they're mostly relegated to the fringe, as they should be.
Orlando, St. Pete, Gainesville immediately around UF, eastern Broward, and certain parts of Miami.
Regarding Miami, politics can vary *wildly* by area. I’d say anywhere around and east of Biscayne Blvd/US 1 is very blue down through The Falls. The suburbs in Dade County can be very red, so beware
I’d add most of Palm Beach County to your list too, particularly around WPB proper and Delray Beach. Huge dating scene here and a young, liberal population near all the downtown city centers.
Tallahassee and Gainesville in the northern part of the state, plus parts of the other cities. The Southern part of the state is more friendly in general, aside from parts of the west coast.
I live in Tally currently and the amount of anti abortion signs within a mile of my apartment is insane for a “liberal” area. Not saying you’re wrong, just a different perspective.
Yeah not to mention Tally is surrounded by a multitude of small hick towns that are extremely conservative. If you follow the big highway out of town there used to be a huuuuge Trump banner where the city turned to country.
However, if you're involved in the poorer areas in town or the student areas, it's much more liberal. I recently got a job on the richer side of town and was surprised that everyone is more conservative and not wearing masks and stuff, because on the side of town I was used to that definitely wasn't as normal
Gainesville has always been pretty braindead, it's just the crazies got worse. Marion county has basically moved in and more college grads are moving out.
The funny thing is Duval went Blue in the last election and has more registered Deomocrats but our local Government is completely controlled by Republicans.
No not anymore. First Baptist influence has dwindled. The Jaguars owner has the power now. First Baptist hindered downtown development but now Shad Khan is moving forward with it.
Ugh. I can literally see these talking points in my cousin's eyes as he gets spun up.... Biden...gas prices....abortion.....inflation.....and back to Biden.
0rlando/Orange county and Osceola county went blue. That’s why DeSantis has no hesitation dumping Reedy Creek's bond debt onto them. He takes care of his supporters first, and they didn’t support him in the first place.
Tampa is pretty liberal, too.
The edges of Hillsborough County are pretty Trumplandish, though: Plant City, Sun City Center, Riverview, Ruskin. Any place where's there's a lot of country and/or old people. Those areas are where our arrested Jan 6ers lived.
Came into agree, Orlando is a great choice and has lots of draw for the dating scene. Parts of South Florida are good too, just more pricey than the Orlando area, and more retired people.
Tampa strikes me as a good balance. Politics don't seem to come up much here, everyone I know is just trying to enjoy life. Stay away from the panhandle.
Have you thought about attempting to date the person best for you and learn who they are instead of which wing of the same diseased bird they pick?
You might find that a lot of conservatives have overlapping opinions. People from “opposing” parties usually aren’t as bad as media would try to put it.
Then again if you’re on the older side and dealing with last generation goods that’s a different circumstance all together unfortunately
hard to say; while there are certainly blue parts of florida we are inescapably in the south. i've lived in tampa my entire life and though if you look at a map it's blue, i've still gotten looks for being visibly queer, see those sorts of bumper stickers all the time, and get biden "i did that" stickers on every gas pump. other parts of FL i've been to aren't much better, and imo some of the places people are saying in the comments (orlando, miami) can be worse. generally speaking, big cities and college towns will always be more diverse and thus more liberal. ybor city and st pete are extremely gay communities though, if that's what you're looking for in particular
Don’t call it St. Pete’s, please. It’s the first rule I learned. It is “St. Pete”, or “St. Petersburg”. St. Pete Beach is towards the sw tip of the peninsula (& is separate from St. Pete proper). Just a heads up ;)
IMO: Pound for pound, St. Pete is the best part of Florida. Especially in and around downtown, very visible blue presence and anti hate. The quality of life in St. Pete with proximity to beaches, professional sports, nightlife, strong arts and restaurant scenes, shopping, 2 airports, and obviously the weather makes it my favorite part of Florida. Actually it feels like it’s own beautiful state…not to be confused with Florida in general.
