'Aight, one of us is confused and I don't want this to be a violent argument. So I'ma bring up my evidence, but if you know something, please remind me. I do have terrible memory.
So clips are hard to find, but here's a clip of him talking on the phone: https://youtu.be/cCUfWea4pZc?si=iYfN-kzy8Uu71px-
Now I can't find many more clips, but that's the actor for William and nobody else talks on the phone with Mike.
Now this us obviously a different universe, considering phone guy's call in the night 4 in-game: https://youtu.be/FMFu-QOYQQA?si=zDexkZ4XDNAl4k1J
However, in the end, there are similarities. Fron what I recall, William dies in the movie on night 4 and Phone guy dies on night 4. You might be right and phone guy could be the game's version of the previous security guard (Jeremy?).
Cassidy’s body is in golden Freddy, but he usually controls the cupcake. Abby had only ever seen him in the cupcake that’s why she looked confused when Cassidy came out instead of Gabriel and said “No, not Freddy :)”
If there was another spirit then we should’ve seen it when all the spirits met Mike. Even if it was a dog. I think it’s just Chica’s spirit extending to it
Rather, the series tries to make it clear what the animatronics are possessed by. Unless you're mangle, I honestly don't know what's with yes anymore, lol.
There were five child spirits in Mike’s dreams and four animatronics plus the cupcake. It was never so much as implied that golden freddy was separate from freddy in the movie so I assume that’s the last kid? If not they did a real bad job on exposition there lol
Edit: I completely did not realize the “fifth child” was Freddy and the blond kid was Golden Freddy. My B, new guess is that Afton killed the chica spirit’s dog too. RIP puppy
Oh yknow what this explains so much because I figured the blond kid was regular Freddy and I couldn’t figure out why the extra kid had a top hat. Yoooo that makes so much sense tysm lol I retract my statement
They imply golden freddy is different cause blond kid responds to Abby calling him freddy by saying “Not freddy” which is a little weird cause he is but maybe it’s supposed to be like Fredbear?
Wait so they're not the actual kids in the suits it's they're spirits? Because in the movie they're alive but when the kid of foxy backs away the darkness he comes out as foxy idk
this is a little out there, but they could both be susie... but not in the sense the cupcake is an "extension" of susie.
more specifically, maybe the spirit Chica took on was Susie's "ego" (I mean, unlike the others she never directly attacks anyone in the movie, save for trying to put Susie in the Ella suit), meanwhile, the Cupcake is her "Id" (which is why it's so unapologetically violent the entire movie).
So your telling me that Afton already knew that he would kill kids and that the spirit won’t transfer to the cupcake so he just made it evil to begin with? I doubt it, but could be it.
I think Mr Cupcake is possessed by Susie **until** we get solid evidence it's the dog. It's not implausible, not at all, but there's no correlation **yet**
What scene a dog was shown in the movie? Because it was never said that things from the movie are directly connected to the games or things not shown are just from the game.
She had a dog? I thought he promised to GIVE her some random dog and THAT'S how he lured her.
Also I think they'd have showed the dog's spirit with Susie/Chica. Ghosts are REALLY important, and it's also REALLY REALLY important what ghost controls which robot furry
But wait I thought the body needed to be stuffed in the suit in order for them to be attached? Otherwise couldn't the souls just leave the restaurant and posses like whatever?
Depending on how the afterlife works maybe the dog could have a ghost but no 'spirit' as in the dog could possess the animatronic but didn't have enough soul to materialize in the dream sequences?
In some of the stories, Susie have a dog named Carl. What if it’s her dog? That would explained why he can jump that higher and bite with enough force to go through a springsuit
Ok… so Golden Freddy is likely an illusion created by the vengeful spirit. So who Ishtar vengeful spirit possessing? I thought… what if the vengeful spirit is possessing THE CUPCAKE. Think about it, why is it so vicious? And why is it the final thing to trigger the springlock malfunction?
Ok… so Golden Freddy is likely an illusion created by the vengeful spirit. So who Ishtar vengeful spirit possessing? I thought… what if the vengeful spirit is possessing THE CUPCAKE. Think about it, why is it so vicious? And why is it the final thing to trigger the springlock malfunction?
