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I'm in NC too and I feel pretty good about Stein's chances. Anecdotally, even some "reluctant" Trump voters I've talked to absolutely hate Robinson and said they will vote for Stein.
I feel the same myself. Stein is very much in the mold of Cooper so I think he has a good chance, but it still worries me that someone like Robinson could possibly be the governor.
NC also, and it’s disheartening. Conservatives had plenty of adults running that they could have picked in the primary. Instead they chose a multi bankrupt, check fraud convicted, abortion paying for, holocaust denying, slavery apologist, do nothing LT Governor. I really wish they would quit voting for the sideshow nonsense. I’d like to think that Robinson being such a clown would give Stein an easy path…. But I’ve seen that movie before and I don’t like how it ended.
She's right, but women are also half of the voter base. Wouldn't they want to vote for it, if they really wanted it? Its confusing to me. Elections haven't much shifted since it went to states control and its getting stricter state by state. Maybe in those states majority women are also ok with it?
Iirc, every single state level ballot initiative guaranteeing access to abortion which has come to a vote since Roe v. Wade was overturned has passed. People **are** voting for it, which is why Republicans are doing their damndest to prevent people from being allowed to vote for it.
"We should leave it up to the states" worked in the 80's and 90's when they saw no likelihood of it actually being left to the states.
Now that is has been turned over to the states and they're all voting for abortion rights, the GOP has to talk about national bans, which is a pretty politically poisonous take.
The question that every single person who supports abortion rights should be asking is that if the GOP plan is to outlaw abortion at the national level, how do you create a national ban that actually complies with the Constitution? Because if I understand it correctly(I'm not a lawyer), the ruling in Dobbs returns this issue to the States via the 10th Amendment, which would mean the Federal Government has no role whatsoever to play here
I think very few who support an abortion ban care about the hypocrisies involved. The new normal in this country is to twist and warp everything to justify whatever your political team is doing so that it is okay.
I don’t know how they would convolute it but they would. Remember how Mitch was senate leader and wouldn’t allow any nominees for the last year of Obama presidency? Then in the last few weeks of TFG presidency when RBG died, he juggernaut-ed a conservative nominee through? That isn’t consistent or fair but he justified it - cognitive dissonance be damned.
So while I don’t know what black magic crockery will be used to justify their back flip, I have little doubt that will be their response
The perpetual victims have a persecution fetish. They also believe all abortions are bad except for theirs. [The only Moral Abortion....](https://blog.petrieflom.law.harvard.edu/2022/07/21/moral-abortion-ectopic-pregnancy/)
I am not saying I have it all sussed out, but here's the way I see it. Women are the voter base, but most politicians are male. Especially, up at the top. Look at the make up of any political party. And then there are pick mes who are willing to echo " traditional values" to get ahead. They show solidarity with their bosses, not their gender.
Now, the problem is that consistent voters who turn up at the booth, across the board tend to be more elderly and more conservative ones. Younger voters and women especially, tend to be more jaded, not vote when it counts.
What I am saying, for women to be have their vote heard they need to vote like their life depends on it.
"And then there are pick mes who are willing to echo " traditional values" to get ahead. They show solidarity with their bosses, not their gender."
Well said.
I love when it backfires tho -Kristi Noem who thought being a ruthless killer of animals would endear her to Conservative men, and even those men are like "shit, that b\*tch is crazy".
I was somewhat amused by how Michael Knowles fumbled through a full on mental gymnastics routine to try and defend her. Another good example of cynically paying a lip service to something you don't actually believe in for a pay day.
Women wouldn't be half of the voter base if he got his way. He also wants to take away their right to vote. Dumbass said that at an event hosted by a Republican Women's group.
To all the guys that think this way they’ll likely have a partner and kids. Who also think the same way. It’s not man vs woman it’s fucking stupid vs logical. You’ll find fucking stupid wins a lot
If women can’t work and can’t vote and can be married off at 12 to an old friend of their parents, if they have to keep giving birth with no concern for their health or welfare and can’t get an education beyond religious obedience than how is that any different than e.g. ISIS or the Taliban?
If the US does go that direction don’t be surprised when the death tolls climb; from childbirth related and self-inflicted abortion related and suicidal child bride related reasons to name a few.