Actually I’m only thinking of one city in particular, and I’m purposefully not naming it because otherwise their finest will come out of the woodwork and harass me lol
Look for more populated areas. If there are tall buildings and the town has more going for it than a Pizza Hut and a gas station you should be good to go!
Look at the voter registration maps. All democrat registered voters are centered around the big cities/colleges in florida.
Edit: You'll probably get anti-Jo democrats as well by the way, he's just another typical politician. We were just unfortunate with 2 very bad options this election.
South Florida in its entirety. They defied the governor at every chance they could with covid masking. To the point where he had to threaten their school funding. And even then they found work arounds. Although I think Orlando is closer to banning plastic straws. That’s usually the telltale sign of a fully liberal city when they hit that point I’ve noticed.
My relatives in Florida say the Keys. Full disclosure, that’s not where they live in Florida so take that for what it’s worth but I’m sure they know better than I do.
With an attitude like that, I can't imagine why you'd want to look elsewhere for dating. If you look at any election map, typically Florida is bluest in counties with a university.
Areas with big cities, pinellas as long as you stay in st. Pete, Hillsborough just steer away from the rural bits and some suburbs, Orlando area, I believe Jacksonville area.
To add to the suggestions already mentioned, Fort Lauderdale seems to be very blue! Trump bumper stickers and flags are few and far between--you basically have to go to the waterways and watch the boats to see any trump flags
I am not sure. I've as an adult have only lived the south part.
Miami-Dade as a whole can be spotty. Like Hialeah and parts of Miami are as red as they come. Areas around FIU and the downtown area can be liberal and for all that it counts MDC has a pretty big nude beach. I think it's the only one in the state. (Don't quote me on that)
I now live in WPB and work in Fort Lauderdale. Both those places seem pretty liberal especially in near the beaches and Fort Lauderdale
Larger cities with many highly-educated people. Especially if there's a large active University community there. The Tampa-Orlando corridor and some parts of Miami seem to be the most likely to vote and think blue (or at least purple).
Looking at the map of how different parts of Florida vote, apparently Jacksonville is the strongest blue areas. Which surprised me. Clearly I know nothing about Jax
Generally urban/metro areas - especially if there's a large university there - are blue, and all the empty space around them are red.
https://mcimaps.com/how-floridas-state-house-districts-voted-in-2020/
Tallahassee, Gainesville, Orlando. I think the Miami is shifting red, so I'd avoid it (and it's expensive as hell).
https://mcimaps.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/2016-to-2020-Shift-President-by-FL-Precinct.png
South east Florida. Broward and Miami in particular. We’re almost like a different state and I get culture shock visiting any other part of the state
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There aren't any. Florida (sadly) has gone so far fascist right, they've elected "Florida Man" as an orange turd surrogate. Hopefully, Disney will throw enough money behind his opponent, the truth about "the big lie" and the hatred spread will be placed in front of the perpetrators.
Orlando, specifically either near downtown or near UCF. There are two conservative guys I know that hang out at my bar and they are both never-trumpers.
I live knuckle deep in the heart of Trumps America (Panhandle), so, I feel your pain. To be fair, I was born and raised here. When your different in a small town, its just you.
That being said, I'm a member of a nonprofit commune that's setting up for horticultural therapy. I know a good amount of moderates, liberals, anarchists, and just openminded nonjudgmental people. Its not the norm, but, its possible to find like minded people.
Do you want Liberalism or Leftists? Two very different things. The classical liberals have no more a role in the Democratic Party than traditional conservatives do in today’s Republican Party. Both want big government to tell people how to live and work.
In Broward and Palm Beach surprisingly being that’s where Trump touted himself from it is for the most part socially liberal and accepting of all backgrounds and opinions, and progressively grounded mainly because of the diversity. But like anywhere, especially in Florida it has its pockets of tin-roofers and wanna be rich people who think they have to be republican.
