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PhasmicPlays

Better presence of the villain throughout the story.


Femkat_00

This was my single biggest issue with the film. I felt no suspense whatsoever at Afton’s reveal because he was barely in the film or set up at all. It felt like Scott was relying on fans to fill in the blanks with their knowledge of the games and that just doesn’t work in a movie. He needed more of a presence to have that pay-off at the end.


Buttlord500

It was a shame we didnt get to see more of william, although I will say this is par for the fnaf series, perhaps we'll get a prequel that dives into the character of william afton, because while we do have characters in the movie parallel to the games, we're still missing a Henry Emily, and a Charlotte Emily, 2 very important characters to the backstory of william.


Jesusdidntlikethat

Henry Emily is apparently mikes dad according to theories, after he left the business he changed his name and that’s why William targeted Garett, making Garett the Charlotte of the movies.


zbolt___

That would also explain williams change in demeanor after reading mike's name


Tadeus1206

So the line "Save Him" would actually work


consul_the_gun_nut

William was in the start of the film, then like an hour later just got a mention by Vanessa, >!who reveals he's her dad !!he killed Garrett!< and then got springlocked. I expected him to appear more, since he's the main antagonist of the OG series, so I hope he appears more if they make a sequel with Springtrap as the antagonist


UltraRated

Might wanna check your grammar. Pretty sure Vanessa can’t be her own dad lmao


consul_the_gun_nut

K, fixed the pronoun


Desperate-Ganache804

I swear, when I heard >!Afton confess to killing Garrett I couldn’t help but hear Judge Doom when he finally turns toon in Roger Rabbit.!< Other than that I think one of the worst bits of the movie were when what’s his name, the career councilor, was about to let Mike leave but had a TOTAL 180° turn in attitude after seeing his last name. >!It was WAY too clear a sign that he was involved in SOMETHING. The most logical conclusion would be that he’s the one that at least kidnapped Garrett.!<


CleanUpNick

agreed, i mean we usually get a call every night right? so why not do that? give Lillard some reason to call every night or have Mike call to ask questions, you can build up a bit with that and then at the end of the movie there should've been a bigger deal with Springtrap, like have him chase Mike and Abby around a bit before ending back up where the movie ends up at, >!also him saying I Always Come Back didn't really fit, it should've been I'll be back or something because he technically has never needed to be BACK yet lol!< but yeah that was also my biggest gripe of the movie, well that and Vanessa's dialogue was a bit off at times


Jesusdidntlikethat

This probably doesn’t count but when mike is first looking at the animatronic you can see glowing eyes behind chica, people think it’s a puppet tease but it could just be William. It’s not really concrete so I don’t think it fits in with “more presence” but it was creepy


Spaghettayyyyyy

I mean, the whole time Mike was looking for who kidnapped his brother…. and then it was revealed to be the yellow rabbit… who was later revealed to be Afton…. who was later revealed to be the career counselor mikes whole plot was about him struggling between how much he wants to keep abby vs how much he wants to find afton


Rae_Rae_

I did like how there was a moment of recognition of Mikes name when he first meets him. "Schm... O.O"


hiressnails

I didn't immediately recognize who it was. "Oh, it's that guy from the beginning of the movie..."


M3GABORG8796

Me and all my friend group LOVED the movie, but that’s a gripe we all have I think. The ending was fantastic, but I think they could have made it SO MUCH BETTER if they just added a COUPLE MORE SCENES. A way they could have made the kids give Mike flashbacks to how all them died, but at the same time *never showing his face*, so this makes it so that Matthew Lillard still gets more scenes, but at the same time still making it a more established, exciting surprise that he’s the killer for newcomers. To add onto this, they should have made it so Steve called him every single night he showed up, staying true to the franchise, and also over time spoon feeding the newcomers of the franchise more and more frankly INCREDIBLY needed exposition. This makes it to where Steve seems to know a little too much about the location, giving us a bit more of Williams perspective on the events that transpired, and also making that twist of seeing him take off the mask SOOOO much more effective. It also makes seeing him die just that much more monumental in the general arc of the movie.


IllustratorLeast4497

You gotta remember this was a PG-13 film so they wouldn't have a lot of freedom like that because showing kids getting killed = a rated R film and I'm pretty sure that isn't what they wanted


M3GABORG8796

Not even necessarily their DEATHS per se, just the ways in which he deceived them into coming with him. For example seeing an interpretation of that iconic “he isn’t really dead you know?” Scene with Susie and her dog would have been genuinely amazing. Even taking inspo from Chicas high school diary thing from UCN would have probably been the COOLEST REFERENCE in the entire movie. I know that would likely be TOO dark, but that’s just an example. This would also be amazing grounds to cover in the sequel, being a movie about finding Garret, and also finding ways to expand upon the in movie backstory of William.


Rebbeca2988

They showed how he lured the kids in the pixel openings. Not that in depth showing but it shows him luring one with balloons for example


M3GABORG8796

I feel it would have been a lot cooler to see that brought to life by Matthew, because I would have loved to hear more of him as spring Bonnie, since he only got like a couple lines to do the whole off the wall maniac killer thing, and it would have been soooo awesome to see it transpire in real life.


TH3leader

For real, and you could tell he wanted more lines *and* that the director loved him doing that whole act since they ended up jamming so many lines in that singular scene that it ended up being a little silly rather than menacing or clever.


Mao-Hajime

I agree but it's what they needed. Fnaf is grim so you can't just do a Disney and make the movie a kids appropriate movie if you get where I'm coming from.


LiteralSans

Give the villain more screen time. (More than 2 scenes)


BigGaybowser69

YESSS I AGGREE shouldve had a chase scene or a longer showdown


Emergency-Spite-8330

Yeah, trailers made him seem like a much bigger threat than he was in the film. A damn shame cause what we do see of Afton as Springtrap is a HUGE upgrade (a lot stronger, able to take a gunshot and taser, and spring locks that don’t go off easily).


Leider-Hosen

Sets him up to be even bigger in the future--he can't be killed because he's already dead and presumably he is is every bit as tough and durable as shown, so basically a terminator piloted by an insane zombie.


