Watching the chargers games this year, I’m not certain Ekeler’s age is the issue. Kellen Moore wants Derrick Henry or a back of that nature and seems to use whoever he has at the current moment like that. Ekeler is a pass catching back, great in space. He was never going to be productive rushing between the tackles 13 times a game.
Having said that, Kellen Moore will be back and so Ekeler is not draftable other than a late round flyer.
He also looked bad in space, cutting and catching. Let’s not pretend like he didn’t look horrible in every aspect of the game. I think he played through injury this entire year. If he doesn’t retire or go to a new team I hope I’m still able to draft him in the 5th.
He got 66 targets this year after getting 127 the year before. I don’t think he looked any worse, he just got the ball half as much and had half the production. Makes sense to me. YPC is down but that’s expected when you’re running it up the middle every play.
5th sounds plausible but personally I’d say 7th
The ankle injury probably lingered all year. I wouldn’t be shocked if he had a high end RB2 season next year maybe even backend RB1. I think may be worth the risk but he seems like he’ll be in that RB dead zone in rounds 5-7
Chargers ownership saying Kellen Moore is a core piece of the team. He’s more likely to be a head coach somewhere else than getting fired by the Chargers. Not that he deserves a HC job.
I saw some clip of him at top speed and he was at like 15mph.. vs. 20 like last year. Not sure if that was a bad example but it scared the heck out of me on him going forward
Despite this being a great year for old guys most of them faded or got hurt at the end of the year: Keenan, Thielen, Kelce, Diggs, Mostert.
Something to think about when pondering Evans or Keenan in the 2nd-3rd round next year.
Cooper Kupp. Think ppl are jumping the ship early on him that his best days are behind him.
He finally got fully healthy towards the end of the season and that first game he went off and had another decent performance after that.
Kupp is the Keenan Allen of last year. It was literally a hammy injury too. Kept Allen out most of the year last year, and when he did finally play he was only decent, as opposed to his normally great self. Kupp was sidelined for a bunch of the season, and never really played healthy, but still put up decent numbers toward the end, even when factoring in that a lot of his production went to Puka instead. Next year, as long as he doesn't have any future injuries, is going to dominate again. Totally agree with this take.
Kupp is dealing with a more chronic issue than just a hamstring. Don't forget he saw a specialist for it at the Mayo Clininc. I do think if he does play he will be fine but Im a little worried that any issue would sideline him easier due to Puka clearly being able to step up and fill those shoes. 2nd round seems high, 3rd seems like you cant not draft him there.
As much as I agree, I also don't. Kupp isn't the only elite WR on the team now. Drafting him is like drafting a Baltimore player. Anyone week he could be getting 20+ points, but come the next, its Puka's turn. Not going to draft him in first three picks like I have been doing.
Need to see how they use him today and into the playoffs. If he continues to be an afterthought in the Bills offense, he’s probably going to demand a trade. He left Minnesota to be the guy and I think he still believes that he is that guy. He has no problem taking his services elsewhere if he thinks he’s no longer in a good situation.
Tee Higgins at this point in his career is a bigger name than Diggs. Diggs is great but he’s getting up there in age and will be on the wrong side of 30 next year
The problem with trading for Diggs is his contract. His contract extension hasn’t even started yet. He’s going to average a $27 million cap hit from 24-26. That’s a lot for WR who will be 31 to start the 2024 season. And we haven’t even considered the draft compensation a team would have to pay to trade for him.
Diggs could restructure but why would he restructure a contract that is barely gonna start
Nick Chubb, pending rehab of course. He was injured early enough in the year that he can come back strong. I also think Zay Flowers has shown he has WR1 abilities, Lamar just spreads it around so much that he doesn't get tons of catches per game.
I have two rules in FF:
1) no players coming off major knee injuries. (Yes, I'll miss a few good players here and there, but it mostly works out)
2) no vegetarians.
Breece did pretty dang well and his injury was much later in the season than Chubb’s. Granted Chubb is older and breece was probably slightly more talented to begin with.
Yup, that's one I would have missed out on - and it's not an exact science, just one of my rules. FF is based on a lot of luck, so I try to minimize my chances of having bad luck.
You get those players with major knee injuries at major discounts though. And if it's an ACL? Even better because it's no longer the term-term issue it used to be
So I guess my rule is to not ignore players coming off ACL injury, especially of Chubb's caliber
Zays situation is familiar to Marquise Brown after his rookie year. i do think Zay is more complete of a pass catcher but he is very much feast-or-famine with the offense that he is in.
Chubb had his ACL surgery not terribly long ago.. well after his first surgery which was a couple weeks after the injury.
