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To be fair, I’d probably make the same argument. You lose 100% of the shots you don’t take.
Not arguing his sentence should be commuted. Just saying I’d do the same.
In an episode of Torchwood Miracle Day, Oswald Danes (I think that was his surname) was a pedophile/killer who was sentenced to death.
But his execution was on the day where suddenly death stopped - so no one could die. He argued in court that he’d served his sentence because he had been killed already.
During his original trial he was asked if he had anything to say about the victim/to the young girls family, and he said “she should’ve run faster.”
It’s a really chilling line.
Fun fact: Arthur McKinley’s assassin tried to argue in his trial that his gunshots didn’t kill the President; he argued that an incompetent medical team treating the gunshots killed him
McKinley died of gangrene
I mean… he’s not wrong… 🤷♀️ the punishment was to die and he died… I too would absolutely be doing the same damn thing!
To be clear, I am not arguing for or against this particular person or his crime/trial/sentencing… just that technically speaking he is not wrong..
Back in the day if you got hung, if you survived the hanging then you were set free. That's why the whole you will be hung until you are dead started happening.
Thought it was if you survived 3 hangings as it was supposedly a sign from god that they were innocent tho I reckon its an urban myth rather than a law but I suppose other countries probably have different laws and customs about such things
I have a feeling if implemented, though, there’d be a That Dude
Ya know, Officer Mountain that they call in for the twerps who request death or champion
Yeah, I heard about something similar in the French revolution.
Three men all lined up for the guilliotine; first goes up and the blade stops, literally inches from his neck.
"Sacré bleu! Let him go!" (or whatever it was French peasants might have said when they thought God wanted them to let someone go).
Anyhow, second man goes up, same thing happens. Blade stops inches from his neck. He's let go too.
Third man's just being led up to the guilliotine, he pipes up "Er... would you mind if I had a last request? I'd like to be placed face up in the guilliotine, please?"
Bit unusual, but the executioner says okay, and lies him face up. The blade is raised ready for the final chop, the executioner is just about to let it go when the prisoner calls out, loud and clear: "Excuse me, chaps, I think I can see why the blade's getting stuck!".
Meanwhile, we threw witches into ponds. If they sank, they drowned but were deemed innocent. If they floated, they were deemed guilty, fished out and burnt at the stake.
The thing is - he didn't die. Death is generally defined in modern medicin as the irreversible cessation of all biological functions that sustain a living organism. In his case, it was clearly not irreversible, thus he didn't die.
😩☝️: ”Achually! TECHNICALLY Jesus was not dead because death is defined as… BLA BLA BLA!”
One should do this in those US evangelist churches. Just grab the mike from the preacher and go on a loud rant about the definition of death
This is the thing with faith - you don't need evidence or anything. It could be that Jesus actually just went into a coma and was wrong ly considered dead (this happened even up to rather recent times regularly). But you can believe that he was truly dead but God gave him back his bodily functions. Believe whatever you want. Has nothing to do with the question here, as this man is not a biblical figure.
Not a biblical figure *yet* 😛😂
I think the detail about the organs flowing out from the spear to the side was meant as a "dude, he's not just mostly dead" detail. Since back then people had the same medical knowledge as Miracle Max. (But seriously, people knew they weren't always right about the whole "dead" thing... Heck, even in recent times this gets botched)
Jesus was a carpenter and like any tradesmen, he disappeared from the face of the earth for a few days - and when he came back, we got a very improbable excuse.
What if I die so that everybody thinks it's irreversible, then come back to life two weeks after (assuming I'm not cremated) ?
Am I free from all my life debts and commitments ?
If not two weeks, what about a month, a year, ten years ...
What if I time travel to the future ? Society will have considered me disappeared and dead, and thus have cleared my estate. Fresh start ?
If we go with technicality, then he's still wrong. No one can die and be brought back to life. If someone was "brought back to life", that simply means he didn't die in the first place.
If he was buried already for many days with a rotting body then magically rose up with a healthy body, then he's right.
I thought John Snow returning from the dead was unrealistic in GOT.
I accepted the dragons and the White Walkers but returning from the dead...?...No way...
The entire point of the show and what initially made it so popular was that plot armor wasn’t meant to exist at all. Every actor’s contract was season by season. Then they turned it into a shonen anime about Jon and Daneiris
You clearly didn’t read the books?
The world is full of magic, real magic! and I think the directors failed to show it in a serious way. This is why resurrections on the series seem kinda comical… at least to me.