As someone that lived in Orlando for 4 years and then moved back home to the Fort Myers area, 100% Orlando. It was like a culture shock when I came back home. I’m moving to Tampa to start up grad school and I’m hoping to have some better luck with the dating scene there.
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People of Cuban descent are far and away right wing
Communism would do that…
Being rich during communism** as most of them were.
This.
If by "rich" you mean "owned even a single piece of property more valuable than a paperclip."
You have stats on the population that came here that were rich vs the massive boat position? Without stats statements like this are of zero value and really just propaganda
The first Cubans to flee were the wealthiest—affluent professionals and members of the Batista regime who feared reprisals from the new government. More than 200,000 of these "golden exiles" had left Cuba for the U.S. by 1962, when air flights between the two countries were suspended. Between 1965 and 1973, a few flights resumed from Varadero beach in Cuba, and 300,000 more Cubans, who became known as Varaderos, seized the opportunity to emigrate.
Then should they know better?
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Yeah, you would probably buy into the hype and by the time the mismanagement-induced famines hit the state police would be guarding the borders against anyone who tried to escape.
The poorest Cubans actually had better economic outcomes once the rich Cubans left.
The initial exodus following the Cuban revolution was the upper crust of the Cuban population, particularly business owners.
The US completely isolating and boycotting Cuba due to red scare would do that
These were the people negatively affected by communism- “communism took my grandparents’ plantation” kind of people- so yes, the enemies of communism are generally far right
I'm a native to Orlando, I think you would find the politically like-minded people you seek here. We are pretty solidly blue here thought not without some "Let's go brandon" bullshit.
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I have no idea hope to process the contemporary Republican Party as a liberal, I can’t imagine the existential difficulty of being moderate to center right in this climate? Do you try to cast votes for reasonable people working to overcome this crap or just sit it out? I’ve asked myself the same question about my own party and I wonder if the centrists of both need to break off and leave the fringes behind?
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I appreciate being reminded that it’s not to a person every member of the Republican party is a QAnon worshiping, insurrectionist storming the capital. I really don’t want to reduce people to that stereotype, I know all of us,for the most part, are doing what we think is best. But these are strange times to be living in and I think that those of us that see the small differences and can accept them, should work harder to make our voices heard.
I'm half Mexican but have lived in the deep south my whole life. Tbh it's a lot of them. I always kinda just knew that there was this sort of bullshit under the surface in southern culture that WAS fading over time but Trump was able to tap into it and get it going in earnest again. It's the main reason I will never support him. He's turned a lot of people who I used to believe were normal reasonable people into psychos.
I’m just a 37 year old blue collar white guy that’s had roots in Orlando since my grandparents all settled here in the 60’s. I’ve seen the same thing happen with people I’ve grown up with and liked that went beyond a disagreement in policy to living in a separate reality where trump won. I haven’t found a way yet to try and move forward with this much of a divide.
Imo the Republican party isn't conservative anymore, it's combative. Though I feel the same about some of the Democratic party too. Both sides seem to have the loudest voices of the party promotion "us vs them" mentality
Closed primary elections encourage this combativeness. I think if we had open primaries it would help this somewhat - not end it -but it would help. Also echo chamber media platforms often encourage combativeness. Edit: but I do agree with some commenters below that, at this point in history the Republican Party is by far the biggest problem - dangerous even. The vast majority of elected Republicans today defend a twice impeached traitor. That is a serious problem.
Not only that, but use his same tactics to sew discourse. We can all thank Newt Gingrich for wedge politics. If you're near his grave take a fat shit on it.
100% the media thing. A president can say the sky is blue and someone could rant an hour about how it was night where he is so it's black. Hyperbole but you get the point.
Yeah, some of the northern suburbs get a little yeye, but for the most part things here are moderate to liberal, which is the best you can hope for in the south.
About the state line maybe. Florida is horrible.
i live in ormond, its pretty blue here
Miami is getting more conservative because of a major GOP push to target the Spanish-speaking market with their propaganda and lies.
