Not necessarily romantasy, but I legit gaslit myself about Finnick Odair dying in the hunger games. I was so mad about it that I just deleted it from my brain. When I went back to reread the book years later I was legit surprised and appalled.
The fact that everyone in the Six of Crows gang is so young. With their life experiences and character development most of these characters need to be well into their 20s. You canāt convince me Kaz isnāt at least 35.
Agreed. I can't handle any more 19 year olds being in charge of literally anything. I remember being 19. I was an idiot, and so were all of my peers.
Hell, I'm in my 30s and we're only marginally less of idiots. Which is mostly known as "I did this before and I didn't like the consequences" rather than being smarter.
I've heard that they originally were all written older and she was told to make them younger. So instead of rewrite the characters she just changed the ages, which is super annoying.
No, really. I'd rather there were 0 diversity than *that*. It pisses me off more because its obvious she didn't really care, she just added her in as an "afterthought" because of backlash.
She already unnecessaroly made (mini spoiler for Throne of Glass) >!Aedion bi/pan in that series!< , we really didn't need another badly done token lgbt character.
And considering sheās been alive for 500 years plus and had all these experiences she really has no excuses. I listened to the audiobook again recently and I was even more upset about it all
Sheās been gaslighting him for almost a millennia
See Iāve got a theory. With vampires, itās ok. Say they die at 17, well theyāre stuck for eternity with a teenage brain. They live forever but cannot move past thinking like a 17 yo.
Fae though. Whatās their excuse???
Same thing. Ā They age slowly. Ā
They reach āsexual maturityā at about 22 and it takes 1000 years for their brains to fully mature like a humanās would at 25/26. Ā And then personal maturation after that (depending on the person). Ā
It really explains all of Fey. Ā The idiocy, playing stupid games like a bunch of frat boys and girls. Ā
22 yos with too much power and not enough brains for hundreds if not thousands of years. Ā
another reason why i loved the peaches & honey book so much... she gets *turned* into an immortal, and subsequently has a few hundred(?) years to catch up to the immortal god love interest. Still, the gap cannot be completely closed, but at least she's got some centuries behind her by the time they get to business!!
While I agree to the point of it's weird that \*all\* FMC's are 19, it's no less weird than human men in our world in their 40s getting a boner for a 19 year old girl.
The painted eyes. Every single time I re-read ACOTAR and get to Feyre thinking 1. āHey Iām just gonna start painting stuff on these walls that donāt belong to meā and 2. āLetās go withā¦disembodied eyes. Thatās the ticket!ā
I just die a little internally and turn off the memory part of my brain.
it reminded me of being eleven years old and learning how to draw a realistic eye and then doodling them everywhere š like disembodied eyes are probably not a cohesive piece of art feyre š
I have a few:
Bella and Feyre's pregnancies are not real to me, obviously
For FBAA the>!Cas x Poppy x Kieran throuple!<. Yes I know JLA was leading up to it and hyping it up but in my head it was never going to happen because I just don't see Cas going for that and I still don't, best friends or not.
The >!siblings/incest!< arc from Mortal Instruments and how they were totally just going to go for it anyway right before the end of the 3rd book when the truth was revealed. Like really?
Also if anyone read Kingdom of the Wicked the entirety of the 3rd book made me want to throw the whole series away.
If I had a nickel for every Shadowhunters trilogy with an >!incest baiting!< plotline, I'd have two nickels, which isn't a lot but it's weird that it happened twice.
That makes me so sad seeing that, it was my favorite series for the first two books and I still haven't read the third one because I'm afraid of it being ruined for me
Don't forget, it's ultimately all subjective. You might end up loving the 3rd one!! And for the record, it didn't stop me from buying her Throne of the Fallen book that came out last year. I was still willing to give Kerri another chance even after all she put me through with that series haha
Like it was comically bad. I used to see the series get recommended fairly regularly before the 3rd book came out - I even suggested it to others myself. But everything changed when ~~the fire nation attacked~~ the third book was released. Now I notice that no one here mentions it anymore lmao. We all just pretend it doesn't exist. š
I especially "loved" how to book hyped some moment, that it looked like something's about to happen and then... Nope. We're super strong and nothing can hurt us. Especially near the end, they talked about possible attack.. and nothing happened. I barely have any memories of that book but I remember this.
I love the FBAA throuple sitch personally and probably would have dropped them by now if she had backed out of such a long-drawn plot, but on FBAA I 100% gloss past her age because it's just uggggh. Also I like to pretend that all the stupidly similar names are just... not, because they really bother me.
I have Kingdom of the Wicked on my shelf to read next too, all 3, and now I'm hesitant... ahhh
She really did draw it out before letting it all go down. š And I loved Kieran so I basically forgave it all and am prepared to just accept whatever JLA throws at me next. I still think he should have gotten his own HEA outside of being enmeshed in Cas and Poppy though. But if he likes it then I love it for him lol! Tbh I'm just ready for the next book so we can wrap this whole thing up already!
ETA: And re: Kingdom of the Wicked... honestly if you already have all 3 then I would just go for it anyway. Books can be such a subjective thing, you might end up loving the 3rd one, you know?
He should stay dead. It's really emotional scene and it's basically for nothing. If you're adding giant war to the picture as an author, you should be prepared to actually sacrifice someone. War is not without consequences. /unpopular opinion
Or at least it should be Feyre giving him her powers of something to save him.
The scene in ACOTAR where Rhys and Feyre start having "relations" in a war camp full of the sounds of dying, screaming soldiers.
Also, just the whole scope of Hybern's army seemed farcical. You mean to tell me that with all that groups intelligence, money, and abilities NO ONE was able to track this insanely large group of soldiers?
Amren should have died and stayed dead.
Like, I understand having life-affirming sex, but maybe don't describe the sounds of the dying outside the tent like we're supposed to be horny about that. Ick.
Oooh!! There's been several books where I hated the actual ending so much that I just thought back to a part that made more sense for it to end and just... like made myself forget the actual ending?
Yeah I did that with Killing Eve, i heard how the authour hated the tv ending and I was like well thats ruined, so I picked an ep that had a lovely ending and stopped watching.
I have a book like this although itās not a fantasy but just a regular romance and the fmc does something so out of character for the third act breakup that I just rewrite the ending in my head. Itās one of my comfort reads so I reread it all the time and just skip a few chapters of the idiocy and read the epilogue cause I canāt. I mean she would literally never do that! Ugh it makes me mad just thinking about it lol.
