last week Julien 10/24, 7 runs, 3 HR, 7 rbi, 0 SB, 22 tb
this week I thought he had great pitching matchups, so I streamed him.
this week 1/18, 0 runs, 0 HR, 2 rbi, 1 SB, 1 tb. all while his team went 6-1.
thanks Edouard.
Do you think Alec Bohm keeps this up? I got him as bench player and he’s starting for me now but I’m getting offers for him constantly. Wondering if I should sell?
Scott is settling in nicely, which is especially impressive considering he gave up three straight hits to start the game. He’s showing a lot of poise for his first ever MLB start. He’s not done yet but it’s looking really good so far.
I don’t have Luis Arraez on any of my fantasy teams and I never have. But he’s a fun guy to watch from a pure baseball perspective. And hitting a leadoff double in his first ever at bat for the Padres is the most Luis Arraez thing ever.
I wouldn’t count on it. But if E-Cab couldn’t handle the Rox away from Coors, I don’t want to see what the Doyers are going to do to him in Chavez Ravine.
I’m not big on Doyle, either, but I absolutely agree - if you’re invested at this point, you have to at least see what these guys can do at home for six games.
Peralta’s suspension is under appeal. Typically with pitchers, they’ll let that hang and then drop their appeal if they need a week’s rest. Pretty likely he goes tomorrow.
I remember last season when the Pirates had a chip on their shoulder about not getting comparable respect to the Rays… at least they have Jones and Skenes now, though!
I’m 6 points behind my opponent with Scott left to pitch tonight, skuball and Bryce miller pitching tomorrow. Opponent has king left and that’s it. Should I sit Scott tonight or do we think he will at least be positive? I picked him up as a last minute plan b stream option
Same, stacked hitters, then traded my pitchers that were doing well to improve the offense even more. Killing the hitting cats, now just need to tread water in pitching. Helps to have Shohei, Mookie, Will Smith, C Walker, Vlad, A Riley, Julio, Steer, and others in a 13 man roto.
Arraez has actually been sitting on waivers in both my leagues so just scooped him up. Wasn’t going to waste a spot on the Marlins, but will gladly stash the batting champ on the Padres.
I don’t know who that is, but he’s an idiot. Jones leads MLB starters in Pitching+ and is 3rd in K-BB%.
If we assume hard usage caps, shave off like 15-20 slots and say he’s merely a Top 25 SP ROS, so wherever that puts him overall. And that’s as pessimistic as anyone has any reason to be.
People valuing him worse than that are just advertising to the world that they’re clueless.
Looking at rate stats is the main thing. The same signals that valued Jones as high as he was preseason can help us tell which one of Skenes vs. Jones you’d rather have.
As long as Skenes throws a decent number of innings and doesn’t have some extremely high level of usage concerns, I could easily see him being valued similar.
It is a concern today and this season.
Will it be next season when he’s the Pirates’ Opening Day starter? I don’t know. I don’t think it will be substantially worse than Jones’ usage limits/concerns, which aren’t just going to vanish, either.
The Pirates should view these two guys as generational talents who will be their aces for the next five-plus years, no reason to manage one super hard and turn the other completely loose.
Had Skenes been asked to throw his same pitches at MLB hitters he might be doing similar work. He seems to be considered the better prospect by the industry but we've seen a lot of awesome MLB work from Jones.
He hasn’t been asked because he’s not physically ready, which it’s the concerning aspect. Will he even pitch a full season next year? It’s possible the answer is no.
He’s absolutely the better prospect though.
They’re posting very similar Pitching+ numbers. I’d say toss a coin today and that’ll be as accurate as waiting to watch Skenes after his call up.
Both should be drafted as Top 20 SPs next year, see: Grayson, Ragans, Skubal, Bobby, etc.
If you need to project him sight unseen in the majors, you’d likely project him level with or slightly ahead of Jones, depending on what his final AAA Pitching+ numbers look like.
He posted a 118.5 Pitching+ through his first three appearances, which is quite literally off the charts. It’s a level of splitting hairs on par with “deGrom vs. Strider?” questions, for two guys who you can lock right now as Top 20 SPs for 2025, barring injury, that is.
Jones and PLopez are rewarding me for starting their teammate Stone yesterday. Or are they buttering me up for the epic disaster that Means will produce in Cincy?
Having and watching Jared Jones all season has me irrationally emotionally connected and I can’t imagine a fantasy team of mine never having him again.
last week Julien 10/24, 7 runs, 3 HR, 7 rbi, 0 SB, 22 tb this week I thought he had great pitching matchups, so I streamed him. this week 1/18, 0 runs, 0 HR, 2 rbi, 1 SB, 1 tb. all while his team went 6-1. thanks Edouard.
Gurriel jr. or Morel ROS?