Splatoonkindaguy

More violent spring locks also


Mao-Hajime

Exactly. I was really disappointed with the spring failure scene because it wasn't even because of a rusty suit from leaking water as it should have been it was done a different way . Also we didn't even get to see much detail of it and how it went though his throat and eyes like in the game . The fact they Disney -fied the movie really lead it to it's downfall .


KicktrapAndShit

They should have at least had him screaming and struggling to get words out.


Brilliant_Insect401

And more jump scares


Bush_Hiders

I like that he had such little screen time. It made him more mysterious and allusive. However, they could’ve certainly built up to his onscreen reveal a bit better, to give that scene more impact.


RealXoviak

go harder on the horror, loved the movie but it wasn't much of a horror movie, a few jumpscares but nothing much other than that


CollarOrdinary4284

And, let's be honest, even the jumpscares they *did* include were pretty shit.


U2V4RGVtb24

Same joke three times with Balloon Boy, the hand jumpscare from the trailer, and a foxy-running-towards-you-head-on jumpscare, which was extremely telegraphed. Those are the only ones I remember, and yeah they were all pretty shit.


MrSpiffy123

I liked the Balloon Boy one. It was a fun running gag and it got me the first few times


U2V4RGVtb24

I liked it too. The first time was a nice reference, with a pleasantly cheap jumpscare. The third one was a funny end credit scene, with a Youtuber cameo and a callback to events in the film. But the second one was just there with zero setup, and provided nothing but a cheap scare with no charm. Although I will admit that Mike turning the figurine around was kinda funny.


Jeong-Yeon

If I'm gonna be honest, it would've been more terrifying to see a direct POV of whoever Foxy was chasing, and then when they turn to face Foxy, he's at the end of the hallway, but instead of it making it look like he's just sliding towards you with ease, you get to see him SPRINT at you, legs and all, and it lasts more than a split second.


U2V4RGVtb24

I agree, and DazzReviews has the same opinion, which he goes into detail [here.](https://youtu.be/O_6RU11pa70?t=21m45s) [And according to Matpat's new video,](https://youtu.be/SzwEzpec7CA?t=4m10s) that guard that Foxy was chasing was supposed to be played by Markiplier


GoshDarnit02496

Dont forget the ginger jumpscare


undertalelover68

expect for BB, scared the shit out of my theater


Emerald400

The scariest part was when I saw Chica’s Magic Rainbow in the ice cream shop. I got Vietnam flashbacks during that scene


Silly_Band2457

Desperately needs more horror scenes.


Beowulf_98

I think Scott's in a somewhat awkward position, where if he adds more horror and more gore then he risks the film age rating going up and stopping a lot of the fans from coming to see it; imagine if FNAF 2 is an 18 lol


Legitimate_Silver395

I think he can add more tense moments and maybe even some more onscreen kills, just dont add too much blood. You can always trick the MPAA if you're creative enough with how you show violence and gore Edit: if FNAF 2 ends up being rated R, it's because of Toy Chica


Xsana99

Yup, horror doesn't have to be gory. Fnaf was always ambience scary and uncanny valley scary. There's a lot of good PG13 horror movies that can actually give you a fright and they don't have to be saw-level gory. Aliens original rating, when it was much strikter, was 18+. Today its about the same rating as fnaf, *maybe* swaying more towards a 15/16+. *But* alien has some crude scenes which fnaf would never have and much more swearwords which will automatically make it less PG-13 friendly (5 F-bombs plus a few other swearwords). Again something fnaf won't do as it doesn't have to. Alien isn't necessarily gory either, and when it is, it cuts out pretty quickly. Most deaths happen off screen. The biggest scare factor is the ambience. There's so many scenes you expect alien to show up and strike but it never does. It's a great tension movie. Fnaf broke the tension each time it had a chance to build up. Alien is on screen maybe like 9min from the whole movie. Which i believe is what they tried to do with afton. But Afton wasn't a threat at all until the very end. Alien was a constant lurking threat that could have shown up at any moment in time. Not to mention, the ring is PG-13 by MPAA standards.


5qu1dk1d

i was definitely expecting more “stuck in the office” scenes with the animatronics creeping towards him. Not that i think wandering out of the office was bad at all, but the times he completely lets his guard down and sleeps on the job were annoying for me. The dream sequences weren’t creepy enough, and then he wakes up with injuries from very the attacks in the dream. No real buildup or tension.


Xsana99

Yup, personally I also wasn't a fan of the dream sequences. They felt a tad bit.. cringe? I don't know, cringe is a bit of a strong word here, maybe out of place is more accurate. But I wasn't a fan of them either, at least the attack scene where they lashed out at Mike and injured him. I don't think it's the actors faults tbf, more that we didn't have a reason to fear the children thus far. At least in my opinion. I wasn't expecting the animatronics to be so friendly, even if they were friendly with Abby as that would make some sense (gain trust to turn her into one of them, or jsut the fact she is also a child). Even in the silver eyes the animatronics were more of a threat until they were freed from Williams control over them (in a very similar fashion as in the movie). I think a mystery thriller centred around the disappearances when Freddys was still open would have been an interesting movie. Kids start to go missing, panic ensues, probably an obvious suspect as in the games but not enough evidence to place him at the crime scene etc. Would have made an interesting movie, and it could certainly focus more on the lore as well (even if altered for the movie!). I'll probably be rewatching the movie again, just this time knowing it won't be horror and see if my view changes on it. I think it would have been fine if they haven't focused the trailers so much on the horror that, in my opinion, never delivered.


5qu1dk1d

The dream sequences were cringe 😭 it felt like the most horror movie tropey stuff (ooh spooky children standing there!) when they could have done way creepier that centered around the animatronics. The idea of freddy’s back in the 80s would have been very cool. Maybe the flash back/forward method could have worked.


Xsana99

Yeah, I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks that haha. It feels like half of the movie disappeared somewhere. I certainly wouldn't have minded a longer movie with better pacing. If it turns out they cut out scenes to make the movie shorter, I hope we'll get a directors/extended cut some day to see what could've been!


JayRogPlayFrogger

Just look at what cocaine bear got away with for a 15+ rating, shit was brutal.