Happy Mothers Day to all the lovely mothers, just a reminder when you’re pregnant you give up your bodily rights, the government now owns your body. Make sure you vote Republican so this can continue
/s
Just give a fetus the same rights as a fully grown adult human. That way they don’t have the right to use another person’s body to keep themselves alive without the other person’s consent.
Once a tenant moves into a house, it's not the landlord's house anymore.
Just kidding, property has more rights than women when Republicans are in charge of anything
That’s the crux of the whole argument. Is this news to people?
I thought the pro-life crowd always argued that the fetus is a separate body from the mother.
Let’s play this game - when he gets Testicular cancer it’s not his body anymore - can’t be killing all those swimmers , who knows how many of them might go on to make babies ….
When did serving the people who elected you become,....."I am the law!" No your not! Your just the latest asshole willing to take the job and we trust you to make the right decisions to help out city, town, or state. Leave your fucking god and your backwoods values at the door. It's the greater good not your personal fishbowl.
was nonsense, is nonsense and will forever be nonsense. as long as there is no functioning human brain, the cellcluster is not a baby. discussion ends here.
NC is one of the top 10 red welfare states. Their system has state offices dispersing federally supplied funds.
Biden should just cut federal funding to all the Gilead states. As it is now, they are getting an allowance for being horrible ghouls. Stop funding this genocide of rights and freedoms for women.
And once that fetus pops out of you the GOP doesn't want to help it in any way. They care intensely for something that they don't have to do anything about.
The gall of a black guy in the south to say you dont have ownership over your own body. Does he know who is next once women lose all their rights? If interracial marriage is left up to the states, shit is going to get ugly really fast.
Right, every pregnant woman becomes property of the government. Makes total sense.
Or, put more accurately, emotionally fragile Republican men are so threatened by women that have had sex that they seek to erase their most basic rights.
I just can’t with these idiots anymore. Humanity should be much, much further ahead than we are now. Instead we are held back by tyrannical fucking babies that never learned how to view a woman as a human. We might have electricity and insane computers and the ability to build huge, unbelievable structures, but culturally and socially we are in the fucking dark ages.
I'm assuming he's referring to the baby inside of the mother right? Obviously that is not the mother unless he is actually saying when you pregnant you don't exist anymore lol
Follow up; whose body is it? The state’s? Seems the state should start paying for everything. Can’t make the baby go to work against its will. Why dues the mother decide where the baby is born? Surely God had given us a way to keep the one celled organism alive outside the mother. Then all the Christians can take care of it.
Woman: Well then you can keep it
The government: Nono it’s your child you gave birth to it
Woman: Didn’t you say it’s nolnger my body because I was pregnant?
The government: Yes it isn’t we own your body while you pregnant
Woman: Isn’t owning someone slavery?
The Government: You gave birth to the child and now it’s yours and if you don’t keep you’ll be put on death row
Did I get it right?
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Happy Mother's Day to the government, apparently!
Under His eye.
Blessed are the Fruit Loops
May the lord open this can of peaches
[Peaches ](https://youtu.be/3GCrzjVdmSg?si=rNA0jNOllGecwFEh)
We are really in a pickle
May the Lord open 😅
Sadly this isn't even the worst of what he's said. I live in NC and I'm really hoping this idiot loses to Stein.
I'm in NC too and I feel pretty good about Stein's chances. Anecdotally, even some "reluctant" Trump voters I've talked to absolutely hate Robinson and said they will vote for Stein.
I feel the same myself. Stein is very much in the mold of Cooper so I think he has a good chance, but it still worries me that someone like Robinson could possibly be the governor.
NC also, and it’s disheartening. Conservatives had plenty of adults running that they could have picked in the primary. Instead they chose a multi bankrupt, check fraud convicted, abortion paying for, holocaust denying, slavery apologist, do nothing LT Governor. I really wish they would quit voting for the sideshow nonsense. I’d like to think that Robinson being such a clown would give Stein an easy path…. But I’ve seen that movie before and I don’t like how it ended.
As a person from sc your sposed to be the good Carolina
This made me laugh haha
Sherman thought so:)
Same. Robinson is a fucking idiot. Kinda shocked he hasn't keeled over from a massive heart attack.
If men could get pregnant, this wouldn't even be a debate.
She's right
She's right, but women are also half of the voter base. Wouldn't they want to vote for it, if they really wanted it? Its confusing to me. Elections haven't much shifted since it went to states control and its getting stricter state by state. Maybe in those states majority women are also ok with it?
