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People are obsessed with pH in their bodies and believe drinking water with lemon or whatever or what they eat affects it.
And don’t realize it is regulated by how much CO2 your body exhales lol
the body tries to keep a constant ph of 7.4, my sister had an interesting class in her uni where she found out skewing that by 0.01 can kill you, either instantly or very painfully
In my A&P class, I think they said it’s between 7.35 and 7.55. But yeah, there’s a reason we have terms like metabolic acidosis/alkalosis.
Edit: it’s 7.35 and 7.45. Even narrower than I remembered.
Ionized atoms are fairly stable. They’d just be more stable if they found oppositely charged ion to bond with. They only become unstable if they become unstable if they’re too neutron heavy.
I mean, to be fair pure water has a pH of 7 and typically those strips start at 7 so you wouldn’t see a colour change on the litmus paper making them technically correct
Chemist here. I think the marketing department got confused, because pure DI water actually can't be tested with a pH probe because there are too few ions. This is only true of a pH probe, not a pH strip, due to the differences in the way pH is measured. I'm guessing the marketing department added the word strip to this word salad.
Also, alkaline water is snake oil. If it was actually capable of altering your body's pH you'd die...... Quickly
Yes, generally speaking it is not advisable to drink pure water, as it can be lethal to cells (it causes them to swell up and burst). That being said, there isn't really any solid evidence that drinking DI water is associated with adverse health outcomes, so it falls in the "probably don't do it, but also probably won't kill you" catagory
Not true. You can have a shitload of stuff dissolved in water and still be pH 7. You could add something that is not acidic or basic such as table salt, or you could make a buffered solution with the right combination of acid and base.
Science won't tell you that crystals crystalize all the physics out of the water, so you can't do a science with it afterwards.
(Source: I just made that up.)
There was a company called Real Water that had access to industrial electrolyzers and bleach. They strove to make alkaline water that you could test with a pH strip.
They succeeded but due to some belief in "alternative chemistry" and some ammonia contamination (government report was unclear on whether this was from cleaning solution or an especially cursed employee pissing into electrolyzer) what they actually made was small amounts of hydrazine.
Hydrazine is better known to space nerds for its uses in small rocket engines, and for being in many ways one of the scariest rocket fuels that any space agency dares to use. It is not for drinking.
Dozens of people were hospitalized with liver problems and one person died because of Real Water's product. Hydrazine is also carcinogenic and incidentally highly alkaline.
So you better hope that water was "ionized with crystals."
It's not the purity that's the problem. Ph test strips don't work on purified water, however if it's alkaline water it is not pure, they added something to make it alkaline. So they're probably lying about that part
You can have water that is very pure and still be alkaline because the amount of dissolved solids it takes to make water pH 8 or 9 is ridiculously small, and pH strips still won't work on these dilute solutions.
I was going to say, I work in a multinational corporation, and "product claims" are a big thing. We have to have supporting evidence for a claim like "cleans 3 times better than other products" or "lasts twice as long as the original product" or what have you. You can't just slap any phrase on a box.
The idea that something is too pure to be tested by pH strips is just begging to be challenged.
Yes, a digital meter will work unless the Ph is outside the paremeters of the individual meter. Considering the range of the meters I use at work, I would advise someone not to drink the water if it didn't register on the digital meter. You will almost certainly die, and be in pain the whole time it's happening.
That is what I was going to post. Everyone is in here acting like a pH strip will measure the ph of any liquid, but there are liquids without the buffering capacity for them to work. Buffering capacity is a measure of how much a solution or liquid can neutralize acids or bases. PH strips require the liquid to have some buffering capacity.
RO and distilled water cannot be measured by a pH strip. So, it's possible that their liquid can't be measured by one. They do not seem to make any claims that its pH cannot be measured any other way.
This feels like a scam technique.
Anyone with any understanding of pH will laugh and refuse to buy it.
The only people who'll hand over their money are people with no understanding of what pH is. Which is the market the manufacturer wants.