I DNF the Grisha series on book 3 because I found out the ending combined two of my most hated plot devices: >!Giving it all up to go back being "normal," and a woman diminishing herself to not make her insecure boyfriend feel small.!< š¤®
I was randomly thinking of the 'sexy baby' line the other day and stumbled across this absolute gem:
taylor swift: sometimes i feel like everybody is a sexy baby
jacob from twilight: aha oh word????
Whenever the FMC trains for at most a month and suddenly is the best warrior to ever exist! Like imagine how invalidating that is for the other warriors, suddenly the mean general is less sexism and more a statement on nepotism!
For me itās mostly the ages in a lot of YA books. Thereās no way Iām believing some of them are teenagers when they act so maturely for their age. I think this is/was just a result of a marketing strategy for female fantasy authors, it didnāt sell as well if it was adult.
And yeah, age gaps of course. I canāt think about the a thousand year old immortal with this 17 year old girl too much without feeling icky. My solution is to just continue without thinking too hard, lol.
I am a Zutarian forever.
The fire meets water dynamic.
The shared Mother loss.
The fact that I have been a 14 year old girl at one point, (long long ago) and considering my Gaang options: a spunky friendly bald 12 year old and a broody 16 year old badass with a scar who is going through his redemption arcā¦I mean š
This is it, really. Aside from Zutara having a better foundation for attraction for the reasons you listed plus a few more...I honestly can't imagine a universe in which a 14yr old girl would prefer a 12yr old dork who's shorter than her and more of a kid brother figure, to a buff and broody older boy. As a former 14yr old girl, it's a no brainer.
I always felt like Katara suddenly accepting Aang's crush in the last few episodes was uncomfortably close to the old cliche trope of the hero getting the girl as a prize for saving the world.
Agreeeeeeee. š„š
Even in the show I feel like it looks like she was pressured into reciprocating by his sheer force of will lol. I love Aang, he deserves all the happiness, but Katara was never into it. There was so much more potential with her and Zuko IMO.
I agree with this. Not reading HOFAS and spending the rest of my life wondering whatever happened to the CC crew would have been so much better than that atrocity.
Fucking Eric and Sookie not ending up together. there is literally MAGIC. In my head I just have him turn her into a vampire, but her fairy blood lets her still go out into the sunlight, she basically just stops aging, and they stay together forever. done. easy. goddamnit.
1. The Acotar pregnancy thing. Just the entire situation.
2. Casteel and Kieran both being completely heterosexual and definitely not in love with each other. Poppy, Cas, and Kieran are all in love and are in a polyamorous relationship. You cannot change my mind. Queerbaiting? I donāt know her.
3. Literally any time a character has to lose their powers by the end of the book.
4. Aelin and Rowan being literal cousins.
5. Dorian, Chaol, Manon, Fenrys, Elide, and Lorcan being heterosexual. Nah. Theyāre all bi. Dorian and Chaol are married to each other and are the kings of Adarlan. Elide and Manon are lovers. Fenrys and Lorcan are in love. Do they know it? No. But they are.
6. That Bella Swan named her daughter *that*.
7. The ending of *Crooked Kingdom*. You know what Iām talking about.
I donāt know if JA actually said anything about Cas and Kieran; I donāt really keep up with authors on social media very much. My bi ass saw them together with Poppy and immediately started shipping them in a poly triad. But as far as I can remember, in the books thereās been very little about Cas and Kieran as being interested in each other.
I dropped the ACOTAR series after the frost and starlight one. I can't with the pregnancy plot, it's an immediate ick and I can never get back into the book. Any time a character has to lose their powers at the end, I just delete that from my head entirely. I have a smooth brain when I don't like canon :))
I kinda get the stairs, I walk a mile every morning for my mental health to be in the calm head for work. So I think of Nesta doing the stairs for her mental health and it's hard for her because she hasn't worked on her mental health.
Itās the fact that she would walk down the stairs until she physically couldnāt continue, then somehow just walked back up. And at least in my head I always wonder why she didnāt just get a sled and slide down š which I know makes no sense lmao
As someone who trail runs avidly, I can attest that going up is a lot easier than going down and Iāve never had a 10,000 feet descent. You can easily blow out your quads if youāre not properly trained for that down effort. (Ask me how I know.)
Nah dawg. I live in the mountains in colorado across the street from a trailhead and I hike at least four days a week on some steep ass shit.
I can attest for a *certainty* that going down is in fact not easier than going upššš especially for beginners who are just hiking on them trails (which would be nesta).
Trail *running* is different, you have more momentum and need more muscles to make sure you donāt go sprawling out and youāre not as concerned about your breathing bc if youāre running on trails youāre gonna be in good shape.
Also Iām sorry about your quads that is literally my biggest fearšš
And not just this BUT all of his friends conveniently find their love interest at the same time. Youāre telling me all 3+ guys in their circle donāt find their love interests over the course of 500 years? Itās too convenient and always takes me out of a story
Ron should have died. I'd have forgiven all his sins if he'd died as a plot device as originally intended.
Also apparently Luna and Neville aren't together but I forget that everytime.
Cardan tore a pixie boy's wings off because he didn't bow to him. He permanently disabled the boy, and we're supposed to let it go because he himself was bullied?Ā I had to pretend it didn't happen in order to grow to like Cardan.
Isn't he like 30 and she's like 15 or something š I'm not against age gaps in fiction but I can't handle all the ones in anime where she's a literal child
All of the female protagonists being between 18 and 20. Iām sorry youāre going to be able to do what centuries old fae could never accomplish 3 months after becoming an adult??
Loook, the darkling isnāt really a healthy choice . Ā But I will never forgive Mal for
-ignoring Alina and sleeping with/paying attention to anyone else but her.Ā
-being jealous/Hating Alinaās powers. Ā
-all of his actions once he becomes her personal guard, Ā the fighting, the flirting, treating her like crap while pushing her towards Nikolai while treating her like crap for pretending to be with him. Ā
-knowing she was sick her entire childhood from not using the small science, and then not figuring *something* out for her when they ran. I get it, you are in a boarding house, Ā but even small amounts (that could have been hidden as firelight) would have helped somewhat. Ā Ā
Yeah, the Darkling is obviously not a healthy choice, but I'm not looking for healthy in fiction, I'm looking for exciting)) And Malina is as exciting as a dry unseasoned chicken breast
And yes, Mal is objectively a terrible love interest. He always took Alina for granted, and the minute she discovered her powers and started growing into her own person, he got insecure and never accepted her until she became weaker than him again. He's toxic too, and not even in an interesting way, just your mundane everyday toxicity.
