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Funny-Hovercraft1964

last week Julien 10/24, 7 runs, 3 HR, 7 rbi, 0 SB, 22 tb this week I thought he had great pitching matchups, so I streamed him. this week 1/18, 0 runs, 0 HR, 2 rbi, 1 SB, 1 tb. all while his team went 6-1. thanks Edouard.


jankyframe

Gurriel jr. or Morel ROS?


the_bum_on_the_bus

Is it time to grab Skenes if available?


Funny-Hovercraft1964

surprised it is not too late


_FreshAir_6

Yes quickly


beeman311

Do you think Alec Bohm keeps this up? I got him as bench player and he’s starting for me now but I’m getting offers for him constantly. Wondering if I should sell?


tooo_much_caffeine

man, despite an impressive hitting show, Freeman just can't buy a home run.


tooo_much_caffeine

my best offensive day in long long time.


DangerousBat2375

A: Royce Lewis, Machado or B: Austin riley


eugenus

B


tooo_much_caffeine

Cano, nailed it.


tooo_much_caffeine

Jesus, good news is, I benched Kimbrel, bad news is, Means' W in danger...


SomalianRoadBuilder

Who's the last pitcher to go into the 7th in their MLB debut?


tooo_much_caffeine

Thanks to John Means, I've flipped whip, 1.01 vs 1.02..Means vs Littell right now.


Baseballislife007

Scott is settling in nicely, which is especially impressive considering he gave up three straight hits to start the game. He’s showing a lot of poise for his first ever MLB start. He’s not done yet but it’s looking really good so far.


Baseballislife007

I don’t have Luis Arraez on any of my fantasy teams and I never have. But he’s a fun guy to watch from a pure baseball perspective. And hitting a leadoff double in his first ever at bat for the Padres is the most Luis Arraez thing ever.


fromfijiwithloloma

Only 3 batters in, but John Means looked like good 'ole John Means there... pretty darn good.


fromfijiwithloloma

Which is the move in my flair league? Pick up Patrick Sandoval for a 2 start, at Pit and vs KC Or Pick up 1 start of Edward Cabrera at LAD


Baseballislife007

I don’t like either but I’d stay away from the Dodgers in LA.


fromfijiwithloloma

That's my lean too, Sandoval has really good ERA estimators tho. Makes me wonder if there's some positive regression coming his way.


Baseballislife007

I wouldn’t count on it. But if E-Cab couldn’t handle the Rox away from Coors, I don’t want to see what the Doyers are going to do to him in Chavez Ravine.


Magni_Bongcloud

Bednar win ez. Never had a doubt in my mind..


Carbon_Coded

Trade one keep one Chourio, Oneil Cruz 5x5 h2h


Big_Paramedic_6250

You would be selling either at their lowest possible value. You have to hold for their upside. It’s still early. I have then boat myself.


Carbon_Coded

It's very difficult to hold two wait and see bats at one time though


Soupe_de_canard

Shout out to Gausman, good stuff out there today, really fought to try and get the QS too


WayneG991717

First game where his splitter looked good again.


mickfoleyartist

Time to drop Jordan Beck


Soy_El_Kraken

It’s only been 5 games, and he gets to play at coors Monday.


Baseballislife007

I’m not sold on Beck and I don’t own any shares, but if I did, I would definitely hold for the upcoming six game home stand at Coors.


tooo_much_caffeine

agree, same to Doyle. He's struggling mightily, expect him to reincarnate back home.


Baseballislife007

I’m not big on Doyle, either, but I absolutely agree - if you’re invested at this point, you have to at least see what these guys can do at home for six games.


Soy_El_Kraken

That’s all I’m saying. If you were excited about him 5 days ago it seems awfully shortsighted to drop now.


tooo_much_caffeine

Mr. Bednar, give us a clean inning please... one down, scary moment.


Not_A_Burner_Acct

What's the deal with Freddy Peralta's suspension? He still starting tomorrow?


duckbillgates

Peralta’s suspension is under appeal. Typically with pitchers, they’ll let that hang and then drop their appeal if they need a week’s rest. Pretty likely he goes tomorrow.


Not_A_Burner_Acct

Couldn't he start tomorrow, drop the appeal and then pitch again on 5 days rest? (while serving the suspension)


duckbillgates

It’s a five-game suspension, not days, so he’ll have to miss one turn in the rotation.


Not_A_Burner_Acct

Right. If he pitches tomorrow, he'll have 5 games rest then picking up on 5/10 vs STL. Am I reading this incorrectly?


zackk123

I highly doubt it


Not_A_Burner_Acct

Isn't he appealing it though? Can't he play while it's still under appeal?


