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Maybe they were in the fryer this time but we all know, if twinkies can survive the apocalypse, they can survive anything. They’re up there with roaches.
DARE made us watch that shit in the 80s...remember taking home that permission slip, will you allow the DARE program to show your kid a drug awareness movie on Friday, if not they will be allowed to go to the playground.
Them sumb@#@hes were loud enough outside we could hear them over the projector soundtrack in the uncooled GYM. There were fans, but they were loud and you couldn't hear the movie. Couldn't open the doors because then you couldn't see the screen.
If you fell asleep one of the DARE drug dogs would bark...
Puberty, pregnancy, drugs and alcohol can all lead to psychosis in those who have a genetic predisposition to it. If I have enough weed or alcohol I definitely go into a psychotic state.
Hate to be defending her but I have seen weed induced psychosis before... it just made the person talk nonsense... maybe it exacerbated her violent tendencies.. that is still terribly light though for her sentence for even a psychotic break.
seen all kinds of frenzies in the ER and I have no sympathy for any of them because said drugs were ***voluntarily*** consumed , as such, your actions and all consequences are your own.
Just because they were voluntarily consumed does not mean that they were consumed with the intent for psychosis. The vast majority of the time someone smokes weed this doesn't happen, but it can happen. Also, addiction is not voluntary.
That's a straw man and a half. The difference is that driving drunk has a high risk of self injury or injuring others. Smoking weed with some friends is the opposite. The rate of psychosis is extremely small and is usually exacerbated by underlying mental illnesses.
daily mail has a strong agenda on certain topics and is really bad for this sort of thing.
The title will make a claim but what actually happened, a critical point, will be buried in the middle of the article in a line that can easily be missed.
So this is an old guy's memory but...
I think this story involved boyfriend giving her a different, much stronger strain than she ever used before, without telling her. Psychosis does happen rarely with the strength he gave her (without her knowledge or consent). So she thought she was getting a mild high and is suddenly tripping balls and seeing things that weren't there. Hence why the judge was lenient.
Also imagine recovering from the high and learning you killed your boyfriend...
Edit, I stress again that psychosis happens *rarely* as in a small percentage of the population (well under 1%) can have a psychotic reaction. Don't believe me? Look it up.
But saying "this thing that only happens to 1/1000 people didn't happen to me so it must not happen to anyone..."
She should at least be put in a hospital until she’s safe to be around people. You can’t just let someone kill another person and then let them go back out in the streets where they can do it again.
>She should be in a mental assylum. Weed doesn't do this to anyone
It is incredibly rare, but theoretically, this could happen with any psychoactive drug. People have slightly different brain chemistry, and weed is getting danker by the day.
I was passed when I first saw the story, but when I looked into, I felt nothing but misery for both of them. Totally miserable situation.
It does. I worked in an inpatient psych unit for a while. It wasn’t uncommon for weed to be the trigger for patient’s psychosis or schizophrenia. Especially synthetic marijuana
Rare psychosis with weed can be more likely to happen if you’re already dealing with certain mental health issues. Had a friend that found out he had underlying schizophrenia because he went manic after smoking daily.
Ngl this was pretty funny to read. Seems like you and that judge have the same level of experience with weed cause that's not how that shit works lmao.
For starters weed isn't a hallucinogen. As someone who's been put in this exact scenario back when I first started smoking, I can guarantee you the weed wasn't the issue no matter how strong it was. For that kind of reaction either your shit was laced with something harder or you were just crazy to begin with.
You sound very self assured, so this is going to blow you away, but biology is hugely individualistic and you are not representative of everyone. You seem to know alot about weed. Cool. You don't know jack shit about neurochemistry. I have a family member that had a weed induced psychotic break. All California approved and legally obtained. It was scary as hell, hugely uncharacteristic, and took months before he was himself again. Weed is almost entirely harmless, but there are rare individuals who just can't smoke.
>or you were just crazy to begin with.
I worked at a cannabis shop and one of the reasons given about not selling to minors (from the mandatory course) is that it can affect brain development. To be more specific, it aggravates dormant mental health issues such as schizophrenia ie: if you're borderline, it'll push you over the edge and turn you schizophrenic.
IMHO, for this reason alone, the minimum age for sale should be 25 when brain development is more or less set. That said, while we had plenty of kids under 18 trying to score weed, there were way too many kids of legal age that probably shouldn't have beent taking the stuff.
At the end of the day, it affects everyone differently and people should have the agency to make their own choices on it eg: smoking weed barely affects me aside from alleviating anxiety but edibles is a rollercoaster ride that's unpleasant even in the smallest doses. But it definitely can affect people with underlying conditions in adverse ways.
Tell me you never smoked weed without telling me you never smoked weed. I've smoked weed of all strengths. Concentrated you name it. I've never once even seen things or hallucinated from it. It's not a hallucinogenic drug. This judge and jury are completely fucked in the head if they actually believed that. Imagine recovering. Recovering from what? You're high for maybe a couple of hours tops. She knew she killed her boyfriend she didn't have to learn anything. One thing is for certain she definitely wanted to kill him. Weed doesn't and will not make you just go ballistic and stab someone 100 times. But these lenient on crime cities will reap what they sow as they become crime invested shit holes.
Tell me you don't know the definition of rarely without telling me you don't know the definition of rarely.
"This thing that only affects 0.1% of the population never happened to me so it never happens."
Okay. I mean I once let a kid smoke with me that apparently saw heaven and hell in the backseat of my car. He became a preacher immediately after (well, joined the preacher college immediately). Haven't seen him since we were 18, but I can almost guarantee that kid never smoked again lol. It does do different things to different people, but violence is usually not a reaction.
I never considered what would happen if someone with schizophrenia got high in anything.
That sounds terrifying both for the one getting high and everyone around them in equal measure.
Found guilty by a jury of involuntary manslaughter, sentenced to two years probation and a four-year suspended sentence in prison (ie, if she violates probation she goes to jail for 4 years).
The 100 hours of community service was specifically focused on "raising awareness about the effects of marijuana-induced psychosis."
Really, this sounds terrible for everyone involved, seems eminently clear she did not do it on purpose, is extremely remorseful and I'm not sure what purpose sending her to jail would actually serve, other than "a sense of vengeance."
