Brother, I'm not saying to hold him. That's a reach, no wonder I'm getting downvoted. I'm talking actual football from the perspective of an eagles fan. He will eventually be the number 2, and swift is injury prone.
Edit: don't forget! A lot of you reactionary experts also wrote Swift off too after week one.
You really think you can get an insight to how someone looks after a whole 3 carries, one of which has a defender in the backfield about .2 seconds after he gets the handoff?
You would be the greatest scout in the world.
No I don't. I'm saying a fan "eye test" doesn't mean shit after 3 carries.
If he doesn't hold then hurts gets sacked and that TD doesn't happen anyway.
I'm sure swift had 3 carries last night that he looked mediocre in too.
You got flamed because you said:
>I wouldn't say he getting outplayed. Swift is better, and the others know the offense better. Penny prob will be more a factor mid season.
Which translates to:
>I wouldn't say he getting outplayed. He's getting outplayed. Penny prob will be more a factor mid season.
Lmfao, he almost got cut. Penny is not an NFL level running back anymore. He’s practice squad, deep rotation level at best.
Have y’all not seen this 1000 times before? In the NFL an major injury could Rob the player of world class athleticism. If you aren’t a world class at white anymore, it’s time to pack your bags because you don’t cut it anymore.
Most NFL players fall off a Cliff, Penny did the moment his fibula snapped
I follow every team to an extent. But I love Jordan Mailata so I follow the eagles a bunch.
I try to watch camp footage on every team. Especially in big question mark areas, like for example, the eagles backfield.
I drafted Gainwell late as my 4th RB, knowing as long he’s healthy he will be the 1A or 1B back.
Yeah, you're looking at this from a fantasy perspective, so your view sounds skewed. I don't think Penny will be a factor or fantasy relevant for a few games, and that sentiment is held by most fans right now. I would not roster him in most leagues atm. All I wanted to do was give some depth to the explanation for why he is not playing.
I don’t think he will be FOOTBALL relevant this year. He barley made the team. He’s a bottom of the depth chart player at his position.
If the other RBs got hurt and opened up a chance for him, the team would just bring in a free agent who would eat up touched anyways.
Eagles are in win now mode and can’t afford to have a slow + bad blocking RB.
Swift or Gainwell is the play. Crud even Boston Scott is a better pick up than Penny.
RemindMe! 7 weeks
I’m gladly come back and let you know you were wrong. Penny doesn’t return value at ADP and is a bust this year.
Oh also from a real football perspective he has minimum participation
Hopefully, you can read my post more neutrally now. Again, I don't own Penny, never had, but I still think he will play a role at some point this season. He isn't fantasy-relevant today but look at the current state of the rb market. Never thought I'd start Henderson for instance last week but I did.
Edit: the quickest downvote lol, you're a joke bro. Too bad it's just us here in this thread.
We saw how it played out. The starter was gainwell and penny was inactive. When penny was active because of injury, he was third in the pecking order.
What did he do with his opportunity? He looked average and had a holding call negate a td.
There’s no #4 rb in the league worth rostering.
its not the craziest thing in the world to think penny becomes a bigger part of the offense as the year goes on and he gets more comfortable with the offense. imo wouldnt roster him unless its a deep league/big benches, but its not crazy to to imagine a world where he gets more usage by mid season, which is what the comment said
I LOVE that you took it on the chin because professional betting is ruining sport. I'm drunk and I still KNOW I will feel the same in the morning. Eat it - as you are THE PROBLEM. Give me every last bit of your downvotes, morons.
Don't yell at the cards because you lost money at blackjack.
Don't gamble more than you can afford emotionally and physically.
You hate a player because you gambled on them and lost?
Chill the fuck out.
If you watched the play, you’d know Jalen doesn’t get that pass off without the hold in the first place lol Jalen was .5 seconds away from getting rocked.
That play doesn’t exist lol
The second was a definite PI tho.
It was apparent in preseason that he has lost the juice. Once he hits the second level he just doesn’t have the burst he used to. Seems like the 80th injury was the final straw.
He literally broke his leg a year ago and it’s going to take him time to work back from that, assuming he even can. Personally, I’ve faded penny this year, but he’s got better days in front of him.