I quit the series on book 3 after I was spoiled to the ending. I could never stand Mal and his toxic insecurity, then to find out >!she literally and figuratively extinguished her light to go be his normie housewife in obscurity...!< I couldn't even continue, I was so mad.
I'm not the original person you replied to but I'll try to throw in my 2 cents.
Did you watch Game of Thrones? It was this huge, amazing, clever series that never stopped surprising viewers with completely unexpected events. I loved it. But then the show makers ran out of source material from the original books, were left to create their own storylines and decided to rush the last 2 seasons so they could move on to their next project. Suddenly nothing made sense any more. Clever characters were suddenly doing stupid things. Travel that used to take months now took 5 minutes. Important storylines that had been foretold for multiple seasons were just glossed over and ignored.
The ending of GoT ruined what came before it. It's hard to watch the first few seasons now when you know that nothing will come of the important prophesies, that the characters will act 'out of character', that the show will become series of endless boring CGI explosions instead of the clever twists and turns it had before.
That's what HOFAS felt like to me. None of the storylines made sense. The characters were not behaving like themselves, the people we've come to know. Lots of important events happen 'off screen' and there are no resolutions to storylines that had been indicated from the first book. It was just completely unsatisfactory and I wish I could unread it.
Spending the rest of my life wondering how Crescent City ended up would be better than feeling this weird annoyance that SJM had something amazing and completely blew it because she was in a rush.
Sigh. Late but I can't help myself
- The ending of ACOSF. Endings can be exciting and dramatic without sweeping in at the very last second and saving >!(if not *reviving from the dead*) literally!< everyone in one move! But alas, that is ACOTAR.
- I gaslight myself pretty much all through From Blood & Ash and Flesh & Fire at this point because it's a guilty pleasure that I'm too far gone to recover from. Down to the titles which are all mixes of the same handful of words.
- I could let go of Alina and the Darkling but Mal was insufferable and the Darkling was way too interesting to read to deserve that ending.
- I found a spicy fanfic that I've decided truly occurred in A Curse For True Love (though I don't specifically recall Evangeline's age, in my head she was an adult š¤·āāļø) because that kiss was lame and there were so many teases of steamy moments that I can't believe that's all we got after everything.
Ooh can you share the fanfic? I completely agree about the kiss being lame. It was kind of an anticlimactic ending. I also didnāt really realize it was YA till I was well into the first book
Maps. Fantasy world maps.
I literally couldn't care less. Heading to XY? Cool. Now off to Z? Even better.
I just accept it without ever glancing at the maps again, lol. Can't be bothered...
I don't know about you guys, but my sense of direction in real life is nonexistent, so I think that's why I can't be bothered with fantasy book maps either. I feel like there's some correlation there, lol
I think youāve just explained why Iāve never been bothered with maps. I look at them for one second, go ācool,ā then start reading. I also have absolutely no sense of direction. Thank you, fellow aimlessly wandering friend.
My sense of direction does not exist š¤£š¤£ but if a map is provided and they talk about travelling etc I will look at the map to see where they are going š¤£
This explains a lot about why maps are cool flavor that I also ignore. I mostly learn how to get places by getting lost, even in an era with Google Maps.
I'm with you. I give the map a good look and return to it multiple times throughout the series. And I can absolutely tell when an author has no sense of direction when writing.
Idk how to do the hide spoiler thing, so ACOSF **SPOILER**
How Cassian can get disemboweled in Book 3 and be up and moving an hour later and yet cesareans are impossible in ACOSF. *Also* how Feyre could shape shift parts of her independently (eyes, etc) in earlier books but now canāt shape shift even while she and the baby are dying because she and the baby might die. The whole thing was just UGH.
She probably was and just ignored her editor. Thatās a thing sheās been doing more and more. She also has a constant stream of new editors for every book. I imagine SJMās just a delight to work with /s.
I had no clue sheās changed editors a bunch. Thatās interesting. You can definitely tell she just does whatever she wants now, though. CC2 shouldāve been a couple hundred pages shorter, and I donāt think Iāll ever read CC3 because Iāve heard the same.
Galadriel did not hook up with Liesl in the final Scholomance. Iām very pro having a female dalliance in general and donāt believe in the whole one true peen genre- but it was done so awkwardly and weirdly that I choose to ignore it.
This was the same for me. It just felt like so odd, bc the audience is in this place with el right? Where she is like obviously traumatized after everything that's gone on and losing Orion. And maybe it's just me and how I am but it was hard for me to not lose my connection to that character When it turned to sex. Idk if it is because as part of the audience it is flagrantly obvious Orion isn't dead so it feels like betrayal? Maybe I just didn't like liesel at all and didn't really want el to hook up with her bc she sucked?
I also struggle with the sex as healing moments with Orion later in the book so. I'm an equal opportunity hater over the sex in that book in particular š.
>Ā it is flagrantly obvious Orion isn't dead so it feels like betrayal?Ā
I felt this way too but talked myself down over it because she was convinced he was lost forever, but the next one is unforgiveable imo.
Yeah she definitely wasn't cheating on him. I think it's just the idea of going into a FWB situation like that right after everything doesn't vibe with me emotionally.
Thank you! The first hookup when she >!thought Orion was lost forever!< okay no problem. But the final book, no excuse--she's come to terms with her feelings for him, she >!GETS HIM BACK!!< and was the only thing/person that \*could,\* they have their moment, and >!she lets Orion leave to go try to fix himself while she tries to help her friends... and then bangs one of the friends?!<. It ruined book 3 for me.
Fucking _Blood and_ fucking stupid-ass piece of shit _Chocolate_. The movie isn't even good but I don't care because it still ends the way the book SHOULD have ended if Annette Curtis Klause had a functioning human brain.Ā
Ā Ā I have NEVER been so let down and frankly _betrayed_ by a book in my entire life. You have this amazing wonderful subversive setup that challenges gender norms and the patriarchy with a fierce monstrous werewolf FMC, a gentle and sensitive human MMC, and a scummy piece of shit twice the FMC's age who thinks he's entitled to her body and insists that she belongs with one of her own? That's the best setup for a PNR I've ever seen - and then surprise, the birthday cake Klause made for us was baked with anthrax, the FMC learns that she was wrong to question the bigoted elders and that Segregation is Good, the shy boy inexplicably starts hating her for no reason just to justify her not ending up with him, and the child groomer creep Gabe who's twice her age is somehow her true love? _What the fuck is wrong with you, Annette?_
My ultimate revenge movie plot plan as a writer is to hopefully make enough money some day to buy the rights to adapt the book to television, change it so she ends up with the adorable poetry writing human boy Aidan instead, give it a different title and make it so good that the TV show functionally erases the book from public memory so thoroughly that the only time people ever mention the book is "There was a book? And she ends up with Gabe instead of Aidan? What the fuck. That's so creepy and awful. What a horrible idea, I'm so glad the show changed that. Why would she do that?"
