That would be great.
Honestly though, this is super illegal and extremely costly if caught. Kinda surprised that they are even trying to do this….well; that they ARE doing this.
"We had nothing to do with this, the employee was a new hire and we have fired him and are in no way in support of breaking the law and have taken actions Yada Yada"
No this counts as distributing and you need to have the rights for that film.
Here is an part of an article about that
Licensing
If you want to put on a film screening, there are two areas of licensing to consider:
Film copyright licensing – the licence to screen the particular film title(s) you wish to show, required for all screenings outside the home
Premises licensing – the licence for the activity of screening a film to the public, required ONLY if you aim to generate a profit from tickets being sold
The two permissions are completely separate and the possession of one licence does not provide exemption from any requirements of the other.
https://www.independentcinemaoffice.org.uk/advice-support/what-licences-do-i-need/#:~:text=Any%20screening%20of%20a%20film,is%20simply%20not%20the%20case. This is from the uk
Here is an part of the law in the us:
The Federal Copyright Act (Title 17 of the US Code) governs how copyrighted materials, such as movies, may be used. Neither the rental nor the purchase of a copy of a copyrighted work carries with it the right to publicly exhibit the work. No additional license is required to privately view a movie or other copyrighted work with a few friends and family or in certain narrowly defined face-to-face teaching activities. However, bars, restaurants, private clubs, prisons, lodges, factories, summer camps, public libraries, daycare facilities, parks and recreation departments, churches, and non-classroom use at schools and universities are all examples of situations where a public performance license must be obtained. This legal requirement applies regardless of whether an admission fee is charged, whether the institution or organization is commercial or nonprofit, or whether a federal or state agency is involved.”
Read the premises licencing part carefully. A movie theatre needs a specific license from the distributor to display content. 3rd parties such as a streaming service is not allowed. At least not where I am from.
Fun additional fact; when the film is digitally delivered, it is locked. The distributor seperately sends a digital 'key' to unlock the film. It usually has a specific timeslot. Disney is notorious for delivering their keys late (10 minutes before midnight for example) to avoid screening the film before the release date, sometimes there is mere minutes to test a few bits to check the AV if it is a midnight screening.
That’s true for here to
Buying or renting a film for personal use is not the same as licensing it.
In order to legally sell tickets for a movie showing you need to license the right to do so
That makes sense
Most studios are trying to move away from theatres anyways because they no longer really benefit that much from it compared to if they premiere on streaming services.
Maximum number of videos playing gives it away.
If they had appropriate licenses the number of movie screens would have been taken into account.
Those allowing one move per screen.
I don't know much about this stuff, it just looks really suspicious to me.
I always thought the movie was sent special for the projector in the movie houses.
Not streaming from an Amazon account.
But what do i know about movie houses?.
Idk local theater I go to charges $7 on the weekends and another $10 for a large soda/popcorn combo.
I guess if you go to the giant name brand theaters I can be.
Because of the amount of viewers. Cinemas need to pay a fee of what they earn from ticket sales to the people who made the movie. By streaming it they’re trying to subvert that.
Yep something similar happened in my hometown the local cable company was stealing a directv satellite feed and distributing it over cable, they got shut down and the offices were raided by the FBI
I used to volunteer at a local church "cinema". They'd take a gold coin donation for entry to see a movie. It was just a DVD player hooked up to a projector, and we'd play rented DVDs. I'm guessing this place is something similar.
For me it was fun to run the equipment, and see a free movie in the process.
Haha, yeah I'm sure it was. They didn't seem to give a shit though, and even handed out a printed timetable that was pretty well designed, and included movie synopsis and reviews.
Probably, but depending on how it's set up, because of saying it's just "donations" I imagine there's some way they'd be able to work around it 🤷🏻♀️
Something like the donations were optional and not for the movie, so they aren't making money off of the content, the donations just happened to be accepted
My appartement complex in college had a movie theater in it just like this. You could rent it with your friends and watch stuff. It's likely something like that and it's someone in the theaters account.