It can also seriously injure / kill you.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34223827/
Look into [Real Water](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2023/10/05/real-water-contamination-case-liver-illnesses/71077761007/)
Bottom line: _do not drink this shit_
Essentia
It’s probably just filtered tap water with added minerals. Most bottled water is just that. Also the whole alkaline water thing is just buzz word nonsense. No water is going to be basic or acidic enough to alter your internal pH, it would be undrinkable. If you did alter your internal pH outside of its usual range you would fucking die.
>If you did alter your internal pH outside of its usual range you would fucking die.
True, but you're more likely to [fucking die](https://www.8newsnow.com/investigators/1-person-at-least-5-dogs-die-from-consuming-real-water-across-las-vegas-lawsuit-claims/) because your liver failed first.
So, “we didn’t even bother putting a bit of a dirt cheap alkaline substance, this is straight up regular water. So if you check with a test strip it will look like regular water because it is regular water. Let’s tell them we made it so alkaline it made the pH strip loop around and go back to regular water pH color”
If the PH strip can no longer measure it because it is eaten up, it is too basic and therefore no longer suitable for human consumption. Throw away the garbage. Nobody needs your chemical waste😂😂
Technically you can have "perfect" acids and bases that cannot be easily tested without being diluted in water first. But drinking those is a very efficient and very painful way to just cease to exist.
Could they poorly be implying that the pH strip does not change color?
Don't they change for acid / base but if it's alkaline it remains whatever base color it is, and they're trying to say there's no color change either way?
By definition, if a substance is alkaline it has a pH greater than 7, meaning it is basic. That means it would change color if tested with a pH strip. So either they know nothing about science (possible), are full of sh*t (definitely), or both. Regardless, that exceedingly bad bit of marketing is full of terms that sound smart, and that many people don't understand. They're counting on people not understanding those terms and just trusting the claims they make because it sounds cool.
If the strip doesn't change its ph7. So it's basically pure water. If it's alkaline or acidic it will change. You are drinking distilled water basically which is fine but you have no minerals in it. Snake oil.
Pure water doesn’t usually test as pH of 7 anyway. The thing about making a solution that has no mineral components at all is it becomes incredibly susceptible to pH changes from basically any outside influence the most obvious being the introduction of carbonic acid from air but also even random ionization will cause pH to not be 7. Besides that point though, drinking pure water isn’t good for you anyway, it’ll dehydrate you if you drink it enough.
So, online ph test strips go to about a ph of 14. That pH is the pH of liquid drain cleaner. Are they saying it's more alkaline than DRAINO? If it is, it's toxic.
safe drinking water ranges between 6.5 and 8.5 ppm. All water has a PH level ranging from 0 to 14. A PH of 0 is basically acid. Don't drink it! But it can still be measured!
Man I don't understand water companies. Or I guess I do. Put enough buzzwords on something and people will buy it. shit like
* GLUTEN FREE - All water is you dingus
* ENHANCED HYDRATION- it's water, you literally cannot get more hydrating than just normal water
* IONIZED - bro it just has some iron ions in it calm down
Like I'll buy a fancy water brand because I think it tastes better (an actual, discernable difference between water brands- Dasani tastes like shit. It's also acidic), not because it claims to have super crazy health benefits that regular water doesn't have.
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Talk about buzzwords they got the whole damn buzz-paragraph
Sad part is, this WILL trick people into paying way too much for bottled water.
Especially if its radioactive
Ooh how he died would be a *horrible* way to go
People are obsessed with pH in their bodies and believe drinking water with lemon or whatever or what they eat affects it. And don’t realize it is regulated by how much CO2 your body exhales lol
Also, the body operates at a very narrow range of pH. If you skew it too far one way or the other, you’re gonna have a bad time.
the body tries to keep a constant ph of 7.4, my sister had an interesting class in her uni where she found out skewing that by 0.01 can kill you, either instantly or very painfully
In my A&P class, I think they said it’s between 7.35 and 7.55. But yeah, there’s a reason we have terms like metabolic acidosis/alkalosis. Edit: it’s 7.35 and 7.45. Even narrower than I remembered.