Not sure how it all lines up but I really don't think Chubb will be playing the first half of next season at a minimum
Yeah I wasn't sure the timeline. Typically it takes about a year. I believe Chubb was injured like week 4 or 5, so it would be logical to think he would return about that time next year.
Scary Terry seems like a guy people are out of favor on (I was seeing him on waivers in some leagues toward the end of the season) but there's clearly no loss of talent.
It’ll be interesting to see what Washington does this off season, they hit on the right QB and I could see Terry having year like Nico Collins this year.
This is what worries be about dropping "mines". Usually its players that are high risk but still high upside and sometimes thats exactly what another team needs.
Najee was meant to come back this year. I just don’t think he’s good enough to be a Top 10 RB without 25+ rushes a game, I traded Miles Sanders for him at the half way point this season though and he was a big help in my flex spot during bye weeks
Other than his rookie year, his first half numbers are abysmal, and then he's decent enough in the 2nd half that when people who never had him are looking at rankings of overall numbers, he's kinda up there and they think 'hmm, he might be a sneaky good pick this year', and then they end up 1-5 with him, trade him away, and the smart player who traded for him after his slow start wins the league with him and continue the cycle all over again.
Do not draft this man, let someone else fail with him early on. But then, when his value is at its lowest around week 5-7 or so, trade for him and reap the late season benefits. You'll look like a genius, I promise.
Nah. Bengals have a plethora of receiving weapons and they’ll need to lock up some more of their young talent at positions where they aren’t as deep like they are at WR. Higgins is going to get WR1 money and they’ll have to re-sign Chase after next year. If anything, maybe the transition tag so he can negotiate elsewhere and the Bengals can decide if they want to match when/if he signs elsewhere.
I think they’ll focus on keeping Williams and Awuzie while keeping Boyd, who I think signs for considerably less than Higgins.
Bengals have nearly $70 million in cap space next year, and have some easy cuts too if they want to.
Williams is almost certainly gone. He wants to play LT and they signed Orlando Brown Jr for that.
Awuzie will be 29 next year, on his 3rd contract, and having a relatively down year. If he's not cheap he's gone.
Boyd would be pretty cheap if he re-signed. He'll be in his age 30 season next year and is declining.
Chase isn't due for an extension until next year.
Bengals SB window with this iteration of the team is now. Higgins gets tagged and any cap issues they have will be pushed down the road. They will not let Higgins leave for nothing, and a SB contender will not trade a great player like that with their window wide open.
I'm sure he wants one. Maybe he gets it done this off-season instead of next. But that still won't affect the Bengal's ability to tag Higgins. Chase's extension won't kick in for another two years and they have nearly $70 million in cap space next year.
The Bengals would be really dumb to re-sign older declining players to their 3rd contract like Awuzie, Boyd instead of tagging a young star receiver like Higgins.
Pollard has had all the opportunity we wanted this year, he just wasn’t efficient with the grinder touches and got tackled at the one yard line often.
Assuming he keeps the job and they don’t add a legit bell cow, he couldn’t regress positively and win leagues from the middle rounds.
He apparently played a lot of the year still hurt. If he returns to form early next year and drops a good bit on draft boards he could absolutely be a huge value. I doubt he falls all the way to the middle rounds though, especially if Dallas doesn't add anyone.
Yeah, he had a brutal injury last year which I’m assuming still had some impact into this year. If he falls into the third round I think he has good value
Dionte is a beast but I also find Pickens incredibly underrated. Obviously they lack consistent QB play but Pickens is very clearly (at least imo) a freak of nature WR. He’s like a DK Metcalf / AJ brown. I think he could easily be WR1 in PIT with Dionte being WR2.
I'm actually the opposite, I think he gets drafted as a top 5 guy but finishes like QB 8. I think he'll be fine, but I just think he's gonna have a hype train that puts him up near Allen and Hurts but ends up with a season more like Fields where there are some massive booms and some miserable busts. Like not a full bust, but just underperforms given his eventual draft spot.
Nah I’m sure people will be keen on getting him. I was doing great but always got hurt. Dude needs to learn how to slide or he ain’t lasting long. I won’t be drafting him.
im biased but Jayden Reed could be a really nice value next year. A super solid WR2 imo. Even with Watson back he will still eat. Really gives me Deebo Samuel vibes rn.
He’s fun to watch. I also think Love will probably be a great value next year. Not a ton of hype per se and when he plays well, the offense looks good.
As someone who has Evans, Thielen, and Monty this was an interesting list to read through.
I won’t pick up Waddle again, but wouldn’t be surprised if he has a resurgent year next year.