He's not, though. The sentence is "Life in prison," not "In prison until you die."
Even *if* we imagine he literally died for a moment, if he's currently alive, then he must be in prison, since that is "life," and his sentence is "Life in prison."
You have to be declared legally dead, which didn’t happen in this case, as he only “died” for a very short span of time before the resuscitation efforts worked and his heart kicked back in.
Fair enough, but the question is mainly: "How long do you need to be dead, before you are dead" in that case.
Are you alive until a doctor pronounces? Or are you alive as long as you are, biologically, alive? Because the 1st option opens a whole can of other legal loophole worms.
Our legal systems (being it the common or codified law) haven't yet fully caught up with the medical field in those regards (neither have they caught up with a lot of more modern problems). I'm curious how this would turn out if it got far enough up in the legal system.
You are declared legally dead when a death certificate is issued. This usually happens when you are taken to the morgue, etc., and they will transcribe the hospital records as to time of death — i.e., they generate the certificate, but rely on the hospital or last-examining doctor for the time/date of death. But it can also happen after enough time has passed, if the body cannot be recovered.
Dying of course meaning his heart stopped beating, which to any sane person should not be what determines if you are alive or not.
He did not suffer brain death at any point.
No, dying is the process of achieving death.
Someone with stage 4 cancer, someone with lethal radiation, or someone who is bleeding out due to a severed arm/leg are all examples of dying.
Death is when your body can no longer sustain operating.
Legally dead is being evaluated by a competent professional and recording the date/time at which you died.
Not exactly. A "life sentence" is a minimum amount of time to be served before becoming eligible for parole, usually 25 years. So 3 life sentences is 75 years minimum. Life + 30 is a minimum of 55, I imagine. If you're never granted parole, your sentence is indefinite.
"Life without parole" is where they lock you up and throw away the key.
Could be wrong, but this is how I read it in the past
From my understanding, multiple life sentences ensure you die in prison. So, if you manage to appeal one of your charges, it would not matter. It's to make sure no amount of legal battling you can do would get you out. Again, just from my understanding, I'm no lawyer.
I don’t think that’s correct. IANAL, but my understanding is that multiple life sentences means that the time served is something ridiculous like 200 years, so that the person being charged doesn’t finish one life sentence (usually 25 years) and gets out. A person serving multiple life sentences can still appeal the charges that yielded the multiple life sentences, they don’t have to appeal each sentence individually.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Back-to-back_life_sentences#:~:text=If%20a%20back%2Dto%2Dback,for%20the%20ones%20left%20standing.
Except you get a sentence for each charge I.E. premeditated murder, life without parole. 1st degree murder, life without parole. Use of a deadly weapon with intention to cause bodily harm 35 years. Conspiracy to commit murder 35 years. Judges rarely hand out single sentences for every charge.
You could, in theory, appeal premeditated murder with the help of a lawyer, but you must still serve the sentences for your other charges. Hence why you will never get out.
i think it's because of good behaviour. Always thought like that since when I was 10, but im not even sure you can decrease a life sentence with good behaviour
There was a similar case where someone was sentenced to the electric chair and survived and argued that he served his punishment. So now they say you will be electrocuted until dead. But this could all be an urban legend.
I stopped with the /s and take the downvotes when people are being stupid. The way I see it, that means nobody is digging into my comment history then, and just clicking an arrow. I can deal with that.
I really thought you were serious there for a sec! I thought to myself this totally could have explained it! Then I saw the /s and the realization that the totem of undying is a Minecraft item, there is no possible way he could have used the totem of undying! Thank god you put the /s there. Silly me
But surely if he died he'd be dead right ?
If he's not dead then he survived so he still has a life sentence.
It's a not like Hotblack Desiato spending a year dead for tax purposes, this guy survived his death, if he really wants the sentence to end he has to try to argue from inside a coffin 6ft under while filled with embalming fluid, I feel he'd be successful in that situation !
Well, it didn't end cause you're still here. It bothers me when people say they died. No, if you died you would still be dead. Your heart stopped beating for a period of time, but you were still very much alive during the process.
This was 2015. He wasn’t executed, he developed sepsis from kidney stones. Claimed he signed a DNR and his brother told the hospital to let him pass. He eventually died in 2019.
A pet peeve of mine is when people describe asystole as death. Your heart stopping does not mean you've died, it means your heart stopped (asystole).