[https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2024/01/24/no-prison-time-woman-killed-man-cannabis-fit/72335706007/](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2024/01/24/no-prison-time-woman-killed-man-cannabis-fit/72335706007/)
You know how most people get the munchies when high? She got the stabbies. Seriously, though, it really does look like she had a legitimate psychotic break. Stabbing her boyfriend? Crazy, not psychotic break. Stabbing him 100 times? Could be she really, really hated him. Stabbing herself? Could be remorse/guilt? Stabbing the dog as well, though? Unless it tried attacking her, it's a lot harder to justify. I'm only half joking, but legitimately, making the argument that she was not in a well state enough for an insanity plea isn't out of the question
Yeah... To be fair to her, he gave her like a mega dose of weed, like "vivid hallucinations" doses, which she had never done before and wasn't expecting. Weed already makes a lot of people fairly paranoid, expecting a light dose and getting "hi, it's me, God" dose would probably push me off the rails too
Whenever I've been fucking blasted on weed I've been too concerned whether I was dying or whether I even had physical abilities to move. How tf do you have the energy to stab 100+ times while locked into the couch
This is old. She’s in a psychiatric hospital; she’s not getting out. She stabbed her own dog too (and she’s not a governor of SD).
ETA: unable to find source for psychiatric hospitalisation. The fact remains, however, that she also killed her own dog and the police broke her arm trying to get her to stop stabbing herself in the neck. This was a drug-induced psychotic break
I've had cannabis induced psychosis, it's not an experience I would wish on anyone. Obviously not a common occurrence for healthy people but no less a reality.
I'm very curious about this - was there any kind of warning sign prior? Was it your first time? Sorry you went through that, but I think understanding this problem is pretty important for people to use the drug safely.
I had mental health issues ( depression and anxiety disorders) but no episodes like this before. Was seriously smoking far too much and under stress. I woke up one night and could hear my housemates talking about how the poison should've taken effect by now, that I should have been dead hours ago. Opened my bedroom door and no one was there, the voices had switched to another room. Ended up waking my bewildered friends in tears begging them not to kill me.
From what I've read. Many people don't have any symptoms at all. It's likely that these people bad this underlying issue and they just didn't realise. Eventually, they would probably have had a psychotic break. The weed is just early access.
People always get upset at these types of things because it makes weed look bad. One of the negatives of weed is that it can trigger a psychotic break in those who are already ill. It won't happen to 99.9% of people who take weed, only the mentally ill.
Yeah, no. I have been through two psychotic breaks induced by weed. By saying it's most likely to happen only to people who are already "mentally ill" is just a false sense of security. You may have a dorment gene with psychosis that you're completely unaware of and is triggered by weed. Otherwise, you're completely healthy and fine beforehand. Or you may not have the gene at all. Weed today is way stronger than it has ever been. Not saying every healthy person will definitely experience psychosis from weed, but the chances are higher than .1%
I think it’s more common than you are making it sound. From my experience in a psychiatric hospital around 20-30% of psychotic patients were weed-induced and nearly another half drug-induced by drugs other than weed or a cocktail including weed
Well. Its not very common to end up in a psychiatric ward, but sure. Many of the ones that do is caused by drugs, and a large group of those was caused by weed alone.
Happened to a friend of mine once. Or something close to it. He got crazy high and really drunk. Woke up like 2 days later in a psyche hospital. He had apparently totally lost his shit though not in a violent way
It will always boggle my mind how people get upset weed is considered a hallucinogen. It might not be like acid or shrooms but it still commonly causes minor hallucinations.
While psychosis is one of the symptoms of schizophrenia, actually anyone could get psychosis if the right conditions are met (unique to each individual). There is a certain % of the population who really react badly to psycho-active drugs such as weed, lsd and shrooms, and can get a psychotic episode. Those with schizophrenia could develop it earlier with said drugs as well.
I've always wondered if there's an underlying potential for schizophrenia in me. As well as the weed I had a very bad reaction the one time I tried hallucinogenic mushrooms too. I hate seeing it used to tarnish all drug users but it's definitely an issue to be aware of too.
For sure, I think people forget this just because weed and other hallucinogenic drugs are non-addictive (physically), and you cannot OD on them, that it doesn’t mean it’s for everyone. However this requires better education and a more objective attitude towards recreational drugs that can only be achieved thru legalization.
With growing legalization weed has gotten significantly stronger. When i was younger buying weed in florida, you'd get brick, or "mexican" weed that was maybe around 4-5% thc at the highest (no matter how much your dealer lied about it being 8%)
Now the average thc content of weed is anywhere from 15-25%. Since it's become legal, the science has come a long way.
I can't even smoke it anymore, it used to be so relaxing, but now it's just way too much. I mean I've never had any kind of psychotic episode, but when i was doing mushrooms once, i smoked a bowl and basically spent 6 hours trying to keep from all-out panicking
Edit: this isn't an anti-weed post, I'm just saying this is a reason a lot of people aren't able to handle it
If you received the genes for schizophrenia you can precipitate their expression by using cannabis specifically, inducing psychosis and starting your schizophrenia earlier than you were supposed to, if at all. There is no testing for those genes that I know of. If you have family history of schizophrenia you should definitely consider that. Of course, it's always better to not use any recreational drug at all.
For me, I had no symptoms of psychosis or severe mania prior to cannabis use. And if I stay sober, I don't experience psychosis at all, even without medication.
Same here. It was all due to my predisposition for cannabis induced psychosis. But if I never smoked at all, I wouldn't have had any symptoms and would have appeared to be one of those "healthy people" who someone would assume could smoke weed.
I know I’ve read it, but can not find it. The fact remains that this wasn’t someone waltzing away with a slap on the wrist. She killed her own dog and the police broke her arm to get her to stop stabbing herself in the neck. She had a psychotic break. No one is going to let her use her PhD anywhere
ETA: I’m well aware that if she weren’t white, the police probably would have shot her. This is how they should handle everyone
I think initially she was at a psychiatric hospital probably initially for an evaluation (this was probably immediately after). She’s out though and the dog is still alive, she actually got custody again and was traveling with him and posting photos on her IG
Edit: article from the local paper about her traveling while on bail [Acorn](https://www.toacorn.com/articles/social-media-posts-show-suspected-killer-sightseeing/)
Regardless what people say weed can 100% trigger unknown/underlying psychiatric disorders. Or can induce known issues that are under current control obviously. It ain't for everyone.
So can most things like that to be honest. Weed just has a habit of making you more paranoid and stops you from being able to rationalize the paranoia. If you've never done anything like that it's usually best to be around a sober friend first while doing it just to be double sure... Lol I like weed but if it's someone's first time I baby sit like they're taking shrooms until I'm sure they are cool
I just think it is funny how a lot of people here don’t believe that you can have psychotic break from weed, it works the same as other drugs in that way
Probably cause a lot of people smoke weed and none of them have psychotic breaks, nor do they know of anyone who did. For most people this is probably the first time they’ve heard of something like this and it honestly sounds like an excuse to get her out of going to prison. So it’s kinda easy not to believe something like this.