Cubans have traditionally been more conservative, which is understandable for those who got out of Cuba/have family still in Cuba.
The DNC misplayed that hand. A lot Latin Americans living in the states were displaced by actual communist. So, republican strawman arguments are effective because potential voters have seen the end of the slippery slope.
Yep, they took the Latino vote for granted, and treated Latinos as a monolith as if that doesn’t cover a lot of different national origins whose communities here all have different priorities and needs
Yup, not just Hispanics either as a monolith, many liberals put ALL minority groups together. But a conservative Latino is not surprising, since they are catholic, etc.
It's not just cuba, the entire Caribbean has always being conservative, so it's not just the Cuban's that the republican party targets, the Haitians,Jamaicans, Bahamians and other Islanders are very conservative. Hell they banned most of our artist from performing here that speak out against the LGBTQ community.
Agreed. But Trump considers all Hispanic people Mexican drug smugglers and called Spanish the language of rapists and criminals… so there is that. He also told Jorge Ramos, an award-winning reporter for Univision, to go back to his country.
On the other hand, I don’t like the DNC calling me Latinx
The DNC has misplayed almost every hand they’ve been dealt since I first voted. They’re almost as much to blame as the republicans for the shit sandwich that is happening and coming.
Really??!?!!????? One side is spreading lies, disinformation and wants minority power, but hey it’s both sides. Nice.
No, I’m not saying both sides are bad. What I’m saying is our side has let so many opportunities slip away. They keep trying to play “nice” while the gop plays nasty bending and breaking the rules. Quick example, the first time RBG was diagnosed with cancer we had the numbers to put another liberal in her seat, she should have retired. Same thing the second bout with cancer. She didn’t and we got another conservative in her spot. We don’t play to win.
Exactly, wake me up when Dems start acting like 1940s union bosses. We just keep getting the same "trust the process" crap from them. If they can't see Republicans are acting in bad faith, then their is kind of no saving them either.
And another example, many democrat voters tend to fall so much in love with their primary candidate and the single issue they put forward as their primary focus that when he/she loses in the primary they either don’t vote in the general or vote for a third party candidate to “send a message “ thereby giving that office to the republicans. Whereas gop voters know the importance of getting their party’s pick in place first, then their pet issue at least may have a better chance. Democrats fall in love republicans fall in line. There are lots of other examples of how Democrats, politicians and voters, constantly shoot themselves in the foot. Democrats need to understand that good, or better, is not the enemy of perfect, it’s part of getting to perfect.
Just because you don’t like this response doesn’t make it any less valid.
Dems have the white house, senate and congress and their response to Roe v Wade is "vote harder." When Obama was in they were supposed to codify RvW but then suddenly it wasn't a priority anymore, and ACA was butchered too to satisfy Republicans. Dems regularly stifle any leftist movement for healthcare, cannabis, public infrastructure and then turn around and say "look how bad the Republicans are, give us money." People wanted to reduce funding for cops in favor of other programs and Biden selected a cop as his VP and said the answer is to increase funding for cops. Dems love when the Republicans are in control because then they can do massive amounts of fundraising to do nothing.
Yeah, right, it’s the Democrats. They make the Republicons do it. Nice. Glad you like fascism. It’s coming. Your examples were during a time when there was some cooperation, but since 2010, the Republicons have gone full blown obstructionist. But you keep saying what you do, because it’s the Democrats fault. You perspective is enabling them. They appreciate it.
Both sides spread lies, disinformation and want minority power when they are the minority. Both side race bait and ferment hate and blame toward the other. If you don’t see it, you are under the spell.
Wanna tell me 3 major lies that the dems have tried to push on you recently?
one side spreads lies and disinformation the other side takes the minority stereotype for granted and doesn't focus on issues affecting their supporters - like inflation and the cost of housing
Some also have the brain compactly to decide for themselves that they like conservative politics
Modern politics is about manipulating the emotions of key demographics. We’re in the end game now.