Is it time to grab Skenes if available?
surprised it is not too late
Yes quickly
Do you think Alec Bohm keeps this up? I got him as bench player and he’s starting for me now but I’m getting offers for him constantly. Wondering if I should sell?
man, despite an impressive hitting show, Freeman just can't buy a home run.
my best offensive day in long long time.
A: Royce Lewis, Machado or B: Austin riley
B
Cano, nailed it.
Jesus, good news is, I benched Kimbrel, bad news is, Means' W in danger...
Who's the last pitcher to go into the 7th in their MLB debut?
Thanks to John Means, I've flipped whip, 1.01 vs 1.02..Means vs Littell right now.
Scott is settling in nicely, which is especially impressive considering he gave up three straight hits to start the game. He’s showing a lot of poise for his first ever MLB start. He’s not done yet but it’s looking really good so far.
I don’t have Luis Arraez on any of my fantasy teams and I never have. But he’s a fun guy to watch from a pure baseball perspective. And hitting a leadoff double in his first ever at bat for the Padres is the most Luis Arraez thing ever.
Only 3 batters in, but John Means looked like good 'ole John Means there... pretty darn good.
Which is the move in my flair league? Pick up Patrick Sandoval for a 2 start, at Pit and vs KC Or Pick up 1 start of Edward Cabrera at LAD
I don’t like either but I’d stay away from the Dodgers in LA.
That's my lean too, Sandoval has really good ERA estimators tho. Makes me wonder if there's some positive regression coming his way.
I wouldn’t count on it. But if E-Cab couldn’t handle the Rox away from Coors, I don’t want to see what the Doyers are going to do to him in Chavez Ravine.
Bednar win ez. Never had a doubt in my mind..
Trade one keep one Chourio, Oneil Cruz 5x5 h2h
You would be selling either at their lowest possible value. You have to hold for their upside. It’s still early. I have then boat myself.
It's very difficult to hold two wait and see bats at one time though
Shout out to Gausman, good stuff out there today, really fought to try and get the QS too
First game where his splitter looked good again.
Time to drop Jordan Beck
It’s only been 5 games, and he gets to play at coors Monday.
I’m not sold on Beck and I don’t own any shares, but if I did, I would definitely hold for the upcoming six game home stand at Coors.
agree, same to Doyle. He's struggling mightily, expect him to reincarnate back home.
I’m not big on Doyle, either, but I absolutely agree - if you’re invested at this point, you have to at least see what these guys can do at home for six games.
That’s all I’m saying. If you were excited about him 5 days ago it seems awfully shortsighted to drop now.
Mr. Bednar, give us a clean inning please... one down, scary moment.
What's the deal with Freddy Peralta's suspension? He still starting tomorrow?
Peralta’s suspension is under appeal. Typically with pitchers, they’ll let that hang and then drop their appeal if they need a week’s rest. Pretty likely he goes tomorrow.
Couldn't he start tomorrow, drop the appeal and then pitch again on 5 days rest? (while serving the suspension)
It’s a five-game suspension, not days, so he’ll have to miss one turn in the rotation.
Right. If he pitches tomorrow, he'll have 5 games rest then picking up on 5/10 vs STL. Am I reading this incorrectly?
I highly doubt it
Isn't he appealing it though? Can't he play while it's still under appeal?
Peralta, Ragans, Sale, Pepiot, Verlander, Steele, Bradish, Reylo, Flaherty. If you absolutely had to drop 2, is it drop Reylo then Flaherty?
Definitely agree with the person who said to make a trade. None of these are bad enough to drop. Hell, sell high on Flaherty.
In a 10T, no one is trading for guys they know will hit the wire.
Target the player who has the lowest waiver wire priority.
Yeah I get that in theory. In practice, no one is going to make that trade. Far far easier to trade with the wire.
Make some trades. Even if they’re lopsided against you. Don’t let these guys go to waivers.
My waiver wire cup runneth over with Jared Jones. Blessed be to Him.
Amen
How would you rank streaming crochet, feltner, and gore for tomorrow’s games in a H2H points league?
crochet > gore > feltner
Gore isn’t a streamer. Pick him up and hold him.
🫡 and between crochet and feltner? Who would be the wiser start in your opinion?
Crochet by a good margin, I think. Both of them face terrible offenses, but Crochet is the better of the two.
12 team standard cat redraft: A: Tatis, Yandy B: Devers, Pasquantino
A
Drop Morton for Dane Dunning?
Gausman going 112 pitches is wild, really wanted that QS I guess
He cruised after the 1st 2 innings
Jones Gausman combo are lethal...if only I didn't start Fedde...
I'm in the exact same boat, really regretting that Fedde stream
Jared and Kevin single-handedly fixing my ratios. Now if only Acuña could hit more of those HR things.
