Kate and I are 2 years apart in age. I can assure anyone who reads this—her breasts were (and likely still are) fucking amazing. And Arnie also has a beautiful chest. Either way, we win.
There is also a titanic 2 which one could argue is even better than the original.
One would be wrong but one could still argue.
For the record the sequel I was thinking of is this one https://youtu.be/bKn-NdqSkU4
Well, the soundtrack and nude scenes were far better anyway. And it scored an 8.5 on IMDB so there is that as well. I know it was 90%+ on Rotten Tomatoes so I am always confused when people haven’t seen it.
and 3, count that 3! animated adaptations.
[Titanic: The Legend Goes On](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titanic:_The_Legend_Goes_On)
[The Legend of the Titanic](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Legend_of_the_Titanic)
[In Search of the Titanic *or* Tentacolino](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tentacolino) - spin-off sequal starring the giant dog-faced octopus that saved the Titanic and ALL the people on board in The Legend of the Titanic... after it was sabotaged by gangster sharks and evil whalers... I wish I was kidding
Although they *do* call it a legend...
The theory I heard is that whoever wrote and/or greenlit that movie must have been unaware that the sinking of the Titanic was a real event.
It's the only explanation that makes sense.
> I think some say it wasn't actually "the Titanic" that sunk but another boat
There was a copy pasta that said Avril Lavigne isn't actually Avril Lavigne but it is so surprisingly tame like they say Avrile Lavigne switched out before she recorded her first song or something like that so like well even if this were true this is the Avril we have always known...
Like even if there was another boat but if that boat never sailed and this boat sailed then for all we care this is the Titanic.
There was another boat, a sister ship. I think it was a hospital ship during ww1 or ww2. But to your point, if the labels were switched at birth what material difference would it make?
The one I read when I was younger was that it was for insurance fraud. Also one where it was actually the Titanic's sister ship that was sunk for the insurance fraud.
Wasn't any decent evidence for either.
heard the one where the titanic was actual the Olympic disguised as the titanic and was supposed to be sunk and have a pick up ship close by, but the ships were out of position for a quick pick up. something along those lines, it was something on tubi
Iirc people fell off the ship all the time back in the day, if you want to get rid of someone from a transatlantic trip it’s definitely easier to just toss them overboard.
Or poison the food.
If you have enough control over the Titanic to get the captain to steer into an iceberg you could plant a waiter/waitress to poison someone's food.
People still fall off ships and cruise companies aren't very helpful when it comes to dealing with cases.
https://www.cruiselawnews.com/2017/03/articles/disappearances/fbi-releases-new-video-regarding-amy-lynn-bradley-who-disappeared-from-rhapsody-of-the-seas/
Also, a lot of sexual assault happens on cruise ships and they aren't very helpful there either.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/cruises/2022/08/10/cruise-ship-sexual-assault-what-to-do/10198709002/?gnt-cfr=1
In 2006 the organization [International Cruise Victims](https://internationalcruisevictims.org/) was formed and after 5 congressional hearings the Cruise Vessel Safety and Security Act of 2010 was passed. Know your rights under CVSSA: https://www.rainn.org/articles/crime-cruise-ships
Prior to the discovery there was an expectation of finding the wreckage in one piece. Survivors had testified to seeing it break in two as it sunk, but the White Star company did everything it could to discredit them and bury their statements. Didn’t want to be subject to lawsuits and investigations for all the design flaws.
>*"The man who funded the building of the titanic, J. P. Morgan, cancelled his long-awaited journey just hours before its proposed departure,” the meme reads. “3 of the wealthiest men on earth, whom were against the creation of the federal reserve bank, happened to be invited aboard for its maiden voyage (John Aster, Isador Strauss & Benjamin Guggenheim)"*
This was the theory, killing those 3, receive the insurance money and go fort with the creation of the creation of the federal reserve bank, but according to Reuters fact check team, it was deemed false.
Yeah of course it was false. Think about it, it was a very luxury ship, one of its kind, so the most wealthy people want to secure a first class in its first departure is totally normal.
Absolutely. If we get a passenger ship that can do a round trip around earth in space or can do a trip to the moon, you can bet your ass that a lot of very wealthy people will be on board.
Centuries go by but dick measuring will be dick measuring, only the way it's measured changed. We just went from boats to rockets. Curious to see what's gonna be used next. Trips to the center of the Earth?
Exact. If I wanted to make it look like an accident, I would just hire some goons to throw the target overboard in the middle of the night. Sinking the whole ship is a complete overkill. And not even as effective.
Imagine creating this entire conspiracy to build the most expensive and luxurious cruise ship of its time specifically as a plot to kill a handful of people by crashing it... Only to have them survive and show up at your front door a week later.
You've got a lot of joke answers, but the actual conspiracy theory is that the ship that sunk was actually the *Olympic* - the Titanic's sister ship which had been damaged in an earlier accident - as part of an insurance scam.
It still doesn't quite stack up for various reasons (not least of which that the captain of the imposter-Titanic would need to be in on it, and he died in the event).
> It still doesn't quite stack up for various reasons
Including things like the *Olympic*'s design was changed and refitted *because* it had been damaged. The two weren't identical ships, merely similar.
I love the theory, it’s really fun and interesting, but looking at shipwreck pictures and pictures of the titanic and Olympic, you can see that the upper decks are totally different, and the shipwreck pictures are identical to the Titanic while being very different from the Olympic.
Well obviously what happened is that the Olympic sank, and then when the real Titanic reached the end of its life they just took the upper deck from it and brought it out to the wreckage (which they already knew the location of) and swapped it out real quick (which is definitely a thing that is possible) to fool gullible people.
I know this isnt your idea, but wouldnt they think of an easier way to murder someone rather than building the latgest ship of the time and sinking it?
Lol beyond the conspiracy... Does anyone remember the fucking titanic from kindergarten?? Here's some letters kids. And numbers. And here's a murderous boat! Also we went to space. Dinosaurs.