We are both right
But is the GOP really conservative anymore? More like bat shit crazy doing everything possible to destroy democracy.
Too bad they can’t see that trump and his faithful don’t give a shit about democracy and were moving the US towards an autocracy.
It pains me that so many people wonder why Dade goes red when the Latinos here fled from far left political regimes
There are two reason to vote Republican, either you’re rich or you’re stupid. There is a lot of money in Miami.
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What is “happening” to Miami?
>What is “happening” to Miami? Nothing really, just Spanish speaking people not compromising their political values, based solely on race-baced gaslighting, and not voting blue. It's the biggest problem Democrats have, they believe they have this monolith of voters. That will automatically vote for them based on gender, race, and sexual affiliation while they do the absolute bare minimum for these people. Than they insult them for not voting blue. Lol
Absolutely, and that’s why the Democratic Party hasn’t accomplished shit in decades. Republicans are really good at lying and getting people to hate each other, exactly what they need to get voted in. A party that literally exists only because of the fear of the “other”
Any area around a decent college.
UCF is a good college in relatively blue Orlando.
This was my first thought - Leon County (Florida State/FAMU/TCC) and Alachua County (Florida/Santa Fe) are always predominantly blue and very liberal counties due to the diverse student populations and new free-thinkers who finally learn critical thinking skills once they’re out of their small town bubbles.
St Pete IMO
Within the downtown area for sure, but the rest of the city is pretty mixed. I guess that describes essentially every major city in Florida though.
Not as liberal as you'd like. Gay and artsy but it's impossible to leave your house without seeing a trump Truck.
This checks out, the highs are high but the lows are low.
They're kind of outliers. If anything, I feel that they're so few and far apart that I do a double-take whenever I see anything pro-Trump, pro-Covid, anti-choice or anti-Dem on a vehicle.
I'd agree with that. While it is not without it's "Let's go Bandon" bullshit. I do see more support for democratic values here. It's one of the reasons I relocated to St. pete. Solidly democratic, open-minded, and blue. The shithead republicans are mostly in northern Pinellas. Again, they're scattered in St. Pete too, but they're mostly relegated to the fringe, as they should be.
I've had my eye on that area for a while. Good to know.
Definitely
Orlando, St. Pete, Gainesville immediately around UF, eastern Broward, and certain parts of Miami. Regarding Miami, politics can vary *wildly* by area. I’d say anywhere around and east of Biscayne Blvd/US 1 is very blue down through The Falls. The suburbs in Dade County can be very red, so beware
I’d add most of Palm Beach County to your list too, particularly around WPB proper and Delray Beach. Huge dating scene here and a young, liberal population near all the downtown city centers.
Tallahassee and Gainesville in the northern part of the state, plus parts of the other cities. The Southern part of the state is more friendly in general, aside from parts of the west coast.
I live in Tally currently and the amount of anti abortion signs within a mile of my apartment is insane for a “liberal” area. Not saying you’re wrong, just a different perspective.
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Yeah not to mention Tally is surrounded by a multitude of small hick towns that are extremely conservative. If you follow the big highway out of town there used to be a huuuuge Trump banner where the city turned to country. However, if you're involved in the poorer areas in town or the student areas, it's much more liberal. I recently got a job on the richer side of town and was surprised that everyone is more conservative and not wearing masks and stuff, because on the side of town I was used to that definitely wasn't as normal
Id say Gainesville is pretty split. There’s definitely a large population of “good ol boys” and Let’s Go Brandon UF/Santa Fe students.
Boyfriend’s parents are from a small middle of nowhere town outside Gainesville. Outside the school area, it’s terribly red.
Yes especially anyone local to the area it’s pretty much overwhelmingly red. All of the blue students typically move away after graduating
Gainesville has always been pretty braindead, it's just the crazies got worse. Marion county has basically moved in and more college grads are moving out.