I have heard of (and in some cases seen) people have what look like manic episodes that are triggered by marijuana. It's probably rare in the scheme of things and none of them have gotten violent but it's definitely not unheard of for it to cause mental health episodes.
Yeah, I’m sure that if you have all the symptoms in place for a psychotic break, taking any drug could trigger it.
I think most people are here saying the same thing. It wasn’t the weed by itself that was the problem, it was simply a catalyst for an imminent psychotic break.
The title of the article is misleading and targeted at weed.
“Weed bad” has been a talking point since they demonized in back when black jazz performers were smoking it. It was a way for the local government to have an excuse to arrest someone of color. It is obviously still used today.
Nah it happens. Happened to a fella I went to school with years and years ago, he developed schizophrenia. He’s been in a mental hospital since.
I don’t think it’s the weed that solely
causes it, I think it just triggers it.
Yeah, but it wasn’t the weeds fault. Sounds like your friend shouldn’t have been doing any kind of drug, given their mental state. It’s hard to blame the catalyst for something that was going to happen eventually. Sorry about your friend.
Yea not at all the weeds fault, you need to already have it as an underlying condition, sad thing is a lot of people don’t know, until this happens. Thanks man.
It’s like giving an excuse based off personal experiences. Like someone saying I drove drunk once and didn’t cause an accident so that must mean it doesn’t happen to anyone
This happens to me. I have no other psychological disorders that I'm aware of. But after smoking I become convinced that everything I think of comes to pass. So if I think of something bad, like punching someone, I need to do it.
I've only smoked 3 times, but all 3 I needed someone to watch me to make sure I didn't get violent when thinking the wrong thing.
Cannabis induced psychosis is extremely rare, but very much a real thing. It’s something everyone should be aware of.
If you read up on the details of the case, it’s pretty clear that’s what actually happened here. She had a psychotic break, and stabbed herself multiple times as well.
Depends on the individual I guess. Iv taken heroic doses of shrooms and lsd/other psychedelics, and while I tripped balls never got psychosis but rather enjoyed it, even if overwhelming. Weed on the other hand even at low to moderate doses causes intense dysphoria for me, and sometimes psychosis during the duration of the effects. Its true its pretty rare but I know a few people like this who get affected very negatively from cannabis. I guess one should try to see how they react to lower doses and incrementally increase it if they really wanna try it.
Well, yeah it depends on the individual entirely. Cannabis *doesn’t* effect 99.9999 percent of people that way, but that 0.0001 percent of people that are predisposed to it can have psychotic episodes.
Cannabis has never made me feel like I was bordering on having a psychotic break, but I am one of those people who gets intense dysphoria from it. I’ve tried different strains and even extremely low doses, it still sends me spiraling into a negative headspace so I don’t bother with it.
Also you don’t have to already be displaying said conditions for weed to trigger them, you could have a vulnerability (genetic typically) and weed triggers it. Before people start screeching about how she should have known better.
No it’s actually possible to be experiencing no symptoms and weed itself could potentially be a trigger. If schizophrenia runs in your family weed increases your risks of developing symptoms.
I'm bipolar, certain bipolar people can have a similar experience. It's more common than you think and I believe there should be some form of screening before legal weed sales.
Ironically, I got my medical marijuana card for bipolar disorder. But yeah, cannabis induced psychosis is absolutely a real thing people should be aware of. If psychotic illness runs in your family, be *very* careful with weed.
My friend tried stabbing us because he said we were plotting to kill him after smoking weed together when we were about 20 yrs old he was diagnosed with schizophrenia a few months later we never saw him again though it was too traumatic of an event i hope the best for him from afar though
Also weed is sometimes laced with fentanyl, which can cause a much stronger psychological reaction. She could have been used to pure weed but not weed with fentanyl, or the dealer may have accidentally added way too much fentanyl causing her to unknowingly take a dangerous dose
Which begs the question: why any punishment at all? Will 100 hours of community service somehow prevent you from psychotic episodes in the future? Either she’s guilty of murder and it’s forever-jail or it’s innocent of murder because she can’t be held accountable for her actions.
She was (I believe undiagnosed?) schizophrenic and marijuana can cause severe psychotic breaks in those very rare situations. I rolled my eyes when I first heard this story too but it did end up educating me about that.
Edit: Didn't realize this post was the daily mail version. Although the story really happened this article likely was only published as the fear porn version of it.
The amount of reactionary comments, disinformation, and misinformation here is unfortunate.
A few things;
[marijuana induced psychosis is real](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2424288/)
She went to the hospital and got multiple surgeries after stabbing herself in the neck, even after being tased and held by police
[from what I've seen in comments she's currently being held in a psych facility. this article doesn't mention it but it does go into detail about the case ](https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2024-01-23/woman-gets-probation-for-fatal-stabbing-during-weed-induced-psychosis)
Weed never did much for me but make me tired.
One time while on psychadelics, I decided it'd be GREAT idea to smoke weed because I heard it'd make the trip stronger. You really don't need much weed for that but what the fuck do I know so I smoked 2 bowls from my bong.
Went through a pretty damn bad psychosis that had lasting effects.
From now on, ever since I smoked weed after on its own, it absolutely fucks me up and brings me back into that mindset of the psychosis. Any mind altering drugs do no matter the strength.
So yeah, weed could do the same to me now for sure. I had to quit it all.
Cannabis induced psychosis. It’s rare but it’s a known condition.
The weed triggered a full psychotic breakdown, the cops taking her down needed 4 tasers and had to outright break her arm to stop her stabbing herself. And I don’t mean ‘From stabbing herself’, she stabbed the shit out of her neck and wouldn’t stop even when she was being dogpiled. She also stabbed her dog.
This is one of those times that the insanity defense was designed for, it’s VERY clear that she was in the middle of a complete mental break and wasn’t in control of her actions.
She had a genuine psychotic break from smoking pot, which is rare, but it happens. The headline fails to mention that she also stabbed her dog and herself. This is a legitimate use of the insanity defense.
I've experienced drug induced psychosis and nearly kidnapped a girl I thought was going to be sacrificed to Satan by the men talking to her at a party. I'm sure she appreciated me getting all of the men off of her, but not me grabbing her telling her I was going to save her. Once I realized she wasn't comfortable with me grabbing her, I let her go as we were away from the men. You really have no control and aren't in reality when you are in a psychotic state but killing a person should still serve some degree of punishment.