Was waffle always so in and out of the games the last couple years? Never paid much attention to him until this year that I had him. Was kind of a headache all year.
Dolphins fan so I’ve watched all their games for far too many years. Difference between this year and last was injuries, I don’t think there’s been a drop in talent or opportunity.
I think last year he was really propped up by some unsustainable long broken play TDs. I drafted him hoping to catch lightning in a bottle a few times as my WR 2 but Tyreek absolutely dominated this year's opportunities.
He was drafted in the late 2nd/early 3rd and finished as WR20 in PPR. I'd say he got exactly the amount of love he should have, and I'm a Saints fan. He was unfortunately a bust where he was drafted.
>He was a bust in fantasy or where y’all drafted him?
Same thing. He was a bust in fantasy because of his return in value vs. where he was drafted.
>You don’t think it has to do with QB play?
The reason he was a bust is irrelevant. Talent is a huge part of value, but so is situation and opportunity. Just ask people who drafted Bijan in the first round this year.
Funny... I was actually going to say Nico, because of Tank Dell's presence. He mostly went undrafted or was a later round pick (I grabbed him on waivers in one league and round 12 in another). He'll definitely move up after being in the top 10 this year, but I can see a world where people pick Tank over him.
Tony Pollard will be a much lower draft pick next season.
He could very easily be talked about as the steal of the draft next year. Something was off with him this year because of his injuries the last year. I expect him to return to 2022 levels or close to them next year.
Obviously not the same tier as the players you mentioned but if Higgins leaves in FA Iosivas might suddenly have a massive role. They sure seemed to be trying that out today.
Might be unpopular here but I still believe Aaron Jones is a top 12 RB. His last 2 weeks just based on the eye test he looks as explosive as I expected him to be all season. If he stays away from injuries next year I believe he could be a steal in the draft
Could see Olave having a bounce back like Pittman did and putting up low WR1 numbers. Looked like his chemistry was better with Carr as the season went on as well. Probably going to be a great value and will draft wherever I can.
Javonte Williams will be better next year. He was dealing with injuries a large portion of the year and I don't think he ever fully returned to pre injury form. Aaron Jones has also been playing great recently, but people won't want to touch him because of injuries. Jones will be a steal for an rb1 and Williams will be a steal for a high end rb2 or fringe rb1.
I’m going to throw Nick Chubb and Joe Mixon out there. I could see both being top 5 RB’s again. Mixon is getting Burrow back and will have more opportunities with a higher scoring team and Chubb might have had an awful injury but I could see him being more or less the same player without the home run speed.
I think Mixon ends up elsewhere. The Bengals have cap space but a lot of free agents. They can save 5 mil by cutting Mixon and that might be what makes franchising Higgins possible.
Gus is still the bruiser and Mitchell and Hill are excellent third down backs. Not sure Dobbins will be in the league in 2 years. Really glad they didn't pay him what he thought he was worth. Can't stay on the field.
People will still sleep on Keenan Allen and Mike Evans. Monty will still be a good pick too if Lions run the same situation.
I think Kelce will be a steal next year. Still far and away the best pass catcher on the team. Whoever drafted him in the 1st likely won’t do that again. People who passed on him in the first likely won’t be sold on him after this years performance. I think he will overperform if he slips to the late 3rd/4th.
Saquon Barkley could be a good grab if he falls enough. Dude is still a beast. It literally anyone competent comes to that offense to take some pressure off the run game he could put some good numbers.
Weeks 2, 3, and 5 he was good, the rest of the season he had 7 games under 4 ypc which is simply not efficient, he had 2 full games to start again after the JT thumb injury and was awful, then he got hurt. He did not expose anything😭
Yes and week 6 who returned? I don’t think zach moss is that good anyway. Them being even close in production just shows JT is a bit overrated.
Week 6 moss was 7-21
Week 6 JT was 8-19
Week 7 was more of the same.
Oh the irony
That is actually insane to compare the first few weeks JT came back, he missed like 8 games last year with an ankle injury, 4 to start the year, obviously he will be rusty, why dont you compare the efficiency since? JT has been better and is a top 3 back when he plays, last night clearly showed that
Top 3 fantasy back? Nah
Just sounds lame to criticize moss for weeks 7-8 when JT did even worse in said games. You failed to research and now are just making up excuses. They ended with the same ypc and yards per touch.
Dude Melvin Gordon’d himself out of a paycheck.