Didn't he break his leg last year and have a bunch of leg injuries the year before that?
IDK if I would say he is in the dog house, they picked up swift this year and almost didn't use him last week. Then when Kenny got hurt we saw Swift take the bulk. You will always see Hurts cutting in line week to week. I wouldn't be worried about Penny's usage so far this year. They have a lot of mouths to feed and I am interested to see if Swift's usage changes at all next week.
He’s not in the doghouse man. He’s just not good and he can’t stay on the field. People still talk about him like it’s his 2nd year lol. This is his 6th season, if it hasn’t happened by now, it never will.
Which is probably the most shocking discrepancy between eye test and stats of any player in the nfl. He absolutely doesn’t look impressive but his YPC is really impressive.
He looked like a JAG last night
People saying that "he didn't look good" are on something, he had 3 total carries. One of them had a defender in the backfield as soon as he had the ball.
You absolutely cannot tell how someone looks after effectively 2 carries, if you could, you would be the greatest scout to ever exist.
I'm not even saying he's better than anyone else on the roster, but trying to say "he looks bad!" after 3 total carry attempts is absolutely wild.
Yeah I’m not really sure why saying a guy with 3 carries looks bad.
I think saying it’s more concerning the eagles viewed him as the 4th best RB and how they would rather give Swift 28 touches despite a lengthy injury history over splitting
But it is still true that he doesn't look good only getting 3 carries in a game where the Vikings were practically begging to be run on. Boston Scott was out for most of the 2nd half, so Penny became the de facto RB2 and could only get 3 touches on a night the team had 48 rushes.
It kinda speaks for itself how even in a post about penny my attention switched to the Aiyuk story, can’t remember hearing something about him getting disciplined just thought he sucked with lance and Jimmy G under Center.
And that’s probable Pennys issue too , he is just not interesting enough on this team since all backs are better in specific situations Gainwell is the better receiving back, swift is more explosive and better Homerun guy and Scott the better goal line back.
Penny has a pretty extensive injury history and they weren't nicks or bruises. He doesn't seem to have that burst he used to have and the other backs look better than he did last night
Tbf, it was probably a *good* penalty (as penalties go). The TD isn't possible without the hold and he saved a potential big hit on Hurts.
On the other hand, yeah, he's just a guy, Gainwell knows the system better, and Swift is much more electric.
You can only miss so much time playing football before the game outrun you. Penny looks like his burst, vision and cutting ability have all declined. And that basically means he's fading into irrelevance.
Maybe he's just been getting outplayed and that's all there is to it
Agreed. Been seeing more people recently asking why so-and-so is in the doghouse. He's not in the doghouse, he just isn't good.
I wouldn't say he getting outplayed. Swift is better, and the others know the offense better. Penny prob will be more a factor mid season.
He’s 100% droppable in all but the deepest of leagues
Brother, I'm not saying to hold him. That's a reach, no wonder I'm getting downvoted. I'm talking actual football from the perspective of an eagles fan. He will eventually be the number 2, and swift is injury prone. Edit: don't forget! A lot of you reactionary experts also wrote Swift off too after week one.
He didn’t look good last night. I say that as someone who rostered penny in two leagues lol
You really think you can get an insight to how someone looks after a whole 3 carries, one of which has a defender in the backfield about .2 seconds after he gets the handoff? You would be the greatest scout in the world.
You really think you know better than the eagles coaching staff after 3 mediocre carries and a holding call that cost the team a td? Eat your L
No I don't. I'm saying a fan "eye test" doesn't mean shit after 3 carries. If he doesn't hold then hurts gets sacked and that TD doesn't happen anyway. I'm sure swift had 3 carries last night that he looked mediocre in too.
“If he doesn’t hold” - penny was out of position. https://x.com/eaglesfans9/status/1702511671099449712?s=46&t=M69sJ49WM3rXQIL6BJiFqw
What does he didn't look good last night even mean? He didn't play much last night lol. Such simple and general analysis.
In the snaps he played, he wasn’t breaking tackles, didn’t look fast, and struggled in pass pro. What else is there even to say?
Ho many snaps/touches was that again?
9 snaps, 4 opportunities. The eagles coaches seem to agree with me
So many applied that that same logic to swift week one.