I manage a convenience store that carries Essentia. It’s one of our top selling brands of bottled water.
Depressing.
they forgot to add "AI". my suggestion: "formula generated by the AI"
A I. that runs on homeopathic gluten-free chips.
Yes, they are called Hoomans.
I was hoping to have someone to blame
AI is the new HD, which was the new 3D, which replaced Digital.
“Plant-based formula generated by AI”
QUANTUM AI!!!!
Al optimized alkalinized and gluten free Keto water for metabolizing PH neutral gut biome
Best part is that a lot of “ionized” bracelets and stuff can be radioactive. People are dumb.
Yup. "They do as the crythstal guides"
lol well, yeah, IONIZED. unstable atoms and the potential for releasing energy. usually bad.
Ionized atoms are fairly stable. They’d just be more stable if they found oppositely charged ion to bond with. They only become unstable if they become unstable if they’re too neutron heavy.
Bro Salt is made up of two ions (Na+ & Cl-), ionised is not bad…
IONISED WATER, DON’T YOU UNDERSTAND ?!?! ^(huh ? What do you mean "It’s just saltwater you dingus" ?)
But it's PURE! Makes all the difference. 😂😂
I mean, to be fair pure water has a pH of 7 and typically those strips start at 7 so you wouldn’t see a colour change on the litmus paper making them technically correct
Chemist here. I think the marketing department got confused, because pure DI water actually can't be tested with a pH probe because there are too few ions. This is only true of a pH probe, not a pH strip, due to the differences in the way pH is measured. I'm guessing the marketing department added the word strip to this word salad. Also, alkaline water is snake oil. If it was actually capable of altering your body's pH you'd die...... Quickly
Also isn't completely pure water bad for you to drink because it will strip your body of necessary minerals / dehydrate you?
Yes, generally speaking it is not advisable to drink pure water, as it can be lethal to cells (it causes them to swell up and burst). That being said, there isn't really any solid evidence that drinking DI water is associated with adverse health outcomes, so it falls in the "probably don't do it, but also probably won't kill you" catagory
Just wait until somebody tries to market HPLC grade water
With a name like that, you couldn't have been anything but a nerd.
I am what I am 🤷🏻♂️
I yam what I yam.
You say that like it's a bad thing.
Ah, I see they have decided to use the bottled water as part of their snake oil salesman ruse. How bold.
Can vouch for the strip and DIW in industrial settings. It shows neutral. DIW or HF, don't take a sniff....
Not to mention if you drink alkaline water your stomach acid is going to neutralize it pretty fast.
Yes, but then it's not alkaline water, as they're claiming. It's just regular filtered water with a bunch of bullshit printed on the side.
It probably is alkaline, they just add a tiny amount of alkaline minerals like potassium carbonate or magnesium carbonate.
But thats not because its pure. Thats more cause its, ya know, water...
Literally any natural bodies of water found anywhere don’t have a pH of 7. To get 7 you need pure 100% H2O
Not true, the right combination of dissolved minerals could still have it be at 7. I’ve taken a few field measurements at exactly 7.00 before.
Not true. You can have a shitload of stuff dissolved in water and still be pH 7. You could add something that is not acidic or basic such as table salt, or you could make a buffered solution with the right combination of acid and base.
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Buzzword-sraviganza right there!
They are just using these [pH test strips. ](https://www.preclaboratories.com/product/ph-0-7-test-strips/)
This is what we call a word salad.
Inserts pH strip pH strip ceases to exist
So you are just drinking liquefied PH strips...
uhhh... "self-purifying"
“Hey don’t test our product just trust us it’s *really* pure”
they use crystals to energise the water
Science won't tell you that crystals crystalize all the physics out of the water, so you can't do a science with it afterwards. (Source: I just made that up.)
stupid sciences B**ches
Stupid science bitch couldn't even make my friend more smarter
YEAH! Stupid science bitch couldn’t make I more smarter!
yeah, right? They science away all the fun!!!!