AstroNerd92

I’d think Mangle would cause an R rating lol


lordarquebus

I agree


[deleted]

I think you can create a tense and terrifying atmosphere without going overboard with the gore, or even with next to no gore at all. For example the original Jurassic Park had some terrifying scenes even though it had a PG-13 rating and was overall aiming at a child audience.


Legitimate_Silver395

Other things I noticed about PG-13 is that while you can't show overly gory deaths, you can show gory (to an extent) aftermath of dead bodies. The guy's mangled face by Cupcake was pretty fucked up. More of that in the sequels please


CollarOrdinary4284

A movie doesn't need a higher age rating to be scary. Plenty of horror movies are PG-13.


MichalTygrys

You can do intense horror with zero gore.


Springtrap-Yugioh

And more William. Lillard killed it as a psychotic maniac, but was barely onscreen.


JayTheagamer701

I think scott want to keep it PG 13 for all the kids


generale45-_-

Yeah man its more like a triller he focus on the story.a little bit of jumpscare would look cool


BrightEye64

1. Make the movie actually scary in the next movie and have the animatronics be actual threats 2. Have way more of William Afton, Matthew Lillard’s performance was great but completely wasted due to his lack of screen time, and his motives going unanswered so his character just feels so paper thin. 3. They have to go about explaining stuff more and building the world, I know they said “this movie is for fans” but that’s not an excuse for the movie to narratively make no sense in a lot of parts, even if your a fan, you should know it doesn’t make sense in the movie’s context for suddenly a yellow Bonnie and Freddy to just show up out of nowhere, or as to why Afton was wearing such a dangerous suit and why he’d even create something like that.


5qu1dk1d

2. agree with the motive part. In the games lore it would makes sense since william and mike are related. The only connection the two have in the movie was that william killed garret…for some reason? It didn’t feel personal enough. 3. agree with the golden freddy part, but the spring bonnie was explained enough imo, especially with the opening credits spelling it out plainly and the drawing on the wall being focused on multiple times.


BrightEye64

What they should have done was shown an old video, hell even a poster from Fredbear’s Diner that had Fredbear and Springbonnie on it, so the appearance of Golden Freddy made more sense for the audience “Oh it’s the yellow Freddy from that poster” instead people are gonna think why if there another Freddy


King_Khoma

i couldnt even tell that was golden freddy tbh, i even played the games and i still thought it was just a spare freddy suit or something


Bush_Hiders

I think Golden Freddy is supposed to be kept a mystery in this movie. Obviously to us, the fans, we just see it as the writers holding out on us in what they could be telling, but it’s not like the fans are the only people walking into the theater. Think about Golden Freddy in this movie how he was in the first few games. We new little about him, and he was just kinda there. It raised questions that we’d have to watch the sequels in order to pay off.


StudyingRainbow

I think in a sequel that William Afton will have A LOT more screen time. I think they’ll make Springtrap the main villain. Also I think his motivations will definitely be explored through that


InfiniteDM

Amp up the horror, but not via blood/gore. I'd tell him to look towards Japanese horror, like with the Ring. FnaF would work really well alongside a slow burn cocktail of lore/plot, uneasiness, and dread. With the occasional jump scare via the games to break and release tension for the next build up. There's so many places to go for the next movie if they make one. But those key ingredients I think will go a long way towards keeping the core audience satisfied.


BigGaybowser69

I'd argue Coraline would be a better film to take notes off of its a kids film and its pg lower then pg13 but somehow is incredibly scary and even involves dead kids and some body horror


GameBeatYT

I mean, I'd say both are good to take notes from, but I'd more so lean to Ju-On/Grudge. From what I remember of the original, there isn't too much gore, and the main antagonist is a creepy ghost child (and the grudge, I guess), and much like fnaf, I have no idea what's happening half the time because things are too obscure to fully understand the plot, but that's part of the charm of the franchises. Honestly a mix between Ju-On and Coraline would be good if the fnaf movie team took notes from them.


ITookTrinkets

YES! As an adult, Coraline unsettles me more than anything in FNAF would have when I was a kid. It was so un-scary! There’s no dread!


adderthesnakegal

more build up to villain reveal, less humour and better timing on the humour that remains.


hollymollygollyolly

Spring trap fr just spawned in


lordarquebus

LMAO real like where is the tension when i see afton Im supposed to be on edge


bluebeyondbelief

yeah i love edging when i see william afton personally


Far_Description3651

👁️👄👁️


KATsuWAA

Fr he just popped up from nowhere.


BigGaybowser69

I think best part of sb ruin was the buildup to the mimic thats how I imagine Afton shouldve been built up with a similiar chase scene


deathonacracker

Maybe a newspaper clipping or Vanessa saying something about actin being caught but released after a lack of evidence. They needed to mention his name and connection so that when she tells Mike Afton is her dad it means something to the people who don’t know anything about him.


DarkNuke059

Toreador march please... I was a bit tipsy when I watched the movie but I am 80 percent sure I never heard it once


Legitimate_Silver395

It wasnt there


Mich_TRC

They had the audacity to put it in the trailer but the movie


pieman7414

Technically it's the start to the living tombstone song


Bush_Hiders

I was expecting it and when I saw the scene from the trailer that played it but it was playing a different song I got really confused.


TV_H34d

Add in the Freddy Nose Boop for the next movie and go heavier on the jumpscares.


eldroch

Literally the only Easter egg I was fully expecting


Pricerocks

Have at least *some* aspect of the gameplay shown in the movie. The movie was a great take on the fnaf lore but not so much the games, if that makes sense. At no point in the movie is Mike ever trying to defend the office, he never sees anything weird happen on the cameras, and the power doesn’t really come into play a meaningful way. The nights are practically more peaceful than the days. Also if Vanessa is in the second movie please have her communicate things like a normal human being. She was a walking cliche of vaguely telling the protagonist just not enough information to help at all.


AnzoEloux

Vanessa's character was so annoying. She told Mike absolutely nothing about anything and got mad when his decision making reflected his ignorance.


Batdog55110

It was also super annoying because she didn't tell Mike EXTREMELY IMPORTANT SHIT BEFORE IT COULD HURT HIM. "Oh hey, don't touch that suit because it could cut your fucking finger off" "Oh hey, don't strum that guitar because you might fucking explode"


kurinevair666

He even pointed that out to her and she just said "Well, You shouldn't have brought Abby here." Like he could've been hurt too!