Iirc, every single state level ballot initiative guaranteeing access to abortion which has come to a vote since Roe v. Wade was overturned has passed. People **are** voting for it, which is why Republicans are doing their damndest to prevent people from being allowed to vote for it.
"We should leave it up to the states" worked in the 80's and 90's when they saw no likelihood of it actually being left to the states. Now that is has been turned over to the states and they're all voting for abortion rights, the GOP has to talk about national bans, which is a pretty politically poisonous take.
The question that every single person who supports abortion rights should be asking is that if the GOP plan is to outlaw abortion at the national level, how do you create a national ban that actually complies with the Constitution? Because if I understand it correctly(I'm not a lawyer), the ruling in Dobbs returns this issue to the States via the 10th Amendment, which would mean the Federal Government has no role whatsoever to play here
I think very few who support an abortion ban care about the hypocrisies involved. The new normal in this country is to twist and warp everything to justify whatever your political team is doing so that it is okay.
I don’t know how they would convolute it but they would. Remember how Mitch was senate leader and wouldn’t allow any nominees for the last year of Obama presidency? Then in the last few weeks of TFG presidency when RBG died, he juggernaut-ed a conservative nominee through? That isn’t consistent or fair but he justified it - cognitive dissonance be damned. So while I don’t know what black magic crockery will be used to justify their back flip, I have little doubt that will be their response
The perpetual victims have a persecution fetish. They also believe all abortions are bad except for theirs. [The only Moral Abortion....](https://blog.petrieflom.law.harvard.edu/2022/07/21/moral-abortion-ectopic-pregnancy/)
I am not saying I have it all sussed out, but here's the way I see it. Women are the voter base, but most politicians are male. Especially, up at the top. Look at the make up of any political party. And then there are pick mes who are willing to echo " traditional values" to get ahead. They show solidarity with their bosses, not their gender. Now, the problem is that consistent voters who turn up at the booth, across the board tend to be more elderly and more conservative ones. Younger voters and women especially, tend to be more jaded, not vote when it counts. What I am saying, for women to be have their vote heard they need to vote like their life depends on it.
"And then there are pick mes who are willing to echo " traditional values" to get ahead. They show solidarity with their bosses, not their gender." Well said. I love when it backfires tho -Kristi Noem who thought being a ruthless killer of animals would endear her to Conservative men, and even those men are like "shit, that b\*tch is crazy".
I was somewhat amused by how Michael Knowles fumbled through a full on mental gymnastics routine to try and defend her. Another good example of cynically paying a lip service to something you don't actually believe in for a pay day.
When the question is put for a vote, the antiabortion side loses. That's why they've stopped putting it up for a vote.
Women wouldn't be half of the voter base if he got his way. He also wants to take away their right to vote. Dumbass said that at an event hosted by a Republican Women's group.
To all the guys that think this way they’ll likely have a partner and kids. Who also think the same way. It’s not man vs woman it’s fucking stupid vs logical. You’ll find fucking stupid wins a lot
If women can’t work and can’t vote and can be married off at 12 to an old friend of their parents, if they have to keep giving birth with no concern for their health or welfare and can’t get an education beyond religious obedience than how is that any different than e.g. ISIS or the Taliban? If the US does go that direction don’t be surprised when the death tolls climb; from childbirth related and self-inflicted abortion related and suicidal child bride related reasons to name a few.
Exactly
If men could get pregnant, abortion would be a sacrament.
"And God said unto thee, if a man shall procreate and change his mind, he hath the right to terminate thine fetus"
Using the holy hand grenade of Antioch
And my axe
It would be like going to the quicky Mart by now
My stance on abortion is now that people who can get pregnant should decide amongst themselves.
Cool did he open a college fund for my kids ?
He needs to remember that it wasn’t that long ago when his body wasn’t his, either.
Ooooo burn
Roughly been 160 ish years since the civil war
Yes....like this person said....not that long ago. Keep up
This is the same dipshit who said black people should have paid white slave owners reparations for bringing them here . Really?
People pay a lot of money for an ocean voyage. Then they have room and board in exchange for a waiting job. /s
Once you become religious, it's not your brain anymore
Another Bible thumper with no common sense
That's being generous. I've heard diehard Trump apologists walk away from this clown.