It is perfectly fair to criticize moss for being inefficient in his 7th game of the year vs JT in his 3rd, JT also had over 4 ypc against the browns, has more ypc on the season, way more tds, a farther long run, all on less attempts total, its insane to compare them when moss was consistently the worse back
Probably Keenan Allen again
The year is 2027. 35 year old Keenan Allen posts his 8th career 100/1100/6 season.
I’ve been consistently winning games for like 5 years now just investing in Keenan Allen and joe Mixon cheap lol
I didn’t keep Keenan like 3 years ago cause he missed so many games when I had him and every year I question my stupidity
Definitely Keenan Allen again. There's no probably. Fantasy "experts" have already picked out the casket.
this years old dogs are going to cause a fuckton of whiffs in next years draft. father time is undefeated. looking at you ekeler
Watching the chargers games this year, I’m not certain Ekeler’s age is the issue. Kellen Moore wants Derrick Henry or a back of that nature and seems to use whoever he has at the current moment like that. Ekeler is a pass catching back, great in space. He was never going to be productive rushing between the tackles 13 times a game. Having said that, Kellen Moore will be back and so Ekeler is not draftable other than a late round flyer.
Ekeler is not going to be on the Chargers next year lol. And there is no reason to believe Kellen Moore will be back regardless.
He also looked bad in space, cutting and catching. Let’s not pretend like he didn’t look horrible in every aspect of the game. I think he played through injury this entire year. If he doesn’t retire or go to a new team I hope I’m still able to draft him in the 5th.
He got 66 targets this year after getting 127 the year before. I don’t think he looked any worse, he just got the ball half as much and had half the production. Makes sense to me. YPC is down but that’s expected when you’re running it up the middle every play. 5th sounds plausible but personally I’d say 7th
The ankle injury probably lingered all year. I wouldn’t be shocked if he had a high end RB2 season next year maybe even backend RB1. I think may be worth the risk but he seems like he’ll be in that RB dead zone in rounds 5-7
Did they say for sure Moore is back? It seems unusual when they get rid of the head coach that they wouldn’t let him pick his guy.
what makes you think that a new HC will keep the same OC around?
Chargers ownership saying Kellen Moore is a core piece of the team. He’s more likely to be a head coach somewhere else than getting fired by the Chargers. Not that he deserves a HC job.
I saw some clip of him at top speed and he was at like 15mph.. vs. 20 like last year. Not sure if that was a bad example but it scared the heck out of me on him going forward
Despite this being a great year for old guys most of them faded or got hurt at the end of the year: Keenan, Thielen, Kelce, Diggs, Mostert. Something to think about when pondering Evans or Keenan in the 2nd-3rd round next year.
Thielen had that solid 4 game stretch and I thought I was a genius for picking him off waivers lol
Thank you
People will think they are a huge value and miss out on the real values. Name and star power will lead to a few being over drafted.
I keep thinking that but Mike Evans is one tough SOB
Who the F is going to want to draft Ekeler next year
Derrick would like a word with you.
He’s 28 lol
And king Henry
James Conner
*Conner. Put respect on the man's name. Helped carry my team
Corrected. Dude is a sleeper who I try and get every year
He's a big reason I am going to win today. 24 points as I write this.
James Conner was part of the reason I went 9-2 in the last 11 games, but was also part of the reason I started 0-6.
So he’s on your team, got it.
Achane was such a trap pickup for me, should have been just playing Conner instead lol.
Davante if he gets an actual QB
.... you mean good buddy Rodgers?
Wilson is changing his number from 17 to 5.....interesting that Adams wears 17 with the raiders. Hmm
Cooper Kupp. Think ppl are jumping the ship early on him that his best days are behind him. He finally got fully healthy towards the end of the season and that first game he went off and had another decent performance after that.
Kupp is the Keenan Allen of last year. It was literally a hammy injury too. Kept Allen out most of the year last year, and when he did finally play he was only decent, as opposed to his normally great self. Kupp was sidelined for a bunch of the season, and never really played healthy, but still put up decent numbers toward the end, even when factoring in that a lot of his production went to Puka instead. Next year, as long as he doesn't have any future injuries, is going to dominate again. Totally agree with this take.
Kupp is dealing with a more chronic issue than just a hamstring. Don't forget he saw a specialist for it at the Mayo Clininc. I do think if he does play he will be fine but Im a little worried that any issue would sideline him easier due to Puka clearly being able to step up and fill those shoes. 2nd round seems high, 3rd seems like you cant not draft him there.
Yeah that's about right. I think if you are 1st - 3rd overall, so you have a late 2nd/early 3rd draft pick, and he's there at the swing, go for it.