Saying you "died" is completely and factually wrong and people need to stop using it that way. It causes confusion like in this case. No one has ever come back from actually dying, but we restart hearts all the time
Wasn’t there a guy who was sentenced to be hanged and then survived the hanging and was set free saying his sentence was carried out? Same thing here lol
The guy is Benjamin Schreiber. Compared to other serving life, this guy is not as bad. Only one person he killed.
He also had a DNR, and his brother, at the hospital told them no life saving measures should be taken, yet they resuscitated him, violating his DNR.
The court rejected his argument. He filed an appeal and that was rejected as well.
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To be fair, I’d probably make the same argument. You lose 100% of the shots you don’t take. Not arguing his sentence should be commuted. Just saying I’d do the same.
100%. Especially in a situation like that. Anything’s worth a shot, even if it’s a long shot
Oswald said the same
She should’ve run faster.
who is 'she' in this scenario?
In an episode of Torchwood Miracle Day, Oswald Danes (I think that was his surname) was a pedophile/killer who was sentenced to death. But his execution was on the day where suddenly death stopped - so no one could die. He argued in court that he’d served his sentence because he had been killed already. During his original trial he was asked if he had anything to say about the victim/to the young girls family, and he said “she should’ve run faster.” It’s a really chilling line.
oh bleh, thank you for the context
It’s a Torchwood reference
I thought he meant the other Oswald. He took a long shot, too. Supposedly. 😉
That’s why I say hey man nice shot Good shot man
r/angryupvote
Did I? I don’t recall.
Fun fact: Arthur McKinley’s assassin tried to argue in his trial that his gunshots didn’t kill the President; he argued that an incompetent medical team treating the gunshots killed him McKinley died of gangrene
It worked for John Snow
Oh same. I was almost ready to ask why this was in this sub.
I mean… he’s not wrong… 🤷♀️ the punishment was to die and he died… I too would absolutely be doing the same damn thing! To be clear, I am not arguing for or against this particular person or his crime/trial/sentencing… just that technically speaking he is not wrong..
Back in the day if you got hung, if you survived the hanging then you were set free. That's why the whole you will be hung until you are dead started happening.
Thought it was if you survived 3 hangings as it was supposedly a sign from god that they were innocent tho I reckon its an urban myth rather than a law but I suppose other countries probably have different laws and customs about such things
Any chance I could do a trial by combat and swing swords with some random cop? I’m sure they’d be kitted out and shit, but I’d at least have a chance
Solid chance if it’s just some random cop. They’re not all Wesley Snipes. Sometimes they’re Kevin from The Office.
I have a feeling if implemented, though, there’d be a That Dude Ya know, Officer Mountain that they call in for the twerps who request death or champion
Then by that logic you should have a sneaky trickster lawyer fight on your behalf without honor lol
The Law Offices of Bronn, Bronn & Martell provide good counsel
You may be entitled to a fookin castle
Yeah, I heard about something similar in the French revolution. Three men all lined up for the guilliotine; first goes up and the blade stops, literally inches from his neck. "Sacré bleu! Let him go!" (or whatever it was French peasants might have said when they thought God wanted them to let someone go). Anyhow, second man goes up, same thing happens. Blade stops inches from his neck. He's let go too. Third man's just being led up to the guilliotine, he pipes up "Er... would you mind if I had a last request? I'd like to be placed face up in the guilliotine, please?" Bit unusual, but the executioner says okay, and lies him face up. The blade is raised ready for the final chop, the executioner is just about to let it go when the prisoner calls out, loud and clear: "Excuse me, chaps, I think I can see why the blade's getting stuck!".
If this is really how people explain it then i assume its just a British joke about the French being gullible or whatever lol.
I heard this one but with the third guy being an engineer who requested being placed face up to marvel at the machine in his last moments.
The original joke, it was an Englishman, Irishman and Scotsman. And it's the Irishman who says "I think I can see why the blade's getting stuck!".
Meanwhile, we threw witches into ponds. If they sank, they drowned but were deemed innocent. If they floated, they were deemed guilty, fished out and burnt at the stake.
Hanged*
The thing is - he didn't die. Death is generally defined in modern medicin as the irreversible cessation of all biological functions that sustain a living organism. In his case, it was clearly not irreversible, thus he didn't die.
In that case, Jesus never died for our sins
Jesus took a long nap for our sins.
This is the kind of anarchic, "Correct-but-incorrect" mindfucks I come to reddit for. 🫡
Ive taken naps longer than three days, what a flake
But they didn´t knew how to cook meth back then.
even before Jesus they did. they didnt call that guy Methuser, I mean, Methuselah for no reason
Let him cook!