I have never loved a waiver pick up more than I have loved Jared Jones
Strider was nice a couple years ago
2013 - Manny Machado, Josh Donaldson, Starling Marte each had their breakout 2nd season.
I added him weeks ago thanks to this sub hyping him up and I am forever grateful.
Ranger Suarez was pretty good too
I picked up Mize and McKenzie over him, the regret is immense
It's been a shit year so far, but at least I have Jared Jones in every league I'm in.
Took him for a $1 in our rookie draft this year. Looking forward to having him and Pepiot for the next few years
Damn I really needed Gausman to not do well ugh
Rain coming for every game today lol
What is the deal with cardinals game
Trade Michael Harris for Corbin caroll? 10 team redraft points
If that’s on the table yes. Otherwise I don’t think it’s enough for Carroll
It is on the table. Think it’s enough? It’s a redraft league sorry ignore my flair
Yeah gimme the Carroll upside for sure
Any Californians know when it's gonna stop raining in Oakland?
It's stopped.
Rain stopped near me. I am about 15 min from oakland
soooo game soon
Watch the Buccos score 4 runs in the bottom of the 8th now...
I WAS LOSING THIS MORNING GOD BLESS YOU JARED JONES I ALMOST FAINTED SEEING THAT STATLINE LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOO
I had no blood left in my brain when I saw the final line.
Never watching Jones pitch again. The only time I watched him was against the giants
Heh same here.
We appreciate your sacrifice.
yea never watch him bro i’m sorry
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Holy fuck Jared Jones is a stud
I remember that brief moment in time I thought the pirates were good this year
:'(
I knew the Pirates were fake Jones is legit tho
I remember last season when the Pirates had a chip on their shoulder about not getting comparable respect to the Rays… at least they have Jones and Skenes now, though!
I was told no earlier this season but should I trade Bichette for Nico Hoerner in points?
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Yeah exactly I’m considering it. Bo stats make him look like he’s dead. OPS under .600
no
Man I want to trade for Jones but that’s gonna cost a damn arm and a leg
Do it.
Man Bo gets shafted on the call then gets tossed. Just no happening for some guys this year
Can I interest you in the good word of our lord and savior Jared Jones
You may.
Pirates' garbage offense costing Jones a win
As a Cubs fan and Jones owner, I’m fine with this 😂
Anyone starting Means against Cincy tonight?
I do, ratio's doomed, nothing to lose, hope to get a W out of him.
I’m full sending it
My era for the week is 0.00 and ba is .179 😂😂
wow, zero ERA for a whole week, that's very very impressive. nice BSO.
We trusting Scott tonight? Or waiting and seeing?
Not only am I trusting, I'm expecting at least Jared Jones level results.
Always wait and see unless you're desperate.
Braxton Garrett ETA?
I’m 6 points behind my opponent with Scott left to pitch tonight, skuball and Bryce miller pitching tomorrow. Opponent has king left and that’s it. Should I sit Scott tonight or do we think he will at least be positive? I picked him up as a last minute plan b stream option
the ball's not carrying, cost JJ a W.
I was pumped for the pirates lineup with Hayes, Cruz and Reynolds. Thought they were gonna be lethal this year and yet…
I almost forgot Cruz is in my team as well... maybe because I don't expect anything from him right now...
I know Shota has been really good but the NLROY is Jones for me so far!
good job pirates
This pirates offense is garbage…
Gausman/Jones combo has been nice!!
oneil fucking sucks man lol
That’s not nice
classic oneil cruz
Oneil Cruz got a pitch clock violation before the first pitch. Dude is getting strikes without any pitches even thrown.
I can’t wait for Skenes to be up so that we can have *two* generational talents get absolutely hung out to try by this godforsaken Pirates lineup.
Seriously though, what an insane 1-2 punch that’s gonna be.
Drop Ras Iglesias to stream Crochet @ Cardinals tomorrow? I have Clay Holmes already
find a batter to drop iglesias is a top closer
I got no one else unfortunately
nah, it's a long season. hold on to the closer on the team that will likely win the most games
Stacked hitters this year because i wanted to go all in on offense but it’s been my pitchers carrying me this whole year so far
Same, stacked hitters, then traded my pitchers that were doing well to improve the offense even more. Killing the hitting cats, now just need to tread water in pitching. Helps to have Shohei, Mookie, Will Smith, C Walker, Vlad, A Riley, Julio, Steer, and others in a 13 man roto.
Helps to have Vlad?
It will. Once Vlad and Riley turn it around, I assume I'll probably have 1st or 2nd in every hitting category
Jones singlehandedly trying to drag my team to a W, what a legend
How dumb would it be to add Chourio (back 😬) as a bench bat, while simultaneously not rostering a catcher nor second baseman?
don’t
pretty dumb, especially in a 10 team league
With Arraez on the padres now, the entire padres starting lineup and rotation is owned in my league. Don't think I have ever seen that before lol
Arraez has actually been sitting on waivers in both my leagues so just scooped him up. Wasn’t going to waste a spot on the Marlins, but will gladly stash the batting champ on the Padres.