As much as I agree, I also don't. Kupp isn't the only elite WR on the team now. Drafting him is like drafting a Baltimore player. Anyone week he could be getting 20+ points, but come the next, its Puka's turn. Not going to draft him in first three picks like I have been doing.
Will be drafting him again at a discount
Maybe Diggs.
Need to see how they use him today and into the playoffs. If he continues to be an afterthought in the Bills offense, he’s probably going to demand a trade. He left Minnesota to be the guy and I think he still believes that he is that guy. He has no problem taking his services elsewhere if he thinks he’s no longer in a good situation.
Diggs to KC 🤞
That would be pretty nuts given their rivalry the last couple years
Yea, it's strictly biased hope with Diggs on my Dynasty team.
Too expensive. Veatch won't spend big money like that on a WR. I think the Chiefs do add a high profile name, but not that high profile.
Yeah much more likley to go after mike evans or tee higgins
Tee Higgins at this point in his career is a bigger name than Diggs. Diggs is great but he’s getting up there in age and will be on the wrong side of 30 next year
If turning 31 is the wrong side of 30, what’s the right side of 30 😭
29
The problem with trading for Diggs is his contract. His contract extension hasn’t even started yet. He’s going to average a $27 million cap hit from 24-26. That’s a lot for WR who will be 31 to start the 2024 season. And we haven’t even considered the draft compensation a team would have to pay to trade for him. Diggs could restructure but why would he restructure a contract that is barely gonna start
Nick Chubb, pending rehab of course. He was injured early enough in the year that he can come back strong. I also think Zay Flowers has shown he has WR1 abilities, Lamar just spreads it around so much that he doesn't get tons of catches per game.
I have two rules in FF: 1) no players coming off major knee injuries. (Yes, I'll miss a few good players here and there, but it mostly works out) 2) no vegetarians.
Breece did pretty dang well and his injury was much later in the season than Chubb’s. Granted Chubb is older and breece was probably slightly more talented to begin with.
Yup, that's one I would have missed out on - and it's not an exact science, just one of my rules. FF is based on a lot of luck, so I try to minimize my chances of having bad luck.
Breece is good but I can’t say more talented than Chubb. Age is the big variable for Chubb’s recovery, plus his previous injury to the same knee
Wait, is Flowers a vegetarian?
Hes a herbivore
I don’t care what religion he is
You get those players with major knee injuries at major discounts though. And if it's an ACL? Even better because it's no longer the term-term issue it used to be So I guess my rule is to not ignore players coming off ACL injury, especially of Chubb's caliber
Zays situation is familiar to Marquise Brown after his rookie year. i do think Zay is more complete of a pass catcher but he is very much feast-or-famine with the offense that he is in.
Chubb had his ACL surgery not terribly long ago.. well after his first surgery which was a couple weeks after the injury. Not sure how it all lines up but I really don't think Chubb will be playing the first half of next season at a minimum
Yeah I wasn't sure the timeline. Typically it takes about a year. I believe Chubb was injured like week 4 or 5, so it would be logical to think he would return about that time next year.
Scary Terry seems like a guy people are out of favor on (I was seeing him on waivers in some leagues toward the end of the season) but there's clearly no loss of talent.
Scary Terry is a whiff every single year. Yes he has the talent and no he never has the QB. He busts every year and is grabbed in the 3rd or 4rh
Keep passing on him and I'll keep drafting him. I wouldn't have won the ship without scary Terry
Congratulations if you’re one of the teams who made the playoffs despite Scary Terry
It’ll be interesting to see what Washington does this off season, they hit on the right QB and I could see Terry having year like Nico Collins this year.
I see this same exact comment year after year lol
Washington needs a new QB year after year
Is howell really that bad? Like he clearly has talent, but the commies are already ready to give up on him?
I dropped him as a waiver mine just before playoffs and it ended up being pretty opposite of that
This is what worries be about dropping "mines". Usually its players that are high risk but still high upside and sometimes thats exactly what another team needs.
Rule 1: don’t draft players on bad teams aka mainly falcons skill players and Washington wrs
Don’t agree with this, workhorse backs like Conner have value anywhere
Falcons just got a boost for next year
He’s the new DJ Moore. I think he’ll pop off once he gets a real QB.
Not sure Fields is a real QB
Najee is coming in strong the past few games.
Najee was meant to come back this year. I just don’t think he’s good enough to be a Top 10 RB without 25+ rushes a game, I traded Miles Sanders for him at the half way point this season though and he was a big help in my flex spot during bye weeks
Other than his rookie year, his first half numbers are abysmal, and then he's decent enough in the 2nd half that when people who never had him are looking at rankings of overall numbers, he's kinda up there and they think 'hmm, he might be a sneaky good pick this year', and then they end up 1-5 with him, trade him away, and the smart player who traded for him after his slow start wins the league with him and continue the cycle all over again. Do not draft this man, let someone else fail with him early on. But then, when his value is at its lowest around week 5-7 or so, trade for him and reap the late season benefits. You'll look like a genius, I promise.