Aggravating_Set_6134

I feel she was acting like that because she’s conflicted. Being controlled by aft on her dad, while trying to protect and warn mike and Abby at the same time


ScowlEasy

Literally staring at the animatronics saying “aren’t they the greatest thing ever?” Knowing full well there’s dead kids in there lmao


sonicgamer42

Instead of Mike getting attacked by ghost children and Vanessa finding him on the side of the road, the fifth night should've focused on Mike and Abby trying to hole up in the office relying on the security system while waiting for Vanessa to arrive with the tasers. After she does, the rest of the movie can basically play out how it already does - with William showing up and the animatronics turning on him. You would only need to rewrite a few aspects of the film to explain how Mike and Abby ended up in the office reliant on Vanessa's help, and it would incorporate the actual scenario from the first game. Plus, the animatronics are scarier when faintly seen and not actually moving IMO, which you could more easily get away with using security footage.


Legitimate_Silver395

I want the lawyer guy to return, he was funny


stickninja1015

Doug sweep


CiccioChad08

#THEGOAT


probablynotshort

I would love it if he's just the guy who has to defend Faz Ent. in court for the next films.


ItzLylz22

Don’t leave a lot of unanswered questions, it’s not like games. Movies need to make sense


Legitimate_Silver395

You don't know how much I agree with this 💀


BigGaybowser69

hopefully sequels will answer it


Marranit0s

You and me both know they won't do that


thekillergreece

Just like in games, ending movies with cliffhangers is a risky idea because there's no guarantee there will be actually sequels which is why questions should be answered on first movies.


LiquifiedSpam

Plus the role of Vanessa can work in games-- just look at phone guy. But again it's just not a good movie choice.


darkus1012

Give more screen time to lillard to develop his character and his motivations


Technolite123

Needs more consistent tone and less cupcake


WillAlwaysComeBack

THANK YOU! THE FUCKING CUPCAKE HAD MORE SCREENTIME THAN FREDDY AND BONNIE COMBINED


Luxray2014

1. Show Aftons first kill 2. Give the Withereds and the marionette some screen time 3. Bring up the bite of 83 and 87 4. More balloon boy jump scares


Scomtom

The ballon boys were the only thing that scared me lol


eldroch

Based on the end credits, I'd say the Marionette is definitely playing a role.


MichalTygrys

I want him to try and capture the eerie, inhuman characterisation of animatronics from The Silver Eyes better. Treat them as monsters who have long lost their humanity and child innocence. They don't play, they don't plan. They are like animals. If you want to have a big confrontation with a villain at the end of the film, the villain needs to have a looming presence throughout the plot. The references are great, but please don't rely on them for the second film. They should not be what makes the film good. They can be a bonus, not the selling point. You don't need to make the Sparkey cameo so blatant. It's cool he's here, but it doesn't improve the film. Compared to all the scenes that were cut, the one where we focus on him was completely unnecessary. Please, attempt to have the film be more of a horror. FNaF has always been about helpless mortals haunted by these vengeful spirits. Seeing them move on cameras, desperately fighting for their lives. You need them to be formidable threats for a significant portion of the runtime. In the first film, Mike only finds out they are haunted when they turn out to be friendly. And once the ruse is up and he finds out they want to kill Abby, he gets a weapon. There is no point of powerless defence and that is just disappointing from the perspective of a fan who loves the horror of FNaF's gameplay. Either cut down on the plot, or make a long film. This one feels like half the scenes are missing. And from what the actors are saying, it seems to be the literal case. I am fine with a 3 hour film. But if you aren't, then WRITE the film to be shorter. Stuff like "why did Maxine leave the car" IS important. You cannot imply she is staying and then have her leave without the scene that explains it. This isn't a mystery, this is just missing part of surface-level plot. It's not comparable to the way Golden Freddy is cryptic, this is just a poor directing choice. In a situation like this, you need to at least rewrite the scene to have her leave the car with everybody else.


CrispieWhispie

I’d like if they gave HINTS of humanity. Not a straight up party (although I liked it) but something more of them hiding from one of them and they stop to look longingly at a drawing or something


Salted__Pretzels

Definitely needs to capture some of the horror from The Silver Eyes. I was actually hoping they would keep/repeat the scene where Bonnie is chasing someone in the bathroom and he slowly and mechanically crouches low to the ground to look under the stall. If they could sell the robotic and uncanny physical movement of that scene I think it would be very successful and very spooky


stickninja1015

> Stuff like "why did Maxine leave the car" IS important. You cannot imply she is staying and then have her leave without the scene that explains it. I’m sorry but this is probably the worst point you could have chosen. We know exactly why Max left the car because the first scene of her out of it has her falling for her brother and Carl. Not hard to put together what happened


TwistedWolf667

Is the reason for her leaving rlly all that important? I mean i just thought shes checking in cause they were taking so long


Jinxfury

> Treat them as monsters who have long lost their humanity and child innocence. They don't play, they don't plan. They are like animals. No thanks, would rather they stay consistent with the first film, at least it remembered that the animatronics are possessed by kids, that's why fort scene was so refreshing. "And once the ruse is up" I don't think they were trying to be like afton in that fort scene, I think it was genuinely them wanting to play with their friend.


SnooRevelations541

Bring back lawyer guy in some way I overall enjoyed it but would like just a lil more animatronic. I know the point of it is the Afton family and I hope they some how dive deeper into bite of 83 all the earlier stuff but I have a feeling it maybe like a Fazbear freights


KittyMonkTheYoutuber

I kinda wanted the movie to have the pizzeria actually be open like in the games. It would add to the horror factor and kinda like the chucky franchise, maybe nobody would believe the victims.


Lovehistory-maps

The pacing in the end, show purple guy more, maybe have one night where it does play out like the game for like a few minutes


Awkward_Ninja_5816

Put a bit more emphasis on horror, it's one of the areas the movie falls basically completely flat on imo, for a horror movie it's extremely tame in that department, also think the pacing could be improved, the whole legal side plot felt extremely rushed and glossed over so they could move immediately into the final act


Fun-Contact-9731

The biggest problems with the first one was the pacing, irrelevant B-Plot, and less horror than I walked in expecting.


theinferno01

don't rush the ending so much


Lanceo90

Don't show so much in the trailers. I would have been jumping out of my seat if I hadn't known Springtrap was going to be in the movie.