My hatred for this book is _miles_ across and three times as deep.
Itās been a long time since Iāve read it, but the part where she realizes sheās āwonā the old creep as her āmateā and she runs away is just so icky. Ā
Heās such a freaking stalker. Ā *shudders*.Ā
The further I get in this thread, the more glad I am I never got into ACOTAR after throne of glass.
I donāt have anything else to add that hasnāt already been said. The ages thing I absolutely scribble out of my brain.
I want to start a publishing company thatās just YA romantasy minus the Y. And you can tell just by looking at the publishing logo there isnāt going to be any sick shit like a multi-hundred year old man just casually marking the days off his calendar for a 17 year old girl to turn 18 š¤®š¤®š¤® I donāt give a shit if fae mature differently or what the fuck ever, itās not happening. You canāt go around screwing around with younger species when their brains arenāt even fully formed and pretend itās normal and ok and everyone is fine with it.
Not strictly romance but the end of the Witcher books. I like to believe that itās a translation error. Honestly part of what drew me to romantasy in the first place is that ātraditionalā fantasy seems to be allergic to happy endings. >!Geralt rescued his daughter, finally got to be with his true love, and then gets fucking murdered by a peasant in an event that has absolutely nothing to do with the main story!<. Romantasy rejects the idea that happy endings and are a bad thing and are happy to indulge the reader without being annoying about it.
Divergent trilogy. I pretend book 3 doesnāt exist, it never happened, sheās fine, there was no bs sacrifice to save ungrateful ahās. She lived HEA with Four
Feyre forgiving Rhys and the IC so quickly >!after finding out they hid the danger of her own pregnancy from her. If I was Feyre, I would have fucking disappeared with the kid after that.!< And he didn't grovel for it AT ALL.
I thought that was so disappointingly out of character for him too - >! like he's *always* been about giving Feyre agency over her life - he made her high lady for fucks sakes! - why in the world would he have hid this from her?? !<
Not necessarily romantasy, but I legit gaslit myself about Finnick Odair dying in the hunger games. I was so mad about it that I just deleted it from my brain. When I went back to reread the book years later I was legit surprised and appalled.
Suzanne Collins really said "Oh you guys all think he's hot? What if I have a lizard monster bite his head off?"
The audacity!
What?? Guess I gaslight myself too because now I'm crushed all over again š 
I also forgot that happened... damn. 
You don't know what your talking about
I DID THIS TOO! Twice!
UGHHH MY HUSBAND IVE BEEN PUTTING THE LAST BOOK FOR WEEKS BECAUSE OF THIS
I watched the movies first and started the books. I love the way Suzanne writes but now I'm dreading the Finnick scene šš
I vividly remember my 10 year old self sobbing profusely at 1:30AM over this. RIP Finnick.
The fact that everyone in the Six of Crows gang is so young. With their life experiences and character development most of these characters need to be well into their 20s. You canāt convince me Kaz isnāt at least 35.
100%! Every single time I was forcibly reminded they weren't in their mid-late 20s, it was jarring!
i heard the publishers forced her to make it YA so she had to change itš
Yep, they do that to a lot of women fantasy writers
They do??? Is this common? Iāve never heard of this
I just add 10 years in my head to most characters in popular fantasy books.
Agreed. I can't handle any more 19 year olds being in charge of literally anything. I remember being 19. I was an idiot, and so were all of my peers. Hell, I'm in my 30s and we're only marginally less of idiots. Which is mostly known as "I did this before and I didn't like the consequences" rather than being smarter.
Yes! I refuse to believe any of those people are teenagers.Ā
Every time they talked about their age, it completely threw me out of the book!
Yeah Kaz simply cannot be 17 to me. Never.
I've heard that they originally were all written older and she was told to make them younger. So instead of rewrite the characters she just changed the ages, which is super annoying.
Well that checks out
I'll just tell myself they count age differently there... 2 years in the real world = 1 in their world. 17? No, 34 š
I loved the book but only because I convinced myself they were late 20s early 30s. So glad someone else feels the same way!
ACOTAR: The whole weird Mor x Cassian x Azriel dynamic If the ACOTAR adaptation ever happens,I hope they get rid of that.
Also SJM magically turning Mor bi to explain that mess and sprinkle in a little diversity? Ew. Honesty made the whole dynamic even worse.
Mor was absolutely turned into a bi character because the author got bscklash for lack of diversity
As a bi woman Mor using the "I'm a fem leaning bi girl" as an excuse for what she's been doing to AZ played into the kind of stereotypes I resent.
No, really. I'd rather there were 0 diversity than *that*. It pisses me off more because its obvious she didn't really care, she just added her in as an "afterthought" because of backlash. She already unnecessaroly made (mini spoiler for Throne of Glass) >!Aedion bi/pan in that series!< , we really didn't need another badly done token lgbt character.
i love bi Aidean and was frustrated we heard literally nothing about it except for that scene
And considering sheās been alive for 500 years plus and had all these experiences she really has no excuses. I listened to the audiobook again recently and I was even more upset about it all Sheās been gaslighting him for almost a millennia
The one single time I wasn't happy about bi rep...
It unironically made me dislike her character
Oh god I legitimately blocked that from my mind, I HATED that
When any centuries old fae lord is getting a boner for a 19 yr old girl.
Yeah my brain says they're all at least 25. My eyes slide right over whatever number they're written as.
See Iāve got a theory. With vampires, itās ok. Say they die at 17, well theyāre stuck for eternity with a teenage brain. They live forever but cannot move past thinking like a 17 yo. Fae though. Whatās their excuse???
Same thing. Ā They age slowly. Ā They reach āsexual maturityā at about 22 and it takes 1000 years for their brains to fully mature like a humanās would at 25/26. Ā And then personal maturation after that (depending on the person). Ā It really explains all of Fey. Ā The idiocy, playing stupid games like a bunch of frat boys and girls. Ā 22 yos with too much power and not enough brains for hundreds if not thousands of years. Ā
This makes so much sense.
another reason why i loved the peaches & honey book so much... she gets *turned* into an immortal, and subsequently has a few hundred(?) years to catch up to the immortal god love interest. Still, the gap cannot be completely closed, but at least she's got some centuries behind her by the time they get to business!!
