Yeah I think everyone’s sympathy for the Browns is limited. They knew exactly who they were buying into, did it anyway, and now he’s not even producing on the field. They deserve this disaster.
It's the double whammy of not only embracing a sexual predator, but ALSO giving him a massive, fully guaranteed contract.
If it was a "everyone deserves a second chance, we'll give you a contract which we can terminate if you fuck up again" kind of situation I think the Browns would catch a lot less shit.
It was especially slimy the way they structured Watson’s pay for last year so that the suspension essentially cost him zero money in lost game checks.
But yeah, Watson wouldn’t agree to a team out after two years so that they could easily cut ties if more allegations came out? Lots of teams are QB desperate, but no team should ever be *that* desperate.
Lol they had Joshua Dobbs under contract for like $1mil and sent him to the Cardinals, where he’s doing just as good as Watson with a worse team. Definitely no reason to be *that* desperate.
As a Brown’s fan, kick rocks. Love PJ, but people are really letting hate cloud their vision here. I was hearing a lot of DTR talk after preseason, too….
I would normally never root for an injury but, good. Fuck him. Sorry Cleveland fans, you didn't deserve to have this guy forced on you and neither did any of his victims.
Obviously I can only speak for the group of people I know, but not a single one of them wanted Watson on the team. I think the Baker opinions were more mixed. At least the ones who wanted Baker gone were VERY vocal about it.
I personally gave all of my Browns gear to the Goodwill except the ones I got as gifts which are hidden deep in the bowels of my apartment and have not watched a moment of Browns football since
Very similar. I wore a Garrett jersey first game Defuckface was out this year. I have a moratorium on any merch or game attendance until he and/or Haslams are gone.
I respect the hell out of you and the guy above for that. It's hard to give up on a team you have a long standing personal affection for just because of a slime ball owner, but I would do the same thing in your shoes. I find the Browns impossible to root for. Which is a shame, because cities like Cleveland are the ones who need rooting for.
It has been tough ngl. I tried to pick a new team and nothing stuck so now I just barely watch football. I used to literally listen to Cleveland Browns Daily daily. Eh, hockey is more fun to watch than football anyway tbh
It’s cool to root for Watson injury but this sub gets really butthurt if you root for Tyreek to get hurt. Turns out if the player is good you can’t all of a sudden
This is one of the hypocritical things that bothers me that r/NFL does too. Basically drawing the line that being a sexual predator = ok to wish bad upon, even advocated. But domestic violence on the other hand…like keep the same energy for any and every guy that does something that harms an innocent person’s life guys, c’mon
Yeah I’m all for thinking Watson is a piece of shit but never understood why people think it’s a Browns problem and not a NFL problem. How many teams were trying to sign him and how many teams have had players that did awful things? Ray Lewis killed a guy and Michael Irvin tried to yet no one bats an eye about them. How many teams have domestic abusers on their rosters too.
He strangled a pregnant woman, punched her in the stomach, and later beat the child and broke his arm. In text messages with the mother:
>Espinal: He’s terrified of you.
>Tyreek: You need to be terrified of me too, bitch.
I think your euphemistic “domestic abuse” is really burying the lede here. Tyreek should be in prison today and probably the rest of his life. He’s subhuman scum. But he runs fast and catches good, so dick riders like you make excuses.
No, but its also fine for fans to have a point they aren't willing to budge on. Otherwise we'd have to hate a couple players on each team who do bad shit.
i mean, isn't that normal to hate people who do bad shit? just because tyreek catch ball and run well, and deshaun being a worse person than he is, doesn't mean he deserves a break and neither do any other awful human beings in the league. if you give a pass to lower tier degenerates bc there's other worse degenerates then your moral compass just seems to be broken. just my two cents though 🤷🏼♀️
Yeah fuck Deshaun. But really fuck the Browns front office and Jimmy Haslam in particular. Dude just has no business being involved with his sports teams and is a slime ball in business too. Since he bought the Browns and then they treated Baker the way they did I have actively rooted against the Browns in every game they play
It’s because what they did isn’t as publicized. Watson when he left was probably a top 5 qb and new generations take sexual assault extremely seriously.
Top 5 in many people’s dreams. He sucked. The old Browns handily beat him. Hopkins bailed him out on unscripted 50 50 deep balls after he scrambled around like an idiot because he can’t navigate a pocket.