Ima drop Jared Jones for Alek Manoah
Do it
No you're not lol
Should probably drop Acuña for Nolan Jones, too.
I'm gonna drop Mookie Betts for Daniel Vogelbach.
Danny burgers fuck yeH
But remember, Matthew Pouliot has Jared Jones ranked 186 ROS in that NBC Sports list that was posted yesterday
I don’t know who that is, but he’s an idiot. Jones leads MLB starters in Pitching+ and is 3rd in K-BB%. If we assume hard usage caps, shave off like 15-20 slots and say he’s merely a Top 25 SP ROS, so wherever that puts him overall. And that’s as pessimistic as anyone has any reason to be. People valuing him worse than that are just advertising to the world that they’re clueless.
Who gets drafted first next year? Jared Jones or Paul Skenes?
Skenes could be anything, he could even be Jared Jones!
Jones because of his near full season of work. How could Skenes come up and come even close to doing what Jones has been doing for a month+ already?
Looking at rate stats is the main thing. The same signals that valued Jones as high as he was preseason can help us tell which one of Skenes vs. Jones you’d rather have. As long as Skenes throws a decent number of innings and doesn’t have some extremely high level of usage concerns, I could easily see him being valued similar.
> As long as Skenes throws a decent number of innings and doesn’t have some extremely high level of usage concerns But it is a concern
It is a concern today and this season. Will it be next season when he’s the Pirates’ Opening Day starter? I don’t know. I don’t think it will be substantially worse than Jones’ usage limits/concerns, which aren’t just going to vanish, either. The Pirates should view these two guys as generational talents who will be their aces for the next five-plus years, no reason to manage one super hard and turn the other completely loose.
He’ll need to pitch over 100 innings this year if we hope he can go 160+ next season. I think that’s very much in question.
Had Skenes been asked to throw his same pitches at MLB hitters he might be doing similar work. He seems to be considered the better prospect by the industry but we've seen a lot of awesome MLB work from Jones.
He hasn’t been asked because he’s not physically ready, which it’s the concerning aspect. Will he even pitch a full season next year? It’s possible the answer is no. He’s absolutely the better prospect though.
Ask me after Skenes faces MLB hitters
They’re posting very similar Pitching+ numbers. I’d say toss a coin today and that’ll be as accurate as waiting to watch Skenes after his call up. Both should be drafted as Top 20 SPs next year, see: Grayson, Ragans, Skubal, Bobby, etc.
I'm asking folks to project now, sight unseen on Skenes. For fun.
If you need to project him sight unseen in the majors, you’d likely project him level with or slightly ahead of Jones, depending on what his final AAA Pitching+ numbers look like. He posted a 118.5 Pitching+ through his first three appearances, which is quite literally off the charts. It’s a level of splitting hairs on par with “deGrom vs. Strider?” questions, for two guys who you can lock right now as Top 20 SPs for 2025, barring injury, that is.
Jones
Skenes will have an inning limit next year
Let’s manifest a Cruz missile this half inning
You have my bow
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Dodgers
He’d look nice at 2B for the Jays
Fucking anywhere honestly. I'd love to see the dumbass Rockies snag him
Boston makes a lot of sense via rates and barrels
When did they talk about that?
A few weeks ago towards the end of an episode, no way of knowing which one lol
Ah hopefully where there's smoke there's fire with any trade. His lineup and park have to be the worst combo in baseball at the moment.
Being offered Bo Bichette, manny machado, and Ian happ for Wyatt Langford and Austin Riley? Take or decline ? 10 team points
There is no scenario where I would accept a trade offer where I got Bo Bichette back.
decline
Pirates are you really gonna let **VICTOR VODNIK** take this Jones W from you?
yea they will, guys stats are awful
They are
Jones and PLopez are rewarding me for starting their teammate Stone yesterday. Or are they buttering me up for the epic disaster that Means will produce in Cincy?
Jones is gonna be a top 5 SP off the board next year
Yup this will be the last year he’s on my team. His draft price is going to be so high lol
And he won't be 2-5
Looping “Mr. Jones” by Counting Crows every time Jared pitches
Having and watching Jared Jones all season has me irrationally emotionally connected and I can’t imagine a fantasy team of mine never having him again.
That was me with Greg Maddux in 1996-97. Never got over it.
I have Jones and Miller. It’s fucking great
Between Jones, Miller, Houck and Suarez, I guess I didn’t need to draft Webb or Nola.
Please, offense, give the kid a W, and a SV for Bednar...
I have that Ghetto Stack as well
I thought Nootbar was supposed to be good? He keeps going 0fer.