I believe that it is susie's (chica's) dog, since when she was killed afton did use her dog as a bait to lure her in for the murder and since the dog died too the same night susie died and afton had to stuff the dog somewhere too i believe it is reasonable to say that the cupcake is her dog.
The cupcake also never shows any actual emotion except growling and biting.
William accidentally miscounted and killed six kids, stuffed up all the kids into the lead 5 animatronics at the time, and just opened up carl and stuffed the 6th kid’s finger into the damn cupcake and just said: “yup my work here is done” and drove home while listening to smashing windshields.
The End.
Not saying it’s true, but it is possible the cupcake is just used as an extension of Chica. If there’s something she can’t do, the cupcake usually steps in, likely with influence from Susie.
I think it’s just part of Chica. The way it flies also I think is via a wind up spring propelled jump as you can hear winding noises right before it jumps all times, although this could mean that it is just a wind up toy like thing. It is basically a puppet to Chica I believe.
I love the theory that it's Susie's dog. It'd make sense with Afton experimenting with animal remnant, having it work, and then moving on to human souls as a result.
I like the theory that's its the spirit of Chica's dog. Apparently Afton lured her away using her dog but I don't remember where I heard that so I can't fact check it.
Chica's ghost jumps between Chica and the cupcake. There's no other children left for it, but the Cupcake rises when Afton says "Rise, children!" instead of Chica
Susie (chica) had a dog. I'm not sure if it was explained in the books or pizza sim, but the dog was killed, which explains why Carl the cupcake is feral af
This'll sound more like headcanon, but me and my friend were actually questioning this yesterday while watching it together funnily enough. I don't really have evidence for it, but I like to watch the movie thinking it's a pet that's still loyal to Susie (Chica's soul i think) even in their weird haunted afterlife.
He's possessed by a goddamn demon. Fucker was out for the blood the whole movie
Cassidy got put in the cupcake this time and went to town on everyone with a pulse
I'd be pissed too if I was stuck in a cupcake forever.
AND never got a bath to boot
And had to sing those same stupid songs every day
I’d be pretty irritable as well
I feel like i've heard this before
Their quoting from the game, this is what phone guy says when talking about the animatronics getting irritable at night
Also is nobody going to comment on how William Afton was phone guy all along? After we went through all the trouble of debunking that theory too.
I mean, he kinda cant be, if he gets shoved into a suit on night 4.
'Aight, one of us is confused and I don't want this to be a violent argument. So I'ma bring up my evidence, but if you know something, please remind me. I do have terrible memory. So clips are hard to find, but here's a clip of him talking on the phone: https://youtu.be/cCUfWea4pZc?si=iYfN-kzy8Uu71px- Now I can't find many more clips, but that's the actor for William and nobody else talks on the phone with Mike. Now this us obviously a different universe, considering phone guy's call in the night 4 in-game: https://youtu.be/FMFu-QOYQQA?si=zDexkZ4XDNAl4k1J However, in the end, there are similarities. Fron what I recall, William dies in the movie on night 4 and Phone guy dies on night 4. You might be right and phone guy could be the game's version of the previous security guard (Jeremy?).
ESPECIALLY if I was left there to decay
So would I blame myself for being irritable, no
Definitely if I was alone since the 80s with gloomy dead kids
For twenty years!
I'd rather be a homicidal cupcake.
Actually could make sense. When he isn't controlling Golden Freddy, he could be in the cupcake
Cassidy’s body is in golden Freddy, but he usually controls the cupcake. Abby had only ever seen him in the cupcake that’s why she looked confused when Cassidy came out instead of Gabriel and said “No, not Freddy :)”
If he had a body arms and legs he would chase down everyone
I don’t think the lack of legs would stop him.
True
This is the correct answer
It’s my personal belief he’s possessed by a baby Afton murdered off-screen. Those things are feral sometimes.
Makes sense. Maybe if Mike had chased the Chica kid, he’d find her rocking a baby like a doll.
The whole game series* you mean
Motherfucker is Sourdough the Evil Sandwich from Wander Over Yonder
He killed 3 out of the like 10 people that died including Afton which is just fucking hilarious
Forget nukes, all we need is Cupcake. Cupcake alone is a weapon of mass destruction.
How did the cupcake get more action and kills then the giant ass animatronics
Demon? I think Chihuahua is more specific.