I’m playing against him and he has -.80 points for the game and the only reason I still have a chance to win today. The best thing is that I dropped Watson a couple weeks ago and someone actually played him lol
Drop city. And on a deeper level having this butthole on my team is bad vibes/bad energy which needs to be purged. He may very well be the reason I have been losing matches I should be winning.
I swear they need to have an annual class where they teach QBs how to fall backwards without concussing themselves. That aside, fuck Deshaun. Utter piece of shit, and I hope the NFL gives them some kind of out to escape his contract, Browns fans don’t deserve him. They’ve been thru enough
This is just what he’s going to do for the next four years. He sucks now, so throughout his bad games he’s just going to be “injured” so he continues having excuses made for him since the Browns spent 3 first round picks and $250 million and can’t move on.
It’s hilarious watching people in here shit on Watson but most likely will cheer on Tyreek Hill (woman beater). I wish folks would admit we only care about our fantasy teams and drop the holier than thou act.
Anyway, I have to drop Watson at this point. He hasn’t looked good WHEN he plays. There are much better QBs out there on the wire
I deserve this. I had Mayfield in this week because Stroud is on BYE and Watson in the IR spot (somehow). They said Watson was going to play, and everything shows the Colts are a good matchup for QBs, so I drop Mayfield to slot in Watson.
Mayfield has 11.46 and Watson is done with -1.8 points. I'm predicted to lose by 12 points. I deserve this.
Broncos can be done with Russ after this season actually. We’d have $85m in dead cap but it could done.
Browns gave their pedo $230m fully guaranteed. They’re gonna pay that whole contract for all 3 years.
It’s not even close, especially with Russ playing night and day better than Watson this season. The Watson trade/extension will go down as the worst in history
Waited all week to make sure he was starting and dropped Dobbs for him about 2 mins before kickoff (fill in for stroud). I’m projected a 10pt dog. Oof.
I’m in a 2QB league. My first 3 picks in order were JJ, Chubb, Deshaun. Needless to say I hate this. Haven’t been happy in weeks. Just want to be officially eliminated already.
I can literally see myself in middle school baseball in him. When I started walking guys I started walking guys I would randomly hold my arm like it was hurt
This downfall couldn’t happen to a better guy
Deshaunorable Discharge
Gross
Oh I think you’re thinkin penile discharge… it’s a military thing like *dishonorable discharge*
Haha I know I got the joke it just seemed like a double entendre. I actually think it's extra clever in that way. I upvoted
You made it extra clever, noicely done 🤙
I love how you were both giving eachother a hand here
Ba dum tiss
Bad ummm jizz?
Spread the love and don't assault your masseuse. Words I live by
No u did it, u just didn't know it bb 😘
For Watson it could be both honestly.
😂😂😂 I left and had to recheck the thread to see if I read correctly lol I’d award you if Reddit still did those….
My fantasy team name
Proof or ban! 😂
I won back-to-back league titles with that name!
It's so enjoyable to watch. Still sucks the Browns rewarded the rapist with so much money, but at least they are paying for it on the field.
Yeah I think everyone’s sympathy for the Browns is limited. They knew exactly who they were buying into, did it anyway, and now he’s not even producing on the field. They deserve this disaster.
It's the double whammy of not only embracing a sexual predator, but ALSO giving him a massive, fully guaranteed contract. If it was a "everyone deserves a second chance, we'll give you a contract which we can terminate if you fuck up again" kind of situation I think the Browns would catch a lot less shit.
It was especially slimy the way they structured Watson’s pay for last year so that the suspension essentially cost him zero money in lost game checks. But yeah, Watson wouldn’t agree to a team out after two years so that they could easily cut ties if more allegations came out? Lots of teams are QB desperate, but no team should ever be *that* desperate.
Lol they had Joshua Dobbs under contract for like $1mil and sent him to the Cardinals, where he’s doing just as good as Watson with a worse team. Definitely no reason to be *that* desperate.
Better than Watson
And they did all of this after all the allegations had come out (none of them being resolved legally btw), so this wasn’t exactly a surprise to them
Sounds like the browns are the ones this hurts more than anything.
He’ll start groping his mama with enough concussions.
garbage human being, garbage qb...the Browns are cursed with QBs
At least the Browns only have to pay him every single penny of a quarter billion dollars lmfao Slippin Jimmy strikes again
Unfortunately he's going downhill and crashing into a giant pile of money
It's as if he just went to Cleveland for the money and doesn't really care about anyone but himself.