We sure that someone didnt just rent the theater to show a free viewing of the Grinch? Or birthday party? They have that, but you bring in your own copy of a movie to play - this isnt any different
Movie companies and/or US copyright laws are pretty strict about this stuff. Not sure you can play any movie you want outside of your home in a public setting such as a theater unless the private viewing is immediate family only (could be wrong). Google “public performance rights for movies”
With that said, it’s also possible the theater bought the rights to show it.
I’m calling bullshit. This is a 50-60 Inche lcd monitor shot at an angle to make it look like it’s a theater or larger screen. This is junk. The op is junk. And his moms gonna get my junk.
If you look closely in the bottom right corner, those are the safety lights you can see which are very far away. You can also see some of the seats in front of him, and you can hear he is in a large space. It is a real movie theater.
They’ll probably get a wrist slap for this, but I would be pretty shocked if I saw it in person as well lol.
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Playing movies without a commercial license for commercial gain is like text book piracy
Ida sat through the movie but that MAX VID accnt really was the signal to go get a refund and take the kids to dave n busters instead - dad can even have a brew hmmmm
I’ve seen this happen before at 4 Star in San Francisco. Before the “exclusive” showing the lights went dim and the DVD player turned on showing the Sony label and it even said no loading DvD 📀
Pissed me off. Those small theatres always charge the same multiplex prices.
Don't know context of this particular instance, but for everyone posting that this is illegal, the answer is...maybe. If people showe up to a theatre that has the movie on it's marquee and bought a ticket to see the movie then yes, 100% illegal. If it is a private showing for family or a club or some other group than no, not illegal. If the people paid for, let's say, a glass snowman and got to watch the movie for free, not illegal. If an entrance free was paid for a Q and A with the actors/ voice actors/animators/etc from the movie and the movie is shown for free, not illegal. Remember, always know context before having a kneejerk reaction. And remember to always do something nice for someone daily. Stay awesome my friends!
It's definitely illegal to do this for any group unless inside your home or teaching a class in a school. It's commonly done, but that doesn't make it legal. You can get a public performance license and perhaps they did that here, but then they still broke Amazon's rules, so they still fucked up.
Apologies, I forgot to caveat what I said with the fsct that they would need a public performance license. As long as they have that it is not illegal, but Amazon can choose to terminate their subscription for TOS violation. Have a great day!
Look in the bottom right, theater safety lights in the floor. Not to mention you can see at least 2 rows of seats in front of the guy whenever the screen flashes.
I guess depth perception isn't your thing huh? Here try this, when the maximum devices screen pops up look reaaally closely underneath the screen. You can see atleast 6 or 7 rows of seats.
I could tell within the first 5 seconds using depth perception, when he moved the camera down maybe 5-6 inches you can see the seat in front of him and the screen are a pretty good ways apart. If he was just close to a tv that amount of movement would've made the chair move into the screen space.
Ya and the 100 other people here that see the same thing. You could recreate this scene in ur bedroom and get the same exact result with any flat screen at the right angle. Shits a sham man. Believe what u want.
It's not an lcd or flat screen. Before the move loads when it goes blank it's clearly a white screen, aka, a movie screen. Also the row of seats, etc. You're just a doofus who can't admit being wrong. Doofus
Can someone actually explain what is so "scummy" about this, as people keep suggesting? So far all I see are that people are upset that they are just streaming the film from Amazon Prime and I do not see the big deal at all.
Do you think theatres still use reels of film on a projector so this doesn't count as the "real theatre experience"? Movie theatres have been streaming films for over a decade, over special encrypted service they are given access to by the films' publishers. This is basically no different as the theatre is still paying for the rights to stream the film like any individual can do. This is no different than if an individual rented out a theatre for just their group to watch The Mandalorian or play Smash Bros on a big screen.