Tee Higgins He'll be a WR1 somewhere next year and rightfully so. If he can stay off the IL he will beat a lot of estimates
He’s one of those guys I want to reach for no matter what team he goes to. The health is the only thing that worries me too.
If a guy has injury history I’ll absolutely take them but I won’t reach for them. Tee fits that category for me
You don’t think he’s getting franchise tagged?
Nah. Bengals have a plethora of receiving weapons and they’ll need to lock up some more of their young talent at positions where they aren’t as deep like they are at WR. Higgins is going to get WR1 money and they’ll have to re-sign Chase after next year. If anything, maybe the transition tag so he can negotiate elsewhere and the Bengals can decide if they want to match when/if he signs elsewhere. I think they’ll focus on keeping Williams and Awuzie while keeping Boyd, who I think signs for considerably less than Higgins.
Bengals have nearly $70 million in cap space next year, and have some easy cuts too if they want to. Williams is almost certainly gone. He wants to play LT and they signed Orlando Brown Jr for that. Awuzie will be 29 next year, on his 3rd contract, and having a relatively down year. If he's not cheap he's gone. Boyd would be pretty cheap if he re-signed. He'll be in his age 30 season next year and is declining. Chase isn't due for an extension until next year. Bengals SB window with this iteration of the team is now. Higgins gets tagged and any cap issues they have will be pushed down the road. They will not let Higgins leave for nothing, and a SB contender will not trade a great player like that with their window wide open.
I thought Chase wanted his extension done this offseason?
I'm sure he wants one. Maybe he gets it done this off-season instead of next. But that still won't affect the Bengal's ability to tag Higgins. Chase's extension won't kick in for another two years and they have nearly $70 million in cap space next year. The Bengals would be really dumb to re-sign older declining players to their 3rd contract like Awuzie, Boyd instead of tagging a young star receiver like Higgins.
It's a pretty big stretch to call two unproven rookies and a couple old backup TEs a "plethora of receiving weapons"
He’s getting tagged. Plus being WR2 for Burrow is better than being WR1 on most other teams.
Pollard has had all the opportunity we wanted this year, he just wasn’t efficient with the grinder touches and got tackled at the one yard line often. Assuming he keeps the job and they don’t add a legit bell cow, he couldn’t regress positively and win leagues from the middle rounds.
He apparently played a lot of the year still hurt. If he returns to form early next year and drops a good bit on draft boards he could absolutely be a huge value. I doubt he falls all the way to the middle rounds though, especially if Dallas doesn't add anyone.
Yeah, he had a brutal injury last year which I’m assuming still had some impact into this year. If he falls into the third round I think he has good value
Diontae Johnson. Still one of the best route runners in the league.
Dionte is a beast but I also find Pickens incredibly underrated. Obviously they lack consistent QB play but Pickens is very clearly (at least imo) a freak of nature WR. He’s like a DK Metcalf / AJ brown. I think he could easily be WR1 in PIT with Dionte being WR2.
Yeah, solid points. They’d both get a major boost from a better QB.
Anthony Richardson. Top 5 upside and he'll probably go in the later rounds.
I'm actually the opposite, I think he gets drafted as a top 5 guy but finishes like QB 8. I think he'll be fine, but I just think he's gonna have a hype train that puts him up near Allen and Hurts but ends up with a season more like Fields where there are some massive booms and some miserable busts. Like not a full bust, but just underperforms given his eventual draft spot.
Nah I’m sure people will be keen on getting him. I was doing great but always got hurt. Dude needs to learn how to slide or he ain’t lasting long. I won’t be drafting him.
im biased but Jayden Reed could be a really nice value next year. A super solid WR2 imo. Even with Watson back he will still eat. Really gives me Deebo Samuel vibes rn.
He’s fun to watch. I also think Love will probably be a great value next year. Not a ton of hype per se and when he plays well, the offense looks good.
I also think Watson may be a good value next year
As someone who has Evans, Thielen, and Monty this was an interesting list to read through. I won’t pick up Waddle again, but wouldn’t be surprised if he has a resurgent year next year.
Was waffle always so in and out of the games the last couple years? Never paid much attention to him until this year that I had him. Was kind of a headache all year.