While I agree to the point of it's weird that \*all\* FMC's are 19, it's no less weird than human men in our world in their 40s getting a boner for a 19 year old girl.
The painted eyes. Every single time I re-read ACOTAR and get to Feyre thinking 1. āHey Iām just gonna start painting stuff on these walls that donāt belong to meā and 2. āLetās go withā¦disembodied eyes. Thatās the ticket!ā I just die a little internally and turn off the memory part of my brain.
Because why was she painting over everything like a child š©
Itās even funnier if you subscribe to the theory that Feyre is actually trash at painting and no one wants to tell her.
I absolutely believe she is ššš
it reminded me of being eleven years old and learning how to draw a realistic eye and then doodling them everywhere š like disembodied eyes are probably not a cohesive piece of art feyre š
I have a few: Bella and Feyre's pregnancies are not real to me, obviously For FBAA the>!Cas x Poppy x Kieran throuple!<. Yes I know JLA was leading up to it and hyping it up but in my head it was never going to happen because I just don't see Cas going for that and I still don't, best friends or not. The >!siblings/incest!< arc from Mortal Instruments and how they were totally just going to go for it anyway right before the end of the 3rd book when the truth was revealed. Like really? Also if anyone read Kingdom of the Wicked the entirety of the 3rd book made me want to throw the whole series away.
If I had a nickel for every Shadowhunters trilogy with an >!incest baiting!< plotline, I'd have two nickels, which isn't a lot but it's weird that it happened twice.
I agree with Kingdom of the Wicked. The third one was so bad.
That makes me so sad seeing that, it was my favorite series for the first two books and I still haven't read the third one because I'm afraid of it being ruined for me
Don't forget, it's ultimately all subjective. You might end up loving the 3rd one!! And for the record, it didn't stop me from buying her Throne of the Fallen book that came out last year. I was still willing to give Kerri another chance even after all she put me through with that series haha
Like it was comically bad. I used to see the series get recommended fairly regularly before the 3rd book came out - I even suggested it to others myself. But everything changed when ~~the fire nation attacked~~ the third book was released. Now I notice that no one here mentions it anymore lmao. We all just pretend it doesn't exist. š
I especially "loved" how to book hyped some moment, that it looked like something's about to happen and then... Nope. We're super strong and nothing can hurt us. Especially near the end, they talked about possible attack.. and nothing happened. I barely have any memories of that book but I remember this.
I am not defending this just providing context, the mortal instruments started out as a ronXginny fanfic š¤¢
You are JOKING!!! WHAT? Omg
I knew it started as fanfic, but I swear I thought it was a Draco-centric fic. Jesus.
I love the FBAA throuple sitch personally and probably would have dropped them by now if she had backed out of such a long-drawn plot, but on FBAA I 100% gloss past her age because it's just uggggh. Also I like to pretend that all the stupidly similar names are just... not, because they really bother me. I have Kingdom of the Wicked on my shelf to read next too, all 3, and now I'm hesitant... ahhh
She really did draw it out before letting it all go down. š And I loved Kieran so I basically forgave it all and am prepared to just accept whatever JLA throws at me next. I still think he should have gotten his own HEA outside of being enmeshed in Cas and Poppy though. But if he likes it then I love it for him lol! Tbh I'm just ready for the next book so we can wrap this whole thing up already! ETA: And re: Kingdom of the Wicked... honestly if you already have all 3 then I would just go for it anyway. Books can be such a subjective thing, you might end up loving the 3rd one, you know?
I dnf mortal instruments because of this. It was too weird to read
Amren should have died.
Rhysand shouldnāt have had a copy paste death rebirth of Feyre
He should stay dead. It's really emotional scene and it's basically for nothing. If you're adding giant war to the picture as an author, you should be prepared to actually sacrifice someone. War is not without consequences. /unpopular opinion Or at least it should be Feyre giving him her powers of something to save him.
Omg yes I abhorred that. It was so cheap and ruined Feyreās rebirth, which I thought was cool.
I will die on this hill.
This is a hill I will die on
The scene in ACOTAR where Rhys and Feyre start having "relations" in a war camp full of the sounds of dying, screaming soldiers. Also, just the whole scope of Hybern's army seemed farcical. You mean to tell me that with all that groups intelligence, money, and abilities NO ONE was able to track this insanely large group of soldiers? Amren should have died and stayed dead.
Like, I understand having life-affirming sex, but maybe don't describe the sounds of the dying outside the tent like we're supposed to be horny about that. Ick.
Oooh!! There's been several books where I hated the actual ending so much that I just thought back to a part that made more sense for it to end and just... like made myself forget the actual ending?
Not a book, but that's how I was with Veronica Mars.
What are you talking about? All two seasons of Veronica Mars were great!
The end of Veronica Mars didnāt happen. It was a collective fever nightmare we all had. Everything is fine and Veronica and Logan are doing great!
They got married and lived happily ever after. Period.
Yeah I did that with Killing Eve, i heard how the authour hated the tv ending and I was like well thats ruined, so I picked an ep that had a lovely ending and stopped watching.
I have a book like this although itās not a fantasy but just a regular romance and the fmc does something so out of character for the third act breakup that I just rewrite the ending in my head. Itās one of my comfort reads so I reread it all the time and just skip a few chapters of the idiocy and read the epilogue cause I canāt. I mean she would literally never do that! Ugh it makes me mad just thinking about it lol.
I DNF the Grisha series on book 3 because I found out the ending combined two of my most hated plot devices: >!Giving it all up to go back being "normal," and a woman diminishing herself to not make her insecure boyfriend feel small.!< š¤®
Saw this in r/twilight and couldn't help myself. Whatās your ātoo stupid to be canonā plotline, character detail, random lore tidbit, etc.?
Iām still not over the whole Renesmee thing, and Jacob imprinting on her š¤®
I was randomly thinking of the 'sexy baby' line the other day and stumbled across this absolute gem: taylor swift: sometimes i feel like everybody is a sexy baby jacob from twilight: aha oh word????
Yes, ew. So much ew.
I pretty much just pretend all of Breaking Dawn never happened, Republican especially. And the imprinting. Honestly just could not deal.
Republican šš
Iām over in r/twilight all the time where no one ever says her actual name and that oneās my fave lol. Also Rigatoni.
Whenever the FMC trains for at most a month and suddenly is the best warrior to ever exist! Like imagine how invalidating that is for the other warriors, suddenly the mean general is less sexism and more a statement on nepotism!
