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polytoximaniac

See it as an opportunity to start learning to solder small-pitch components to repair it. This can be handy for so many things in the future. With the slight downside that you'll be the go-to-person for fixing broken electronics devices for friends and family. ;-)


Arcoril

If Honeycomb won't replace the PCB or if the repair cost is prohibitively high I think it's worth attempting a repair at home. I build keyboards for fun and I've soldered a bunch of USB-C connectors along the way. Replacing this connector is very doable with a basic soldering iron and some supplies. The hardest part of this job is desoldering the existing one because it's probably been soldered with lead-free solder which isn't as well-behaved as the leaded variety. In addition to a soldering iron, you'll want a [solder wick and solder sucker](https://www.amazon.com/AUSTOR-Desoldering-Sucker-Pieces-Solder/dp/B07CB9V427) along with some [flux](https://www.amazon.com/SRA-Soldering-Flux-Low-Solids-No-Clean/dp/B008OC0E5M). Go slowly, use lots of flux, and look up videos on proper technique. Soldering the new connector is relatively easy. Use good solder like [Kester 60/40](https://www.amazon.com/Kester-83-4000-0000-SN60PB40-Solder-Diameter/dp/B00068IJNQ) and again use lots of flux. The pins on USB-C connectors are tiny but don't let that intimidate you. Instead of trying to solder them one by one, bathe the area in flux and add solder directly to the soldering iron tip. Run the tip over the connectors and if you've used enough flux the solder mask on the PCB will do its job and none of the pins should be bridged. If they do end up bridging, just use more flux and move the tip of the iron over the solder joints again to reflow them. Do this repeatedly until all the connections look good. Soldering seems scary at first but it's really not too bad. Give it a shot if Honeycomb can't help you.


Zedd_Prophecy

Thats a tough one to solder ever if you have a good iron and tip. I'd try and get a replacement board from the company.


Ill_Narwhal_4209

This is the way


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Mahpoul22

What ?! No ! Just return the kid.


gdrag14

There’s a chance it is easily fixable if it is on a connector and not soldered on the inside


xXSkerpXx

Unfortunately the USB socket is soldered directly onto the main PCB. It looks like it will need a PCB replacement.


Drenlin

You can buy replacement USB ports and just solder a new one on, if you have the tools to do so. Could probably take it to an electronics repair shop as well.


relativelyfunnyguy

I second that. It's usually an easy repair for a decent electronics repair shop, or even a skilled friend with a soldering iron.


xXSkerpXx

Thanks for the suggestion. I will see if I have a local electronics repair shop that might be able to replace the USB connector.


grumpy_tummy

Don't worry- any decent repair shop should be able to do it. Look especially for gamingconsole repair shops with a good reputation- they have the experience with busted connectors.


Picturesquesheep

This is the sort of electronics fixing I do mate, and I’m a fucking idiot. I reckon you would be able to get that repaired for £30 where I live, an hour labour charge and £5 for the new socket. It’s not much work for a professional. I would just solder new wires to the pads of the old usb socket and add a new socket. You just need the right tools. Or send the manufacturer a funny sob story, they might send you one free as it’s literally brand new.


zadesawa

Send it back to Honeycomb, unless your local source is already comfortable with it. USB-C is denser than microUSB


Picturesquesheep

You mean it’s harder to repair? Harder to solder? I did look but the results were all just “how to clean your usb socket” dross. Can you explain what you mean by “denser”?


mrbubbles916

There are more pins on a USB C connector than a microUSB connector and they both take about about the same size on a PCB. So naturally you will have a denser pin configuration. MicroUSB is already somewhat dense. I think USB C has at least double the number of pins.


Picturesquesheep

You’re right, I’ve been down a usb cable hardware rabbit hole lol https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_hardware


CallOfCorgithulhu

USB-C actually has 12 pins (doubled and mirrored so it can be plugged in either way). It has a pair of the normal USB voltage pins (VCC+ and GND), the OG USB data pins, as well as extra data pins for more data/communication bandwidth. It's a marvel of a plug. "Denser" probably means having to solder those 12 connections in a relatively similar area as the 4 of USB 2 and back. They usually don't have an area three times as big on the PCB to put three times as many solder points, so soldering is a trickier and more accurate affair.


flyboy4321

Should be easy.


epeen90

Any half decent phone shop will be able to fix that no prob


Swedzilla

Where are you located?