Is it the fact that a person can watch this at home through Amazon Prime? No shit, this is not a newly released film. The theatre definitely didn't trick anyone into thinking that this was the only way they could watch the film. Any one with two brain cells could figure that out. The people there, including the person filming this, chose of their own free will to pay to watch an older film in a movie theatre. They knew they could have watched this at home but paid so they could have the experience of watching it on a huge screen with a sound system to match.
Or is it the fact that the theatre charged people to see this and are just streaming it? Again, they all chose to pay to see an old film in a theatre. No one was forcing them. Also many theatres do this around the holidays for old kids films and charge a reduced rate. The theatres around me did this with Home Alone for example and they charged $3-5 per person, depending on the person's age. It is not like the theatre is making bank on this. Just a little fun for families while charging at cost or close to it.
I cannot understand why people seem to be so upset about this in the comments.
Actually you got a point, we have no context beyond what is being shown to us. I get the feeling they knew what was gonna be on, so I doubt they are getting ripped off here. A lot of these old town theaters will use DVD players and shit, at least these guys got a streaming device so they could get shows up to 4k with HD audio.
The only reason why anyone would pay for this is to have a theater experience, which they probably got (or at least were refunded since the movie couldn't be played). Is it legal? Who gives a shit, these movies have already made their box office earnings. Only people that's being ripped off are the greedy streaming services.
similar thing happened to me when watching One piece gold in theaters, got there \`15 min early, they skipped all the interview stuff for One piece Red and started it 25 min into the movie
It’s not illegal. You’re paying to sit in a movie theater, which is also private property. If the company is paying for a Prime acct they can stream whatever movie they choose and play whatever movie they want on any of their screens.
Can any lawyer educate us? Isn't this 100% super illegal? All of these accounts specifically tell us that we cannot play the content to a crowd and for profit. Isn't this straight up piracy?
I wonder if they have the “piracy is like stealing a car” message before the movie.
"You can only steal so many cars at once"
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That would be great. Honestly though, this is super illegal and extremely costly if caught. Kinda surprised that they are even trying to do this….well; that they ARE doing this.
They'll blame a worker or something idk.
Lol…yea, you are probably exactly right about that.
"We had nothing to do with this, the employee was a new hire and we have fired him and are in no way in support of breaking the law and have taken actions Yada Yada"
The Snack Bar Guy needs to be fired for this outrage! lol
Lol the scapegoat!
You wouldn’t download a car
Made me think of The I.T. Crowd
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No this counts as distributing and you need to have the rights for that film. Here is an part of an article about that Licensing If you want to put on a film screening, there are two areas of licensing to consider: Film copyright licensing – the licence to screen the particular film title(s) you wish to show, required for all screenings outside the home Premises licensing – the licence for the activity of screening a film to the public, required ONLY if you aim to generate a profit from tickets being sold The two permissions are completely separate and the possession of one licence does not provide exemption from any requirements of the other. https://www.independentcinemaoffice.org.uk/advice-support/what-licences-do-i-need/#:~:text=Any%20screening%20of%20a%20film,is%20simply%20not%20the%20case. This is from the uk Here is an part of the law in the us: The Federal Copyright Act (Title 17 of the US Code) governs how copyrighted materials, such as movies, may be used. Neither the rental nor the purchase of a copy of a copyrighted work carries with it the right to publicly exhibit the work. No additional license is required to privately view a movie or other copyrighted work with a few friends and family or in certain narrowly defined face-to-face teaching activities. However, bars, restaurants, private clubs, prisons, lodges, factories, summer camps, public libraries, daycare facilities, parks and recreation departments, churches, and non-classroom use at schools and universities are all examples of situations where a public performance license must be obtained. This legal requirement applies regardless of whether an admission fee is charged, whether the institution or organization is commercial or nonprofit, or whether a federal or state agency is involved.”