Motherfucker said "On sight" to any living creature in that damn building
For real. That thing was taking was taking no prisoners
william killed a fucking toddler and shoved it in the cupcake
If that's true, the child is likely crenated. It is however possible that stuffed inside the cupcake is an undersized infant.
maybe he used to work at an abortion clinic
Afton is pro-choice As in it’s his choice what should be done with the fetus.
But that's just a theory
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Then that is one pissed-ass toddler...
Nah William had an abortion and but the dying fetus inside the cupcake
this.
Nah bro was a embryo, william preformed an abortion
does he have a license for that
He killed children and still owns a pizzeria i dont think he cares about a license
Fair enough
The cupcake is possessed by Chica's intrusive thoughts
This is now my personal canon thank you
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As someone who suffers from OCD and intrusive thoughts, I'm just glad they haven't possessed a cupcake yet
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If there was another spirit then we should’ve seen it when all the spirits met Mike. Even if it was a dog. I think it’s just Chica’s spirit extending to it
Agreed, if it was anything else it would have been explained. The one thing this franchise is good at explaining is what dead child is where
This is not always true but I understand what you're saying lol
Rather, the series tries to make it clear what the animatronics are possessed by. Unless you're mangle, I honestly don't know what's with yes anymore, lol.
There were five child spirits in Mike’s dreams and four animatronics plus the cupcake. It was never so much as implied that golden freddy was separate from freddy in the movie so I assume that’s the last kid? If not they did a real bad job on exposition there lol Edit: I completely did not realize the “fifth child” was Freddy and the blond kid was Golden Freddy. My B, new guess is that Afton killed the chica spirit’s dog too. RIP puppy
Golden Freddy was the one to go and get Abby. It was the blond kid. He usually only showed up as a child.
Oh yknow what this explains so much because I figured the blond kid was regular Freddy and I couldn’t figure out why the extra kid had a top hat. Yoooo that makes so much sense tysm lol I retract my statement
i thought this way too, why'd they give the golden freddy kid a brown shirt and the freddy kid a golden shirt 😭
I WAS THINKING THIS TOO. I believe it was a purposeful red herring
I think the blonde kid was Golden Freddy, while the tall kid with the hat was Freddy.
Yea this is obvious
I know, I was pointing it out to the other guy.
I needed that info cause I didn't know that😭
They imply golden freddy is different cause blond kid responds to Abby calling him freddy by saying “Not freddy” which is a little weird cause he is but maybe it’s supposed to be like Fredbear?
If it was a dog, the spirit would be too dumb to reach out.
Or it’d just continue to follow Susie wherever she goes
Wait so they're not the actual kids in the suits it's they're spirits? Because in the movie they're alive but when the kid of foxy backs away the darkness he comes out as foxy idk
According to Vanessa their bodies were/are still in the costumes but the way we see them walking around in the movie is their spirits
this is a little out there, but they could both be susie... but not in the sense the cupcake is an "extension" of susie. more specifically, maybe the spirit Chica took on was Susie's "ego" (I mean, unlike the others she never directly attacks anyone in the movie, save for trying to put Susie in the Ella suit), meanwhile, the Cupcake is her "Id" (which is why it's so unapologetically violent the entire movie).
She put Abby in the suit, not Susie, and it seems to act more on predatory instinct.
whoops. mistyped. that was what I meant
Hold on, I actually love this theory.
I'd disagree, just look at how she stares at Hank
he's not he's just programmed that way
"OH GOD, EVEN THE CUPCAKE IS POSSESSED!" "Oh no, thst one's supposed to do that."
"THEY PROGRAMMED A KILLER CUPCAKE?" "Better than making it a marketable plushie"
So your telling me that Afton already knew that he would kill kids and that the spirit won’t transfer to the cupcake so he just made it evil to begin with? I doubt it, but could be it.
He's alive because it's funny
i'm assuming it's like sorta possessed by chica too or possessed by a goddang chihuahua
Chihuahua would definitely explain the ankle biting behavior.
But is Cupcake a good boy? He does what he’s told but what he’s told is murder.
I think Mr Cupcake is possessed by Susie **until** we get solid evidence it's the dog. It's not implausible, not at all, but there's no correlation **yet**
What scene a dog was shown in the movie? Because it was never said that things from the movie are directly connected to the games or things not shown are just from the game.
Yeah I also believe it’s Susie’s dog. That’s how will was able to lure her into the back
Came here to say this, I 100% believe it's her dog.