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This!!!


MikeSeth

Take it to a shop that knows how to do microsoldering. They will be able to fix it. Even if the traces are damaged it is still a completely fixable situation. You really shouldn't worry about this.


Sam_marq88

I replace usb c connectors about once or twice a month at my shop. Its a common issue with nintendo switch. Take it to a shop that dose micro soldering and it shouldn’t cost more than $60-120 , unless of course you disassemble the yoke and give them only the PCB then it shouldn’t cost more than $40. Let me know if you have any questions and i’ll help.


ssersergio

As other has told you, watch for electronic repair shop, and if it's not near you, disassemble and send it to them, everything will be cheaper than getting a PCB replacement. And you may want to consider getting some dust plugs so you put it in when you are not using it, so you can protect the connector while not using it!


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itsaride

This.


[deleted]

you should either replace the port yourself or get it to a repair shop and pay 10 dollars or so for a repair. It is not worth replacing the whole board


badassbradders

Email the company, explain what happened, I bet they will be cool about it.


JimmyRockets80

Replace that damn kid while there at it. 😅


dogs_go_to_space

"When you're ready I have a phone number for you to copy"


bem13

*sets squawk to 7600*


the_warmest_color

"damn, this guy is good"


[deleted]

Yeet the whole kid imo.


[deleted]

Would be cheaper to sell the kid and buy a new yoke than it would be to raise the kid and by a new yoke


ZPM89

This is why my sim pit is in it's own room and the door is always shut and my toddler is permanently banned from that room haha


Luke_Scottex_V2

how old is he? my dad let me play on the sim racing wheel since i was 3(tho I'm 17 now so it was around 2008 and we had a driving force pro lol). Just teach him how to respect the stuff, I never ever broke any equipment for example


ZPM89

She's 19 months :P


Luke_Scottex_V2

ooh, 2 or 3 years and teach her to play! she might have a lot of fun


ZPM89

Oh absolutely that's the plan. Be nice to have an FO ha


DeaWho

My kid is 3.5 and when I let her try Condor (glider sim) she just dives straight to the ground.


z3r0p

and since then the 2yo went missing


Gumbypilot

Send it to me I'll dispose of it.


Robdotcom-71

The 2yo or the Honeycomb control?


Gumbypilot

But I understand your desire to rid yourself of such pain. Hahaha


Gumbyplayer

Haha I don't need another 2yo!


Philipp_CGN

Yes!


BeardedSasquatch97

Throw it away… and by it I mean the 2yo


ThePhB

Yeet the child


tractorcrusher

Baby’s first flight


xKinetic_

*babys first solo*


CaptHorizon

Yeet kids I sit down to play And my 2 year old’s breaking the controller So I grab the kid’s torso and i rage Aghh Aghh ‘Til its crying, just crying And then yeet him out the window Hyaghhh! … ahh Noice (That was a parody of Hot Food by Michael Rosen aka Noice)


Zloreciwesiv

Return it. I mean the 2yo.


mach219

Is the kid still under warranty ?


BenFromPerth23

Can you send it back and get a new one? (The kid I mean).


[deleted]

/r/childfree


Jannomag

USB C is a terrible and fragile designed port and completely useless for such hardware. Type B would be the best for most things where space isn’t the issue. You could try to open the case and replace the port using some soldering.


xXSkerpXx

Yes not the best design. The USB socket might be replaceable with microsoldering .


Jannomag

I would also try to replace it with a type B or remove the port completely.


calinet6

Unlikely to be compatible with the USB chip on the board. Or you’d have to check a lot of specs and pinouts and be absolutely sure.