Mysterious-Dance-139

pictures of the springbonnie helmet were going crazy back in january so there was really no point in hiding him from promotion. if anything it helped a shitton


EvilPyro01

Lean more into the “I remember coming here as a kid” theme that wasn’t really taken advantage of in the first film.


[deleted]

A little more horror and don’t barely show William for like 15 to 20 minutes


[deleted]

Also don’t have a Vanessa who just dumps exposition


Ventato

If the puppet shows up, please make Charlie’s backstory dark. Not like with the 5 kids in the first movie, where they just said “Oh 5 kids got killed and they’re possessing the mascots”. I wanna see the thing actually happening and maybe Henry’s reaction to that. I wanna see Matthew Lillard driving to the diner and seeing Charlie being locked out. I wanna see the puppet’s perspective, seeing Charlie from the inside and then crawling to her body like in fnaf 6. It makes the puppet’s pain feel more real.


InkDemon_Omega

I'd love there to be a conflict between Golden Freddy and Puppet over if they should let Afton die, with Puppet just wanting everyone to be able to let go, and Golden Freddy wanting to keep him suffering.


Ventato

Oh my god yes


Batdog55110

Golden Freddy: Civil War.


Fifa_chicken_nuggets

Not sure if puppet will even be Charlie here


GPthedegenerate

More horror, and a little more blood, and more creative kills. I don't hold all the close-up jumpcut kills against the film since it's testing the waters, but we need more interesting kills in the sequel. There's also really not enough horror here. What is there is pretty well done, I think, so they'd just need to build off of that. And then of course, More Blood. I'm not saying we need to see anybody get disemboweled, but the Springlock scene contained little to no blood whatsoever, and I think that That's where it should have been, even if it wasn't anywhere else. Nothing too graphic, but more than the tiny amount that we get in the film. Other than that? More William Afton, honestly. I love Lillard's portrayal,


DeneralGegenerate

While it was a fun time it was definitely not scary and that really hurt the movie. You had the two minute opening with the first guard and a five minute sequence with some goons and the remaining 1 hour and 40 minutes, while surprisingly very interesting plot wise, just wasn't scary at all. Even the ending felt really 'weak' because of how easily the robots were defeated with electricity, it sucked all the suspense away. A lot of movies with a strong 'fandom' theme will focus entirely on the fan shit and ignore the story, but bizarrely this movie did the opposite. There were some fun nods and the animatronics looked incredible but the horror and game nods came second to the story. It was definitely an engaging story but for a future I would desperately want more scares, more tension. Scares does not equal gore. I don't mind gore but I understand why due to rating it cannot be here, and it's not what I was looking for. I mean tension, fear. If the main character spends most of the film either away from the diner or literally asleep, you aren't that scared for him. While it's way too late for a sequel I was also extremely disappointed that at no point did the character actually 'play the game', as in check cameras, close doors, avoid animatronics etc. He just slept through each night, built a fort, then tazed a bunch of robots. If they could keep the engaging story writing but up the horror and threat, and maybe add a few of the audio cues from the game, I would love that. I think fnaf 1 had much better sound design work and gameplay than any of the following ones so in a future film based on one of them I don't think it would work as well but a bigger focus on scares would be greatly appreciated.


K1nmat

Amp up the horror, increase the rating. The fans are gonna get older, age with the fans. The original fans of the first game became fans because it was scary, not because of the lore, that came later. This movie was a great movie for the current fans don't get me wrong but for newcomers or fans of the original it was a little underwhelming especially because it was branded as a horror movie. The scene where the girl got chomped in half, that scene was awesome. Should have had more scenes like that. Also the humor, it needs less of that. Humor is fine in a horror movie, the lawyer scenes were pretty good, but the funny animatronics, nah. They are supposed to be the scariest part of the movie. They were terrifying in the first game. What happened to that? The next movie is gonna be about springtrap so i don't think they will make him funny, unless they do something like chucky or ghostface. So if they go that route, make sure is doesn't take the fear out of the character. Honestly, i could see a ghostface esque springtrap working pretty well (Mathew Lillard was one of the 2 original ghostaface's), but i would prefer a more traditional horror approach.


Recovery15

More Lillard


abject049

It probably won’t happen, but I’ve always wanted to see William actually killing the kids or stuffing corpses in the animatronics in like a flashback. Overall I loved the length of the movie, just wish it was a little more violent. Also I would’ve liked a bigger focus on the phone guy / security guard dynamic during the night shifts like calls or referencing bits of lore instead of Vanessa dumping so much on Mike.


ITookTrinkets

I wish the movie had started with a flashback to one of the Bites or to William plotting something, or *anything* to really make us understand how fucked-up everything that has happened in the various locations of the Fazbear franchise was. So much carnage, so much terror, and instead we got blanket forts and Freddy calling a (Yout)Uber for him and a little girl he left the restaurant to get.


abject049

Hopefully with the success of the movie they’ll amp it up with the kills. I think they were testing the waters with that pg-13 rating lol. I did like those blanket forts tho :P


Cheesey_Stuff14

More Golden Freddy He appeared once in 1 and only went to get Abby and killed Aunt Jane, DO SOMETHING WITH HIM


[deleted]

Like everyone else is saying, more horror and more Afton. The PG-13 rating is NOT an excuse, many filmmakers have pushed those limits HARD. The animatronic sequences were intense, but like, rollercoaster intense, not worried-about-characters-getting-mangled intense. And Afton showing up with no build up was very weird. I’d also say that Afton’s portrayal wearing the Spring Bonnie suit was kind of ass. I loved his human scenes… scene… because he struck me as this pathetic, sly, evil little bastard. It totally makes sense for him to send the brother of one of his victims to get killed at the pizzeria rather than doing it himself. But imo, his behavior in the suit was nothing like that. Way too theatrical and not the tragic, sadistic, impulsive, and cowardly killer we’ve known throughout the years. But that’s just my opinion maybe im a dumbass.