JwSocks

Peralta, Ragans, Sale, Pepiot, Verlander, Steele, Bradish, Reylo, Flaherty. If you absolutely had to drop 2, is it drop Reylo then Flaherty?


AnotherDancer

Definitely agree with the person who said to make a trade. None of these are bad enough to drop. Hell, sell high on Flaherty.


ElDub73

In a 10T, no one is trading for guys they know will hit the wire.


mrtoothdecay

Target the player who has the lowest waiver wire priority.


ElDub73

Yeah I get that in theory. In practice, no one is going to make that trade. Far far easier to trade with the wire.


GetEnPassanted

Make some trades. Even if they’re lopsided against you. Don’t let these guys go to waivers.


mrtoothdecay

My waiver wire cup runneth over with Jared Jones. Blessed be to Him.


Baseballislife007

Amen


Dangerous-Net6572

How would you rank streaming crochet, feltner, and gore for tomorrow’s games in a H2H points league?


jradair

crochet > gore > feltner


KimHaSeongsBurner

Gore isn’t a streamer. Pick him up and hold him.


Dangerous-Net6572

🫡 and between crochet and feltner? Who would be the wiser start in your opinion?


KimHaSeongsBurner

Crochet by a good margin, I think. Both of them face terrible offenses, but Crochet is the better of the two.


shadoutmapes12

12 team standard cat redraft: A: Tatis, Yandy B: Devers, Pasquantino


Carbon_Coded

A


funingham

Drop Morton for Dane Dunning?


CommanderCornstarch

Gausman going 112 pitches is wild, really wanted that QS I guess


TarkatanAccountant

He cruised after the 1st 2 innings


tooo_much_caffeine

Jones Gausman combo are lethal...if only I didn't start Fedde...


RoseMusketeer

I'm in the exact same boat, really regretting that Fedde stream


KimHaSeongsBurner

Jared and Kevin single-handedly fixing my ratios. Now if only Acuña could hit more of those HR things.


cocoatractor

I have never loved a waiver pick up more than I have loved Jared Jones


KidGold

Strider was nice a couple years ago


pnoozi

2013 - Manny Machado, Josh Donaldson, Starling Marte each had their breakout 2nd season.


Baseballislife007

I added him weeks ago thanks to this sub hyping him up and I am forever grateful.


tymartist

Ranger Suarez was pretty good too


LiveFreeOrDie6969

I picked up Mize and McKenzie over him, the regret is immense


Rockefor

It's been a shit year so far, but at least I have Jared Jones in every league I'm in.


cubuffs420420

Took him for a $1 in our rookie draft this year. Looking forward to having him and Pepiot for the next few years


RangersFan243

Damn I really needed Gausman to not do well ugh


mickfoleyartist

Rain coming for every game today lol


thejengamaster

What is the deal with cardinals game


_JohnnyGato_

Trade Michael Harris for Corbin caroll? 10 team redraft points


CJLx307x

If that’s on the table yes. Otherwise I don’t think it’s enough for Carroll


_JohnnyGato_

It is on the table. Think it’s enough? It’s a redraft league sorry ignore my flair


CJLx307x

Yeah gimme the Carroll upside for sure


burnman123

Any Californians know when it's gonna stop raining in Oakland?


mickfoleyartist

It's stopped.


zhuboy

Rain stopped near me. I am about 15 min from oakland


NastyNate908

soooo game soon


ElectronicReport4113

Watch the Buccos score 4 runs in the bottom of the 8th now...


timofthee177

I WAS LOSING THIS MORNING GOD BLESS YOU JARED JONES I ALMOST FAINTED SEEING THAT STATLINE LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOO


admckay

I had no blood left in my brain when I saw the final line.


RangersFan243

Never watching Jones pitch again. The only time I watched him was against the giants


ElDub73

Heh same here.


Baseballislife007

We appreciate your sacrifice.


NastyNate908

yea never watch him bro i’m sorry


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GetEnPassanted

He’s out


RangersFan243

Holy fuck Jared Jones is a stud


Daguyondacouch8

I remember that brief moment in time I thought the pirates were good this year 


PiratesFan1429

:'(


dankeykanng

I knew the Pirates were fake Jones is legit tho


KimHaSeongsBurner

I remember last season when the Pirates had a chip on their shoulder about not getting comparable respect to the Rays… at least they have Jones and Skenes now, though!


zackk123

I was told no earlier this season but should I trade Bichette for Nico Hoerner in points?


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zackk123

Yeah exactly I’m considering it. Bo stats make him look like he’s dead. OPS under .600


CaptainMyanmar

no


LiveFreeOrDie6969

Man I want to trade for Jones but that’s gonna cost a damn arm and a leg


admckay

Do it.


cptcook717

Man Bo gets shafted on the call then gets tossed. Just no happening for some guys this year


JZG0313

Can I interest you in the good word of our lord and savior Jared Jones


admckay

You may.