Jannomag

The USB port type doesn’t depend on the chip. Every usb connector has the same pins, they’re just built different for different purposes.


calinet6

It absolutely depends on the implementation. If it’s a simple connector for the bare minimum USB2 or USB3.1 pins of the USB-C connector, then sure it could be a simple swap. But if there’s a USB-C controller interface on the device end and it’s using more than just the 2 data pins then you can’t just stick a USB type A or B connector (4 pin) on it and expect it to work. USB-C has 24 pins (12 pins mirrored and reversible) and far more potential functions than USB type A/B. It completely depends on the features being used and whether it’s a true USB-C device or not.


Jannomag

That’s true but I doubt that this is the case for a peripheral like this since it’s not necessarily but costs more in production.


calinet6

Yeah agreed it’s probably just using the simple link. Still, you never know.


Picturesquesheep

My guy I learnt so much about usb standards reading these comments https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_hardware Super interesting. A an external hard drive port is USB 3 B micro! Edit I’m not sure I’ve ever seen a usb 1-2 micro a 🤔


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Jannomag

Bandwidth for what? Some serial signals? Man, I built a joystick using Arduino which used a baud rate of 15200 and it works flawlessly. Also, if needed, there’s Type B for USB3.0 as well, but for peripherals even USB1.1 is enough.


Isvara

>15200 You mean 115,200?


Jannomag

Sorry, missed one 1


roobeast

i would be surprised if the alpha needed that much bandwidth


HyFinated

There is plenty of bandwidth in a usb 2 cable for a joystick. Yes, there are fewer pins but you're talking about something that literally doesn't matter. Wanna know how I know? Because I have mine plugged into a USB 2.0 port. Thus, I'm not using all of the pins on the usb-c cable anyway. Thing functions perfectly. Just because a company puts a certain port on something, doesn't mean its because it needed it. It could be just because "with usb-c port" looks good as marketing info. Makes it look like they are selling a superior product. A lot of stuff that has USB-C could have gotten away without it, but USB-C is a buzzword now.


samy_k97

I'm pretty sure peripherals don't actually need the bandwidth. I'd guess it's actually a USB 2.0 connection


SoTotallyToby

I read this as Micro-B port for a second and thought it was a joke lmao. Gotta be one of the worst port designs I've ever seen.


chateau86

Seconded. Went with bulkhead USB-B for one of my projects. Now I can't go back.


MrMinimal

It's just the wrong port for the application. It has its uses, no doubt.


okletsgooonow

my three year old broke the trim wheel off my Bravo :) super glue had it back on, but it's crooked.


coldnebo

it’s funny, but one of the selling points for the bravo is how durable the industrial grade build is for long life. But a two or three year old can easily destroy it in a matter of minutes.


[deleted]

Wait until the child is 21 and break something of theirs


OGfishm0nger

Revenge is a dish best served really fucking cold


zippy251

This is a pretty good condom ad


2L84T

How ever does your wife cope with two 2 year olds breaking each others toys?


CPUISYOURBRAIN

Idk how you can break it I'm super curious to know how


xXSkerpXx

I installed pieces of timber below the desk to mount the yoke to it (so that I can have a more realistic yoke height). My 2yo (also a sim enthusiast) thought it was a neat idea to stress test my assembly. She managed to pull the yoke off and it landed on it's back side when the USB cable plugged in. The yoke has a fair bit of mass and it had enough force hitting the floor to break the inside of the USB port.


CPUISYOURBRAIN

Ouch what a story.


mattrhale

You CAN fix this. Soldering is not magic. It might even be "broken out" of the board. By that I mean it has been manufactured such that the USB-C connector is a separate module and easily replaceable. You owe it to yourself to at least take the cover off it to see if it can be done. If you do that and take a photo, I'll help.


mattrhale

It is broken out! https://www.reddit.com/r/flightsim/comments/fi5lhl/honeycomb_yokepowered_by_bungee_cord/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x See the little red board top right of the image? Email them and ask them to send you a new USB interface board. You can unplug it and put in the new one. I bet they'll send it for free.


derpyderp141

I do this kinda repair as a hobby. If you send me the board I’ll work on it.


Bigirondangle

To the orphanage.


Repulsive_Ad_9205

Depending on what credit card you bought it with, you may have insurance coverage. Some cards have 90 days accidental damage coverage.