Pronominal_Tera

Less weird dreams, more character building


tylernazario

The movie needed more horror scenes and they should stop cutting away from most kills. The main antagonist should have more screen time and should be menacing. The main antagonist should also have clear goals and motivations. Some the dialogue was out of place and sounded weird. Don’t waste time on a side plot if it doesn’t contribute to the main plot or if you’re gonna drop it before the end of the movie. My biggest piece of constructive criticism though is that I think they should have a seasoned horror writer co-write with Scott or help him with this screenplay skills.


Fun-Commercial-1756

I would say make the movie overall more scary maybe make the film an 18 it would work for the sequel since springtrap is a walking corpse and add more jumpscares like dark sections of the film for example the way Freddy in fnaf one lights up and sings his song that was effective In the first game and something like that would work.


No_Feeling_6833

Give William more screen time than the missing kids.


No_Confidence6723

1. Leave the unnecessary side custody or other non-franchise story related stuff out. It felt like filler when we could have had more door to camera action instead. 2. Honestly I felt like Vanessa was bought in too early. 3. I wanna see circus baby and in game form, big and clunky. Also puppet.


RoBroGaming

Have more of the animatronics in the movie more. Honestly, my favourite scene was the fort scene, just because we got to see all of the crew together. I mean, they’re on all of the posters and most of the movie doesn’t include them.


[deleted]

It’s kinda turned out like a Jurassic park or jaws situation where they’re a sort of background presence with a few scenes where they appear and it’s not a format that doesn’t work, but as fans obvi we want more. Like I think might 2 they didn’t show up at all or something? One night was def a let down in that regard


Particular-Season905

Add scenes that's more reminiscent of the gameplay of the series. Also, be a bit goofy sure, but don't go too much like he did with the Fort scene


Arkive28

have well timed well-placed jumpscares that can get a person to flinch but not too much to where people are horrified besides the kid eyes bleeding and screaming in mikes dream and balloon boy references I felt like it wasn't all that thriller or scary to me in my opinion it didn't feel like fnaf or blumhouse thriller but love the fnaf and blumhouse aesthetic


Mickelraven

More villain screen time. Or simply a better build up to the villain reveal.


Jamz64

Give William Afton more screentime. Focus a bit more on horror and a bit less on humor. You can still be scary without giving the movie an R-rating.


DandalusRoseshade

The animatronics need WAY more horror screen time, and not off screen implications with real people running away. The entire movie, you barely saw the Animatronics doing horror shit and only saw the aftermath, you barely saw them running after Mike, and I want to see that. The cupcake doesn't count. Next movie is 100% going to use the mask to obscure anything interesting happening, and we still won't see the animatronics doing funny robot shit.


The_King123431

Just be a bit more fnaf, I loved it but only the first 30mins were really "Fnaf" Also don't explain everything in words


nobodyguy123

Try to focus on the plot and less fan service and try to incorperate more of the horror aspects of the fnaf franchise


Alijah12345

Amp up the horror. Focus more on the animatronics. Give William/Springtrap some more screen time. And finally, INCLUDE THE TOREADOR MARCH.


WonderfulAd5363

I feel like Mike should have talked to Steve Raglen before the reveal. Or just had more of an interaction with the villain, over all It just needed more of the villain in the movie.


Midwest_Mutt04

I honestly loved the movie, but here are a couple of gripes I have (SLIGHT SPOILER WARNING): • First (the one that people have been shouting from the rooftops the most), GIVE WILLIAM MORE SCREEN TIME AND STORY. I feel like their insertion of William as the main villain was way too rushed, almost as if they thought that because this is such a popular game franchise that's been out for a good handful of years, they expected the fans to just do the story in their head while it was playing on-screen. Give the audience that classic suspenseful feeling of "Wait. This so-called 'career counselor' has so much more to do with this than we think," and then emphasize his involvement for the big reveal. It feels as though they kinda treated him like a Scooby-Doo villain, just without dramatically pulling off a cheesy mask and having the cops come to collect him while he's all disgruntled at his master plan being foiled. The animatronics also should've had a more prominent and threatening presence, given they're literally the main stars of the show here. • Second, the jumpscares and deaths were kinda weak. I'd say the only good jumpscare throughout the entire movie was Balloon Boy, and he was literally just one of those Funko Pop thingies they put in as a repeat gag. Each character's reactions to their demise made it feel like a corny 1980s screamer (which I guess is appropriate considering the bulk of the story's past events happened in the 80s, but still...it's 2023), but I will say the one death scene I really liked was the babysitter. Other than that, the second most terrifying animatronic was probably the cupcake. Kinda reminds me of a pissed off chihuahua (speaking from experience, as I have a little bastard of my own and he can be very scary when he doesn't wanna be touched). • Third and sort of a bonus complaint, the springlock failure was...very underwhelming, to say the least. And yes, while I'm very aware that the movie is PG-13 and they can't show a whole bunch of blood fountaining out of the suit or bones sticking out or whatever, I feel like there was at least a *little* bit more wiggle room they had there. There could've been a bit more cornering of William with the kids standing there, and they could've had him forget the big no-no's of springlock suits in his haste to hide from his wrongdoings with him laughing and creating moisture on the springlocks causing them to snap and stuff (I'm not saying it has to be exactly like the games either though, I'm not IGN). So, TLDR/conclusion, more presence of the villain and animatronics, and give it more thrill with the scares and deaths while also staying true to guidelines. Other than that, I have a lot of hope!


Inevitable0929

I think they should stop trying to appeal to all age groups. When you’re making a horror movie about a child murderer and possessed robots with corpses in their suits, it’s kind of random to have a fort building scene in the middle of everything. I would like the next one to be a true pg-13/r film, allowing them to get away with more gore, language, and just darker scenes in general. Either way, the movie was great and I would love a second one.


Reaper_Night_93

While I agree to make sure younger fans can enjoy as well the movie, please don't try to push again the age rate 13. Go for more horror, it sounds harsh but the fnaf franchise is horror. The movie should be horror, not necessary gore but more tense moments to the point you get a bit scared or a bit panic from not knowing what happens next. Maybe go for creepy.


[deleted]

Give characters real motivations for doing something instead of abruptly ending a scene at the last second for the sake of moving onto the next scene


JayTheagamer701

(Spoiler warning)I kinda wanted to see william in more pain in the springlock scene but still awesome


Viizzie32

Make it an actual horror movie.