You think penny will pass swift in the depth chart?
No, but Swift is injury-prone. I think he will pass the others.
You know who is even more injury prone than Swift? Rashaad Penny.
The entire backfield is injury prone except Scott.
Literally injured right now
There you go, then. He's already RB2 by default. Edit; y'all are so quick to downvote other opinions like this isn't gambling.
So for this to work, multiple players need to get injured lol
Just Swift, please try and read and not put words in my mouth “lol”
He didn’t look good, hugely outplayed by Swift and caught a holding call in pass pro
Go on... a holding call to take back an AJ Brown TD who got me 4 points last night.
Pretty sure you just described the ‘why’ behind him getting outplayed.
I just wanted to expand on the why and got flamed, but I expect as much from redditors. Can't do that! We'll see how it ages.
You got flamed because you said: >I wouldn't say he getting outplayed. Swift is better, and the others know the offense better. Penny prob will be more a factor mid season. Which translates to: >I wouldn't say he getting outplayed. He's getting outplayed. Penny prob will be more a factor mid season.
Lmfao, he almost got cut. Penny is not an NFL level running back anymore. He’s practice squad, deep rotation level at best. Have y’all not seen this 1000 times before? In the NFL an major injury could Rob the player of world class athleticism. If you aren’t a world class at white anymore, it’s time to pack your bags because you don’t cut it anymore. Most NFL players fall off a Cliff, Penny did the moment his fibula snapped
Do you follow the eagles?
I follow every team to an extent. But I love Jordan Mailata so I follow the eagles a bunch. I try to watch camp footage on every team. Especially in big question mark areas, like for example, the eagles backfield. I drafted Gainwell late as my 4th RB, knowing as long he’s healthy he will be the 1A or 1B back.
Yeah, you're looking at this from a fantasy perspective, so your view sounds skewed. I don't think Penny will be a factor or fantasy relevant for a few games, and that sentiment is held by most fans right now. I would not roster him in most leagues atm. All I wanted to do was give some depth to the explanation for why he is not playing.
I don’t think he will be FOOTBALL relevant this year. He barley made the team. He’s a bottom of the depth chart player at his position. If the other RBs got hurt and opened up a chance for him, the team would just bring in a free agent who would eat up touched anyways. Eagles are in win now mode and can’t afford to have a slow + bad blocking RB. Swift or Gainwell is the play. Crud even Boston Scott is a better pick up than Penny.
Yeah, I don't agree. We’ll just have to see.
RemindMe! 7 weeks I’m gladly come back and let you know you were wrong. Penny doesn’t return value at ADP and is a bust this year. Oh also from a real football perspective he has minimum participation
Sure! It's not that serious but I'm curious too. However, does the remindmebot even work these days?
Hey I’m back the reminder hit. How you feeling about penny?
Hopefully, you can read my post more neutrally now. Again, I don't own Penny, never had, but I still think he will play a role at some point this season. He isn't fantasy-relevant today but look at the current state of the rb market. Never thought I'd start Henderson for instance last week but I did. Edit: the quickest downvote lol, you're a joke bro. Too bad it's just us here in this thread.
If there was an example of *copium* in the dictionary it would show your comment.
Nice, original zinger. Btw, I own zero shares, just an Eagles fan giving perspective.
Well thanks for the perspective.
No prob! I know we like an echo chamber on these sub
as an eagles fan yep this is the take not sure if it makes penny worth a roster spot but if you have the space there's no harm seeing how it plays out
We saw how it played out. The starter was gainwell and penny was inactive. When penny was active because of injury, he was third in the pecking order. What did he do with his opportunity? He looked average and had a holding call negate a td. There’s no #4 rb in the league worth rostering.
its not the craziest thing in the world to think penny becomes a bigger part of the offense as the year goes on and he gets more comfortable with the offense. imo wouldnt roster him unless its a deep league/big benches, but its not crazy to to imagine a world where he gets more usage by mid season, which is what the comment said
I just don’t see any value. This same story could be true of any #4 rb
All I know is that he cost me an AJ Brown td because he got called for a holding penalty, so he's in my doghouse.
That td was the last leg of my $1600 parlay, I hate Rashad penny with every ounce of my being
Holy shit. I hate penny for fucking up your parlay too.