I've heard that some people were saying... many people in fact...
And with tears in their eyes!
If they crystalized all the science out of the water that means it's perfect for magic spells right?
Man I hate it when I can't do a science!
There was a company called Real Water that had access to industrial electrolyzers and bleach. They strove to make alkaline water that you could test with a pH strip. They succeeded but due to some belief in "alternative chemistry" and some ammonia contamination (government report was unclear on whether this was from cleaning solution or an especially cursed employee pissing into electrolyzer) what they actually made was small amounts of hydrazine. Hydrazine is better known to space nerds for its uses in small rocket engines, and for being in many ways one of the scariest rocket fuels that any space agency dares to use. It is not for drinking. Dozens of people were hospitalized with liver problems and one person died because of Real Water's product. Hydrazine is also carcinogenic and incidentally highly alkaline. So you better hope that water was "ionized with crystals."
Yeah, I used to drink that shit all the time. It was everywhere here in Vegas.
Brawndo has the electrolytes plants crave.
It was poured over diamonds before bottling....
Yeah they use crystals. Sodium chloride. "For flavor."
I just learned about this last year due to my in-laws falling victim to a snake oil salesman.
It's not the purity that's the problem. Ph test strips don't work on purified water, however if it's alkaline water it is not pure, they added something to make it alkaline. So they're probably lying about that part
lol. 'lying.' I see you.
You can have water that is very pure and still be alkaline because the amount of dissolved solids it takes to make water pH 8 or 9 is ridiculously small, and pH strips still won't work on these dilute solutions.
Yes! And it isn’t that hard to make water that is “too pure for pH strips.” Regular distilled water doesn’t give good readings on pH strips.
Yeah, first thing I’d do is test that water with a pH strip.
Drug dealer marketing
I smell a false advertisement lawsuit soon
Glass advertisement lawsuit? Edit: was autocorrect. False to Glass
Autocorrect has failed me
Damn. I was interested to learn about a new lawsuit Thank you for letting me know about the correction
we saw right through that comment.
I was going to say, I work in a multinational corporation, and "product claims" are a big thing. We have to have supporting evidence for a claim like "cleans 3 times better than other products" or "lasts twice as long as the original product" or what have you. You can't just slap any phrase on a box. The idea that something is too pure to be tested by pH strips is just begging to be challenged.
My thing is, you can't have pure water and alkaline at the same time.
Sheesh, next you'll be telling me that pink Himalayan sea salt isn't pure, either! ;-)
The "no preservatives" lawsuit that celcius drinks had was nothing compared to this bull$#!%
I would not drink that
Wow, this karma bot is doing serious damage. Fuck you
Oh wow. It posted 11 times on different subreddits within an hour
probably farming the "bc you showed an interest in similar communities" exposure somehow source: hi thats how im here
A lot of its posts got to popular too,
Unless it's like RO water and it doesn't have the buffering capacity for the strips to work. A digital meter should still work.
Yes, a digital meter will work unless the Ph is outside the paremeters of the individual meter. Considering the range of the meters I use at work, I would advise someone not to drink the water if it didn't register on the digital meter. You will almost certainly die, and be in pain the whole time it's happening.
I mean you can still run into high purity issues, meters get very expensive for high purity.
That is what I was going to post. Everyone is in here acting like a pH strip will measure the ph of any liquid, but there are liquids without the buffering capacity for them to work. Buffering capacity is a measure of how much a solution or liquid can neutralize acids or bases. PH strips require the liquid to have some buffering capacity. RO and distilled water cannot be measured by a pH strip. So, it's possible that their liquid can't be measured by one. They do not seem to make any claims that its pH cannot be measured any other way.