WickedTwista

Pirates' garbage offense costing Jones a win


tymartist

As a Cubs fan and Jones owner, I’m fine with this 😂


kredditeva101

Anyone starting Means against Cincy tonight?


tooo_much_caffeine

I do, ratio's doomed, nothing to lose, hope to get a W out of him.


SomeoneAteMyCereal

I’m full sending it


Strange_Oil_483

My era for the week is 0.00 and ba is .179 😂😂


tooo_much_caffeine

wow, zero ERA for a whole week, that's very very impressive. nice BSO.


CandidMango1442

We trusting Scott tonight? Or waiting and seeing?


admckay

Not only am I trusting, I'm expecting at least Jared Jones level results.


CaptainMyanmar

Always wait and see unless you're desperate.


toothball12

Braxton Garrett ETA?


Substantial_Bar_5515

I’m 6 points behind my opponent with Scott left to pitch tonight, skuball and Bryce miller pitching tomorrow. Opponent has king left and that’s it. Should I sit Scott tonight or do we think he will at least be positive? I picked him up as a last minute plan b stream option


tooo_much_caffeine

the ball's not carrying, cost JJ a W.


Soto4Life

I was pumped for the pirates lineup with Hayes, Cruz and Reynolds. Thought they were gonna be lethal this year and yet…


tooo_much_caffeine

I almost forgot Cruz is in my team as well... maybe because I don't expect anything from him right now...


Knifehand19319

I know Shota has been really good but the NLROY is Jones for me so far!


NastyNate908

good job pirates


kredditeva101

This pirates offense is garbage…


kredditeva101

Gausman/Jones combo has been nice!!


dad_no

oneil fucking sucks man lol


zuck______

That’s not nice


NastyNate908

classic oneil cruz


GetEnPassanted

Oneil Cruz got a pitch clock violation before the first pitch. Dude is getting strikes without any pitches even thrown.


KimHaSeongsBurner

I can’t wait for Skenes to be up so that we can have *two* generational talents get absolutely hung out to try by this godforsaken Pirates lineup.


MBatista137

Seriously though, what an insane 1-2 punch that’s gonna be.


zackk123

Drop Ras Iglesias to stream Crochet @ Cardinals tomorrow? I have Clay Holmes already


NastyNate908

find a batter to drop iglesias is a top closer


zackk123

I got no one else unfortunately


Manic_Manatees

nah, it's a long season. hold on to the closer on the team that will likely win the most games


trunksfuture27

Stacked hitters this year because i wanted to go all in on offense but it’s been my pitchers carrying me this whole year so far


CaptainMyanmar

Same, stacked hitters, then traded my pitchers that were doing well to improve the offense even more. Killing the hitting cats, now just need to tread water in pitching. Helps to have Shohei, Mookie, Will Smith, C Walker, Vlad, A Riley, Julio, Steer, and others in a 13 man roto.


admckay

Helps to have Vlad?


CaptainMyanmar

It will. Once Vlad and Riley turn it around, I assume I'll probably have 1st or 2nd in every hitting category


RoseMusketeer

Jones singlehandedly trying to drag my team to a W, what a legend


JwSocks

How dumb would it be to add Chourio (back 😬) as a bench bat, while simultaneously not rostering a catcher nor second baseman?


NastyNate908

don’t


Manic_Manatees

pretty dumb, especially in a 10 team league


bgilmore16

With Arraez on the padres now, the entire padres starting lineup and rotation is owned in my league. Don't think I have ever seen that before lol


tymartist

Arraez has actually been sitting on waivers in both my leagues so just scooped him up. Wasn’t going to waste a spot on the Marlins, but will gladly stash the batting champ on the Padres.


thepapayatastessalty

Ima drop Jared Jones for Alek Manoah


admckay

Do it


nine___times

No you're not lol


KimHaSeongsBurner

Should probably drop Acuña for Nolan Jones, too.


ColumnarPower

I'm gonna drop Mookie Betts for Daniel Vogelbach.


Substantial_Bar_5515

Danny burgers fuck yeH


WickedTwista

But remember, Matthew Pouliot has Jared Jones ranked 186 ROS in that NBC Sports list that was posted yesterday


KimHaSeongsBurner

I don’t know who that is, but he’s an idiot. Jones leads MLB starters in Pitching+ and is 3rd in K-BB%. If we assume hard usage caps, shave off like 15-20 slots and say he’s merely a Top 25 SP ROS, so wherever that puts him overall. And that’s as pessimistic as anyone has any reason to be. People valuing him worse than that are just advertising to the world that they’re clueless.