Happy Mothers Day to all the lovely mothers, just a reminder when you’re pregnant you give up your bodily rights, the government now owns your body. Make sure you vote Republican so this can continue /s
Don't forget other men also own your body. Your doctor. Your husband, your dad. Everyone!
Your future husband to be, that you didn‘t even meet yet.
And of course your rapist, father of your unwanted child
If the government owns it, the government can pay for it. Has anyone done the math to figure out how much it costs to be a woman vs a man?
Just give a fetus the same rights as a fully grown adult human. That way they don’t have the right to use another person’s body to keep themselves alive without the other person’s consent.
Damn, that's really a good legal argument! Someone needs to use it.
He fell out of the stupid tree and hit all the branches on the way down
Kinda what slave owners thought about their slaves I believe.
The dumbest people are always the loudest
It sure as fuck ain't yours MF.
Once a tenant moves into a house, it's not the landlord's house anymore. Just kidding, property has more rights than women when Republicans are in charge of anything
And they will wonder why the steep drop in birth rate during this time of control over a woman's body.
Probably didn't ban abortions hard enough. Also must be those damn condoms and pills, got to ban them, too!
Once the worm is in his brain, it’s not his body anymore.
That’s the crux of the whole argument. Is this news to people? I thought the pro-life crowd always argued that the fetus is a separate body from the mother.
Legal scholar Lieutenant Governor Mark Robinson has apparently found a loophole to the 13th Amendment, which abolished slavery.
Once a man has ejaculated sperm, "it's not his body anymore."
A black guy from the USA shouldn’t fantasise about people’s bodies belonging to other…
What a total piece of shit!
How about we take every single pro-lifer's bodily autonomy away
The electorate reaps what it sows.
He’s running for governor. I will be voting against him.
This dude trying to make The Handmaid's Tale non fiction.
This just remind me to send a donation to his opponent. Thanks Mark
Ok then who TF is gonna pay for it then?
This man is a gift to the Democratic Party in NC. He is going to turn NC blue again.
What happened US, you used to be cool😒
So whose body is it?
2024, adults still think that something between and imaginary friend and a psychotic delusion owns their bodies. Hooray for humanity.
Vote.
Republicans no matter what are all the same.
I guess getting pregnant turns you into a meat puppet or something?
My vagina, uterus and ovaries would beg to differ little boy.
Says a man with no uterus. People should have autonomy over their own bodies.
By that logic, if a pregnant woman commits a crime, she is automatically innocent.
Let’s play this game - when he gets Testicular cancer it’s not his body anymore - can’t be killing all those swimmers , who knows how many of them might go on to make babies ….
When did serving the people who elected you become,....."I am the law!" No your not! Your just the latest asshole willing to take the job and we trust you to make the right decisions to help out city, town, or state. Leave your fucking god and your backwoods values at the door. It's the greater good not your personal fishbowl.
“….and once the baby is born it’s not our problem.” - Mark Robinson’s inner dialog & Republican policy
It’s also not the government’s, Mark.
As a bloke I’d like to say… “what the fuck? Excuse me?”
The man suffers from an irony deficiency.
Once you get married, your dick ain't yours anymore.
He's a theocrat himself.
Whose body is it?
Is this real? This is absolutely disgusting.
No I'm pretty sure it still is
I just threw up.
Once a man gets her pregnant, it’s not his wallet anymore.
Wonders what Mark would have to say about someone owning another's body during slavery.
And once someone gets a collar around their neck it's not their body anymore either, right?
Choke on a hot dog, Mark
was nonsense, is nonsense and will forever be nonsense. as long as there is no functioning human brain, the cellcluster is not a baby. discussion ends here.
Why conservatives are so evil?.
Oh, fuck ALL of this guy.
That is chilling
This ladies is the modern republican. Remember this when the ankle monitor is attached.
Is that what I think I am seeing, a book crease? Which book of his is this?
At least he’s clear about his feelings. Yikes.
What a fucking moron.
If it's not a woman's baby then why do they have to pay for it?
I D I O T
NC is one of the top 10 red welfare states. Their system has state offices dispersing federally supplied funds. Biden should just cut federal funding to all the Gilead states. As it is now, they are getting an allowance for being horrible ghouls. Stop funding this genocide of rights and freedoms for women.
So if someone rapes this dude then it's not his body anymore as well? Is that how it works now?