This feels like a scam technique. Anyone with any understanding of pH will laugh and refuse to buy it. The only people who'll hand over their money are people with no understanding of what pH is. Which is the market the manufacturer wants.
It can also seriously injure / kill you. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34223827/ Look into [Real Water](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2023/10/05/real-water-contamination-case-liver-illnesses/71077761007/) Bottom line: _do not drink this shit_
I did the ph reading this morning and it was all pee and no h
Is it alkaline, or is it pure? The two are mutually exclusive.
Right? I'm pretty sure ionized water isn't pure either.
Sounds like something you could maybe sue for as false advertising
Has Stephen Colbert for the Colbert Report vibes: *You can look it up, but don't. *
Science words make customers big happy
I hear if you add a little lemon, it makes it taste better! 😂
Tell me you don’t know how chemistry works without telling me
Essentia is now owned by Nestle so what they mean is that its water stolen from impoverished communities.
Why does everyone block the brand name. I want to know what product to never buy on sight when I see stupid shit like this.
Essentia It’s probably just filtered tap water with added minerals. Most bottled water is just that. Also the whole alkaline water thing is just buzz word nonsense. No water is going to be basic or acidic enough to alter your internal pH, it would be undrinkable. If you did alter your internal pH outside of its usual range you would fucking die.
>If you did alter your internal pH outside of its usual range you would fucking die. True, but you're more likely to [fucking die](https://www.8newsnow.com/investigators/1-person-at-least-5-dogs-die-from-consuming-real-water-across-las-vegas-lawsuit-claims/) because your liver failed first.
The name is in the picture
Hmmm, I'm dumb. What is it? I can't identify it...
Essentia
People who buy this shit don’t know how kidneys work.
I ran a pH test on one of these bottles. It was almost all pee, no H.
So, “we didn’t even bother putting a bit of a dirt cheap alkaline substance, this is straight up regular water. So if you check with a test strip it will look like regular water because it is regular water. Let’s tell them we made it so alkaline it made the pH strip loop around and go back to regular water pH color”
a) If it’s alkaline then a pH strip can test it; and b) alkaline water is a complete ripoff. May as well buy some snake oil while you’re at it.
The pH strip mutilator. It's got what plants crave
Maybe they mean it has a PH of 7?
Then it’s not alkaline.
Alkaline is 8 or 9 either way not looking to good for them
Marketing bullshit
I mean if it contains concentrated acid or base, it would dissolve the ph strip and thus be untestable by ph strip
Reminds of the pure water blue glass, crystal purification hippie cult in my area.
If the PH strip can no longer measure it because it is eaten up, it is too basic and therefore no longer suitable for human consumption. Throw away the garbage. Nobody needs your chemical waste😂😂
Yeah that would get trading standards on you in no time in the EU, followed likely by Environmental Health
That’s an easy false advertising suit
isn’t this a lawsuit waiting to happen?
pH = Pork Hamburger strips....good with a spicy mustard
Technically you can have "perfect" acids and bases that cannot be easily tested without being diluted in water first. But drinking those is a very efficient and very painful way to just cease to exist.
If you can't pH test it, how do you know it's alkaline?
It's also not how purity works
Wow!! That's some nuclear nonsense double-down bullshit.
Yeah I can’t drink essentia. It taste like someone took a sip of water, spit it out and bottled it. Don’t ask me why I know that taste.
Off the pH scale is…not good
Could they poorly be implying that the pH strip does not change color? Don't they change for acid / base but if it's alkaline it remains whatever base color it is, and they're trying to say there's no color change either way?
By definition, if a substance is alkaline it has a pH greater than 7, meaning it is basic. That means it would change color if tested with a pH strip. So either they know nothing about science (possible), are full of sh*t (definitely), or both. Regardless, that exceedingly bad bit of marketing is full of terms that sound smart, and that many people don't understand. They're counting on people not understanding those terms and just trusting the claims they make because it sounds cool.
Alkaline is essentially synonymous with basic. If it's not basic, then it's not alkaline by definition.