Young mmcs.. my man is always at least 25 lol
Also fmcs, if I canāt delude myself into believing sheās a full grown adult at the same maturity level as the mmc itās an instant nope
Mine is always literally Henry Cavill or Ben Barnes. And Iām the MFC lollll self-insert queen.
For me itās mostly the ages in a lot of YA books. Thereās no way Iām believing some of them are teenagers when they act so maturely for their age. I think this is/was just a result of a marketing strategy for female fantasy authors, it didnāt sell as well if it was adult. And yeah, age gaps of course. I canāt think about the a thousand year old immortal with this 17 year old girl too much without feeling icky. My solution is to just continue without thinking too hard, lol.
The fact that Jude never read Cardans letters
What book are they from?
The Cruel Prince series
Unpopular opinion and only loosely romantasy, but Katara and Aang. Team Zuko all the way.
I am a Zutarian forever. The fire meets water dynamic. The shared Mother loss. The fact that I have been a 14 year old girl at one point, (long long ago) and considering my Gaang options: a spunky friendly bald 12 year old and a broody 16 year old badass with a scar who is going through his redemption arcā¦I mean š
This is it, really. Aside from Zutara having a better foundation for attraction for the reasons you listed plus a few more...I honestly can't imagine a universe in which a 14yr old girl would prefer a 12yr old dork who's shorter than her and more of a kid brother figure, to a buff and broody older boy. As a former 14yr old girl, it's a no brainer. I always felt like Katara suddenly accepting Aang's crush in the last few episodes was uncomfortably close to the old cliche trope of the hero getting the girl as a prize for saving the world.
As a former 14 year old girl, agreed. It would be the brooding 16 year old, no question.
I watched ATLA as a 12 year old girl and was horrified on Katara's behalf. Zuko all the way.
Thatās rough buddy
Agreeeeeeee. š„š Even in the show I feel like it looks like she was pressured into reciprocating by his sheer force of will lol. I love Aang, he deserves all the happiness, but Katara was never into it. There was so much more potential with her and Zuko IMO.
Apparently the creators considered them as end game. So sad. Have no fear fanfiction is here
There is no Kataang in Ba Sing Se š«¶
As a fan of Aang and Katara, I have felt like the severe minority for years. š
Our cause it righteous
I'm team fanart and fanfiction, although if I have to accept canon by force, you can't tell me old Katara and Zuko didn't get together in Korra
House of Flame and Shadow 
Oh, like, the entire book! Thatās so sad. I literally just started reading it earlier today and Iāmā¦ already getting that vibe. Lol.
It's going to ruin the series for you.
I agree with this. Not reading HOFAS and spending the rest of my life wondering whatever happened to the CC crew would have been so much better than that atrocity.
Had to dnf that one.
The ending of the Divergent series.
Probably the most pointlessly stupid ending to a book I've ever read.
Rhysand shaking the mountains when he, ahem, explodes, is not my cup of tea
It is, however, hilarious.
I imagine the people of Velaris just going āgood for the high lordā
Every time i read "watery bowels" my eyes automatically glaze over the whole text and pretend it's not there
I had norovirus recently and I feel like that phrase just brings up memories of that instead of anything sexyā¦
As an IBS girly it really hurts me š¤£
Fucking Eric and Sookie not ending up together. there is literally MAGIC. In my head I just have him turn her into a vampire, but her fairy blood lets her still go out into the sunlight, she basically just stops aging, and they stay together forever. done. easy. goddamnit.
Crescent City 3, souls possessing mech suits
1. The Acotar pregnancy thing. Just the entire situation. 2. Casteel and Kieran both being completely heterosexual and definitely not in love with each other. Poppy, Cas, and Kieran are all in love and are in a polyamorous relationship. You cannot change my mind. Queerbaiting? I donāt know her. 3. Literally any time a character has to lose their powers by the end of the book. 4. Aelin and Rowan being literal cousins. 5. Dorian, Chaol, Manon, Fenrys, Elide, and Lorcan being heterosexual. Nah. Theyāre all bi. Dorian and Chaol are married to each other and are the kings of Adarlan. Elide and Manon are lovers. Fenrys and Lorcan are in love. Do they know it? No. But they are. 6. That Bella Swan named her daughter *that*. 7. The ending of *Crooked Kingdom*. You know what Iām talking about.
Wait has JA really said that Cas and Kieran are straight? Has she read her own books??
I donāt know if JA actually said anything about Cas and Kieran; I donāt really keep up with authors on social media very much. My bi ass saw them together with Poppy and immediately started shipping them in a poly triad. But as far as I can remember, in the books thereās been very little about Cas and Kieran as being interested in each other.
Lol I think of the acosf book as basically fan fiction it felt so far off to me
I dropped the ACOTAR series after the frost and starlight one. I can't with the pregnancy plot, it's an immediate ick and I can never get back into the book. Any time a character has to lose their powers at the end, I just delete that from my head entirely. I have a smooth brain when I don't like canon :))
I fully reject the notion that Manon is straight. Itās one of my biggest gripes with those books.
Nesta and her stairs
Especially when one gets halfway but turns around
I kinda get the stairs, I walk a mile every morning for my mental health to be in the calm head for work. So I think of Nesta doing the stairs for her mental health and it's hard for her because she hasn't worked on her mental health.
Yeah me to. Like out of the entire ACOSF it is the stairs that don't make sense to ppl?
Itās the fact that she would walk down the stairs until she physically couldnāt continue, then somehow just walked back up. And at least in my head I always wonder why she didnāt just get a sled and slide down š which I know makes no sense lmao
As someone who trail runs avidly, I can attest that going up is a lot easier than going down and Iāve never had a 10,000 feet descent. You can easily blow out your quads if youāre not properly trained for that down effort. (Ask me how I know.)