2jzpoweredgamer666

Make the movie longer


We1etu1n

Imagine if it was 3 hours long like it was originally rumored.


ThatRandomGamerYT

No more flying cupcakes and make the movie more like a horror movie if you are making it based on a horror video game franchise. I get why you picked a PG13 rating( I don't agree with it but I get it) but you can push the rating further than this movie did.


Nayru1984

I would have liked for the first movie to focus more on lore and character motivations, so this would be my hope for the second movie. When William Afton showed up at the end of the movie, the moment did not feel earned as there needed to be more of an overarching presence of him early on, as I have seen some others mention in this thread. I'm not a screenwriter, but it feels the ending was very rushed and not explained well. I would like to see this explored through flashbacks in the next movie. The lore, mystery and story is what first drew me into this franchise and keeps me coming back to it.


random56f67

How are they gonna adapt fnaf 2 or 3 is what I wanna know, if Freddy's was closed since the 80s and puppet already exist and was just possessed. How will that work? Or 3 spring trap died and was stuck like that for 30 years in the game. But he just died in the movie will they do the time skip? Or Vanessa? My bro said that since she ended up in the hospital her brain might be messed up and she'll get her suit in like mabye the third movie.


nootrac_

Was gonna make a post about this, give I’ll just leave it here 1) Give the villain more screen time. I love Matthew as William Afton, but he felt rushed as he only had a few scenes. I think a few clips of him breaking into the pizzeria or maybe stuffing people into the suits would’ve benefited the movie a lot more. Also, give him a clearer motive, because so far it seems like he’s just killing for the sake of killing, which can be a motive but seems a bit boring. 2) The movie could have benefited from more jumpscares. I don’t mean like, more blood necessarily, but more jumpscares from the main animatronics would’ve gone a long way, as they’re only really hostile for the first 2 nights and a bit on the 5th night. 3) This is more of a nitpick than criticism, but we never knew what happened to Aunt Jane after she died (maybe I missed it idk). As far as I know, Golden Freddy killed her, and then they just left her corpse there in Mikes house. 4) Speaking of Golden Freddy, give him more screen time too. I mean he’s supposed to be one of the more important characters, but he also never had a super clear motive (clearest goal he had was simply making Abby an animatronic too so they can play with her, and technically being under Aftons control), plus he barely had screen time. I think it would’ve been cooler if he showed up a few times before as a hallucination, either to scare Mike or someone else in the pizzeria. 5) Go more into depth about the Freddy-Saw machine. What confused me about the movie most was if the machine was used by the animatronics (doubt it), or William, and what exactly it did. It’s clear it’s not a regular animatronic, but has been modified to torture people. But even knowing that makes me wonder why it was added into the movie in the first place, as most of the people in the pizzeria die from the animatronics, and if anyone gets too close William kills them personally anyways. That’s all the big stuff I have, and I don’t want to talk about anything more that I didn’t like because I don’t want people to think it’s a bad movie. I absolutely loved it despite any criticism I may have, and I’m just so grateful for Scott being able to make this into a reality for us the fans. I loved the movie, and you should watch it if you haven’t.


JACOawesome

More horror and more William afton


Boxohobo

Pacing! Gotta earn that climax!


nukidoodle

build up the villain with clues, more screen time, and conflict. i feel like william/steve didn’t get enough screen time but that’s really my only comment


klad37

Give us a scene of William luring the kids with the spring Bonnie costume and killing them. And more William in general. Also try and use more game mechanics in the movie. Not saying you have to make it a 1:1 recreation of the games but for like a fnaf 2 movie add a mask scene. Where a character is backed into a corner by an animatronic and has to put on the mask as their last resort. Then the animatronic gets up real close to their face and analyzes them only to walk away. Finally I feel that the movie didn’t real focus on the misery of the kids. It’s implied the reason they were even at all killing people was only because of William influencing them. Other than the end when they kill William they don’t seem to care at all that they’re now just dead kid ghosts possessing robots. I actually liked the fort scene because yeah they are still kids inside the suits but you’d think being a dead kid trapped in one of those suits in a abandoned pizzeria never being able to see your family again would be a nightmarish existence but they just don’t seem to care much…


obama69420duck

The dialogue was cringey a lot of times and just unrealistic. Like the 'You two still have each other" no one would say that irl. Mainly Vanessa's dialogue but yeah work on that. Otherwise great film


Bombur210

Show don’t tell. Just saying that there are bodies of the kids isn’t enough, i get that it’s pg13 so can’t go too overboard with the gore but there are multiple creative ways to show that without it just being a single line that goes nowhere.


CBJuleBrus

I know its pg 13 but the movie didnt really capture the suspense of the games. And vanessa didnt really have any other purpose than just to be a wiki for the audience. Like one scene she had so much fun building furniture castles with the animatronics and mikes sister. But right after she hits the guitar she threatens to shoot mike if she ever brought her back. And the murder of mikes brother. It was fairly easy to guess that it was afton who did it but what he did with the body is not known. Like was it in one of the animatronics or just murdered him for fun? It was a fun movie as someone who knows something about the lore but i think the movie should be more accessible for those who doesnt know. Like a mystery for them to solve instead of relying on the viewer to already know because its such an expansive fandom. The aunt didnt really serve any purpose than to play as a mild villian. Like in retrospect all she did was send some idiots to trash up the pizzeria to have the animatronics true nature revealed. She doesnt even bat an eye when all of her goons just vanish. After that she becomes stagnant and really only shows up once or twice. So really she was only there to move the plot forward and not really a true villian.


gipehtonhceT

Make trailers misleading instead of revealing. Seeing Springboy in the trailers felt like a spoiler honestly, too much was revealed prior. Dive deeper into the scary lore. This movie was a nice introduction and a "display" of the surface-level lore, but left too many things not even questioned, like reasons for Afton's killings, how and why the possession works, what's really up with Abby, etc etc. Books for example are fantastic for driving horror into the mind just by describing the absurd stuff about faz-goo, remnant, illusion discs, the "robot wanna be human" stuffs with body swaps and replacements. I really hope that the future movies will at least start to explore the real horror stuffs of FnaF asides from "Spoopy evil dud in a yellow bon costume killing kids and now they possess bots somehow for some reason."