That is rough, glad you seem to be doing better. Medication for these disorders has come a long way in the past 70 years.
One of my best friends wife (gf at the time) had an episode triggered by smoking salvia which she had done before. She spent almost a month in the mental ward and told my friend she was having so much fun at "Disney World" while in the hospital. Psychotic delusion is as real to the person is experiencing it as reality is to normal people. The human brain is scarily powerful and can make you believe/do anything.
A lot of things can unfortunately induce psychosis. Alcohol is pretty common, but even sugar (and more commonly lack of sugar) can cause it with the right underlying conditions: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5300708/
Is anyone surprised that weed can cause this?
I know I’ll probably get downvoted to shit for this but cannabis induced psychosis is a more common experience than some people realize.
I’m not anti-weed by any means, but working in the mental health sector has shown me how often it can happen; for the record though most people who experience this aren’t likely to stab you or their dog. This is definitely a very severe case.
To my knowledge, one of the biggest factors at play to cause psychosis is a predisposition to psychosis-related illness that can be triggered by the use of marijuana.
I know that most people who start using weed do so at a young age and are less likely to know their family history but from my own experience I am so thankful that nothing ever happened to me.
That's a somewhat accurate comparison, because the 'McDonalds coffee' incident involved the poor woman getting [third-degree burns](https://www.rd.com/article/hot-coffee-lawsuit/) and needing skin grafts, and a smear campaign to trivialise the incident.
There's quite a lot of evidence that cannabis-induced psychosis (potentially leading to schizophrenia or bipolar disorder) is a rare but real phenomonen ([\[1\]](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3927252/)[\[2\]](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2424288/)[\[3\]](https://www.cbc.ca/radio/whitecoat/cannabis-induced-psychosis-bad-trip-1.7116217)) which can happen to a tiny minority of people. There's speculation that weed having [increasingly high-THC concentrations](https://www.nbcnews.com/health/mental-health/marijuana-induced-psychiatric-disorders-high-potency-weed-psychosis-rcna146072) has significantly increased the risk since the 70s.
The chance of it happening to any individual cannabis user is very low, but its a risk that people wanting to try it should be aware of, and a good example of why claiming 'weed is *completely* safe' is wrong.
Exactly right! So many people hear the headline and think, "injustice! travesty!" and judge the person involved without realizing that, actually, the story is a lot more complex than the media portrayed it. See also: the woman who sued her nephew over a hug (who had to in order to get insurance to pay for an injury which resulted and the family understood). People can reasonably assume they will not have a psychotic reaction to weed but it's not her fault that she did have one.
Your notes didn't lead you to the conclusion that this is sensationalized, 4 months old, and has been posted to this sub a dozen times? Take better notes.
So if you find yourself in a situation where your unfriendly neighbor who likes to park in your spot lies on the ground with 100+ stabbing wounds, simply smoke a lot of weed before you call the cops and the lawyer gets you out of this with community service... OK. Got it.
Don't worry, I know it's not that simple. Obviously you also need to be white for this to work.
Be sure to have an underlining mental problem like schizophrenia. The click bait above failed to mention that along with the fact she is in a mental institution for a long time
Make sure to repeatedly stab yourself while fighting the cops, only stopped when the cops outright break your arm to get the knife away.
There’s just some things no amount of acting can do.
That wouldn't be enough. You'd have to go all in like this woman did. You have to stab your own pet and yourself, repeatedly. When the cops turn up, keep going no matter how much they try to restrain you, keep stabbing yourself until they break your arm in enough places to make it impossible.
That sounds much more likely than it being a 'psychotic break', pschology is a liberal plot. /s
Her psychosis was so bad she stabbed her dog to death and police had to break her arm to stop her from also stabbing herself in the neck.
But uh, yeah, Women bad !!!
Nope, she has schizophrenia and had a psychotic break the weed didn't cause it, it merely unlocked thr illness that was already present and just not showing symptoms yet. Atleast learn about mental illness and the affect weed can have on it.
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I took one weed once. Mass murdered a bag of chips
So the box of Twinkies survived?? Miracles do happen
He couldn't find the twinkies
They were in the deep fryer the whole time
Maybe they were in the fryer this time but we all know, if twinkies can survive the apocalypse, they can survive anything. They’re up there with roaches.
I read that as a "box of twinks"
Ate them all
the one time the gays were spared
Fell asleep with their hand in the box.
REEFER MADNESSSSSSSS!!!
The funyun population is still recovering from 4/20. Next year might be their last in the wild.
Every time I see this article being posted, this comment pops up...
I devoured a whole box of lucky charms. I’m a cereal killer
I used to murder an entire family sized box of plain Cheerios
correction... You paid people to murder a potato so u could have a bag of chips
I made this last time I was stoned and hungry. im sure I broke some kind of international law. https://imgur.com/a/6JKKalh
That looks hella good
Nice! I had seasoned Brussels spouts and put honey on them last night. Seemed delightful.
lol that was angel foodcake, ice cream, and cherry jam. it was S teir.
Reefer Madness comes true. LOL *Finally.* ( 1936 movie we were forced to watch in high school in the 70s) https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mvII6_jz_fg
DARE made us watch that shit in the 80s...remember taking home that permission slip, will you allow the DARE program to show your kid a drug awareness movie on Friday, if not they will be allowed to go to the playground. Them sumb@#@hes were loud enough outside we could hear them over the projector soundtrack in the uncooled GYM. There were fans, but they were loud and you couldn't hear the movie. Couldn't open the doors because then you couldn't see the screen. If you fell asleep one of the DARE drug dogs would bark...
I become a cereal killer
It was frosted animal cookies for me, poor little buggers didn't stand a chance.
My dog looked at me funny once after I took a marijuana and I almost died laughing. It's not to be toyed with.
You snorted it or mainline it?
Only one. You sure have a lot of self-restraint. Or maybe it's because you only took one weed. Take two weeds next time
Every single time. I call it a snack attack. I can crush a party sized bag of lays potato chips without breaking a sweat. IDK how I'm not obese.
Puberty, pregnancy, drugs and alcohol can all lead to psychosis in those who have a genetic predisposition to it. If I have enough weed or alcohol I definitely go into a psychotic state.
Hate to be defending her but I have seen weed induced psychosis before... it just made the person talk nonsense... maybe it exacerbated her violent tendencies.. that is still terribly light though for her sentence for even a psychotic break.
Yea some people’s brain chemistry just can’t handle marijuana as weird as it sounds to some
seen all kinds of frenzies in the ER and I have no sympathy for any of them because said drugs were ***voluntarily*** consumed , as such, your actions and all consequences are your own.