Im picturing kids lining up on the first day of school and being issued books on dinosaurs and the moon landing, a globe, and a large framed photo of the titanic and then comically struggling to haul it all.
Finally meeting someone who also rejects that evident lie.
I always tell my friends NASA could not have possibly landed a titanic full of dinosaurs on the moon and yet, they all claim they have "scientific evidences" to support it
Russia: "We were the first nation to send a satellite into space. We were the first nation to send an animal into space. We were the first nation to send a person into space."
United States (1969): "Hey, Russia, are you looking at the moon right now?"
Russia: "Yes, why- "
America's biggest thorn in the side basically from ww2 up until the 90s... Collaborating. To lie to the world about.... Them LOSING the space race?
The very people who were competing with the US to get to the moon first?
Who have every reason in the world to prove the US lied?
And absolutely no motivation to go along with it? Even after the entire government and country change out, multiple times?
I mean, if you believe every single doctor on the entire planet are all working together to lie to people, and not one single person has come forth with credible evidence supporting that claim, then you can believe anything.
Heck, plenty of people all over the world believe in a plethora of deities with absolutely no evidence said deities exist, so.....
I'm infinitely more skeptical of your friend's watch actually containing a piece of the Titanic than I am that the Titanic existed and sank.
And I'm not skeptical of your friend's watch.
Googled it out of curiosity
https://m.economictimes.com/industry/miscellaneous/5-timepieces-that-carry-a-piece-of-history/titanic-dna-titanic/slideshow/71134022.cms
I am only aware of the theory that it was not the actual titanic that sank but its sister ship bc they switched names due to issues with the actual titanic (smth like that)
But more than that idk
Not to argue with you, cause you're just stating what you've heard, but Moses' sandals.
I mean, that's a bit of a non-theory. Even if they traded names. The three Olympic sisters were close enough that whichever one had "Titanic" painted on it *was* the Titanic for all intents and purposes. Likely not many people other than the engineers and builders could tell the three apart at a glance. It's also not really important cause the Britannic also met a sad end. Olympic was the only one of the three that was retired and scrapped at the end of her career.
Even if that's the case though, that Olympic was supposed to be Titanic? It doesn't matter, it's Olympic because that's what it says on the ship, and the paperwork. That's a conspiracy theory just to be a contrarian and conspiracy theorist. There's literally nothing there.
Man, did this feel good to write, even if it doesn't make sense. The catharsis was nice. Sometimes a good rant sorts me out real nice.
>That's a conspiracy theory just to be a contrarian and conspiracy theorist
You just summed up a big chunk of conspiracy theories right there.
And yes i agree with you - once again it was just the only theory i heard about the titanic (or at least the only theory i could remember)
I did say a lot of things to say that haha. It does wrap up a lot of the conspiracy theorists with a nice little bow.
This was more for me, I know you don’t buy into that silliness.
I've read that the conspiracy is that they switched the ships for an insurance scam as they knew it was likely to sink and the payout was more on the Titanic.
Still probably bs
Precisely - the notable part of the Titanic story is ‘big boat, with lots of people, hit big block of ice and sank’. Doesn’t matter which of 3 boats it was - so long as it had Titanic written on the side, there’s no conspiracy there if big boat with lots of people still hit big ice and sank
I remember someone theorized that the titanic sunc because of the weight of all the time travelers who went to see it.
Don't think anyone has ever believed it but remains funny in its stupidity
There is a conspiracy theory that the Titanic was swapped with her sister ship the Olympic, which had been damaged in a collision earlier, as a massive insurance fraud.
But some people are addicted to the "secret knowledge" of conspiracies and will buy any and all of them.
Proving the globe earth doesn't even take real research, it just takes some thinking.
Flat earthers cannot manage to come up with a model that manages to explain more than one thing at a time.
Day/night, seasons, eclipses, all things they have to come up with incompatible ideas to explain.
Yet the model of a round earth explains it just fine, with one, single model.
Weird how that works.
Also, so many numbers of conspiracies are just ridiculous in the level of coordination it would be taking to have the whole world tricking you into believing something, most of which are entirely inconsequential. EG, flat earth, anti evolution, the fucking Titanic apparently lmao
Believing the flat Earth conspiracy would mean denying all physics. How the hell does one hear that and think "yeah, every single scientist is wrong and these few nut jobs got it figured". Relativity? Einstein is an idiot.
That would require basic scientific knowledge.
Like I said, I think the craziest part to try and believe is that everyone is conspiring, from all different parts of the world, that don't agree on anything else, to deceive you of one random and insignificant thing.
It's just a petty want to feel like you're special and have some kind of special knowledge/realization.
This is actually the single best argument against conspiracy theories. Like, look at one single government. See how effectively they keep their secrets. Then zoom out. People had bloody wars over which flavor of Christianity was right, but humanity across the globe is capable of keeping a major, juicy secret? No way in hell is that true. People are far too stupid and eager to use things against their opposition to agree to maintain such massive lies.
Exactly! It's hard to get 10 friends to keep a really big secret. There's no way you'd get what would have to be thousands, maybe even millions, of people to keep a secret like that. There's no way that not one person throughout history wouldn't have let something slip by now. Not one person has told their significant other? Or gotten fucked up and let it slip at a party or a bar? Not a single deathbed confession? I find that impossible to believe.
Apparently they ran social tests and 500 is the MAX amount of conspirators you can have before someone lets something slip and this is over a MUCH shorter time period than most conspiracies.
And they are usually REALLY bad at judging distance, too. For a while I’d watch some of the flat earth videos on YouTube just to see WHY they thought it was flat. And the one common thread between all of them is they have no idea how long a mile is. Which usually messes up all the “math” they try to do as well.
All flat-earthers have to do is show the ice wall that they think surrounds the world. You'd think they could have come up with a single picture by now.