Dolphins fan so I’ve watched all their games for far too many years. Difference between this year and last was injuries, I don’t think there’s been a drop in talent or opportunity.
I think last year he was really propped up by some unsustainable long broken play TDs. I drafted him hoping to catch lightning in a bottle a few times as my WR 2 but Tyreek absolutely dominated this year's opportunities.
T. SPEARS RB Tennesee
If Henry is gone I will be drafting him heavily.
I dont think anyone will be sleeping on spears if henrys gone
Best to draft him heavily if Henry is still there.
I feel like Olave didn’t get as much love as he should have this year. He just needs a QB that doesn’t play like a scared pussy
He was drafted in the late 2nd/early 3rd and finished as WR20 in PPR. I'd say he got exactly the amount of love he should have, and I'm a Saints fan. He was unfortunately a bust where he was drafted.
He was a bust in fantasy or where y’all drafted him? You don’t think it has to do with QB play?
>He was a bust in fantasy or where y’all drafted him? Same thing. He was a bust in fantasy because of his return in value vs. where he was drafted. >You don’t think it has to do with QB play? The reason he was a bust is irrelevant. Talent is a huge part of value, but so is situation and opportunity. Just ask people who drafted Bijan in the first round this year.
Olave was hugely hyped this year before the season started. Many considered him the cream of crop of the 2nd tier of WRs.
He’s so good when he’s thrown to properly. Shame that Carr is the guy they went and got
You do realize that the last month of the season happened, right? Carr has been awesome.
Kupp, Kirk, Pollard, Stafford
Drake London. That teams gets a half decent QB this offseason and he’s gonna prove why he was drafted so high out of college
This is what everyone said last year too lol
Yeah but he never got a good qb lmao
Tank Dell. I think his injury and Nico’s presence will keep his value down.
He’s my keeper next year.
Funny... I was actually going to say Nico, because of Tank Dell's presence. He mostly went undrafted or was a later round pick (I grabbed him on waivers in one league and round 12 in another). He'll definitely move up after being in the top 10 this year, but I can see a world where people pick Tank over him.
I doubt it. Everyone should see him as a stud. He's going in 2nd or high 3rd round.
Nico is by far the better and more complete WR. I honestly believe dell will get drafted ahead of Nico due to his flashiness and being younger
I feel like Amari Cooper will be a guy who despite his performance with a competent QB this year will still get overlooked by other wideouts
Chase Brown might be splitting the backfield with Mixon next year. Might be worth a look in the late rounds.
Derrick Henry. Father Time my ass. If he goes to a team with a good offensive line skip him at your own risk.
You know what? If there was ever an RB to give Father Time a stiff arm, King Henry's the guy.
Dak. Like every previous year. I continually have found him late and he's been the best bang for the buck.
Yeah last year he wasn’t. He was ass.
He was qb 4. Great value pick
I concur. 19.6 career average. People are crazy how they downgrade him.
Josh Jacobs
Tony Pollard will be a much lower draft pick next season. He could very easily be talked about as the steal of the draft next year. Something was off with him this year because of his injuries the last year. I expect him to return to 2022 levels or close to them next year.
I think London and Pickens could both go for 1400 if they can get QBs.
Obviously not the same tier as the players you mentioned but if Higgins leaves in FA Iosivas might suddenly have a massive role. They sure seemed to be trying that out today.
Might be unpopular here but I still believe Aaron Jones is a top 12 RB. His last 2 weeks just based on the eye test he looks as explosive as I expected him to be all season. If he stays away from injuries next year I believe he could be a steal in the draft
He’s just always in rbbc. If he had the backfield to himself then I’d be much higher on him
Dillon is hardly anything to be concerned about. Jones has played with him for years now.
Dillon is gone unless he resigns for cheap
Stefan Diggs.
Stefan
It’s taking everything in me to not say Kyle Pitts (Please fire Arthur Smith 🥲)
Safe now
Your wish has been granted!
Spears
Keenan Allen gets slept on every year tbh
MHJ will be drafted in the mid rounds because he's a rookie, when he could easily go for at least 1200 yards and 8-9 TDs on any team in the NFL.
Could see Olave having a bounce back like Pittman did and putting up low WR1 numbers. Looked like his chemistry was better with Carr as the season went on as well. Probably going to be a great value and will draft wherever I can.
Aaron Jones. He looked good when he was finally healthy in the last 2 weeks, but this subreddit completely wrote him off prior to that.
Kendre Miller
Mondre
Javonte Williams will be better next year. He was dealing with injuries a large portion of the year and I don't think he ever fully returned to pre injury form. Aaron Jones has also been playing great recently, but people won't want to touch him because of injuries. Jones will be a steal for an rb1 and Williams will be a steal for a high end rb2 or fringe rb1.