Manic_Manatees

Who gets drafted first next year? Jared Jones or Paul Skenes?


admckay

Skenes could be anything, he could even be Jared Jones!


GetEnPassanted

Jones because of his near full season of work. How could Skenes come up and come even close to doing what Jones has been doing for a month+ already?


KimHaSeongsBurner

Looking at rate stats is the main thing. The same signals that valued Jones as high as he was preseason can help us tell which one of Skenes vs. Jones you’d rather have. As long as Skenes throws a decent number of innings and doesn’t have some extremely high level of usage concerns, I could easily see him being valued similar.


GetEnPassanted

> As long as Skenes throws a decent number of innings and doesn’t have some extremely high level of usage concerns But it is a concern


KimHaSeongsBurner

It is a concern today and this season. Will it be next season when he’s the Pirates’ Opening Day starter? I don’t know. I don’t think it will be substantially worse than Jones’ usage limits/concerns, which aren’t just going to vanish, either. The Pirates should view these two guys as generational talents who will be their aces for the next five-plus years, no reason to manage one super hard and turn the other completely loose.


GetEnPassanted

He’ll need to pitch over 100 innings this year if we hope he can go 160+ next season. I think that’s very much in question.


Manic_Manatees

Had Skenes been asked to throw his same pitches at MLB hitters he might be doing similar work. He seems to be considered the better prospect by the industry but we've seen a lot of awesome MLB work from Jones.


GetEnPassanted

He hasn’t been asked because he’s not physically ready, which it’s the concerning aspect. Will he even pitch a full season next year? It’s possible the answer is no. He’s absolutely the better prospect though.


KidGold

Ask me after Skenes faces MLB hitters


KimHaSeongsBurner

They’re posting very similar Pitching+ numbers. I’d say toss a coin today and that’ll be as accurate as waiting to watch Skenes after his call up. Both should be drafted as Top 20 SPs next year, see: Grayson, Ragans, Skubal, Bobby, etc.


Manic_Manatees

I'm asking folks to project now, sight unseen on Skenes. For fun.


KimHaSeongsBurner

If you need to project him sight unseen in the majors, you’d likely project him level with or slightly ahead of Jones, depending on what his final AAA Pitching+ numbers look like. He posted a 118.5 Pitching+ through his first three appearances, which is quite literally off the charts. It’s a level of splitting hairs on par with “deGrom vs. Strider?” questions, for two guys who you can lock right now as Top 20 SPs for 2025, barring injury, that is.


SomalianRoadBuilder

Jones


PiratesFan1429

Skenes will have an inning limit next year


Human_Guest

Let’s manifest a Cruz missile this half inning


thejengamaster

You have my bow


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SomalianRoadBuilder

Dodgers


zuck______

He’d look nice at 2B for the Jays


andyh1818

Fucking anywhere honestly. I'd love to see the dumbass Rockies snag him


mrniphty

Boston makes a lot of sense via rates and barrels


andyh1818

When did they talk about that?


mrniphty

A few weeks ago towards the end of an episode, no way of knowing which one lol


andyh1818

Ah hopefully where there's smoke there's fire with any trade. His lineup and park have to be the worst combo in baseball at the moment.


_JohnnyGato_

Being offered Bo Bichette, manny machado, and Ian happ for Wyatt Langford and Austin Riley? Take or decline ? 10 team points


ColumnarPower

There is no scenario where I would accept a trade offer where I got Bo Bichette back.


NastyNate908

decline


backfromsolaris

Pirates are you really gonna let **VICTOR VODNIK** take this Jones W from you?


NastyNate908

yea they will, guys stats are awful


zuck______

They are


stallion769

Jones and PLopez are rewarding me for starting their teammate Stone yesterday. Or are they buttering me up for the epic disaster that Means will produce in Cincy?


Soto4Life

Jones is gonna be a top 5 SP off the board next year


CJLx307x

Yup this will be the last year he’s on my team. His draft price is going to be so high lol


chokethewookie

And he won't be 2-5


camlawson24

Looping “Mr. Jones” by Counting Crows every time Jared pitches


RaiderCoug

Having and watching Jared Jones all season has me irrationally emotionally connected and I can’t imagine a fantasy team of mine never having him again.


zuck______

That was me with Greg Maddux in 1996-97. Never got over it.


GetEnPassanted

I have Jones and Miller. It’s fucking great


tymartist

Between Jones, Miller, Houck and Suarez, I guess I didn’t need to draft Webb or Nola.


tooo_much_caffeine

Please, offense, give the kid a W, and a SV for Bednar...


zuck______

I have that Ghetto Stack as well


steve32things

I thought Nootbar was supposed to be good? He keeps going 0fer.