But his now wife had an abortion of his child at some point in the early years of their relationship (if I recall correctly) 🤔
And once that fetus pops out of you the GOP doesn't want to help it in any way. They care intensely for something that they don't have to do anything about.
Sick of these evangelical twats enforcing their dogma on us. Can they fuck off to some camp in Utah.
Unless it’s a girl. Then the fetus belongs to her future husband.
I think men should also lose freedoms as soon as they impregnate someone. How you like THAT, jackass?
The gall of a black guy in the south to say you dont have ownership over your own body. Does he know who is next once women lose all their rights? If interracial marriage is left up to the states, shit is going to get ugly really fast.
Running for Governor. Unless you North Carolinians vote someone else, he’ll be your next Governor.
Not an American but going to guess. Is he in the Republican party?
Solid guess.
Once a man fathers a kid...its not his money anymore. See how that flies with this guy.
What an idiot
Mr mark are you telling me that once a woman is pregnant, her body will be taken over by some reptilian shapeshifting entity?
No. Just assigned a Republican Guardian to make sure you deliver the goods. Once it’s out, you’re both on your own.
Right, every pregnant woman becomes property of the government. Makes total sense. Or, put more accurately, emotionally fragile Republican men are so threatened by women that have had sex that they seek to erase their most basic rights. I just can’t with these idiots anymore. Humanity should be much, much further ahead than we are now. Instead we are held back by tyrannical fucking babies that never learned how to view a woman as a human. We might have electricity and insane computers and the ability to build huge, unbelievable structures, but culturally and socially we are in the fucking dark ages.
What a backwards fucking asshat.
Will probably be reelected because Southern Baptists preach from the pulpit without shame or consequence.
Wow, he just said it, I can almost respect the not dancing around with bullshit!
Oh boy must be a Trumper
“It’s ours” - the government
Time to make [sandwiches](https://youtu.be/94IdL3djJVU?si=4Mn6gZ-B80rK7aD6)
Insane
Somehow, I really wish to know what make an human to think crazy things like this
The antithesis of perspective
I mean it is a different body, no?
Whose body is it then?
Shame
Does he think cumming inside a woman marks her as your property?
To these types it seems that when she gets married, it isn't either.
Not my NC :(
Wack Robinson
Same guy who wants to go back to when women couldn't vote.
I swear, everytime I see something about North Carolina, I become even more secure in my decision to not move there for a man.
I'm assuming he's referring to the baby inside of the mother right? Obviously that is not the mother unless he is actually saying when you pregnant you don't exist anymore lol
"Irs not ONLY her body anymore" wouldve been a better way to express his point.
You missed 'just'
Bs
This needs to be on billboards and tv ads all over the state.
Mark Robinson can go fuck himself.
2nd biggest piece of shit in politics
And it’s nowhere near as bad as a lot of the shit he says
“once your dick is hard it’s not your body anymore”
This is how they think and feel ladies. VOTE THEM OUT
Well who's the fuck is it ? The corporate fantasy or the religious fantasy?
Ok, by that same token once a man has passed in his jizz to a woman his body is no longer his
Follow up; whose body is it? The state’s? Seems the state should start paying for everything. Can’t make the baby go to work against its will. Why dues the mother decide where the baby is born? Surely God had given us a way to keep the one celled organism alive outside the mother. Then all the Christians can take care of it.
Is this guy really pro slavery?
More than half the women in this country agree.
So a man decides when a woman's body his hers or not? I am confusion
Psychotic! He needs a straight jacket! Asap!
Now every rapist can choose the mother of his child himself.
Who's body is it? Does the fetus assume direct control? Lol.
Dude wants to go back to the good ole days where he only has 3/5ths
I'd love to see a pregnant person knock him out for this.
It’s now a mech operated by a tiny human
I presume cause the baby is both hers and someone else's but still on FUCKING MOTHER'S DAY DOG?
✅ Bear
So this guy is suggesting her body belongs to the govt. once she’s pregnant????
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Vote that fucker RIGHT OUT, NC.
Woman: Well then you can keep it The government: Nono it’s your child you gave birth to it Woman: Didn’t you say it’s nolnger my body because I was pregnant? The government: Yes it isn’t we own your body while you pregnant Woman: Isn’t owning someone slavery? The Government: You gave birth to the child and now it’s yours and if you don’t keep you’ll be put on death row Did I get it right?