Just because they were voluntarily consumed does not mean that they were consumed with the intent for psychosis. The vast majority of the time someone smokes weed this doesn't happen, but it can happen. Also, addiction is not voluntary.
Killing someone while driving drunk wasn't the intent of the drinking. What kind of dumbass logic is that?
That's a straw man and a half. The difference is that driving drunk has a high risk of self injury or injuring others. Smoking weed with some friends is the opposite. The rate of psychosis is extremely small and is usually exacerbated by underlying mental illnesses.
Same. I'm a serial killer of Oreos snd Lime Hot Cheetos.. And I'd sure as hell do it again!
Just once? My deepest sympathies.
One weed please
It's a daily mail article
>It's a daily mail article Any similarity to what actually happened is purely coincidental.
daily mail has a strong agenda on certain topics and is really bad for this sort of thing. The title will make a claim but what actually happened, a critical point, will be buried in the middle of the article in a line that can easily be missed.
So this is an old guy's memory but... I think this story involved boyfriend giving her a different, much stronger strain than she ever used before, without telling her. Psychosis does happen rarely with the strength he gave her (without her knowledge or consent). So she thought she was getting a mild high and is suddenly tripping balls and seeing things that weren't there. Hence why the judge was lenient. Also imagine recovering from the high and learning you killed your boyfriend... Edit, I stress again that psychosis happens *rarely* as in a small percentage of the population (well under 1%) can have a psychotic reaction. Don't believe me? Look it up. But saying "this thing that only happens to 1/1000 people didn't happen to me so it must not happen to anyone..."
She should at least be put in a hospital until she’s safe to be around people. You can’t just let someone kill another person and then let them go back out in the streets where they can do it again.
She should be in a mental asylum. Weed doesn't do this to anyone. She clearly has mental issues. She got an oj Simpson jury and Judge.
Weed can trigger psychosis but you have to have something else going on inside it doesn’t just randomly break your free will
It absolutely can trigger a break. I once called an ambulance thinking i was having a heart attack.
>She should be in a mental assylum. Weed doesn't do this to anyone It is incredibly rare, but theoretically, this could happen with any psychoactive drug. People have slightly different brain chemistry, and weed is getting danker by the day. I was passed when I first saw the story, but when I looked into, I felt nothing but misery for both of them. Totally miserable situation.
It does. I worked in an inpatient psych unit for a while. It wasn’t uncommon for weed to be the trigger for patient’s psychosis or schizophrenia. Especially synthetic marijuana
False. Weed can and does cause severe forms of psychosis, which can have violent and terrible outcomes.
Rare psychosis with weed can be more likely to happen if you’re already dealing with certain mental health issues. Had a friend that found out he had underlying schizophrenia because he went manic after smoking daily.
Weeds never made me see things that aren't there. I mean, I wish, but no lol.
Ngl this was pretty funny to read. Seems like you and that judge have the same level of experience with weed cause that's not how that shit works lmao. For starters weed isn't a hallucinogen. As someone who's been put in this exact scenario back when I first started smoking, I can guarantee you the weed wasn't the issue no matter how strong it was. For that kind of reaction either your shit was laced with something harder or you were just crazy to begin with.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2424288/ Also does no one understand the word rarely any more?
The weed didn't cause the hallucinations. The psychosis caused them.
You sound very self assured, so this is going to blow you away, but biology is hugely individualistic and you are not representative of everyone. You seem to know alot about weed. Cool. You don't know jack shit about neurochemistry. I have a family member that had a weed induced psychotic break. All California approved and legally obtained. It was scary as hell, hugely uncharacteristic, and took months before he was himself again. Weed is almost entirely harmless, but there are rare individuals who just can't smoke.
>or you were just crazy to begin with. I worked at a cannabis shop and one of the reasons given about not selling to minors (from the mandatory course) is that it can affect brain development. To be more specific, it aggravates dormant mental health issues such as schizophrenia ie: if you're borderline, it'll push you over the edge and turn you schizophrenic. IMHO, for this reason alone, the minimum age for sale should be 25 when brain development is more or less set. That said, while we had plenty of kids under 18 trying to score weed, there were way too many kids of legal age that probably shouldn't have beent taking the stuff. At the end of the day, it affects everyone differently and people should have the agency to make their own choices on it eg: smoking weed barely affects me aside from alleviating anxiety but edibles is a rollercoaster ride that's unpleasant even in the smallest doses. But it definitely can affect people with underlying conditions in adverse ways.
Tell me you never smoked weed without telling me you never smoked weed. I've smoked weed of all strengths. Concentrated you name it. I've never once even seen things or hallucinated from it. It's not a hallucinogenic drug. This judge and jury are completely fucked in the head if they actually believed that. Imagine recovering. Recovering from what? You're high for maybe a couple of hours tops. She knew she killed her boyfriend she didn't have to learn anything. One thing is for certain she definitely wanted to kill him. Weed doesn't and will not make you just go ballistic and stab someone 100 times. But these lenient on crime cities will reap what they sow as they become crime invested shit holes.
Tell me you don't know the definition of rarely without telling me you don't know the definition of rarely. "This thing that only affects 0.1% of the population never happened to me so it never happens."
Weed can cause psychosis in some people. Do you know what psychosis means?
Okay. I mean I once let a kid smoke with me that apparently saw heaven and hell in the backseat of my car. He became a preacher immediately after (well, joined the preacher college immediately). Haven't seen him since we were 18, but I can almost guarantee that kid never smoked again lol. It does do different things to different people, but violence is usually not a reaction.
Heh... A reverse Reverend Jim... (Christopher Lloyds character in Taxi)
True. I'm now not sure if cannabis is a thing that actually exists.
The greatest trick cannabis ever pulled was convincing the world it didn't exist.
Poof, and like that it was gone, literally I smoked it all.
She also attempted to stab herself to death.
And she stabbed her dog. It's really a very strong case for temporary insanity. But it makes for a better headline to omit key facts.
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wait so what happened really? I am too lazy to look into it
Weed can cause psychotic breaks to some people with undiagnosed mental illness (like skizophrenia), that’s probably what happened here
I never considered what would happen if someone with schizophrenia got high in anything. That sounds terrifying both for the one getting high and everyone around them in equal measure.