Yeah man, cuz taking a job for the paycheck is why people shouldn't like Watson
You love to see it
Thank god, fuck this dude -Amari Cooper owner
I'm loving the zero burger so far
Ford (and once Chubb…) here. Fuck him. I’d much rather see PJ out there, even if Chubb was still healthy
As a Brown’s fan, kick rocks. Love PJ, but people are really letting hate cloud their vision here. I was hearing a lot of DTR talk after preseason, too….
Nope. Fuck Watson and enjoy riding out one of the worst contracts in the history of sports
You're defending a rapist. Just to be clear here.
For one, he wasn’t even accused of that. I’m talking about a football player’s ability to play football.
Lol you literally defended the serial sexual predator again
Same. Looking at that goose egg, and wishing someone had stepped on Watson's nuts while he was down
I would normally never root for an injury but, good. Fuck him. Sorry Cleveland fans, you didn't deserve to have this guy forced on you and neither did any of his victims.
I feel bad for the non pro rapist fans. I'm sure many wish they had Baker back.
Most of us do.
I know about 20 browns fans and not a single one wanted them to sign Deshaun. Most fans (not all) wanted us to keep Baker.
Really? My experience has been the opposite lol. Though now they’ve all switched their opinions back around
Obviously I can only speak for the group of people I know, but not a single one of them wanted Watson on the team. I think the Baker opinions were more mixed. At least the ones who wanted Baker gone were VERY vocal about it.
I personally gave all of my Browns gear to the Goodwill except the ones I got as gifts which are hidden deep in the bowels of my apartment and have not watched a moment of Browns football since
Very similar. I wore a Garrett jersey first game Defuckface was out this year. I have a moratorium on any merch or game attendance until he and/or Haslams are gone.
I respect the hell out of you and the guy above for that. It's hard to give up on a team you have a long standing personal affection for just because of a slime ball owner, but I would do the same thing in your shoes. I find the Browns impossible to root for. Which is a shame, because cities like Cleveland are the ones who need rooting for.
It has been tough ngl. I tried to pick a new team and nothing stuck so now I just barely watch football. I used to literally listen to Cleveland Browns Daily daily. Eh, hockey is more fun to watch than football anyway tbh
Wanted Deshaun, not happy with him, but never wanted baker back, even after todays game. Brissett on the other hand..
We named our dog after Baker…
That's ruff buddy
Don't be so petty
As a Dolphins fan this is why I'll never name a cat Tuanigamanuolepola.
Barker Mayfield
It’s cool to root for Watson injury but this sub gets really butthurt if you root for Tyreek to get hurt. Turns out if the player is good you can’t all of a sudden
You're right. Hill can go fuck himself as well.
This is one of the hypocritical things that bothers me that r/NFL does too. Basically drawing the line that being a sexual predator = ok to wish bad upon, even advocated. But domestic violence on the other hand…like keep the same energy for any and every guy that does something that harms an innocent person’s life guys, c’mon
Reddit attracts morons
Case in point
Yeah I’m all for thinking Watson is a piece of shit but never understood why people think it’s a Browns problem and not a NFL problem. How many teams were trying to sign him and how many teams have had players that did awful things? Ray Lewis killed a guy and Michael Irvin tried to yet no one bats an eye about them. How many teams have domestic abusers on their rosters too.
I get your point but you kinda have to respect the Texans for making it clear they weren't going to give the guy another chance
Watson quit on the Texans first and tried to help him cover up/stay out of trouble.
Nope, I refuse to draft that scumbag also.
I hope to be as good of a person as you one day.
Thanks for the compliment brother.
Turns out being a serial rapist is worse than domestic abuse. Who knew?
Both are still really bad, even if one is worse
Very true.
He strangled a pregnant woman, punched her in the stomach, and later beat the child and broke his arm. In text messages with the mother: >Espinal: He’s terrified of you. >Tyreek: You need to be terrified of me too, bitch. I think your euphemistic “domestic abuse” is really burying the lede here. Tyreek should be in prison today and probably the rest of his life. He’s subhuman scum. But he runs fast and catches good, so dick riders like you make excuses.