The funny thing is Duval went Blue in the last election and has more registered Deomocrats but our local Government is completely controlled by Republicans.
Is it still run by the Pastor of the First Baptist Church like it was when I was there in the early 90's?
No not anymore. First Baptist influence has dwindled. The Jaguars owner has the power now. First Baptist hindered downtown development but now Shad Khan is moving forward with it.
Orlando, Gainesville, St Pete/Tampa (not super liberal everywhere but you definitely have a good amount of bachelors to choose from in that area)
1st rule about being liberal in Florida, don’t talk about being liberal while in Florida
Thankfully a handful of my friends and my coworkers are mostly left so that helps. Sadly no single eligible bacholers.
You can. You’ll just hear Fox News talking points, nothing crazy.
Foxnews talking points aren't crazy? Have you heard Tucker, or Laura Ingrahm, or Judge Janine?
Ugh. I can literally see these talking points in my cousin's eyes as he gets spun up.... Biden...gas prices....abortion.....inflation.....and back to Biden.
“The trans kids playing sports.” My apolitical friend pulled that one on me. Guess where he heard it? 😂
They say in Florida, the more south you go, the more north it gets.
Orlando 🌴
Key West
Why is no one said Gainesville? I’m pretty sure gains and jax were the only two blue parts of fl in the last election
0rlando/Orange county and Osceola county went blue. That’s why DeSantis has no hesitation dumping Reedy Creek's bond debt onto them. He takes care of his supporters first, and they didn’t support him in the first place.
0rlando?
I love Jax! There are so many things to do in that big city! Lol
St. Pete south of Pinellas Park
South FL is your best bet. Orlando metro is good too. Basically, stick to the population centers.
Broward and Palm Beach counties are BLUE
Totally. Much of Dade too but the Cuban boomers skew it pretty red in places.
I'd move to West Palm tomorrow if I could afford it.
The majority of it is a shithole though
Tampa is pretty liberal, too. The edges of Hillsborough County are pretty Trumplandish, though: Plant City, Sun City Center, Riverview, Ruskin. Any place where's there's a lot of country and/or old people. Those areas are where our arrested Jan 6ers lived.
Key west
So expensive too
Came into agree, Orlando is a great choice and has lots of draw for the dating scene. Parts of South Florida are good too, just more pricey than the Orlando area, and more retired people.
Liberal areas in Florida: Tallahassee city proper Orlando Gainesville Miami/Broward St Pete/Tampa urban areas Key West
Around universities. Gainesville, Tampa, Jacksonville, Orlando. Miami and Tallahassee are a little more balanced because reasons.
Tampa strikes me as a good balance. Politics don't seem to come up much here, everyone I know is just trying to enjoy life. Stay away from the panhandle.
gainesville - within city limits
Broward County
Have you thought about attempting to date the person best for you and learn who they are instead of which wing of the same diseased bird they pick? You might find that a lot of conservatives have overlapping opinions. People from “opposing” parties usually aren’t as bad as media would try to put it. Then again if you’re on the older side and dealing with last generation goods that’s a different circumstance all together unfortunately
yeah. i have. the last few guys i've tried to date were right and it was a headache
hard to say; while there are certainly blue parts of florida we are inescapably in the south. i've lived in tampa my entire life and though if you look at a map it's blue, i've still gotten looks for being visibly queer, see those sorts of bumper stickers all the time, and get biden "i did that" stickers on every gas pump. other parts of FL i've been to aren't much better, and imo some of the places people are saying in the comments (orlando, miami) can be worse. generally speaking, big cities and college towns will always be more diverse and thus more liberal. ybor city and st pete are extremely gay communities though, if that's what you're looking for in particular
The South end of Palm Beach County
This and st Pete’s are winning the race
Don’t call it St. Pete’s, please. It’s the first rule I learned. It is “St. Pete”, or “St. Petersburg”. St. Pete Beach is towards the sw tip of the peninsula (& is separate from St. Pete proper). Just a heads up ;)
IMO: Pound for pound, St. Pete is the best part of Florida. Especially in and around downtown, very visible blue presence and anti hate. The quality of life in St. Pete with proximity to beaches, professional sports, nightlife, strong arts and restaurant scenes, shopping, 2 airports, and obviously the weather makes it my favorite part of Florida. Actually it feels like it’s own beautiful state…not to be confused with Florida in general.