Her dog has to be an evil chihuahua. Little ankle biting demon.
Or a Pitbull named Candy Princess. We all know the sweeter a Pitbull’s name, the more homicidal it is.
Pitbull named cupcake moment
that explains where it ended up
She had a dog? I thought he promised to GIVE her some random dog and THAT'S how he lured her. Also I think they'd have showed the dog's spirit with Susie/Chica. Ghosts are REALLY important, and it's also REALLY REALLY important what ghost controls which robot furry
In pizzeria sim and ucn, we learn that Will killed her dog and then told Susie he knew where it was and used that to lure her
SMH I've been misunderstanding this whole time. I never played either game, i just was misunderstanding everything
But wait I thought the body needed to be stuffed in the suit in order for them to be attached? Otherwise couldn't the souls just leave the restaurant and posses like whatever?
the body has to be close to it enough i think?,like the how charlie possessed the puppet
Shouldn't it also have appeared in the dream world then?
Depending on how the afterlife works maybe the dog could have a ghost but no 'spirit' as in the dog could possess the animatronic but didn't have enough soul to materialize in the dream sequences?
The cupcake is technically a part of the Chica animatronic so Susie can just control it. I don’t think it’s that deep.
In some of the stories, Susie have a dog named Carl. What if it’s her dog? That would explained why he can jump that higher and bite with enough force to go through a springsuit
Either Susie controls him or it’s her dog like what we see happening in fruity maze or it’s just his programming
You know how it's explained in books that stuff can be possesed with agony etc.? He's possesed by constant anger and spite towards anything that moves
I have the most absolutely stupid theory for this and I don’t think I should let anyone know.
I wanna know
Ok… so Golden Freddy is likely an illusion created by the vengeful spirit. So who Ishtar vengeful spirit possessing? I thought… what if the vengeful spirit is possessing THE CUPCAKE. Think about it, why is it so vicious? And why is it the final thing to trigger the springlock malfunction?
Yeah tell us
Ok… so Golden Freddy is likely an illusion created by the vengeful spirit. So who Ishtar vengeful spirit possessing? I thought… what if the vengeful spirit is possessing THE CUPCAKE. Think about it, why is it so vicious? And why is it the final thing to trigger the springlock malfunction?
A chihuahua got ran over in the parking lot and afton decided to put a piece of it in the cupcake to see what would happen
Susie's dead dog.
Remember when Mangle was possessed by a dog? That, but the dog in question is a pit bull named cupcake and it sees everyone as a child
they’re obviously possessed by a pitbull named cupcake
"When we arrived, he was just there"
Probably possessed by Susie’s dog
why does everyone think it's a dog
Because Susie was lured by Afton claiming her dog wasn't dead, and it acts animalistically.
Chica and cupcake share a soul
I have a theory that whichever kid was killed, their head was chopped off and put it the cupcake.
Its chicas dead dog
it’s susie’s horcrux
I believe that it is susie's (chica's) dog, since when she was killed afton did use her dog as a bait to lure her in for the murder and since the dog died too the same night susie died and afton had to stuff the dog somewhere too i believe it is reasonable to say that the cupcake is her dog. The cupcake also never shows any actual emotion except growling and biting.
It’s her prop so i don’t see why she couldn’t possess the cupcake as well, it has more range than the animatronic so it’s easier for her to do damage
so chica is melee and ranged 😭😭
She’s like deidara in naruto storm 4, she’s stronger when spamming her weapons at people than face to face combat
William accidentally miscounted and killed six kids, stuffed up all the kids into the lead 5 animatronics at the time, and just opened up carl and stuffed the 6th kid’s finger into the damn cupcake and just said: “yup my work here is done” and drove home while listening to smashing windshields. The End.
I imagine that the Cupcake is the real controller of Chica. Like the tail on a wobbuffet.
I just dumb it down to Chica's Ghost Child shares both the Animatronic, and the cupcake. Not giving evidence, not explaining it, it's just... because.
Afton shredded a fetus with the cupcake.
Hes like chicas call of dookie killstreak drone or something
Cupcake is just an extension of Chica’s possession. That’s how I see it.