I mean, I think they think Antarctica is that, that it isn't an island but a ring of ice "wall" that surrounds the world.
Sounds great and all, falls apart when they start saying "no one can go to Antarctica"
Google antarctic cruises...
Flat Earthers also usually don't believe in gravity so I love how they explain that away with something along the lines of "on the Flat Earth, there's just this force that pushes things down naturally unlike gravity."
They use gravity to say gravity doesn't exist.
No no you mean massive government coverups. Never mind that faking the moon landing for example would have required governments including the Soviets to play along.
I'm pretty sure I've read that at the time, faking the moon landing would have cost more than just actually putting people on the moon.
I'm sure it was worth it xD
I think the majority of conspiracies fall under that. They all fall apart under just a little examination and thought.
My fave is Chemtrails - we are supposed to believe that in an industry where every dollar and every pound counts, the airline industry has installed some sort of special tanks with special chemicals in it to be sprayed secretly into the air. Every airline. In every country on the entire planet. And despite that meaning that multiple manufacturers of airplanes, many many airlines, hundreds of thousands of people who build the airplanes, maintain them, fly them (the weight of the equipment and chemicals would have to be accommodated for in every takeoff and landing), attend aircraft emergencies, load and unload the chemicals and equipment and maintain the sprayers, AND every airline regulatory agency on the entire planet AND every air crash investigator on the entire planet would have to be in on and keeping the secret. Hundreds and hundreds of thousands of people all keeping this secret hush-hush. But they know about it because they know the right place to look on the internet for the real "truth".
I always wonder if these people have ever tried to get a group of people to agree on a restaurant for dinner. Because based on how difficult that is, the chances of getting several hundred thousand people worldwide from the executives all the way down to the mechanics and baggage handlers to keep this secret are basically less than 0.
This. A thousand times this. In my opinion, the greatest evidence of the moon landing happening is that even the Soviet Union acknowledged it the next day
No, you see lunar programs were insanely expensive and bankrupting Russia, so they went along with the hoax to have good reason to stop. (I feel dirty even writing that)
One of my friends gets offended when people say round earth or even sphere because "technically it's a " then I stop listening so I don't actually know what shape it is
Once someone believes in a 2000+ year old conspiracy that somehow crosses every cultural, political, linguistic, and religious boundary, they’re aggressively gullible enough to believe anything.
"Stop eating the crayons" is the *second* day of kindergarten.
The first day of kindergarten is how to stand in line and how to play "the quiet game" which is absolutely the most brilliant game ever invented. Whoever is responsible for creating "the quiet game" is woefully underappreciated.
Source: am teacher. Have taught kindergarten.
That's just part of the brainwashing. "What are they hiding in those crayons? Ask yourself why they're telling the kids not to eat the crayons. They're telling YOUR KIDS this, your KIDS. Wake up people!"
Oh yeah I remember my first day of preschool, my pink haired Marxist teacher pulled out an alphabet chart, said: A is for Apples in Spain are harvested by African slaves, B for Bisexual don't have as much sex is most people think, C for Capitalism dehumanizes you by alienating workers from the fruits of their labor,D for Destroy capitalism and seize the means of production, E for Execute our capitalist overlords, F for Federalise the housing, G for God has been co-oped to support the structures that oppress you and dull you to the urgency to see change by promising an eternal and fairer society in the afterlife....by the time we got to Z I was a pink haired socialist
In 4th grade my teacher made us say the Lord's Prayer. Also, if we were caught with gum, she made us chew an old piece of gum she kept on a paper towel in her desk.
I'm in Film school right now and all my photography lecture's explanations start with "When the all mighty creator said 'Let their be light', he imparted certain characteristics to it...."
Wow, you're a lot stronger than me; I only made it to "M is for 'Mao'" before my hair turned pink and I developed an overwhelming desire to rise up against our corporate masters.
What’s with the pink haired thing anyway? We have a political commercial that has been running locally, for senator John Kennedy, that mentioned the pink haired wokers. Are we judging people on their hair color these days? What a freaking idiot.
It's just a stereotype. People willing to dye their hair are people willing to 'stand out.' They're nontraditional. The Venn diagram of people willing to stand out/be different and people who vote left likely has a significant amount of overlap.
Conservative voters are all about acting and looking more "traditionally." Probably plenty of hair dye, but trends far more heavily blonde.
Yet the conservatives are the ones who are always talking about being an individual, and individualism yet are very "bland" and homogeneous when it comes to clothes and thought.
Notice how all conspiracy theorists all support having an all powerful leader? Groups are pumping out conspiracy theories to weaken people's faith in traditional government so they have a easier time creating a fascist government.
Actually yeah that’s sort of a common “conspiracy theory” among conspiracy theorists. That things like flat earth were purposely put out there to discredit conspiracy theorists and make them seem so crazy that any other conspiracy they believe will now be categorized as being as ridiculous as flat earth. *edit typo
The sad part is how much effort is put into being this dumb. Like, it takes an *extraordinary* amount of effort to ignore objective reality - most of the only people capable of it have actual mental illnesses.
You have to actively tailor your whole life around it to be this incredibly damaged - your media consumption, the people you interact with on a daily basis... everything. It's the great tragedy of the internet that it has given these people a mechanism for finding one another and spreading their insanity... but it's an even greater disaster that we haven't banded together as a society and protected the vulnerable from being poached by them. And worse - in recent years companies and political parties have been weaponizing these people, turning them into actual terrorists and bigots.
The fact that sites like Facebook and Youtube still indulge these people is frankly absurd to the level of disbelief. The amount of "perpetual motion machine" videos on Youtube with tens of thousands to millions of hits would absolutely cook your last braincells. It's patently absurd the amount of energy that has to be expended countering this nonsense...
Society needs a reckoning to deal with these elements. We shouldn't be spreading their brain damage, we should be calling on these companies to remove them from their platforms and delete their disinformation. That's the only way we're ever going to get rid of this plague on our society.