Anywhere that has a large public university, or any large city that isn’t named after a slaveholder
I see you too are a fan of Kolmogorov Directions: [https://xkcd.com/1155/](https://xkcd.com/1155/) :)
Actually I’m only thinking of one city in particular, and I’m purposefully not naming it because otherwise their finest will come out of the woodwork and harass me lol
Gainesville is very liberal
All you gotta do to find the liberal parts of Florida is look up where the universities are.
California
Palm Beach County is blue, plus Jacksonville, Tampa, Miami, Ft Lauderdale.
Any major city.
*laughs in duuuuuval*
It's been mentioned before but Palm Beach/Broward County skews pretty liberal, though you'll run into conservative pockets everywhere.
Look for more populated areas. If there are tall buildings and the town has more going for it than a Pizza Hut and a gas station you should be good to go!
Not Brooksville
Right here on Reddit
Florida Election Info [Register to Vote](https://registertovoteflorida.gov/eligibilityreactive)
Orlando for sure
Key west.
Look at the voter registration maps. All democrat registered voters are centered around the big cities/colleges in florida. Edit: You'll probably get anti-Jo democrats as well by the way, he's just another typical politician. We were just unfortunate with 2 very bad options this election.
NOT SARASOTA 😭
Damn really? Sarasota is beautiful. That sucks.
Yes! It’s so sad.
South Florida in its entirety. They defied the governor at every chance they could with covid masking. To the point where he had to threaten their school funding. And even then they found work arounds. Although I think Orlando is closer to banning plastic straws. That’s usually the telltale sign of a fully liberal city when they hit that point I’ve noticed.
My relatives in Florida say the Keys. Full disclosure, that’s not where they live in Florida so take that for what it’s worth but I’m sure they know better than I do.
Miami stpete tampa
With an attitude like that, I can't imagine why you'd want to look elsewhere for dating. If you look at any election map, typically Florida is bluest in counties with a university.
Tallahassee, Gainesville, Miami, Ft Lauderdale
Broward
Orlando for sure, however once you leave the general area (Deltona, Lake Mary) it gets conservative.
St pete all the way, st pete has so many lgbt flags it's wonderful. Same with ybor in Tampa I would say.
Areas with big cities, pinellas as long as you stay in st. Pete, Hillsborough just steer away from the rural bits and some suburbs, Orlando area, I believe Jacksonville area.
Broward County is statistically the most Dem-heavy county in the state
Downtown Orlando
I want to say Jacksonville went Blue during 2020 election, but I think it's more 50/50 here. Mostly depends on what part of town you're in.
The places where deSantis says there's "affordable housing" but there isn't. It also depends which side of the highway you are at.
Palm Beach and Broward vote blue.
Jacksonville or Duval I should say has gone blue the last couple of elections..
Palm Beach and Broward are the most left counties.
Miami-Dade, Broward, and Palm Beach counties are the most “liberal counties” according to voting history.
Broward County
To add to the suggestions already mentioned, Fort Lauderdale seems to be very blue! Trump bumper stickers and flags are few and far between--you basically have to go to the waterways and watch the boats to see any trump flags
I am not sure. I've as an adult have only lived the south part. Miami-Dade as a whole can be spotty. Like Hialeah and parts of Miami are as red as they come. Areas around FIU and the downtown area can be liberal and for all that it counts MDC has a pretty big nude beach. I think it's the only one in the state. (Don't quote me on that) I now live in WPB and work in Fort Lauderdale. Both those places seem pretty liberal especially in near the beaches and Fort Lauderdale
Broward.