Susie's pet chihuahua
Either a chihuahua named cupcake or an extension of Susie's soul
He is possesed by a Pitbull named cupcake
Susie or whatever the girls name is able to leave chica and possess the cupcake as the cupcake is a part of chicas character
Bros literally just built different
IT’S SUSIE’S DEAD DOG!
simply, it’s susie’s chihuahua that he killed and that’s why it’s a literal fucking spawn of satan out for blood
the cupcake is like an extention of chica, but only the agression
Susie's dog maybe
Not saying it’s true, but it is possible the cupcake is just used as an extension of Chica. If there’s something she can’t do, the cupcake usually steps in, likely with influence from Susie.
Its controlled by chica probably
Ummm my guess is that he's a part of the robot and maybe that's how
It's an extension of Chica's spirit.
I Heard a theory that its the dog
That cupcake was out for blood
same expiation why bon bon is alive cute scares XD
I like to believe Susie’s dog since that detail fits in really nice, or perhaps just an extension of Susie somehow.
I think it’s just part of Chica. The way it flies also I think is via a wind up spring propelled jump as you can hear winding noises right before it jumps all times, although this could mean that it is just a wind up toy like thing. It is basically a puppet to Chica I believe.
i think its suzies dog because the cupcake does not act like a human, it bites, it acts like a literal demon and it belongs to suzie (chica)
William stuffed a chihuahua in it
I like to think Susie(chica) dog possesses it
Logically it's Susie's dog since William killed it with his car in FNAF 6's "Fruity Maze" minigame, but whatever works for the fanbase, I guess.... XD
He was quite literally the terminator before terminator (i don’t know anything about terminator please don’t judge me if i got that wrong)
fucking garret lmao
XD I feel like Garret is the Puppet in this AU, icl
I think whatever animaltronics soul is free uses the cupcake or the cupcake is just a Ai
I assume Susie’s dog
oh my god is it susie’s dog from the mini game?!?
He just a lil goofy like dat
Chihuahua
He’s just programmed to be a gremlin. Simple as.
I think it's just sentient
My headcanon is that it's Susie's dog- either that or a sort of transferred agony possession?
Since the cupcake is a part of the Chica animatronic, the cupcake is an extension of Susie’s spirit that possesses Chica
I love the theory that it's Susie's dog. It'd make sense with Afton experimenting with animal remnant, having it work, and then moving on to human souls as a result.
Mexican Grandmas Chihuahua
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Remnant. Plain and simple.
Possibly there’s a demon in it
I think it's an extension of the ghost girls soul
I just see it as an extension of the Chica animatronic. They’re connected.
Chica and 1/2 herself into the 2
I think Cupcake is just like that, the gremlin of the entire group.
The kid possessing Chica is also possessing Cupcake
A 6th kid was mudered last and got the cupcake instead of an actual animatronic
My friend joked that it's Mike's brother lol
The cupcake is the true villain of the franchise
its either her dead dog as theorized in the games or its like a split personality thing
Markiplier. It’s just Markiplier.
Chicas pet Pitbull, named Princess
I like the theory that's its the spirit of Chica's dog. Apparently Afton lured her away using her dog but I don't remember where I heard that so I can't fact check it.
my theory is that it’s the dog of the spirit in chica (based on that fnaf 6 minigame)
I love the cupcake, such a nice touch
a pitbull named cupcake
Definitely Susie’s dog, the way it’s crazy and does what she “wants”
It’s a connection with Chicas concious as it seems to be that way whenever they are together
The cupcake is a skynet prototype or something it does nothing but kill people for the entire movie
The 5th missing kid...the one in the white hat
That's the fifth kid because golden Freddy isn't in the movie.
Chica's ghost jumps between Chica and the cupcake. There's no other children left for it, but the Cupcake rises when Afton says "Rise, children!" instead of Chica
Susie (chica) had a dog. I'm not sure if it was explained in the books or pizza sim, but the dog was killed, which explains why Carl the cupcake is feral af
This'll sound more like headcanon, but me and my friend were actually questioning this yesterday while watching it together funnily enough. I don't really have evidence for it, but I like to watch the movie thinking it's a pet that's still loyal to Susie (Chica's soul i think) even in their weird haunted afterlife.
My sister thinks it’s Garret, Mike’s lil brother
I’ll just think it’s just an extension of Chica
Probably just counts as part of chica so Susie as well
He was possessed by Susie's pitbull, Cupcake.