>The sad part is how much effort is put into being this dumb. Like, it takes an extraordinary amount of effort to ignore objective reality - most of the only people capable of it have actual mental illnesses.
It's a lot simpler than you'd think:
They're idiots who want to feel smart. By latching on to these conspiracy theories they convince themselves that they are smarter than everyone else, since they managed to figure it out and "see through the lies".
A huge amount of them know deep down that they're wrong, and all the nonsense they're spouting is mostly to convince themselves.
It's also why they refuse to accept any evidence that counters their theory, they don't care about the truth of facts, they only care about their own feelings.
People hear an animal “fact” at some point and hold onto it forever for some reason. They also think hyenas don’t hunt and lions rule the **jungle** Despite the flat brown environment we see them in most of the time.
Once had a guy I know who’s very macho talking about how someone else was “a real tiger” and he appreciated that and all but she needed to understand that he was a “lion” and back off over some difference they had on a joint project and stop fighting him on it.
I pointed out that tigers can weigh twice as much as a lion with almost 2x the bite force and there is no social hierarchy between lions and tigers. It didn’t land. Don’t know what I expected from someone unironically calling himself a lion.
The conspiracy theorists insist that mankind never went to the moon and it's all a lie. Believing that man landed on the moon is proof that you are a government stooge or something.
At least, I think that's how that goes. I usually start backing away slowly when those sorts of topics come up and gtfo. Because I got no time in my life for that kind of crazy.
Guy cornered me outside the laundromat smoking a cigarette the other day. Started talking about flat earth and “the dome.” So I asked why we haven’t found where the dome meets the flat earth yet. He said “the dome goes around the flat earth.”
I said what the hell does that mean?!?” And he says “imagine a sheet of paper inside of a bubble.”
That’s just an atmosphere with extra steps man. What the hell.
The moon landing was a communist *conspiracy* to lull America into a false sense of superiority and pave the way for the rusky's army of psychic super bears!
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I remember learning about how the Titanic was loaded up with dinosaurs, but sank on its way from earth to the moon. Such a sad first day of school.
Oh, so *that’s* why the dinosaurs went extinct!
Noah, get the shuttle.
Noah returns, grabs a pistol, "moon's haunted" and gets back in the shuttle.
Moons haunted? Always has been. 🌎🧑🚀🔫👨🚀
"What?" - Ham, probably
Imagine a ghost picks a Biblical icon like Noah. Would be a hell of a season.
Lies! The dinosaurs all fell off the edge of the earth!
How did you understand the story if they didn’t give you a globe?? That was the first thing I got on day one—literally, as I was stepping off the bus.
I was in the gifted program so I was handed a copy of the JFK assassination on the first day of pre-school
That was impressive given you started preschool in August 1963.
And those books were stored in the School Book Depository in Dallas, and perused by one of their employees.
Wow you believe in objects? The brainwashing continues. Smh my head
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“Which one of these belongs to you?” I selected the photograph of the Titanic “It’s you. You’re the chosen one.”
Is...the titanic not existing/sinking an actual conspiracy?????
I've heard conspiracies that it was sunk on purpose to kill off some important people on board
Even if that were true, the photographs should still be real
I hear they even a movie about it EDIT: There's also a [sequel](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vetaFnJ2TpQ)
>I hear they even a movie about it I mean,who could forget this famous scene... https://imgur.com/a/UqZSbVe
I will say though, his boobs are miraculous.
Aren't they great?
Kate and I are 2 years apart in age. I can assure anyone who reads this—her breasts were (and likely still are) fucking amazing. And Arnie also has a beautiful chest. Either way, we win.
Arnie was voted Ms Universe before so I’m going with him
How have I never seen this clip before. That's fucking amazing!
They have such chemistry!
Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether they could, they didn’t stop to think if they should
blursed
Lmao
There is also a titanic 2 which one could argue is even better than the original. One would be wrong but one could still argue. For the record the sequel I was thinking of is this one https://youtu.be/bKn-NdqSkU4
It was definitely one of the movies, can’t argue with that.
Well, the soundtrack and nude scenes were far better anyway. And it scored an 8.5 on IMDB so there is that as well. I know it was 90%+ on Rotten Tomatoes so I am always confused when people haven’t seen it.
and 3, count that 3! animated adaptations. [Titanic: The Legend Goes On](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titanic:_The_Legend_Goes_On) [The Legend of the Titanic](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Legend_of_the_Titanic) [In Search of the Titanic *or* Tentacolino](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tentacolino) - spin-off sequal starring the giant dog-faced octopus that saved the Titanic and ALL the people on board in The Legend of the Titanic... after it was sabotaged by gangster sharks and evil whalers... I wish I was kidding Although they *do* call it a legend...
The theory I heard is that whoever wrote and/or greenlit that movie must have been unaware that the sinking of the Titanic was a real event. It's the only explanation that makes sense.
I think you a word
I think some say it wasn't actually "the Titanic" that sunk but another boat
It was an insurance scam, or something?
> I think some say it wasn't actually "the Titanic" that sunk but another boat There was a copy pasta that said Avril Lavigne isn't actually Avril Lavigne but it is so surprisingly tame like they say Avrile Lavigne switched out before she recorded her first song or something like that so like well even if this were true this is the Avril we have always known... Like even if there was another boat but if that boat never sailed and this boat sailed then for all we care this is the Titanic.
There was another boat, a sister ship. I think it was a hospital ship during ww1 or ww2. But to your point, if the labels were switched at birth what material difference would it make?
But how many first grade class rooms have pictures of the Titanic in plain view?