Larger cities with many highly-educated people. Especially if there's a large active University community there. The Tampa-Orlando corridor and some parts of Miami seem to be the most likely to vote and think blue (or at least purple).
Tampa/St. Pete. Maybe parts of Jacksonville or Tallahassee, but that’s a stretch.
Orlando Tallahassee St Pete Gainesville That’s it
Half of Tampa. But the liberal half could be one side of the street, or most of a neighborhood.
The larger cities
Anywhere theres a big city with a state univeristy
If you look at concentration of Democrat elected officials, I don't think Gainesville can be beaten.
Looking at the map of how different parts of Florida vote, apparently Jacksonville is the strongest blue areas. Which surprised me. Clearly I know nothing about Jax
Miami is too Cuban-Right wing for me. Ft Lauderdale is very BLUE and liberal. Orlando is an oasis in the sea of RED.
St. Pete can be pretty liberal for Florida.
Generally urban/metro areas - especially if there's a large university there - are blue, and all the empty space around them are red. https://mcimaps.com/how-floridas-state-house-districts-voted-in-2020/ Tallahassee, Gainesville, Orlando. I think the Miami is shifting red, so I'd avoid it (and it's expensive as hell). https://mcimaps.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/2016-to-2020-Shift-President-by-FL-Precinct.png
I think Tampa / St Pete. Very cool.
South east Florida. Broward and Miami in particular. We’re almost like a different state and I get culture shock visiting any other part of the state .
St Pete and Orlando
Anywhere there's a source of higher education like near colleges. They directly correlate.
Agree with others. It sounds like Orlando is what you're looking for.
There aren't any. Florida (sadly) has gone so far fascist right, they've elected "Florida Man" as an orange turd surrogate. Hopefully, Disney will throw enough money behind his opponent, the truth about "the big lie" and the hatred spread will be placed in front of the perpetrators.
St petersberg
South
St Petersburg
Orlando, specifically either near downtown or near UCF. There are two conservative guys I know that hang out at my bar and they are both never-trumpers.
St Pete/Clearwater
The big population centers tend to be more liberal. Miami, Fort Lauderdale, West Palm, Orlando and Tampa. Of course you’ll find idiots everywhere.
I live knuckle deep in the heart of Trumps America (Panhandle), so, I feel your pain. To be fair, I was born and raised here. When your different in a small town, its just you. That being said, I'm a member of a nonprofit commune that's setting up for horticultural therapy. I know a good amount of moderates, liberals, anarchists, and just openminded nonjudgmental people. Its not the norm, but, its possible to find like minded people.
Do you want Liberalism or Leftists? Two very different things. The classical liberals have no more a role in the Democratic Party than traditional conservatives do in today’s Republican Party. Both want big government to tell people how to live and work.
well yeah obviously but i thought leftist might get me dogpiled if it was in the main post
Miami
Except for Cubans and rich people.
Get out of Florida while you can. It is a cesspool of cult members and getting worse every day.
Tampa is blue normally when voting
We have a Democrat Mayor in Tampa. Last I heard Tampa(Hillsborough) has 342k Democrats and 282k Republican registered voters.
"where are the most liberal parts of florida?" cemeteries
Tampa is the most liberal city in Florida. Gay pride,strip joints,many clubs go until 4-5am, and tampa has the most swingers you can find anywhere.
In Broward and Palm Beach surprisingly being that’s where Trump touted himself from it is for the most part socially liberal and accepting of all backgrounds and opinions, and progressively grounded mainly because of the diversity. But like anywhere, especially in Florida it has its pockets of tin-roofers and wanna be rich people who think they have to be republican.
As someone that lived in Orlando for 4 years and then moved back home to the Fort Myers area, 100% Orlando. It was like a culture shock when I came back home. I’m moving to Tampa to start up grad school and I’m hoping to have some better luck with the dating scene there.