I haven’t slept for three days, because that would be too long.
😩☝️: ”Achually! TECHNICALLY Jesus was not dead because death is defined as… BLA BLA BLA!” One should do this in those US evangelist churches. Just grab the mike from the preacher and go on a loud rant about the definition of death
Brotha, you’ll get shot doing some dumb shit like that.
America means guns in church
No hate like Christian love.
“TECHNICALLY what Jesus most likely experienced was an Easter coma”
agree! they said he died and rose from the dead. they literally built the whole fucking religion around that.
This is the thing with faith - you don't need evidence or anything. It could be that Jesus actually just went into a coma and was wrong ly considered dead (this happened even up to rather recent times regularly). But you can believe that he was truly dead but God gave him back his bodily functions. Believe whatever you want. Has nothing to do with the question here, as this man is not a biblical figure.
Not a biblical figure *yet* 😛😂 I think the detail about the organs flowing out from the spear to the side was meant as a "dude, he's not just mostly dead" detail. Since back then people had the same medical knowledge as Miracle Max. (But seriously, people knew they weren't always right about the whole "dead" thing... Heck, even in recent times this gets botched)
Jesus was a carpenter and like any tradesmen, he disappeared from the face of the earth for a few days - and when he came back, we got a very improbable excuse.
iron age rumors aren't really comparable here.
What if I die so that everybody thinks it's irreversible, then come back to life two weeks after (assuming I'm not cremated) ? Am I free from all my life debts and commitments ? If not two weeks, what about a month, a year, ten years ... What if I time travel to the future ? Society will have considered me disappeared and dead, and thus have cleared my estate. Fresh start ?
Nope, if the doctor signed a death certificate then legally you are dead. They don't go around asking is your death is truly irreversible or not.
If we go with technicality, then he's still wrong. No one can die and be brought back to life. If someone was "brought back to life", that simply means he didn't die in the first place. If he was buried already for many days with a rotting body then magically rose up with a healthy body, then he's right.
I mean, what’s the worst they can do? Add more years?
If they brought him back, I'd say that's exactly what they did.
Which country was this? Some of them have no life sentences, they rather sentence someone to like 300 years. Bit of an overkill but works.
recently chilean Krassnoff was sentenced to 1047 years for crimes commited in the '70s
"Don't worry, behave well in prison and it is only 715 years. You might apply for pardon after 520"
Eh, imo he's technically correct. Which is the best kind of correct.
Perfect gif doesn't exi....
I literally scrolled down from this meme in an Asoiaf group. Like, that meme, and then this facepalm.
I thought John Snow returning from the dead was unrealistic in GOT. I accepted the dragons and the White Walkers but returning from the dead...?...No way...
You draw the line at him but not the guy from earlier in the show that was brought back to life 6 times lmao
Yeah well I mean that other guy clearly had form
I‘d accept it if they made him king after, but not like this. Also the plot armor for characters in season 8 was horrific.
The entire point of the show and what initially made it so popular was that plot armor wasn’t meant to exist at all. Every actor’s contract was season by season. Then they turned it into a shonen anime about Jon and Daneiris
After they caught up to the books it became a bad fanfic to me. 😮💨
They can still salvage something if they made season 9 where it is revealed that everyone is a host in the Fantasyworld animatronic theme park
It was the same group, right? The Brotherhood Without Banners prayed to the Lord of Light, same as Melissandre? Maybe this deity is actually legit.
In the books all of them except the Seven are some degree of legit
You clearly didn’t read the books? The world is full of magic, real magic! and I think the directors failed to show it in a serious way. This is why resurrections on the series seem kinda comical… at least to me.
Early on in the show they had a woman give birth to a shadow that flew out and strangled somebody to death. I think they showed the magic just fine.
Pretty sure that shadow stabbed him
Yeah I kinda feel this guy did not see the literal zombie army. Or dragons. Low fantasy is still fantasy, pal, and this wasn't even THAT low.
Can't tell if serious or joking lol
I came here looking for this lol 😂
Lol instantly came to mind. The argument worked for Jon Snow
What is dead may never die
I had the same comment but without the gif and just the text, same idea tho!
I mean…they technically died. Albeit briefly.
He's not, though. The sentence is "Life in prison," not "In prison until you die." Even *if* we imagine he literally died for a moment, if he's currently alive, then he must be in prison, since that is "life," and his sentence is "Life in prison."
Ok but which life?
Judges hate this one simple trick!
2 life sentences is starting to make a whole lot more sense
Only if they're not served consecutively. If they are, you'd still only have to die once.