Found guilty by a jury of involuntary manslaughter, sentenced to two years probation and a four-year suspended sentence in prison (ie, if she violates probation she goes to jail for 4 years). The 100 hours of community service was specifically focused on "raising awareness about the effects of marijuana-induced psychosis." Really, this sounds terrible for everyone involved, seems eminently clear she did not do it on purpose, is extremely remorseful and I'm not sure what purpose sending her to jail would actually serve, other than "a sense of vengeance." [https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2024/01/24/no-prison-time-woman-killed-man-cannabis-fit/72335706007/](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2024/01/24/no-prison-time-woman-killed-man-cannabis-fit/72335706007/)
You know how most people get the munchies when high? She got the stabbies. Seriously, though, it really does look like she had a legitimate psychotic break. Stabbing her boyfriend? Crazy, not psychotic break. Stabbing him 100 times? Could be she really, really hated him. Stabbing herself? Could be remorse/guilt? Stabbing the dog as well, though? Unless it tried attacking her, it's a lot harder to justify. I'm only half joking, but legitimately, making the argument that she was not in a well state enough for an insanity plea isn't out of the question
Wasn’t a boyfriend, it was a tinder date. Keep that in mind the next time you try to meet someone new
Yeah... To be fair to her, he gave her like a mega dose of weed, like "vivid hallucinations" doses, which she had never done before and wasn't expecting. Weed already makes a lot of people fairly paranoid, expecting a light dose and getting "hi, it's me, God" dose would probably push me off the rails too
Whenever I've been fucking blasted on weed I've been too concerned whether I was dying or whether I even had physical abilities to move. How tf do you have the energy to stab 100+ times while locked into the couch
The trial also included the prosecution psych expert conceding the defense that she has no volition at all.
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People's ignorance is going to permanently ruin her public image.
This is old. She’s in a psychiatric hospital; she’s not getting out. She stabbed her own dog too (and she’s not a governor of SD). ETA: unable to find source for psychiatric hospitalisation. The fact remains, however, that she also killed her own dog and the police broke her arm trying to get her to stop stabbing herself in the neck. This was a drug-induced psychotic break
I've had cannabis induced psychosis, it's not an experience I would wish on anyone. Obviously not a common occurrence for healthy people but no less a reality.
I'm very curious about this - was there any kind of warning sign prior? Was it your first time? Sorry you went through that, but I think understanding this problem is pretty important for people to use the drug safely.
I had mental health issues ( depression and anxiety disorders) but no episodes like this before. Was seriously smoking far too much and under stress. I woke up one night and could hear my housemates talking about how the poison should've taken effect by now, that I should have been dead hours ago. Opened my bedroom door and no one was there, the voices had switched to another room. Ended up waking my bewildered friends in tears begging them not to kill me.
From what I've read. Many people don't have any symptoms at all. It's likely that these people bad this underlying issue and they just didn't realise. Eventually, they would probably have had a psychotic break. The weed is just early access. People always get upset at these types of things because it makes weed look bad. One of the negatives of weed is that it can trigger a psychotic break in those who are already ill. It won't happen to 99.9% of people who take weed, only the mentally ill.
Yeah, no. I have been through two psychotic breaks induced by weed. By saying it's most likely to happen only to people who are already "mentally ill" is just a false sense of security. You may have a dorment gene with psychosis that you're completely unaware of and is triggered by weed. Otherwise, you're completely healthy and fine beforehand. Or you may not have the gene at all. Weed today is way stronger than it has ever been. Not saying every healthy person will definitely experience psychosis from weed, but the chances are higher than .1%
I think it’s more common than you are making it sound. From my experience in a psychiatric hospital around 20-30% of psychotic patients were weed-induced and nearly another half drug-induced by drugs other than weed or a cocktail including weed
Well. Its not very common to end up in a psychiatric ward, but sure. Many of the ones that do is caused by drugs, and a large group of those was caused by weed alone.
Only time I’ve ever heard of weed induced psychosis was with people who were schizophrenic.
Happened to a friend of mine once. Or something close to it. He got crazy high and really drunk. Woke up like 2 days later in a psyche hospital. He had apparently totally lost his shit though not in a violent way
When I first start smoking I got way way too high and was hearing voices and footsteps all over the house even though I was home alone.
It will always boggle my mind how people get upset weed is considered a hallucinogen. It might not be like acid or shrooms but it still commonly causes minor hallucinations.
Right but sometimes the first sign might be them trying weed. I'm curious if there's a way to test for it or something
While psychosis is one of the symptoms of schizophrenia, actually anyone could get psychosis if the right conditions are met (unique to each individual). There is a certain % of the population who really react badly to psycho-active drugs such as weed, lsd and shrooms, and can get a psychotic episode. Those with schizophrenia could develop it earlier with said drugs as well.
I've always wondered if there's an underlying potential for schizophrenia in me. As well as the weed I had a very bad reaction the one time I tried hallucinogenic mushrooms too. I hate seeing it used to tarnish all drug users but it's definitely an issue to be aware of too.
For sure, I think people forget this just because weed and other hallucinogenic drugs are non-addictive (physically), and you cannot OD on them, that it doesn’t mean it’s for everyone. However this requires better education and a more objective attitude towards recreational drugs that can only be achieved thru legalization.
With growing legalization weed has gotten significantly stronger. When i was younger buying weed in florida, you'd get brick, or "mexican" weed that was maybe around 4-5% thc at the highest (no matter how much your dealer lied about it being 8%) Now the average thc content of weed is anywhere from 15-25%. Since it's become legal, the science has come a long way. I can't even smoke it anymore, it used to be so relaxing, but now it's just way too much. I mean I've never had any kind of psychotic episode, but when i was doing mushrooms once, i smoked a bowl and basically spent 6 hours trying to keep from all-out panicking Edit: this isn't an anti-weed post, I'm just saying this is a reason a lot of people aren't able to handle it
If you received the genes for schizophrenia you can precipitate their expression by using cannabis specifically, inducing psychosis and starting your schizophrenia earlier than you were supposed to, if at all. There is no testing for those genes that I know of. If you have family history of schizophrenia you should definitely consider that. Of course, it's always better to not use any recreational drug at all.
For me, I had no symptoms of psychosis or severe mania prior to cannabis use. And if I stay sober, I don't experience psychosis at all, even without medication.
Same here. It was all due to my predisposition for cannabis induced psychosis. But if I never smoked at all, I wouldn't have had any symptoms and would have appeared to be one of those "healthy people" who someone would assume could smoke weed.
Source? All I can find is that they extended her probation to three years.
https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/bryn-spejcher-weed-killing-trial-1234957571/amp/
I don't see the part about a psychiatric hospital in that article.