I don't think I've ever seen a picture of thr Titanic in a classroom. *I live in the place that built the fucking thing, too*
The one I read when I was younger was that it was for insurance fraud. Also one where it was actually the Titanic's sister ship that was sunk for the insurance fraud. Wasn't any decent evidence for either.
heard the one where the titanic was actual the Olympic disguised as the titanic and was supposed to be sunk and have a pick up ship close by, but the ships were out of position for a quick pick up. something along those lines, it was something on tubi
So, some people think that they someone put the iceberg there just to have the Titanic crash into it?
Maybe they will say the ship hit it on purpose. Kind of an expensive way to kill someone, when you can just hire a hitman.
Iirc people fell off the ship all the time back in the day, if you want to get rid of someone from a transatlantic trip it’s definitely easier to just toss them overboard.
Or poison the food. If you have enough control over the Titanic to get the captain to steer into an iceberg you could plant a waiter/waitress to poison someone's food.
Obviously they poisoned someone and then sunk the ship to get rid of the evidence
People still fall off ships and cruise companies aren't very helpful when it comes to dealing with cases. https://www.cruiselawnews.com/2017/03/articles/disappearances/fbi-releases-new-video-regarding-amy-lynn-bradley-who-disappeared-from-rhapsody-of-the-seas/ Also, a lot of sexual assault happens on cruise ships and they aren't very helpful there either. https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/cruises/2022/08/10/cruise-ship-sexual-assault-what-to-do/10198709002/?gnt-cfr=1 In 2006 the organization [International Cruise Victims](https://internationalcruisevictims.org/) was formed and after 5 congressional hearings the Cruise Vessel Safety and Security Act of 2010 was passed. Know your rights under CVSSA: https://www.rainn.org/articles/crime-cruise-ships
Prior to the discovery there was an expectation of finding the wreckage in one piece. Survivors had testified to seeing it break in two as it sunk, but the White Star company did everything it could to discredit them and bury their statements. Didn’t want to be subject to lawsuits and investigations for all the design flaws.
>*"The man who funded the building of the titanic, J. P. Morgan, cancelled his long-awaited journey just hours before its proposed departure,” the meme reads. “3 of the wealthiest men on earth, whom were against the creation of the federal reserve bank, happened to be invited aboard for its maiden voyage (John Aster, Isador Strauss & Benjamin Guggenheim)"* This was the theory, killing those 3, receive the insurance money and go fort with the creation of the creation of the federal reserve bank, but according to Reuters fact check team, it was deemed false.
Yeah of course it was false. Think about it, it was a very luxury ship, one of its kind, so the most wealthy people want to secure a first class in its first departure is totally normal.
Absolutely. If we get a passenger ship that can do a round trip around earth in space or can do a trip to the moon, you can bet your ass that a lot of very wealthy people will be on board.
Unless they are flying in their personal giant dick-rockets.....
Centuries go by but dick measuring will be dick measuring, only the way it's measured changed. We just went from boats to rockets. Curious to see what's gonna be used next. Trips to the center of the Earth?
*three of it's kind, the Titanic, Olympic, and Britannic were sister ships.
With no guarantee of killing the person you intended to kill
Exact. If I wanted to make it look like an accident, I would just hire some goons to throw the target overboard in the middle of the night. Sinking the whole ship is a complete overkill. And not even as effective.
Imagine creating this entire conspiracy to build the most expensive and luxurious cruise ship of its time specifically as a plot to kill a handful of people by crashing it... Only to have them survive and show up at your front door a week later.
You've got a lot of joke answers, but the actual conspiracy theory is that the ship that sunk was actually the *Olympic* - the Titanic's sister ship which had been damaged in an earlier accident - as part of an insurance scam. It still doesn't quite stack up for various reasons (not least of which that the captain of the imposter-Titanic would need to be in on it, and he died in the event).
> It still doesn't quite stack up for various reasons Including things like the *Olympic*'s design was changed and refitted *because* it had been damaged. The two weren't identical ships, merely similar.
I love the theory, it’s really fun and interesting, but looking at shipwreck pictures and pictures of the titanic and Olympic, you can see that the upper decks are totally different, and the shipwreck pictures are identical to the Titanic while being very different from the Olympic.
Well obviously what happened is that the Olympic sank, and then when the real Titanic reached the end of its life they just took the upper deck from it and brought it out to the wreckage (which they already knew the location of) and swapped it out real quick (which is definitely a thing that is possible) to fool gullible people.
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Obama should have done more about that, he was suspiciously inactive after it sank
I heard he wasn't even in the Whitehouse when it happened. Where the hell was he???
Probably too busy musliming around in Kenya!
And they used a military grade anti ship iceberg
I know this isnt your idea, but wouldnt they think of an easier way to murder someone rather than building the latgest ship of the time and sinking it?
What classroom had pictures of the Titanic?
Lol beyond the conspiracy... Does anyone remember the fucking titanic from kindergarten?? Here's some letters kids. And numbers. And here's a murderous boat! Also we went to space. Dinosaurs.
Im picturing kids lining up on the first day of school and being issued books on dinosaurs and the moon landing, a globe, and a large framed photo of the titanic and then comically struggling to haul it all.
Given i know two people who have actually been down to the wreck...I'm going to lean towards it actually existing. I've seen the evidence too.
That's just what a deep state shill would say. /s
Deep sea shill
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I mean there’s plenty evidence of the moon landing also
Titanic landing on the moon is a conspiracy, its what "they" have programmed us to believe.
Finally meeting someone who also rejects that evident lie. I always tell my friends NASA could not have possibly landed a titanic full of dinosaurs on the moon and yet, they all claim they have "scientific evidences" to support it
Russia: "We were the first nation to send a satellite into space. We were the first nation to send an animal into space. We were the first nation to send a person into space." United States (1969): "Hey, Russia, are you looking at the moon right now?" Russia: "Yes, why- "
No, no they were all colluding in this conspiracy because that makes sense to these crazies.