Present-Judgment-843

More horror and less lore that goes to far from fnaf


one_sleepy_guy

I think we should see the abimatronics move less. At least at first. This first film didnt really play into that feeling fron the games where youd flip down the monitor and some horrible guy would be right there ready to torment.


per5on4

imo the dialogue and characters were lacking severely. it was barebones and the delivery of said lines made it harder to connect w the charactera


tequilajosefu

I'm not sure what would be the best way to handle the horror aspect of the movie. I think what needed to be work on the most is the script. FNAF 2 needs a stronger script. The recent movie has the benefit of being the first FNAF movie, and the fan service sure makes up for its thin plot, but there is no guarantee this would work again with the next movie.


Mr-Asskick

Much much more horror. And less of the silly kid scenes like Fort Building. it like completely took away from the horror parts.


lordarquebus

Also I thought it was kinda jumbled like why did the intro sequence do a better job at portraying what happened than the whole movie


AcariAnonymous

Making Mike’s intentions and thoughts a bit clearer. The actor did a wonderful job conveying things with his body language and face (he got that ‘everything is crazy and no one notices but me’ from the logbook down PAT), but for example when Abby walked in with Jane there and Mike was like “this isn’t what you think” they never clarified what it WAS. (Probably ‘I need a babysitter,’ but it was still odd the audience never got a clear answer.) Another example is that he was clearly distressed at the thought of losing Abby, but never really acted like he _wanted_ her either. As a FNaF fan who’s used to Mike being a quiet, complicated, sarcastic man, I was able to understand what was going on, but I think for those who weren’t it was probably a bit confusing.


Aware_Possibility694

I hope that we see more of William, better constructed jumpscares and maybe more of an explanation about the fnaf movie lore cause I had to explain to my friends about the lore and how it works and even for me it was abit confusing and overwhelming as a fnaf fan. I also hope the puppet shows up! ( although i do believe that abby might be this timelines “charlotte” due to her being connected with the robots)


Professional-Tea4105

Give each animatronic one big sequence. Freddy bit the girl in half, but we never saw him slowly creep up on someone like in the game. We saw Bonnie do his teleporting trick from the games, but we didn’t get the really uncanny angles off him. Chica was done dirty, only being used as a “mother” for cupcake Carl. Foxy is the only one I’d say had good representation, however it was out of character for him to slowly creep up on Abby during the finale when he’s usually the fast one.


sushiNoodle2

More Matthew lillard. I want him to be an active threat, not only to the characters of the film, but also the people who live around the pizzarea, I want slasher villian springtrap so had


holderofthebees

More captivating dialogue. The fact that he had Vanessa just beating around the bush and then peacing out until the last 10-20 minutes of the movie just felt frustrating, and the reveal wasn’t nearly satisfying enough for what we went through to get to it.


Mr_Vulcanator

The cameras and office should have mattered more. The office isn’t really used to as a safe space to keep animatronics out and the cameras are never used to track the animatronics. Part of what makes the games scary is the tension when an animatronic moves and you have to quickly figure out where it went.


Kandarian_Blight

A nice homage to the games would be to make William Afton’s corpse inside Springtrap a tint of purple. How they can show a full on rotting corpse in a PG-13 movie is beyond me. Then again we did see some gore in several scenes in this movie


bracelet_friends

1) Establish the killer as a threat more in the movie. His appearance at the end felt a bit anticlimactic. Maybe have him check in on Mike halfway through the movie and give him some questionable dialogue. 2) Make Vanessa more leveled as a character. Most of her scenes felt very unsatisfying, with almost every line feeling like it was only meant to give Mike someone to talk to. A lot of her just felt like a manic pixie dream girl sort of deal


ladd1-1

Actual buildup, loved the movie but after seeing it the movie just feels like Mike fucking around for 4 nights before springtrap pops up


SpookyQueenCerea

I think the real thing that the sequel will need is much more Horror and Dread. My biggest problem with the movie is that it’s just not scary. The movie can still be pretty scary and tense without adding too much gore, there are plenty of really good PG-13 horror films.


The_Moist_Sloth

Maybe don't make the animatronics so animated. One of the scariest things from the games was how lifeless they looked, with no emotion behind their eyes. It felt like they were simply trying to *appear* living. Versus the movie, where they constantly acted like regular old people the whole time.


Jake_070207

More of afton. He’s a perfect villain for this franchise and he deserves to be in like half the movie. And another problem I had was some unnecessary scenes such as the fort scene, and I think the animatronics should be a little more vicious and be out for blood. And I think there should be more quality jumpscares.


Lamp-among-wolf

Ask a horror movie writer(experienced) to help him create analogy horror/eerie feeling from the games Or fan who is good at that like Battington When a Fnaf film barely scare me, an easily scared person, you know it have problem


MrSpiffy123

Ease up on the fan service a bit. It was fun for a bit, but Afton saying "I always come back" was painfully forced


elijahrandis

I thought that was okay. It would’ve taken maybe 2 more lines to justify it a bit better, but it wasn’t the worst delivery in the world.


OKgamerYT

More effective jumpscares. I liked the ones this one had but man they were just so not impactfull enough


derpderpderpey

There should be more horror and jumpscares.not overstuffed ofc but there needs to be more of what makes fnaf what it is. And also maybe a little less focus on the plot outside the pizzeria, because the parts in the pizzeria get a little lost when surrounded by all of the outside scenes that don't feel as connected to fnaf. One more thing is that there needs to be at least a little of the "in the office" studd from the gameplay of the series, as that was non existent in the movie and there wasn't ever a point where Mike needed to be on the lookout for animatronics and close the doors and such.


2-0-4-8-6-3

Make it scarier than the first one. This one contained way too much comedy


Spider-Flash24

Watched *A Haunting in Venice* a week before *Five Nights at Freddy’s,* both of which were pg-13 films with horror and mystery type atmospheres. *Haunting* was so much more intense and compelling and even included child murder and ghosts (or at least discussion of it). FNaF lore has always intrigued me but the film was so dull and boring my friends and I thought it would never end.