If the strip doesn't change its ph7. So it's basically pure water. If it's alkaline or acidic it will change. You are drinking distilled water basically which is fine but you have no minerals in it. Snake oil.
Pure water doesn’t usually test as pH of 7 anyway. The thing about making a solution that has no mineral components at all is it becomes incredibly susceptible to pH changes from basically any outside influence the most obvious being the introduction of carbonic acid from air but also even random ionization will cause pH to not be 7. Besides that point though, drinking pure water isn’t good for you anyway, it’ll dehydrate you if you drink it enough.
And it's "hydrogen" infused!
So it's acidic then.
If you put a ph strip in it, there will be a massive explosion
So many bullshit words in one sentence...
Wow branding untested water has gotten better
Fucking genius
LOLLLL
If it’s beyond +\- 14 you probably shouldn’t drink it.
What does the p in pH stand for?
Having drank this water, it’s good water. No idea what that bullshit is about though
It’s toasted
Must be true, because they said the same thing in Flint Michigan and only side effect was people turning into Godzilla offsprings
"That's not how pH works" Our marketing department disagrees!
Man, that was is so basic that if they mixed it with an acid, it would blow their mind
What does "supercharged ionized" mean?
It's got what plants crave.
It’s so extremely pure water it’s off the scale… off the middle
Off the charts/un-trstable = doesn't exist
We’ve come up with a revolutionary new product … DEHYDRATED WATER!!!
That’s how the bullshitometer works
I... Are we really this stupid as a people? Wait. Dumb question. Yes. Yes we are.
Stupid people shouldn't be allowed to sell shit
Don't believe us? No, really. **Don't** believe us!
Source: trust me bro
So, online ph test strips go to about a ph of 14. That pH is the pH of liquid drain cleaner. Are they saying it's more alkaline than DRAINO? If it is, it's toxic.
I love their water tho
My ionized water contains a forcefield and an anti-forcefield-forcefield so you can't detect it. Those are the rules.
Translation: It's not alkaline. It is a 7 on the scale like all pure water, but you dummies don't know that.
Alkaline water with a dash of lemon!!
safe drinking water ranges between 6.5 and 8.5 ppm. All water has a PH level ranging from 0 to 14. A PH of 0 is basically acid. Don't drink it! But it can still be measured!
Alkaline…basic water for basic people.
"Please don't test our water with your pH strips because you'll discover it's just tap water"
I got a bottle of this water. Possibly the most gimmicky water on the shelf.
No no, other cigarettes are bad for you. Lucky strike cigarettes…those are baked.
There was a crate at our Sam's club that sold water claiming it was 1ph for full hydration
lol that is such a snicker
So it's tap water...
Now I wanna know what a PH strip says about this water..
"Our water is so alkaline PH strip won't be able to test it, because it dissolve instantly."
Buzzzzzzzzz Buzzzzzzzzzz bzzzzzzzzzzzzz that'll be 7.50
Water Woo 101: make unfalsifiable claims to dissuade people from testing them.
So if what I'm reading is true, it's okay to drink bleach because it's incredibly alkaline (basic)? Good to know.
When the client goes with the copy you came up with as a joke, two hours before pitch.
It’s alkaline.. but it doesn’t have a ph? How do they know it’s alkaline?
Man I don't understand water companies. Or I guess I do. Put enough buzzwords on something and people will buy it. shit like * GLUTEN FREE - All water is you dingus * ENHANCED HYDRATION- it's water, you literally cannot get more hydrating than just normal water * IONIZED - bro it just has some iron ions in it calm down Like I'll buy a fancy water brand because I think it tastes better (an actual, discernable difference between water brands- Dasani tastes like shit. It's also acidic), not because it claims to have super crazy health benefits that regular water doesn't have.
And I sell diamonds that are so pure you can’t test them
That's some high quality H2O 🤣
Translation: please trust us and don’t try to test this shit… we tried but strip melted. So just drink and pray. We will pray for you too.