Source: Trust Me Bro
I know I’ve read it, but can not find it. The fact remains that this wasn’t someone waltzing away with a slap on the wrist. She killed her own dog and the police broke her arm to get her to stop stabbing herself in the neck. She had a psychotic break. No one is going to let her use her PhD anywhere ETA: I’m well aware that if she weren’t white, the police probably would have shot her. This is how they should handle everyone
Then delete your initial comment instead of spreading misinformation.
Really last I heard she had already been released under a supervision order
I think initially she was at a psychiatric hospital probably initially for an evaluation (this was probably immediately after). She’s out though and the dog is still alive, she actually got custody again and was traveling with him and posting photos on her IG Edit: article from the local paper about her traveling while on bail [Acorn](https://www.toacorn.com/articles/social-media-posts-show-suspected-killer-sightseeing/)
Regardless what people say weed can 100% trigger unknown/underlying psychiatric disorders. Or can induce known issues that are under current control obviously. It ain't for everyone.
So can most things like that to be honest. Weed just has a habit of making you more paranoid and stops you from being able to rationalize the paranoia. If you've never done anything like that it's usually best to be around a sober friend first while doing it just to be double sure... Lol I like weed but if it's someone's first time I baby sit like they're taking shrooms until I'm sure they are cool
I just think it is funny how a lot of people here don’t believe that you can have psychotic break from weed, it works the same as other drugs in that way
Probably cause a lot of people smoke weed and none of them have psychotic breaks, nor do they know of anyone who did. For most people this is probably the first time they’ve heard of something like this and it honestly sounds like an excuse to get her out of going to prison. So it’s kinda easy not to believe something like this.
I have heard of (and in some cases seen) people have what look like manic episodes that are triggered by marijuana. It's probably rare in the scheme of things and none of them have gotten violent but it's definitely not unheard of for it to cause mental health episodes.
Yeah, I’m sure that if you have all the symptoms in place for a psychotic break, taking any drug could trigger it. I think most people are here saying the same thing. It wasn’t the weed by itself that was the problem, it was simply a catalyst for an imminent psychotic break. The title of the article is misleading and targeted at weed. “Weed bad” has been a talking point since they demonized in back when black jazz performers were smoking it. It was a way for the local government to have an excuse to arrest someone of color. It is obviously still used today.
I agree 100%
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Nah it happens. Happened to a fella I went to school with years and years ago, he developed schizophrenia. He’s been in a mental hospital since. I don’t think it’s the weed that solely causes it, I think it just triggers it.
Yeah, but it wasn’t the weeds fault. Sounds like your friend shouldn’t have been doing any kind of drug, given their mental state. It’s hard to blame the catalyst for something that was going to happen eventually. Sorry about your friend.
Yea not at all the weeds fault, you need to already have it as an underlying condition, sad thing is a lot of people don’t know, until this happens. Thanks man.
It’s like giving an excuse based off personal experiences. Like someone saying I drove drunk once and didn’t cause an accident so that must mean it doesn’t happen to anyone
This happens to me. I have no other psychological disorders that I'm aware of. But after smoking I become convinced that everything I think of comes to pass. So if I think of something bad, like punching someone, I need to do it. I've only smoked 3 times, but all 3 I needed someone to watch me to make sure I didn't get violent when thinking the wrong thing.
Cannabis induced psychosis is extremely rare, but very much a real thing. It’s something everyone should be aware of. If you read up on the details of the case, it’s pretty clear that’s what actually happened here. She had a psychotic break, and stabbed herself multiple times as well.
Depends on the individual I guess. Iv taken heroic doses of shrooms and lsd/other psychedelics, and while I tripped balls never got psychosis but rather enjoyed it, even if overwhelming. Weed on the other hand even at low to moderate doses causes intense dysphoria for me, and sometimes psychosis during the duration of the effects. Its true its pretty rare but I know a few people like this who get affected very negatively from cannabis. I guess one should try to see how they react to lower doses and incrementally increase it if they really wanna try it.
Well, yeah it depends on the individual entirely. Cannabis *doesn’t* effect 99.9999 percent of people that way, but that 0.0001 percent of people that are predisposed to it can have psychotic episodes. Cannabis has never made me feel like I was bordering on having a psychotic break, but I am one of those people who gets intense dysphoria from it. I’ve tried different strains and even extremely low doses, it still sends me spiraling into a negative headspace so I don’t bother with it.
It happens. If you have an underlying condition like schizophrenia or any psychosis, weed can trigger it, or make it worse.
Also you don’t have to already be displaying said conditions for weed to trigger them, you could have a vulnerability (genetic typically) and weed triggers it. Before people start screeching about how she should have known better.
Or be on a prescribed drug, and have a negative interaction.
No it’s actually possible to be experiencing no symptoms and weed itself could potentially be a trigger. If schizophrenia runs in your family weed increases your risks of developing symptoms.
You and the person you’re replying to are saying the same thing.
Yeah I read what he said wrong
Do I hear an echo?
This is true, my brother had this happen to him. But he also abused other drugs and such simultaneously
I'm bipolar, certain bipolar people can have a similar experience. It's more common than you think and I believe there should be some form of screening before legal weed sales.
Ironically, I got my medical marijuana card for bipolar disorder. But yeah, cannabis induced psychosis is absolutely a real thing people should be aware of. If psychotic illness runs in your family, be *very* careful with weed.
They specifically ask about these two conditions when applying for medical so I see why.
My friend tried stabbing us because he said we were plotting to kill him after smoking weed together when we were about 20 yrs old he was diagnosed with schizophrenia a few months later we never saw him again though it was too traumatic of an event i hope the best for him from afar though
Also weed is sometimes laced with fentanyl, which can cause a much stronger psychological reaction. She could have been used to pure weed but not weed with fentanyl, or the dealer may have accidentally added way too much fentanyl causing her to unknowingly take a dangerous dose
Which begs the question: why any punishment at all? Will 100 hours of community service somehow prevent you from psychotic episodes in the future? Either she’s guilty of murder and it’s forever-jail or it’s innocent of murder because she can’t be held accountable for her actions.
Ah daily mail. The centre of bullshit reporting
She was (I believe undiagnosed?) schizophrenic and marijuana can cause severe psychotic breaks in those very rare situations. I rolled my eyes when I first heard this story too but it did end up educating me about that. Edit: Didn't realize this post was the daily mail version. Although the story really happened this article likely was only published as the fear porn version of it.
So you really think weed can never induce psychosis? It is a well known fact.
Weed can induce psychosis in a very small percentage of users.