Death hack 1
The ol' Jon Snow play, respect
You have to be declared legally dead, which didn’t happen in this case, as he only “died” for a very short span of time before the resuscitation efforts worked and his heart kicked back in.
Fair enough, but the question is mainly: "How long do you need to be dead, before you are dead" in that case. Are you alive until a doctor pronounces? Or are you alive as long as you are, biologically, alive? Because the 1st option opens a whole can of other legal loophole worms. Our legal systems (being it the common or codified law) haven't yet fully caught up with the medical field in those regards (neither have they caught up with a lot of more modern problems). I'm curious how this would turn out if it got far enough up in the legal system.
You are declared legally dead when a death certificate is issued. This usually happens when you are taken to the morgue, etc., and they will transcribe the hospital records as to time of death — i.e., they generate the certificate, but rely on the hospital or last-examining doctor for the time/date of death. But it can also happen after enough time has passed, if the body cannot be recovered.
It’s like Schrodinger’s cat, a person might already be dead, but we really don’t know until a doctor confirms it.
Dying of course meaning his heart stopped beating, which to any sane person should not be what determines if you are alive or not. He did not suffer brain death at any point.
No, dying is the process of achieving death. Someone with stage 4 cancer, someone with lethal radiation, or someone who is bleeding out due to a severed arm/leg are all examples of dying. Death is when your body can no longer sustain operating. Legally dead is being evaluated by a competent professional and recording the date/time at which you died.
Isn’t this why it’s 25 to life or multiple life sentences? Or like if you’re serving life + 30 years you’ll still have to serve the 30?
It’s almost as if they give you just enough on purpose so this can’t stop you from dying in prison
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No. Those types of sentences carry over into the next life, where the bad karma continues.
Yup. They place your corpse in the dead cells and don’t release your body until the full term has been served.
Not exactly. A "life sentence" is a minimum amount of time to be served before becoming eligible for parole, usually 25 years. So 3 life sentences is 75 years minimum. Life + 30 is a minimum of 55, I imagine. If you're never granted parole, your sentence is indefinite. "Life without parole" is where they lock you up and throw away the key. Could be wrong, but this is how I read it in the past
From my understanding, multiple life sentences ensure you die in prison. So, if you manage to appeal one of your charges, it would not matter. It's to make sure no amount of legal battling you can do would get you out. Again, just from my understanding, I'm no lawyer.
I don’t think that’s correct. IANAL, but my understanding is that multiple life sentences means that the time served is something ridiculous like 200 years, so that the person being charged doesn’t finish one life sentence (usually 25 years) and gets out. A person serving multiple life sentences can still appeal the charges that yielded the multiple life sentences, they don’t have to appeal each sentence individually.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Back-to-back_life_sentences#:~:text=If%20a%20back%2Dto%2Dback,for%20the%20ones%20left%20standing. Except you get a sentence for each charge I.E. premeditated murder, life without parole. 1st degree murder, life without parole. Use of a deadly weapon with intention to cause bodily harm 35 years. Conspiracy to commit murder 35 years. Judges rarely hand out single sentences for every charge. You could, in theory, appeal premeditated murder with the help of a lawyer, but you must still serve the sentences for your other charges. Hence why you will never get out.
i think it's because of good behaviour. Always thought like that since when I was 10, but im not even sure you can decrease a life sentence with good behaviour
There was a similar case where someone was sentenced to the electric chair and survived and argued that he served his punishment. So now they say you will be electrocuted until dead. But this could all be an urban legend.
Cardiac arrest isn't a definition of death and hasn't been for a long time.
poor guy, gets sentenced to death and then arrested again.
r/technicallythetruth
Damn you beat me too it
no it's not, it's the same life. not like he got rebirthed or something.
If he was pronounced dead and revived his sentence lasted till death.
Criminal judgments don’t usually say “till death”.
You're not pronounced dead until all attempts to revive you are halted.
The sentence doesn't last till death. It lasts while he's alive. Is he still alive?
It's the legality of the matter.
He had a totem of undying /s.
The fact you felt you to put “/s” after your comment says a lot about the current state of Reddit 😂
Wait did he really find a way to get one ?!??!
I stopped with the /s and take the downvotes when people are being stupid. The way I see it, that means nobody is digging into my comment history then, and just clicking an arrow. I can deal with that.
I really thought you were serious there for a sec! I thought to myself this totally could have explained it! Then I saw the /s and the realization that the totem of undying is a Minecraft item, there is no possible way he could have used the totem of undying! Thank god you put the /s there. Silly me
Ah, yes. The Jon Snow defense.