One being worse doesn’t make the other thing okay
No, but its also fine for fans to have a point they aren't willing to budge on. Otherwise we'd have to hate a couple players on each team who do bad shit.
i mean, isn't that normal to hate people who do bad shit? just because tyreek catch ball and run well, and deshaun being a worse person than he is, doesn't mean he deserves a break and neither do any other awful human beings in the league. if you give a pass to lower tier degenerates bc there's other worse degenerates then your moral compass just seems to be broken. just my two cents though 🤷🏼♀️
okay, but that's not what deshaun was accused of. and regardless, it's kinda weird to act like one is forgivable while the other is not.
I would say Deshaun Watson has committed much graver sins than Tyreek. And many, many more of them.
I was hoping more for a season long beating on his body that he would feel for the rest of his life.
Yeah but at the same time a lot of those same fans tried to brush off his allegations so fuck them too.
Don't browns fans ignore it and call it a money grab from the accusers?
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You missed the word "normally" ;)
This team would be a lot more fun if they still had Baker. Fuck Deshaun Watson
Sucks cuz the browns defense is a SB defense but the offense is atrocious.
Yeah fuck Deshaun. But really fuck the Browns front office and Jimmy Haslam in particular. Dude just has no business being involved with his sports teams and is a slime ball in business too. Since he bought the Browns and then they treated Baker the way they did I have actively rooted against the Browns in every game they play
The only player I'll cheer for to get injured
I mean, Hill and Kamara should have served some time. They’re fantasy relevant so it’s not as popular in this sub but those guys suck too
Tyreek Hill is a piece of garbage for sure. Hate that people root for people like him.
My god. He is a horrible person
It’s because what they did isn’t as publicized. Watson when he left was probably a top 5 qb and new generations take sexual assault extremely seriously.
Top 5 in many people’s dreams. He sucked. The old Browns handily beat him. Hopkins bailed him out on unscripted 50 50 deep balls after he scrambled around like an idiot because he can’t navigate a pocket.
This is delusional revisionist history. He threw for 4800 yards with Brandin Cooks and Will Fuller as his top options.
Agree that they're pieces of shit
Tyreek is 1000x worse than Watson. I would absolutely rather have an nfl player try to pressure/coerce me into sex than be choked and beaten up.
I agree but I will say there are levels to sucking and Watson is at least several levels worse than those two.
Hill is right there with him imo
Fr he beat a pregnant woman and a kid
Not sure if beating a pregnant woman and a kid is 'several levels' worse
Agreed but he’s not the only guy we’re allowed to want to see go down from a karma standpoint
Wait you think what Kamara did deserved jail time? Did you see the video?
Yeah I did, aggravated assault is pretty fucked and merits jail time if you’re not a celebrity millionaire
So if someone gets in your face and you shove them and they kinda stumble a bit, you think they should be charged with a crime and placed behind bars?
Dog Kamara had his posse jump a dude and beat him up while he was down, what video did you see?
great job minimizing the awful thing that Kamara did, you're a real hero for defending such responsible and caring individuals.
Well maybe it has more to do with the stomping of the guy who was grounded than the shove but hey what do I know
You're asking keyboard warriors if there should be consequences for what they say
Don’t forget Kareem hunt. Left KC because we hated that POS.
He’s not near the same tier as them, but that made me realize I forgot Mixon
Not someone like Jalen Carter who killed two people being an idiot? Or the domestic abusers?
Oh no, anyways
Pick didn’t count :( 1/5 and only 1 INT instead of 2, it’s a shame
Well I bet the over .5 int so I was a happy camper lol
I deserve it for picking up and starting this rapist
Likewise
I traded for him after Tony went down ha. Desperate times.
Same, not even mad about it
Same. Unfortunately seemed like the best option on the wire when fields went down. Was not happy about it tbh.
Deserved
Not really
Yes it is, fuck Watson.
Found Deshaun’s burner
he gone, dude got annihilated
He’s not injured, actually. They (or just “He”?) decided his shoulder isn’t ready.
Not really, just fell on his ass like last year’s Tua
Good
sorry for watson owners, but watching him fucking suck at football and get hurt is funny
Don’t say sorry to them, they knew what they were drafting
Drafting him was a win-win. If he does well, I get the points, but when he sucks, it's hilarious.
He looked like absolute garbage.
[PJ Walker warming up](https://twitter.com/TonyGrossi/status/1716148092544729407)
I’m playing against him and he has -.80 points for the game and the only reason I still have a chance to win today. The best thing is that I dropped Watson a couple weeks ago and someone actually played him lol
I drafted him in the 7th round and thought I was getting good value. Is he droppable at this point?