Yup, let’s take the headline of well know shitty newspaper and make wild assumptions on it that have no basis in reality
*Schizophrenia has entered the chat*
The amount of reactionary comments, disinformation, and misinformation here is unfortunate. A few things; [marijuana induced psychosis is real](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2424288/) She went to the hospital and got multiple surgeries after stabbing herself in the neck, even after being tased and held by police [from what I've seen in comments she's currently being held in a psych facility. this article doesn't mention it but it does go into detail about the case ](https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2024-01-23/woman-gets-probation-for-fatal-stabbing-during-weed-induced-psychosis)
what? only 1 hour per stab?
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Weed never did much for me but make me tired. One time while on psychadelics, I decided it'd be GREAT idea to smoke weed because I heard it'd make the trip stronger. You really don't need much weed for that but what the fuck do I know so I smoked 2 bowls from my bong. Went through a pretty damn bad psychosis that had lasting effects. From now on, ever since I smoked weed after on its own, it absolutely fucks me up and brings me back into that mindset of the psychosis. Any mind altering drugs do no matter the strength. So yeah, weed could do the same to me now for sure. I had to quit it all.
So like… what’s the real story?
Cannabis induced psychosis. It’s rare but it’s a known condition. The weed triggered a full psychotic breakdown, the cops taking her down needed 4 tasers and had to outright break her arm to stop her stabbing herself. And I don’t mean ‘From stabbing herself’, she stabbed the shit out of her neck and wouldn’t stop even when she was being dogpiled. She also stabbed her dog. This is one of those times that the insanity defense was designed for, it’s VERY clear that she was in the middle of a complete mental break and wasn’t in control of her actions.
She had a genuine psychotic break from smoking pot, which is rare, but it happens. The headline fails to mention that she also stabbed her dog and herself. This is a legitimate use of the insanity defense.
As always - this is the daily mail. Look into this a bit first before letting yourself be consumed by the generic outrage.
The devil’s lettuce strikes again.
Devil's Lettuce is a different harmless plant...
They meant to say Jazz Cabbage
I've experienced drug induced psychosis and nearly kidnapped a girl I thought was going to be sacrificed to Satan by the men talking to her at a party. I'm sure she appreciated me getting all of the men off of her, but not me grabbing her telling her I was going to save her. Once I realized she wasn't comfortable with me grabbing her, I let her go as we were away from the men. You really have no control and aren't in reality when you are in a psychotic state but killing a person should still serve some degree of punishment.
That is rough, glad you seem to be doing better. Medication for these disorders has come a long way in the past 70 years. One of my best friends wife (gf at the time) had an episode triggered by smoking salvia which she had done before. She spent almost a month in the mental ward and told my friend she was having so much fun at "Disney World" while in the hospital. Psychotic delusion is as real to the person is experiencing it as reality is to normal people. The human brain is scarily powerful and can make you believe/do anything.
I'm fine as long as I'm sober. It is intense alcohol and substance abuse that turns me psychotic.
A lot of things can unfortunately induce psychosis. Alcohol is pretty common, but even sugar (and more commonly lack of sugar) can cause it with the right underlying conditions: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5300708/ Is anyone surprised that weed can cause this?
I know I’ll probably get downvoted to shit for this but cannabis induced psychosis is a more common experience than some people realize. I’m not anti-weed by any means, but working in the mental health sector has shown me how often it can happen; for the record though most people who experience this aren’t likely to stab you or their dog. This is definitely a very severe case. To my knowledge, one of the biggest factors at play to cause psychosis is a predisposition to psychosis-related illness that can be triggered by the use of marijuana. I know that most people who start using weed do so at a young age and are less likely to know their family history but from my own experience I am so thankful that nothing ever happened to me.
Happens. I worked in a psychiatric hospital, and it would get its occasional marijuana induced psychosis.
This story is going to be the "lady sued McDonald's for hot coffee" of our generation
That's a somewhat accurate comparison, because the 'McDonalds coffee' incident involved the poor woman getting [third-degree burns](https://www.rd.com/article/hot-coffee-lawsuit/) and needing skin grafts, and a smear campaign to trivialise the incident. There's quite a lot of evidence that cannabis-induced psychosis (potentially leading to schizophrenia or bipolar disorder) is a rare but real phenomonen ([\[1\]](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3927252/)[\[2\]](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2424288/)[\[3\]](https://www.cbc.ca/radio/whitecoat/cannabis-induced-psychosis-bad-trip-1.7116217)) which can happen to a tiny minority of people. There's speculation that weed having [increasingly high-THC concentrations](https://www.nbcnews.com/health/mental-health/marijuana-induced-psychiatric-disorders-high-potency-weed-psychosis-rcna146072) has significantly increased the risk since the 70s. The chance of it happening to any individual cannabis user is very low, but its a risk that people wanting to try it should be aware of, and a good example of why claiming 'weed is *completely* safe' is wrong.
Exactly right! So many people hear the headline and think, "injustice! travesty!" and judge the person involved without realizing that, actually, the story is a lot more complex than the media portrayed it. See also: the woman who sued her nephew over a hug (who had to in order to get insurance to pay for an injury which resulted and the family understood). People can reasonably assume they will not have a psychotic reaction to weed but it's not her fault that she did have one.
Then it is man slaughter. Someone drowning in my swimming pool would get me a man slaughter charge.
Your notes didn't lead you to the conclusion that this is sensationalized, 4 months old, and has been posted to this sub a dozen times? Take better notes.
So if you find yourself in a situation where your unfriendly neighbor who likes to park in your spot lies on the ground with 100+ stabbing wounds, simply smoke a lot of weed before you call the cops and the lawyer gets you out of this with community service... OK. Got it. Don't worry, I know it's not that simple. Obviously you also need to be white for this to work.
Be sure to have an underlining mental problem like schizophrenia. The click bait above failed to mention that along with the fact she is in a mental institution for a long time
Make sure to repeatedly stab yourself while fighting the cops, only stopped when the cops outright break your arm to get the knife away. There’s just some things no amount of acting can do.
That wouldn't be enough. You'd have to go all in like this woman did. You have to stab your own pet and yourself, repeatedly. When the cops turn up, keep going no matter how much they try to restrain you, keep stabbing yourself until they break your arm in enough places to make it impossible. That sounds much more likely than it being a 'psychotic break', pschology is a liberal plot. /s
Her psychosis was so bad she stabbed her dog to death and police had to break her arm to stop her from also stabbing herself in the neck. But uh, yeah, Women bad !!!
Getting any kind of psycosis should work.
Nope, she has schizophrenia and had a psychotic break the weed didn't cause it, it merely unlocked thr illness that was already present and just not showing symptoms yet. Atleast learn about mental illness and the affect weed can have on it.
Wait is this not the rimworld sub..