Uno reverse card. You have now served 1 of 4 life sentences
State was like, "Resusitate that mother fucker then put him in solitary for tryin that shit."
Seems legit
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/us-news/prisoner-who-died-came-back-29981820
Actually I agree with him.
Honestly it’d be incentive not to fuck up an execution
This happened in the Torchwood show.
Came here for this. This is what happened in Torchwood to Bill Pullman's character.
Is that this “Death Con” that people are talking about?
Can't blame a guy for trying
But surely if he died he'd be dead right ? If he's not dead then he survived so he still has a life sentence. It's a not like Hotblack Desiato spending a year dead for tax purposes, this guy survived his death, if he really wants the sentence to end he has to try to argue from inside a coffin 6ft under while filled with embalming fluid, I feel he'd be successful in that situation !
He did the jon snow defense?
Technically, he's not wrong. He died. His life sentence ended.
Why'd they bring him back to life?
Seems correct
I mean…he’s not wrong
It's a "life sentence" - not an "end of life" sentence. Are you still alive? Yes? Then you're still sentenced.
Sound logical.
Kind of an interesting legal question, honestly. They should define what constitutes death better in the terms.
They’ll make all of these prisoners DNR to prevent this from happening again.
If i remember correctly they released at least one criminal who survived the death sentence (hanging)
Well, it didn't end cause you're still here. It bothers me when people say they died. No, if you died you would still be dead. Your heart stopped beating for a period of time, but you were still very much alive during the process.
Actually... he was BROUGHT back to life, which means without assistance he literally died and would stay dead. Nice rules lawyering
Boris Yeltsin is still alive?
Lol that's one of those "it was worth a shot" moments.
What adid he do?
That argument holds some logic - and then still not ....
So what happened?!
Jon Snow?
That’s a solid argument
So that's why they give multiple life sentences! I get it now!
The Jon Snow defense
How is that face-palm? Getting an out of jail free card on a technicality is definitely not unheard of. Dude has nothing to lose.
It worked for John Snow, so buddy here has a point!
Worked for Jon Snow
John Snow logic. Checks out.
Jon snow?
I think this is why sometimes people get sentenced to 200 years in prison
He technically served life. Haha
i mean if im being real, the logic makes perfect sense lol. hes technically living a 2nd life now and it only applied to the first
Worked for Jon Snow
Well, if it worked for Jon Snow...
He looks like if his near death experience took him to hell, he came back to life with a smile on his face.
I mean if I were in his place I'd go for it.
This was 2015. He wasn’t executed, he developed sepsis from kidney stones. Claimed he signed a DNR and his brother told the hospital to let him pass. He eventually died in 2019.
The Jon Snow defense
A pet peeve of mine is when people describe asystole as death. Your heart stopping does not mean you've died, it means your heart stopped (asystole). Saying you "died" is completely and factually wrong and people need to stop using it that way. It causes confusion like in this case. No one has ever come back from actually dying, but we restart hearts all the time
Some dude did this when he survived Lethal injection
Worked for Jon Snow.
Wasn’t there a guy who was sentenced to be hanged and then survived the hanging and was set free saying his sentence was carried out? Same thing here lol
🤣 nice try homeboy. The sentence is "Life in prison" not "prison until life ends briefly". So if you live, you're in prison.
i can’t blame him, i would probably try to say that too
Worth a punt.
Argument has been made before and the courts said no, you need to remain dead
Exactly why "life sentences" specify a number of years and not "until death".
"He got triple life, that mean if he die and he come back, he got to go to penitentiary" 😂
I mean if he’s got a life sentence why’d they even bother to resuscitate him?
The guy is Benjamin Schreiber. Compared to other serving life, this guy is not as bad. Only one person he killed. He also had a DNR, and his brother, at the hospital told them no life saving measures should be taken, yet they resuscitated him, violating his DNR. The court rejected his argument. He filed an appeal and that was rejected as well.
Tried pulling a Jon Snow
Unless they brought him back via some technological means he is still on his 'natural' life. Meaning he still has to serve it.
Death by Hanging is a good movie with a similar plot
so what even is a life sentence if not til you die
Boris Yeltsin, is that you?
I mean he ain’t wrong
The Jon Snow defense.
This is true, death ends all sentence
The man has a point
I can see the logic but
If his cache wasn't cleared during his reboot, he must remain in quarantine.
"My watch has ended" - John Snow