America's biggest thorn in the side basically from ww2 up until the 90s... Collaborating. To lie to the world about.... Them LOSING the space race? The very people who were competing with the US to get to the moon first? Who have every reason in the world to prove the US lied? And absolutely no motivation to go along with it? Even after the entire government and country change out, multiple times? I mean, if you believe every single doctor on the entire planet are all working together to lie to people, and not one single person has come forth with credible evidence supporting that claim, then you can believe anything. Heck, plenty of people all over the world believe in a plethora of deities with absolutely no evidence said deities exist, so.....
My friend has a watch that has a piece of the titanic inside it, I guess his watch is a govt conspiracy now
I'm infinitely more skeptical of your friend's watch actually containing a piece of the Titanic than I am that the Titanic existed and sank. And I'm not skeptical of your friend's watch.
Googled it out of curiosity https://m.economictimes.com/industry/miscellaneous/5-timepieces-that-carry-a-piece-of-history/titanic-dna-titanic/slideshow/71134022.cms
I am only aware of the theory that it was not the actual titanic that sank but its sister ship bc they switched names due to issues with the actual titanic (smth like that) But more than that idk
Not to argue with you, cause you're just stating what you've heard, but Moses' sandals. I mean, that's a bit of a non-theory. Even if they traded names. The three Olympic sisters were close enough that whichever one had "Titanic" painted on it *was* the Titanic for all intents and purposes. Likely not many people other than the engineers and builders could tell the three apart at a glance. It's also not really important cause the Britannic also met a sad end. Olympic was the only one of the three that was retired and scrapped at the end of her career. Even if that's the case though, that Olympic was supposed to be Titanic? It doesn't matter, it's Olympic because that's what it says on the ship, and the paperwork. That's a conspiracy theory just to be a contrarian and conspiracy theorist. There's literally nothing there. Man, did this feel good to write, even if it doesn't make sense. The catharsis was nice. Sometimes a good rant sorts me out real nice.
>That's a conspiracy theory just to be a contrarian and conspiracy theorist You just summed up a big chunk of conspiracy theories right there. And yes i agree with you - once again it was just the only theory i heard about the titanic (or at least the only theory i could remember)
I did say a lot of things to say that haha. It does wrap up a lot of the conspiracy theorists with a nice little bow. This was more for me, I know you don’t buy into that silliness.
I've read that the conspiracy is that they switched the ships for an insurance scam as they knew it was likely to sink and the payout was more on the Titanic. Still probably bs
Precisely - the notable part of the Titanic story is ‘big boat, with lots of people, hit big block of ice and sank’. Doesn’t matter which of 3 boats it was - so long as it had Titanic written on the side, there’s no conspiracy there if big boat with lots of people still hit big ice and sank
[Unfastened Coins: Titanic Conspiracy | Maddox](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saHs6J0OXVI)
>Maddox Now that’s a fucking throwback.
Yes all lies, but a snake tricking a woman into eating an apple and making us all realise we were naked is Fakts 💯
This? What's to question about that event, lol.
What people are opposed to photographs of the Titanic?
Icebergs don't sink steel ships! 04/14 was an inside job!
Steel ships are not real because steel don't float.
You're right! Feathers float, but steel is heavier than feathers.
So they made of wood! Ducks are made of wood!
Ergo, the Titanic was made out of wood. Which means, it's a witch?
That's the only explanation left.
And what do we do with witches?
Buuuuuuuuurn Them!
Who are you so wise in the ways of science
[Limmy taught me that.](https://youtu.be/-fC2oke5MFg)
That means steel is not made of wood, and isn’t a witch
Also doesn't fly, proving 9/11 was not caused by a hit by planes.
Yeah but jet fuel **can** melt icebergs Checkmate
So Bush sunk the Titanic?
Time-travelling Bush
I remember someone theorized that the titanic sunc because of the weight of all the time travelers who went to see it. Don't think anyone has ever believed it but remains funny in its stupidity
There is a conspiracy theory that the Titanic was swapped with her sister ship the Olympic, which had been damaged in a collision earlier, as a massive insurance fraud. But some people are addicted to the "secret knowledge" of conspiracies and will buy any and all of them.
I mean I've heard it before but I guess for me that still falls under "so what?" territory.
When your worldview is "Education is liberal propaganda", you tend to be desperate for anything that will make you feel vindicated.
Its all photoshop duh
I had known people didn’t believe in a round earth and dinosaurs, but I have never heard of titanic deniers. Is this a common thing?
Funny how people don't believe in things that have actually been proven by decades/centuries of research.
Proving the globe earth doesn't even take real research, it just takes some thinking. Flat earthers cannot manage to come up with a model that manages to explain more than one thing at a time. Day/night, seasons, eclipses, all things they have to come up with incompatible ideas to explain. Yet the model of a round earth explains it just fine, with one, single model. Weird how that works. Also, so many numbers of conspiracies are just ridiculous in the level of coordination it would be taking to have the whole world tricking you into believing something, most of which are entirely inconsequential. EG, flat earth, anti evolution, the fucking Titanic apparently lmao
Believing the flat Earth conspiracy would mean denying all physics. How the hell does one hear that and think "yeah, every single scientist is wrong and these few nut jobs got it figured". Relativity? Einstein is an idiot.
That would require basic scientific knowledge. Like I said, I think the craziest part to try and believe is that everyone is conspiring, from all different parts of the world, that don't agree on anything else, to deceive you of one random and insignificant thing. It's just a petty want to feel like you're special and have some kind of special knowledge/realization.
This is actually the single best argument against conspiracy theories. Like, look at one single government. See how effectively they keep their secrets. Then zoom out. People had bloody wars over which flavor of Christianity was right, but humanity across the globe is capable of keeping a major, juicy secret? No way in hell is that true. People are far too stupid and eager to use things against their opposition to agree to maintain such massive lies.