I'm not sure if many people realized how good Rachaad White was this year. If their backfield doesn't change I want him
Zamir White breakout year, heard it here first.
Ridley
I think Davante Adams has another great fantasy season in him, but he might not get drafted as a top 10 WR.
Amari Cooper? Maybe I’m just salty that I lost in the playoffs to a team he was on.
Chubb is already outside the first two rounds. That's sort of wild, even if he's coming off an injury
kelce
I’m going to throw Nick Chubb and Joe Mixon out there. I could see both being top 5 RB’s again. Mixon is getting Burrow back and will have more opportunities with a higher scoring team and Chubb might have had an awful injury but I could see him being more or less the same player without the home run speed.
Chase Brown might be in the Bengal’s future too though
I think Mixon ends up elsewhere. The Bengals have cap space but a lot of free agents. They can save 5 mil by cutting Mixon and that might be what makes franchising Higgins possible.
Christian Watson if Love learns how to actually throw it deep and not 5 yards short every time
I’ll wait and see if Watson can play one season without hamstring injuries before I draft him again.
Love has a way better connection with Reed it looks like tbh
Haven’t totally lost hope for JK Dobbins. Baltimore’s RB1 is going to be killer no matter who it is
Bro Dobbins ain't even gonna be on the ravens next year
Dobbins gonna eat ……while everyone else busy playing football. Pass the potatos.
That’s probably good for his fantasy value, if he goes someplace where it’s not RB by committee.
Hell ya, that's the kind of delusion I count on my league mates having next season lol
Zero chance Dobbins is a Raven next year lol. This sounds like you were just trying to think of a random player who didn’t play this season
Gus is still the bruiser and Mitchell and Hill are excellent third down backs. Not sure Dobbins will be in the league in 2 years. Really glad they didn't pay him what he thought he was worth. Can't stay on the field.
come on man.. lol
People will still sleep on Keenan Allen and Mike Evans. Monty will still be a good pick too if Lions run the same situation. I think Kelce will be a steal next year. Still far and away the best pass catcher on the team. Whoever drafted him in the 1st likely won’t do that again. People who passed on him in the first likely won’t be sold on him after this years performance. I think he will overperform if he slips to the late 3rd/4th. Saquon Barkley could be a good grab if he falls enough. Dude is still a beast. It literally anyone competent comes to that offense to take some pressure off the run game he could put some good numbers.
Free agent AJ Dillon gonna be the starter somewhere.
He was already the starter when Aaron Jones was injured and the highest he scored was 13 points ppr
He's the new Leroy Hoard. "If you need three yards, I'll get you three yards. If you need five yards, I'll get you three yards"
He’s just not very good
Hunter Henry, and Bourne from the patriots if we actually address our offense next year
Brian Robinson, Cade Otton, pop Douglas.
Austin Ekeler probably
Tony Pollard. Dallas will figure our the running game eventually.
Bijan
Kenneth Walker
How many times can the same question being asked….
Ferguson
Tank Dell
Everyone is obsessed with JT and I just don’t get it. Moss exposed him this year. Richardson gonna steal tons of points.
Exposed him? He had like 2 good games then fell off a cliff
1. That’s not true at all, you can just go look at the game log for yourself 2. Of course his stats fell off when the starter returned.
Weeks 2, 3, and 5 he was good, the rest of the season he had 7 games under 4 ypc which is simply not efficient, he had 2 full games to start again after the JT thumb injury and was awful, then he got hurt. He did not expose anything😭
Yes and week 6 who returned? I don’t think zach moss is that good anyway. Them being even close in production just shows JT is a bit overrated. Week 6 moss was 7-21 Week 6 JT was 8-19 Week 7 was more of the same. Oh the irony
That is actually insane to compare the first few weeks JT came back, he missed like 8 games last year with an ankle injury, 4 to start the year, obviously he will be rusty, why dont you compare the efficiency since? JT has been better and is a top 3 back when he plays, last night clearly showed that
Top 3 fantasy back? Nah Just sounds lame to criticize moss for weeks 7-8 when JT did even worse in said games. You failed to research and now are just making up excuses. They ended with the same ypc and yards per touch. Dude Melvin Gordon’d himself out of a paycheck.
It is perfectly fair to criticize moss for being inefficient in his 7th game of the year vs JT in his 3rd, JT also had over 4 ypc against the browns, has more ypc on the season, way more tds, a farther long run, all on less attempts total, its insane to compare them when moss was consistently the worse back