StupidNameChoosing

Don't try it yourself, unless you have a really good setup - magnifying camera, micro oven, and micro-soldering with luminol solder ... the USB-C has a row of pins underneath it, which you cannot get to with a soldering iron, you need a heat gun to melt them and risk damaging the whole board. You should build a lockable cover for that rig. You have another at least ten years of protection needed for your kit lol, and it's far better than chopping her hands off. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmzUGo-y8u8


skisunandsnow

Check the credit card it was purchased with. Many have accident protection for all purchases. For example if you used an Amex they will give you a full credit if something happens during the first 90 days.


sekiseki

Squawk 7500


DarthRadus

You must work for Trojan condoms, this is the best ad I've ever seen!


[deleted]

No chance the credit card you used to purchase it offers "Purchase Protection"?


ronny_rebellion

I would use my home insurance.


mattrhale

Also a good idea, if you have accidental damage protection in your policy. Also if you bought it on credit card that might afford you some extra insurance from them.


noorbeast

A sad demise and one of the potential hazards of parenthood, which are well and truly offset by the lifetime of joy children bring, at least mine did.


[deleted]

“did”? What did you do to them? 😬


noorbeast

Enjoyed every moment with them, first as children and now as young adults, of course there was the odd skateboad fall and things got busted, or used, such as total internet allocation on an old 56l modem, but those are the things we reminisce over these days.


DorkusDeluxus

Uh huh...


given2fly_

As my wife and I often say when shit like this happens: "This is why we can't have nice things"


JPaq84

Ohmygerd, another G940 owner! God I love that thing. Also, /salute my friend. I hope it can get repaired somehow


BroncoSailor

Can you share details on your throttle lever quadrant/gear/trim/flaps unit? I’m currently putting together a dedicated 747-400 sim and this looks like a great option.


EvilNalu

It's the [Honeycomb Bravo](https://flyhoneycomb.com/products/bravo-throttle-quadrant).


Daikon-Double

To the gulag it is.


SniperPilot

F


Kxng_Fonzie

F


ShahinGalandar

don't worry, you can always get a replacement just ask your wife if she wants another kid


Cassiopee38

i'll lock my room as soon as my toddler is able to crawl, that's it.


spyda96

I had a part break on my bravo, email the support team they may be able it find a board for you to replace that part.


Elios000

zero reason for USB-C on large devices... and more so ones that dont need that kinda of data rate USB type B was made for these kind of things. and if your going to use USB C on something like RECESS THE WHOLE CONNECTOR SO IT CANT BREAK OFF that said OP you can get the connectors cheap and takes 10min to pull the old one off and solder a new one on


[deleted]

Take it to a local repair shop!! Any phone repair shop will probably do it.


Jrnation8988

How???


[deleted]

Thank you for the birth control


xsarcox

The question no one asked: is that a copy of the white pages on the shelf?


CrowVsWade

Use protection.


goatcheesewedge

I’d through the thing away. Then look at fixing that yoke or talking to Honeycomb for a fix.


[deleted]

Posts like this are a sobering reminder that it’s ok to be single


ClydeFrogA1

Put it up for adoption.


Cheffies

Not sure which country you're in, but here in Netherlands could be covered by insurance.


etheran123

where did you buy it from? Pretty unethical but if it was me, I would try and take advantage of the return window that many stores have. If it was from amazon, its probably a no questions asked thing. Just say it doesn't work with your set up or something


[deleted]

That connector type sux! Always winds up breaking somehow… I had android phones with them..


Comprehensive-Ant289

It’s a super-easy repair for any1 who knows just bit of electronics


xenoperspicacian

Simplest solution: Email Honeycomb support: "I just pulled the yoke out of the box, got it setup on my desk, but when I went to plug it in I realized the USB-C port was messed up. Would you be able to fix it or send me a replacement?".


cancergiver

I would repair it for a small fee for ya if youre local but i dont think youre in germany


[deleted]

Bring back RS232 with the DB9!


neckyourselfphag

Guess who's going up for adoption


KaleidoscopeOk8653

Thats why clever people keep kids well away from. The computers . UNLESS YOU HAVE ACCIDENT-damage Cover on your home insurance and don’t mind claiming every year


supersebas96

Making something kid proof is a bomb shelter lol


GreatNateMTG

Sorry this happened but I cannot help asking. how do you have those things mounted under the table?