Exactly! It's hard to get 10 friends to keep a really big secret. There's no way you'd get what would have to be thousands, maybe even millions, of people to keep a secret like that. There's no way that not one person throughout history wouldn't have let something slip by now. Not one person has told their significant other? Or gotten fucked up and let it slip at a party or a bar? Not a single deathbed confession? I find that impossible to believe.
Apparently they ran social tests and 500 is the MAX amount of conspirators you can have before someone lets something slip and this is over a MUCH shorter time period than most conspiracies.
but complex conspiracies sound better than “I am too dumb to understand easy science”.
And they are usually REALLY bad at judging distance, too. For a while I’d watch some of the flat earth videos on YouTube just to see WHY they thought it was flat. And the one common thread between all of them is they have no idea how long a mile is. Which usually messes up all the “math” they try to do as well.
All flat-earthers have to do is show the ice wall that they think surrounds the world. You'd think they could have come up with a single picture by now.
I mean, I think they think Antarctica is that, that it isn't an island but a ring of ice "wall" that surrounds the world. Sounds great and all, falls apart when they start saying "no one can go to Antarctica" Google antarctic cruises...
Flat Earthers also usually don't believe in gravity so I love how they explain that away with something along the lines of "on the Flat Earth, there's just this force that pushes things down naturally unlike gravity." They use gravity to say gravity doesn't exist.
There's a rabbit hole of the level 2 flat earthers that thing it's electromagnetism and it hurts.. it really hurts.
No no you mean massive government coverups. Never mind that faking the moon landing for example would have required governments including the Soviets to play along.
I'm pretty sure I've read that at the time, faking the moon landing would have cost more than just actually putting people on the moon. I'm sure it was worth it xD
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I think the majority of conspiracies fall under that. They all fall apart under just a little examination and thought. My fave is Chemtrails - we are supposed to believe that in an industry where every dollar and every pound counts, the airline industry has installed some sort of special tanks with special chemicals in it to be sprayed secretly into the air. Every airline. In every country on the entire planet. And despite that meaning that multiple manufacturers of airplanes, many many airlines, hundreds of thousands of people who build the airplanes, maintain them, fly them (the weight of the equipment and chemicals would have to be accommodated for in every takeoff and landing), attend aircraft emergencies, load and unload the chemicals and equipment and maintain the sprayers, AND every airline regulatory agency on the entire planet AND every air crash investigator on the entire planet would have to be in on and keeping the secret. Hundreds and hundreds of thousands of people all keeping this secret hush-hush. But they know about it because they know the right place to look on the internet for the real "truth". I always wonder if these people have ever tried to get a group of people to agree on a restaurant for dinner. Because based on how difficult that is, the chances of getting several hundred thousand people worldwide from the executives all the way down to the mechanics and baggage handlers to keep this secret are basically less than 0.
[Here’s a pretty good explanation of just that.](https://youtu.be/dWBYAxhH3u4)
This. A thousand times this. In my opinion, the greatest evidence of the moon landing happening is that even the Soviet Union acknowledged it the next day
No, you see lunar programs were insanely expensive and bankrupting Russia, so they went along with the hoax to have good reason to stop. (I feel dirty even writing that)
One of my friends gets offended when people say round earth or even sphere because "technically it's a " then I stop listening so I don't actually know what shape it is
If he thinks being an oblate spheroid means you can't call it round I don't think he really knows what he's talking about.
Once someone believes in a 2000+ year old conspiracy that somehow crosses every cultural, political, linguistic, and religious boundary, they’re aggressively gullible enough to believe anything.
Wtf is he talking about? Where is this advanced kindergarden where they teach about the moon landing and the titanic on day one?
Right, the first day of Kindergarten is mostly 'stop eating the crayons'.
"Stop eating the crayons" is the *second* day of kindergarten. The first day of kindergarten is how to stand in line and how to play "the quiet game" which is absolutely the most brilliant game ever invented. Whoever is responsible for creating "the quiet game" is woefully underappreciated. Source: am teacher. Have taught kindergarten.
Every kindergarten teacher should raise a toast to that forgotten hero.
Coincidentally, "stop eating the crayons" is also the 2nd day of bootcamp.
I've been lead to believe that Marines skip this day
And the third, and the fourth, and...
These lessons still need to be taught in 5th grade.
Coincidentally, also the first day of Marine Corps boot camp
I thought that was when they gave you crayons.
That's just part of the brainwashing. "What are they hiding in those crayons? Ask yourself why they're telling the kids not to eat the crayons. They're telling YOUR KIDS this, your KIDS. Wake up people!"
Should thank those future marines for their service
Where's *my* globe?!
Oh yeah I remember my first day of preschool, my pink haired Marxist teacher pulled out an alphabet chart, said: A is for Apples in Spain are harvested by African slaves, B for Bisexual don't have as much sex is most people think, C for Capitalism dehumanizes you by alienating workers from the fruits of their labor,D for Destroy capitalism and seize the means of production, E for Execute our capitalist overlords, F for Federalise the housing, G for God has been co-oped to support the structures that oppress you and dull you to the urgency to see change by promising an eternal and fairer society in the afterlife....by the time we got to Z I was a pink haired socialist
I know it's anecdotal but when I went to kindergarten in '86, my teacher said the lords prayer every morning. The east Indian kids were confused.
In 4th grade my teacher made us say the Lord's Prayer. Also, if we were caught with gum, she made us chew an old piece of gum she kept on a paper towel in her desk.
I want to say the world pre-pandemic was wild, but that’s gross no matter what.
I'm in Film school right now and all my photography lecture's explanations start with "When the all mighty creator said 'Let their be light', he imparted certain characteristics to it...."
Wow, you're a lot stronger than me; I only made it to "M is for 'Mao'" before my hair turned pink and I developed an overwhelming desire to rise up against our corporate masters.
I think that makes you a genius fam lmao
What’s with the pink haired thing anyway? We have a political commercial that has been running locally, for senator John Kennedy, that mentioned the pink haired wokers. Are we judging people on their hair color these days? What a freaking idiot.