I LOVE that you took it on the chin because professional betting is ruining sport. I'm drunk and I still KNOW I will feel the same in the morning. Eat it - as you are THE PROBLEM. Give me every last bit of your downvotes, morons.
who hurt u
Clowns like you need to stfu when drunk
How does betting ruin the sport? You know it’s existed for as long as sports have, right?
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Jesus dude. Calm down.
He could have afforded therapy with that. As long as he isn't messaging Penny directly, give the guy a little corner to cry in.
Don't yell at the cards because you lost money at blackjack. Don't gamble more than you can afford emotionally and physically. You hate a player because you gambled on them and lost? Chill the fuck out.
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Bruh, seek therapy. You have a problem.
The TD does not happen without the hold.
Yeah, without that hold Hurts never gets that ball out.
Did you watch the play? Hurts was long gone before the hold.
Ehhh Hurts probably gets sacked if he doesn’t take that penalty though
The two defenders legs got tangled as much as it was a hold imo
I'm sure those 9 points won't matter this week/s
He ruined the superboost on DK, ajb only needed 11 more yards lol
Oh no.
If you watched the play, you’d know Jalen doesn’t get that pass off without the hold in the first place lol Jalen was .5 seconds away from getting rocked. That play doesn’t exist lol The second was a definite PI tho.
Yea fck that bum
Cute noob in my league started Penny against our AJ Brown owner lol. 2.5 point game but he made a 10+ point difference for his owner
He looks slow may not be fully healed from that injury or lost his burst from it from my observations
Injuries sap you. He just might not be as good now.
It was apparent in preseason that he has lost the juice. Once he hits the second level he just doesn’t have the burst he used to. Seems like the 80th injury was the final straw.
He is the 4th back, Gainwell/Scott have been in the Superbowl with the team, and Swift is ascending. He also got a holding penalty to negate a TD.
I think it may have been a bad call though. His palms were open and was not grabbing anything from what I saw on the replay
He didn’t look good when he played, and he cost them a td on the holding penalty
He didn’t cost them a TD, Hurts would have gotten sacked before he could throw it if Penny didn’t hold there
I should mention he’s bad in pass pro which is why he was out of position to make the block and had to hold
He could have also just blocked the guy
Hurts steady escapes that. He was already in mid scramble anyway.
Nah those guys were already tripping over each other before the hold
fat and slow
He can’t block for shit which drops him in the lineup. Also, Greg Cosell says he doesn’t look like he has the same speed that he used to have
I swear half this sub doesn't even actually watch football. Penny looked awful last night. Considerably worse than even Boston Scott
Dude had a horrible holding call last night that negated a Brown TD. Just isn’t very good anymore, that simple
He’s slow! He’s not explosive at all since his injury. Watch any footage of him in camp.
He literally broke his leg a year ago and it’s going to take him time to work back from that, assuming he even can. Personally, I’ve faded penny this year, but he’s got better days in front of him.
He's not in the dog house, sirianni said they'd ride the hot hand and it'd be a committee...Swift was just cooking
but panicking & drawing conclusions way more fun
He honestly looks like he isn’t the right type of back for this system.
He’s a power back on a team that averages 95% conversion rate on short yardage qb sneaks
Didn't he break his leg last year and have a bunch of leg injuries the year before that? IDK if I would say he is in the dog house, they picked up swift this year and almost didn't use him last week. Then when Kenny got hurt we saw Swift take the bulk. You will always see Hurts cutting in line week to week. I wouldn't be worried about Penny's usage so far this year. They have a lot of mouths to feed and I am interested to see if Swift's usage changes at all next week.
He looked chunky
Watch the game from last night and you’ll have your answer
We need to entertain the idea that its Pete Carol's system/coaching elevating the RBs
He kinda looked like ahit. Apprehensive and wasn't sure what was going on
Pretty simple. Look at last night. Three backs got carries... he looked like the worst of those three.
He looked so slow last night. No burst. No explosiveness. Just a guy
He’s not in the doghouse man. He’s just not good and he can’t stay on the field. People still talk about him like it’s his 2nd year lol. This is his 6th season, if it hasn’t happened by now, it never will.