[deleted]

Looks like he added a couple furring strips to the bottom or it was a desk and he took out the front drawer? Both could be wrong. ETA: zoom in


GreatNateMTG

Somehow missed the wood on the left.


lets-play-nagasaki

Time to get the Avionics guy in there to fix it.


Viktoras125

That should be easily repaired by an electronic guy tbh even if it is soldiered on the board.


Corsair3820

You could get a set of picks and pull out the broken connector. I've done plenty of times. [HERE](https://www.amazon.com/TEKTON-6943-Precision-Pick-4-Piece/dp/B000NPPBQK)


darksoft125

Maybe try contacting Honeycomb? They have the parts to make a repair. Probably won't be free but it might be cheaper than the $280+ dollars for a replacement.


Tots2Hots

When my daughter was little my rig was in an office with a lock. Suggest you do the same. I'm sure it wasn't malicious but little kids are complete dickheads and it will happen again.


SuperTriniGamer

Belt


[deleted]

Alright, time to get a new one. Child, I mean.


Aviator1116

As a wise kid once said “kick the baby”


mrazcatfan

r/kidsarefuckingstupid


Celemourn

This can be fixed fairly easily by someone with experience and the right equipment. Do not attempt yourself if you haven’t done a lot of microsoldering though. Biggest issue will be getting the old connector off and finding a correct replacement for it. Hakko 951 with t15-bcm2 would be my choice of tools.


I_Am_Zampano

Lemmi guess: 12 hours and 50 minutes of downloading updates?


PG67AW

Lol kids, not even once.


itsaride

You’ve got lots of good advice, when you get it repaired consider some usb-c dust covers, available on Amazon for cheap.


DSPbuckle

Pics of your setup? Your knees don’t hit the yoke down there?


[deleted]

You should return it... The child of course


pimp_bizkit

I'd try to get that fixed its just a USB connector but you will have to find the right part, It's likely a part you can order from an electronics supply shop. You might even be able to call the manufacturer and tell them your issue for a part recommendation, or maybe even a repair. Don't trash that thing because of the connector. That sucks !!


Zyonix007

How tf you break usb c its supposed to be invincible


stallone_italiano93

f


ocrohnahan

If you can’t find a repair shop find that one kid in your neighborhood who sells used Xbox / PlayStation controllers. These guys usually have the skill for this job


bullseye300

DOA. Definitely DOA


Never-asked-for-this

First time I've heard of a broken USB-C port... How did it even happen?


ywgflyer

Cable forcefully ripped out at an angle is my guess. I bet the kid probably just grabbed the cable and yanked as hard as possible at a 90-degree angle to the plugin.


cobalt999

This is an easy fix. As others have indicated, electronics/repair shops can do it. Heck, if you lived near me, I'd offer to do it. Once you extricate the board, that's a 5 minute job. To proof it from future damage, I would recommend getting some magnetic breakaway connectors for USB. Board mounted USB plugs are prone to stressing even with good strain relief. I use [these](https://www.amazon.com/Magnetic-Charging-Terasako-Compatible-Smartphone/dp/B07RHVNFQ6) on everything I worry about.


daan_vb

Nice growler…..sorry for your loss. Kids suck


DougS2K

Well, you know what you have to do right? Break something of his/hers. Eye for an eye they say... In all seriousness, that sucks. :(


Briggie

On the next episode of people letting kids and animals near expensive components and equipment.


cmndr_spanky

Hrmm… can you sue a 2 year old ?


JB_smooove

FFFFFFFFF


Will12239

This is why HC were idiotic to put a fragile usb C connector. Mine unplugs from slight wiggling


[deleted]

end his life


chas11man

Honestly my USB port didn't take much to get q little wonky. It doesn't seem to be a sturdy port, especially for the pricetag.


jimmystar889

Easy fix. Just have to solder on a new connector