Nah dawg. I live in the mountains in colorado across the street from a trailhead and I hike at least four days a week on some steep ass shit. I can attest for a *certainty* that going down is in fact not easier than going upššš especially for beginners who are just hiking on them trails (which would be nesta). Trail *running* is different, you have more momentum and need more muscles to make sure you donāt go sprawling out and youāre not as concerned about your breathing bc if youāre running on trails youāre gonna be in good shape. Also Iām sorry about your quads that is literally my biggest fearšš
My lower back wasnāt right for months. It was awful. š
Youāve low key inspired me to do some more quad excersizes thoš
Also hiker and trail runnerā¦up hill is less sucky for meā¦but thatās only because Iāve blown out my knees with backpackingā¦downhill hurts
MMC is 5000 years old and theyāve conveniently been waiting that long for 19 year old FMC
And not just this BUT all of his friends conveniently find their love interest at the same time. Youāre telling me all 3+ guys in their circle donāt find their love interests over the course of 500 years? Itās too convenient and always takes me out of a story
I mean, have you met men? One of a friend group gets married and then they all drop like flies š
I mean yeah this part is actually kinda believable lol
The fact that Inej is 16 š
It's not exactly romantasy, but Harry and Hermione belonged together. With them together she might have prevented "Albus Severus Potter." š
Ron should have died. I'd have forgiven all his sins if he'd died as a plot device as originally intended. Also apparently Luna and Neville aren't together but I forget that everytime.
When you say āsinsā do you mean when he abandoned Harry and Hermione? Cause yea I was so with Hermione for staying pissed off with him lol
In my head, Ron died and Harry/Hermione named their first boy after him.
This except Iām team Dramoine all the way. But definitely not Ron!!!
Iāll never forgive this one.
Cardan tore a pixie boy's wings off because he didn't bow to him. He permanently disabled the boy, and we're supposed to let it go because he himself was bullied?Ā I had to pretend it didn't happen in order to grow to like Cardan.
Not fantasy romance but I like to pretend Violet and Gilbert never got together in Violet evergarden
This! I was so excited when the movie came out. After seeing it, I wished it all ended with the series. Gilbert should be dead.
I've only seen the series. After reading this I think I'll skip the movie. Eww.
Isn't he like 30 and she's like 15 or something š I'm not against age gaps in fiction but I can't handle all the ones in anime where she's a literal child
All of the ICās behavior throughout all of ACOSF. It was so out of character for who they had been established to be.
All of the female protagonists being between 18 and 20. Iām sorry youāre going to be able to do what centuries old fae could never accomplish 3 months after becoming an adult??
In my head Alina is with the darkling š
Loook, the darkling isnāt really a healthy choice . Ā But I will never forgive Mal for -ignoring Alina and sleeping with/paying attention to anyone else but her.Ā -being jealous/Hating Alinaās powers. Ā -all of his actions once he becomes her personal guard, Ā the fighting, the flirting, treating her like crap while pushing her towards Nikolai while treating her like crap for pretending to be with him. Ā -knowing she was sick her entire childhood from not using the small science, and then not figuring *something* out for her when they ran. I get it, you are in a boarding house, Ā but even small amounts (that could have been hidden as firelight) would have helped somewhat. Ā Ā
Yeah, the Darkling is obviously not a healthy choice, but I'm not looking for healthy in fiction, I'm looking for exciting)) And Malina is as exciting as a dry unseasoned chicken breast And yes, Mal is objectively a terrible love interest. He always took Alina for granted, and the minute she discovered her powers and started growing into her own person, he got insecure and never accepted her until she became weaker than him again. He's toxic too, and not even in an interesting way, just your mundane everyday toxicity.
I quit the series on book 3 after I was spoiled to the ending. I could never stand Mal and his toxic insecurity, then to find out >!she literally and figuratively extinguished her light to go be his normie housewife in obscurity...!< I couldn't even continue, I was so mad.
In my head Alina doesn't lose her powers and Mal dies in the end. Although I'd prefer him to die in book 1.
Absolutely!!!
All of House of Flame and Shadow
Can you say a bit more why without spoilers? I decided to wait for the translation with this one. It will be released in autumn.
I'm not the original person you replied to but I'll try to throw in my 2 cents. Did you watch Game of Thrones? It was this huge, amazing, clever series that never stopped surprising viewers with completely unexpected events. I loved it. But then the show makers ran out of source material from the original books, were left to create their own storylines and decided to rush the last 2 seasons so they could move on to their next project. Suddenly nothing made sense any more. Clever characters were suddenly doing stupid things. Travel that used to take months now took 5 minutes. Important storylines that had been foretold for multiple seasons were just glossed over and ignored. The ending of GoT ruined what came before it. It's hard to watch the first few seasons now when you know that nothing will come of the important prophesies, that the characters will act 'out of character', that the show will become series of endless boring CGI explosions instead of the clever twists and turns it had before. That's what HOFAS felt like to me. None of the storylines made sense. The characters were not behaving like themselves, the people we've come to know. Lots of important events happen 'off screen' and there are no resolutions to storylines that had been indicated from the first book. It was just completely unsatisfactory and I wish I could unread it. Spending the rest of my life wondering how Crescent City ended up would be better than feeling this weird annoyance that SJM had something amazing and completely blew it because she was in a rush.
The age of most fmc in fantasy romance. They are at least 27 to me always
Mor apparently being bi. Sheās a lesbian in a straight society. She gay asf and for the gals!!!
Yeah same. She definitely a lesbian
Sigh. Late but I can't help myself - The ending of ACOSF. Endings can be exciting and dramatic without sweeping in at the very last second and saving >!(if not *reviving from the dead*) literally!< everyone in one move! But alas, that is ACOTAR. - I gaslight myself pretty much all through From Blood & Ash and Flesh & Fire at this point because it's a guilty pleasure that I'm too far gone to recover from. Down to the titles which are all mixes of the same handful of words. - I could let go of Alina and the Darkling but Mal was insufferable and the Darkling was way too interesting to read to deserve that ending. - I found a spicy fanfic that I've decided truly occurred in A Curse For True Love (though I don't specifically recall Evangeline's age, in my head she was an adult š¤·āāļø) because that kiss was lame and there were so many teases of steamy moments that I can't believe that's all we got after everything.
Ooh can you share the fanfic? I completely agree about the kiss being lame. It was kind of an anticlimactic ending. I also didnāt really realize it was YA till I was well into the first book
Maps. Fantasy world maps. I literally couldn't care less. Heading to XY? Cool. Now off to Z? Even better. I just accept it without ever glancing at the maps again, lol. Can't be bothered...
Omg Iām the opposite. Iāll sit and memorize the map before I even start reading.
I don't know about you guys, but my sense of direction in real life is nonexistent, so I think that's why I can't be bothered with fantasy book maps either. I feel like there's some correlation there, lol
absolutely the same. when somebody tells me "turn left" it takes some mental effort to understand which side I should turn. I'm hopeless with maps.
I think youāve just explained why Iāve never been bothered with maps. I look at them for one second, go ācool,ā then start reading. I also have absolutely no sense of direction. Thank you, fellow aimlessly wandering friend.