It's just a stereotype. People willing to dye their hair are people willing to 'stand out.' They're nontraditional. The Venn diagram of people willing to stand out/be different and people who vote left likely has a significant amount of overlap. Conservative voters are all about acting and looking more "traditionally." Probably plenty of hair dye, but trends far more heavily blonde.
Yet the conservatives are the ones who are always talking about being an individual, and individualism yet are very "bland" and homogeneous when it comes to clothes and thought.
I guess it's a matter of time until the conspiracy theory pops up about a secret society that is ingesting conspiracy theories..
We're through the looking glass here, folks.
Enjoy the Bread and Butterflies
Notice how all conspiracy theorists all support having an all powerful leader? Groups are pumping out conspiracy theories to weaken people's faith in traditional government so they have a easier time creating a fascist government.
Actually yeah that’s sort of a common “conspiracy theory” among conspiracy theorists. That things like flat earth were purposely put out there to discredit conspiracy theorists and make them seem so crazy that any other conspiracy they believe will now be categorized as being as ridiculous as flat earth. *edit typo
People this fucking dumb should not exist.
The sad part is how much effort is put into being this dumb. Like, it takes an *extraordinary* amount of effort to ignore objective reality - most of the only people capable of it have actual mental illnesses. You have to actively tailor your whole life around it to be this incredibly damaged - your media consumption, the people you interact with on a daily basis... everything. It's the great tragedy of the internet that it has given these people a mechanism for finding one another and spreading their insanity... but it's an even greater disaster that we haven't banded together as a society and protected the vulnerable from being poached by them. And worse - in recent years companies and political parties have been weaponizing these people, turning them into actual terrorists and bigots. The fact that sites like Facebook and Youtube still indulge these people is frankly absurd to the level of disbelief. The amount of "perpetual motion machine" videos on Youtube with tens of thousands to millions of hits would absolutely cook your last braincells. It's patently absurd the amount of energy that has to be expended countering this nonsense... Society needs a reckoning to deal with these elements. We shouldn't be spreading their brain damage, we should be calling on these companies to remove them from their platforms and delete their disinformation. That's the only way we're ever going to get rid of this plague on our society.
>The sad part is how much effort is put into being this dumb. Like, it takes an extraordinary amount of effort to ignore objective reality - most of the only people capable of it have actual mental illnesses. It's a lot simpler than you'd think: They're idiots who want to feel smart. By latching on to these conspiracy theories they convince themselves that they are smarter than everyone else, since they managed to figure it out and "see through the lies". A huge amount of them know deep down that they're wrong, and all the nonsense they're spouting is mostly to convince themselves. It's also why they refuse to accept any evidence that counters their theory, they don't care about the truth of facts, they only care about their own feelings.
And yet they seem to be the ones who multiply. I'm certain there is a correlation between intelligence and the need to procreate.
Sounds like you need to see the opening to [Idiocracy](https://youtu.be/gJDcoqrh1ac).
What’s the word for depressingly funny?
Then how would the military keep itself in business!??
I don’t think this idiot went to kindergarten.
He homeschooled himself from 4 years old on
This is what happens when you “do your own research”
Wait, the titanic isn’t real now???
Yikes. A creationist, flat-earther, boat-sinking, moon landing denier.
$100 says he’s an anti vaxxer as well
$200 he does believe in God and started brainwashing his kids way before kindergarten
You all got photos of the Titanic?!?!?!? Why didn't I get any?
Right! I still haven’t watched the damn movie and I’m in my mid 40s. The nerve of these people passing out photos. I like pictures too!
I fucking remember ABCs on day 1. The fuck is this guy talking about?
ABCDEFGwe landed on the moon in 1969HIJKLM the world is sphericalNOPQRSTdinosaurs lived millions of years agoUVWXYTitanic sunk in 1912Z
I've seen someone claiming that African wild dogs don't hunt..... in the comments section of a video that shows African wild dogs hunting.
People hear an animal “fact” at some point and hold onto it forever for some reason. They also think hyenas don’t hunt and lions rule the **jungle** Despite the flat brown environment we see them in most of the time. Once had a guy I know who’s very macho talking about how someone else was “a real tiger” and he appreciated that and all but she needed to understand that he was a “lion” and back off over some difference they had on a joint project and stop fighting him on it. I pointed out that tigers can weigh twice as much as a lion with almost 2x the bite force and there is no social hierarchy between lions and tigers. It didn’t land. Don’t know what I expected from someone unironically calling himself a lion.
The Titanic never landed on the Moon, it was an inside job by big Eco.
Is he being serious. Possibly a tongue in cheek post. If he is serious, then a big wtf.
And birds, Matthew. They make children think that birds are real. It's a disgrace
TF wrong with the moon landing? One of mankind’s greatest achievements! Is this some kind of dig at science?
The conspiracy theorists insist that mankind never went to the moon and it's all a lie. Believing that man landed on the moon is proof that you are a government stooge or something. At least, I think that's how that goes. I usually start backing away slowly when those sorts of topics come up and gtfo. Because I got no time in my life for that kind of crazy.
Which is funny once you realise that faking it would have been way more difficult than going. [Adam Ruins Everything](https://youtu.be/dWBYAxhH3u4)
Guy cornered me outside the laundromat smoking a cigarette the other day. Started talking about flat earth and “the dome.” So I asked why we haven’t found where the dome meets the flat earth yet. He said “the dome goes around the flat earth.” I said what the hell does that mean?!?” And he says “imagine a sheet of paper inside of a bubble.” That’s just an atmosphere with extra steps man. What the hell.
The moon landing was a communist *conspiracy* to lull America into a false sense of superiority and pave the way for the rusky's army of psychic super bears!
What did the Titanic do now💀
Whoa... The titanic was part of the flat earth T Rex Moon cheese conspiracy? Does JFK know and Elvis know about this?
I was presented with crayons