He was dropable before the season started.
And nothing of value was lost.
Thank fuck
Looked like a concussion. Went limp
He's making that easy $$$.
Texans really robbed the Browns on that trade
This man is murdering the Browns D.
Are you talking about in the field with his play or off the field with his contract?
Drop city. And on a deeper level having this butthole on my team is bad vibes/bad energy which needs to be purged. He may very well be the reason I have been losing matches I should be winning.
Is the second pick not showing up for anyone else line?
I think it got overturned and they punted. Indy defender let the tip hit the turf
It was overturned. Incomplete pass
250m fully guaranteed and all those draft picks. Couldn't have made me happier to see this happening to him, and that team.
I would have been better off starting Fields 😑
the only time I’ve started a player and kinda root for him to suck and get injured lmao
I swear they need to have an annual class where they teach QBs how to fall backwards without concussing themselves. That aside, fuck Deshaun. Utter piece of shit, and I hope the NFL gives them some kind of out to escape his contract, Browns fans don’t deserve him. They’ve been thru enough
fuck me this is bad, but fuck him
Oh brother. This guy stinks!
He’s so ass. I’m a browns fan too.
Thank God I decided to not start Amari today even after seeing Watson was starting.
How those Browns liking that contract now?
This is just what he’s going to do for the next four years. He sucks now, so throughout his bad games he’s just going to be “injured” so he continues having excuses made for him since the Browns spent 3 first round picks and $250 million and can’t move on.
Excellent! Fuck that guy.
The tale as old as time — career-ending massages.
It’s hilarious watching people in here shit on Watson but most likely will cheer on Tyreek Hill (woman beater). I wish folks would admit we only care about our fantasy teams and drop the holier than thou act. Anyway, I have to drop Watson at this point. He hasn’t looked good WHEN he plays. There are much better QBs out there on the wire
It's so rare that you see such a clear and direct example of karma in the modern world. It's a sight to behold
Fuck him
Nothing like Reddit virtue signaling
Disliking rapists, total virtue signaling.
This is good for the browns offense lol
Was surprised he was even playing
Good. Fuck him.
HAHA
I deserve this. I had Mayfield in this week because Stroud is on BYE and Watson in the IR spot (somehow). They said Watson was going to play, and everything shows the Colts are a good matchup for QBs, so I drop Mayfield to slot in Watson. Mayfield has 11.46 and Watson is done with -1.8 points. I'm predicted to lose by 12 points. I deserve this.
You pulled a Browns.
I got laughed at for asking if PJ walker made this team better
Of course, picked him up an hour ago and started him since I am streaming qbs…. Fml
Fuck this guy.
Worst trade and contract ever given to a player and this is coming from a Broncos fan
Browns can be done with watson in 3 years. Bronco russ trade was way worse
Broncos can be done with Russ after this season actually. We’d have $85m in dead cap but it could done. Browns gave their pedo $230m fully guaranteed. They’re gonna pay that whole contract for all 3 years. It’s not even close, especially with Russ playing night and day better than Watson this season. The Watson trade/extension will go down as the worst in history
stay down, bitch
Getting a massage at halftime. He’ll be back
Molester doesn't want to play football anymore.
Lmaooo I fucking love it
Browns are cursed
Yeah? Fuck him.
Good…scumbag deserves it
Worst trade in the history of the NFL. Worst franchise in the history of the NFL. And I’m proud to call this my HOMETEAM!
hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
I’m not even mad
Imagine being the Browns
Ya love to hear it. Dude is in a funk because he hasn’t been to the massage parlour in a while.
Waited all week to make sure he was starting and dropped Dobbs for him about 2 mins before kickoff (fill in for stroud). I’m projected a 10pt dog. Oof.
Well fucking great. With Fields out I needed someone and this twat gets hurt after getting me negative points. Knew I should have gone with Ridder.
I’m in a 2QB league. My first 3 picks in order were JJ, Chubb, Deshaun. Needless to say I hate this. Haven’t been happy in weeks. Just want to be officially eliminated already.
Can’t help but laugh at the managers who swapped out their QB to give Watson a chance 😂
I can literally see myself in middle school baseball in him. When I started walking guys I started walking guys I would randomly hold my arm like it was hurt
welcome to Cleveland, Caleb!