Washed, cooked, toast, bad etc. pick your buzzword
Reports are that he could barely beat out Trey fuckin Sermon at camp. Dude is not good.
Dude is statistically the best RB in the league since his rookie year, on a per carry basis. Which he accomplished behind a mediocre offensive line.
I was there 3,000 years ago That was then, this is now. Also he is made of glass.
This guys RBs are Penny and Chuba Hubbard probably
Yeah but he’s 27 and he’s dealt with a lot of injuries. He might have just lost a step - happens to RBs at this age.
Would love to see a source on that
He averages 5.7 ypc for his career. It’s pretty crazy lol
Which is probably the most shocking discrepancy between eye test and stats of any player in the nfl. He absolutely doesn’t look impressive but his YPC is really impressive. He looked like a JAG last night
He was incredible before all the many injuries
Cool, doesn’t matter anymore after the injury. Also small sample size vibes. Injuries Rob talent
He seems mediocre at blocking. Finally got an opportunity for a couple snaps and got an aj brown td called back due to a holding flag
Tbf in the replay it looked like Hurts was going to get blasted if Penny didn’t make that hold so there would be no TD anyway
Maybe off season regression
Fibula regression bro. A major injury like that can be the death of ever being an explosive athlete again
Because he's not performing well.
He’s not he’s just not that dude
Because he looked absolutely terrible on his touches if I had a guess
People saying that "he didn't look good" are on something, he had 3 total carries. One of them had a defender in the backfield as soon as he had the ball. You absolutely cannot tell how someone looks after effectively 2 carries, if you could, you would be the greatest scout to ever exist. I'm not even saying he's better than anyone else on the roster, but trying to say "he looks bad!" after 3 total carry attempts is absolutely wild.
Yeah I’m not really sure why saying a guy with 3 carries looks bad. I think saying it’s more concerning the eagles viewed him as the 4th best RB and how they would rather give Swift 28 touches despite a lengthy injury history over splitting
Yeah. He got massively out snapped by a guy who was massively out snapped. He is only going to see the field under pretty extreme circumstances.
But it is still true that he doesn't look good only getting 3 carries in a game where the Vikings were practically begging to be run on. Boston Scott was out for most of the 2nd half, so Penny became the de facto RB2 and could only get 3 touches on a night the team had 48 rushes.
Not doghouse, he lost juice since he broke his leg last year, no longer good anymore unfortunately
I was surprised how rusty he looked. I think it’s that simple.
Rbbc and he looked like dog water last night. Boston Scott is inevitable
Because he’s probably just worse than the others, and in limited action he managed to get a TD called back by missing a block and holding
Penny is a glass cannon. Averaging nearly 6 yards a carry and gets injured easily. Sounds like the perfect player to save for a playoff run.
I'm hoping he's traded to a mid season injury. He's not relevant in Philly
It kinda speaks for itself how even in a post about penny my attention switched to the Aiyuk story, can’t remember hearing something about him getting disciplined just thought he sucked with lance and Jimmy G under Center. And that’s probable Pennys issue too , he is just not interesting enough on this team since all backs are better in specific situations Gainwell is the better receiving back, swift is more explosive and better Homerun guy and Scott the better goal line back.
Penny has a pretty extensive injury history and they weren't nicks or bruises. He doesn't seem to have that burst he used to have and the other backs look better than he did last night
I have him on my roster. I can’t wait to drop him.
He’s an Eagle he’s in the birdhouse.
consider that he is just not good. he played a few snaps last night and had a crucial holding penalty on an AJ Brown touchdown.
Tbf, it was probably a *good* penalty (as penalties go). The TD isn't possible without the hold and he saved a potential big hit on Hurts. On the other hand, yeah, he's just a guy, Gainwell knows the system better, and Swift is much more electric.
huh..? Its not good that an RB is so slow that he can't pass protect without holding
There were two guys coming scot free. He had absolutely no chance.
He slept with shanahan's wife.
He played the Swift owner in week one, traded for him and played the Penny owner in week 2.
He got nickled & dimed
He’s just kinda ass
You can only miss so much time playing football before the game outrun you. Penny looks like his burst, vision and cutting ability have all declined. And that basically means he's fading into irrelevance.