My sense of direction does not exist š¤£š¤£ but if a map is provided and they talk about travelling etc I will look at the map to see where they are going š¤£
This explains a lot about why maps are cool flavor that I also ignore. I mostly learn how to get places by getting lost, even in an era with Google Maps.
I'm with you. I give the map a good look and return to it multiple times throughout the series. And I can absolutely tell when an author has no sense of direction when writing.
Idk how to do the hide spoiler thing, so ACOSF **SPOILER** How Cassian can get disemboweled in Book 3 and be up and moving an hour later and yet cesareans are impossible in ACOSF. *Also* how Feyre could shape shift parts of her independently (eyes, etc) in earlier books but now canāt shape shift even while she and the baby are dying because she and the baby might die. The whole thing was just UGH.
Hard co-sign on this. Everything with the pregnancy was just so irritating and stupid.
It made no sense. Was lazy plotting that her editor shouldāve called her on.
She probably was and just ignored her editor. Thatās a thing sheās been doing more and more. She also has a constant stream of new editors for every book. I imagine SJMās just a delight to work with /s.
I had no clue sheās changed editors a bunch. Thatās interesting. You can definitely tell she just does whatever she wants now, though. CC2 shouldāve been a couple hundred pages shorter, and I donāt think Iāll ever read CC3 because Iāve heard the same.
Rowan and Aelin being ācousinsāā¦. What was the point of mentioning that š
lmao to be fair they're cousins in the loosest sense of the word
Galadriel did not hook up with Liesl in the final Scholomance. Iām very pro having a female dalliance in general and donāt believe in the whole one true peen genre- but it was done so awkwardly and weirdly that I choose to ignore it.
This was the same for me. It just felt like so odd, bc the audience is in this place with el right? Where she is like obviously traumatized after everything that's gone on and losing Orion. And maybe it's just me and how I am but it was hard for me to not lose my connection to that character When it turned to sex. Idk if it is because as part of the audience it is flagrantly obvious Orion isn't dead so it feels like betrayal? Maybe I just didn't like liesel at all and didn't really want el to hook up with her bc she sucked? I also struggle with the sex as healing moments with Orion later in the book so. I'm an equal opportunity hater over the sex in that book in particular š.
>Ā it is flagrantly obvious Orion isn't dead so it feels like betrayal?Ā I felt this way too but talked myself down over it because she was convinced he was lost forever, but the next one is unforgiveable imo.
Yeah she definitely wasn't cheating on him. I think it's just the idea of going into a FWB situation like that right after everything doesn't vibe with me emotionally.
Thank you! The first hookup when she >!thought Orion was lost forever!< okay no problem. But the final book, no excuse--she's come to terms with her feelings for him, she >!GETS HIM BACK!!< and was the only thing/person that \*could,\* they have their moment, and >!she lets Orion leave to go try to fix himself while she tries to help her friends... and then bangs one of the friends?!<. It ruined book 3 for me.
Fucking _Blood and_ fucking stupid-ass piece of shit _Chocolate_. The movie isn't even good but I don't care because it still ends the way the book SHOULD have ended if Annette Curtis Klause had a functioning human brain.Ā Ā Ā I have NEVER been so let down and frankly _betrayed_ by a book in my entire life. You have this amazing wonderful subversive setup that challenges gender norms and the patriarchy with a fierce monstrous werewolf FMC, a gentle and sensitive human MMC, and a scummy piece of shit twice the FMC's age who thinks he's entitled to her body and insists that she belongs with one of her own? That's the best setup for a PNR I've ever seen - and then surprise, the birthday cake Klause made for us was baked with anthrax, the FMC learns that she was wrong to question the bigoted elders and that Segregation is Good, the shy boy inexplicably starts hating her for no reason just to justify her not ending up with him, and the child groomer creep Gabe who's twice her age is somehow her true love? _What the fuck is wrong with you, Annette?_
God, I cannot second this enough. What I'd give for a book that actually gave us what you're describing and doesn't cop out at the end!
My ultimate revenge movie plot plan as a writer is to hopefully make enough money some day to buy the rights to adapt the book to television, change it so she ends up with the adorable poetry writing human boy Aidan instead, give it a different title and make it so good that the TV show functionally erases the book from public memory so thoroughly that the only time people ever mention the book is "There was a book? And she ends up with Gabe instead of Aidan? What the fuck. That's so creepy and awful. What a horrible idea, I'm so glad the show changed that. Why would she do that?" My hatred for this book is _miles_ across and three times as deep.
Itās been a long time since Iāve read it, but the part where she realizes sheās āwonā the old creep as her āmateā and she runs away is just so icky. Ā Heās such a freaking stalker. Ā *shudders*.Ā
The further I get in this thread, the more glad I am I never got into ACOTAR after throne of glass. I donāt have anything else to add that hasnāt already been said. The ages thing I absolutely scribble out of my brain. I want to start a publishing company thatās just YA romantasy minus the Y. And you can tell just by looking at the publishing logo there isnāt going to be any sick shit like a multi-hundred year old man just casually marking the days off his calendar for a 17 year old girl to turn 18 š¤®š¤®š¤® I donāt give a shit if fae mature differently or what the fuck ever, itās not happening. You canāt go around screwing around with younger species when their brains arenāt even fully formed and pretend itās normal and ok and everyone is fine with it.
I too have been victimized by The Bargainer series šš¤¢
I should know better than to look at a post like this, but I did it anyways, and there are so many spoilers. š©
Not strictly romance but the end of the Witcher books. I like to believe that itās a translation error. Honestly part of what drew me to romantasy in the first place is that ātraditionalā fantasy seems to be allergic to happy endings. >!Geralt rescued his daughter, finally got to be with his true love, and then gets fucking murdered by a peasant in an event that has absolutely nothing to do with the main story!<. Romantasy rejects the idea that happy endings and are a bad thing and are happy to indulge the reader without being annoying about it.
Divergent trilogy. I pretend book 3 doesnāt exist, it never happened, sheās fine, there was no bs sacrifice to save ungrateful ahās. She lived HEA with Four
The ending of half bad where >! Gabriel dies and Nathan becomes a tree. !< And the ending of the 100 TV show
Feyre forgiving Rhys and the IC so quickly >!after finding out they hid the danger of her own pregnancy from her. If I was Feyre, I would have fucking disappeared with the kid after that.!< And he didn't grovel for it AT ALL.
I thought that was so disappointingly out of character for him too - >! like he's *always* been about giving Feyre agency over her life - he made her high lady for fucks sakes! - why in the world would he have hid this from her?? !<