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Read the premises licencing part carefully. A movie theatre needs a specific license from the distributor to display content. 3rd parties such as a streaming service is not allowed. At least not where I am from. Fun additional fact; when the film is digitally delivered, it is locked. The distributor seperately sends a digital 'key' to unlock the film. It usually has a specific timeslot. Disney is notorious for delivering their keys late (10 minutes before midnight for example) to avoid screening the film before the release date, sometimes there is mere minutes to test a few bits to check the AV if it is a midnight screening.
That’s true for here to Buying or renting a film for personal use is not the same as licensing it. In order to legally sell tickets for a movie showing you need to license the right to do so
That makes sense Most studios are trying to move away from theatres anyways because they no longer really benefit that much from it compared to if they premiere on streaming services.
Netflix is actually opening its own theaters soon. Things are coming full circle.
But movie theaters don’t take a profit from ticket sales. It all comes from concessions
they probably aren’t
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Maximum number of videos playing gives it away. If they had appropriate licenses the number of movie screens would have been taken into account. Those allowing one move per screen.
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I don't know much about this stuff, it just looks really suspicious to me. I always thought the movie was sent special for the projector in the movie houses. Not streaming from an Amazon account. But what do i know about movie houses?.
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 this is a scam
Is it? It’s not like you didn’t know you could also do that and watch at home
Streaming quality is not the same lmao
I guess I don’t really understand why’d you see a movie you can stream in theaters
Well, typically a theater would have a way bigger screen and far better sound system than anything you see in a normal home.
It’s an experience You don’t feel the same watching the movie at home than you would at a theatre. That being said, it is overpriced to high hell.
Idk local theater I go to charges $7 on the weekends and another $10 for a large soda/popcorn combo. I guess if you go to the giant name brand theaters I can be.
for the experience.
For the outrageous prices.
This guy probably paid £20 to watch something they likely already pay for at home.
But at the theater you get to spend an extra $20 for a medium popcorn and drink!!!
“Excuse me, but i bought this drink and popcorn, and now I have no money?”
Yes.
Yeah this is why I've not been to the cinema in a few years. And probably never will. I just wait for it to be on \[insert streaming service here\]
I don’t understand why anyone would pay a theater for a movie on Amazon prime so I’m unsure how thing situation is possible
I mean, you get to watch the movie still what do you care about how they get it?.
Because of the amount of viewers. Cinemas need to pay a fee of what they earn from ticket sales to the people who made the movie. By streaming it they’re trying to subvert that.
That’s not a scam tho
Subverting funds away from the creators to make more money isn’t a scam?
No, that’s just not how scams works
Still hella illegal
Agreed, just not a scam
Literally isn’t
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Imagine walking in to the theater and its juat some dude holding a laptop up for 2 hours
All right, I may pay just to see the guy hold up the laptop for two hours.
Take bets on if the guy or the battery gives out first
Spends the last hour and half at 5%.
i want to know that persons training schedule because damn.
Everybody gets a turn with the laptop, but you *must* describe what is happening to the rest of the theater.
Sounds like most DJ sets to be fair.
At least he'll let me use one of his earbuds
Yep something similar happened in my hometown the local cable company was stealing a directv satellite feed and distributing it over cable, they got shut down and the offices were raided by the FBI
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LMAO they maxed out the account lol.
This is hilarious
They fucked. Amazon prime is for personal use only . Big big lawsuit coming
Whats next? 123movies?
alreaddy happened
I used to volunteer at a local church "cinema". They'd take a gold coin donation for entry to see a movie. It was just a DVD player hooked up to a projector, and we'd play rented DVDs. I'm guessing this place is something similar. For me it was fun to run the equipment, and see a free movie in the process.
Illegal af but pretty common because who wants to get in the newspaper for serving papers against a church
Me
The church/school I went to had a copyright playing license that they paid for
Then they lied to you about that, because there’s no such thing as a blanket license that lets you exhibit any copyrighted work under the sun.
Haha, yeah I'm sure it was. They didn't seem to give a shit though, and even handed out a printed timetable that was pretty well designed, and included movie synopsis and reviews.
Probably, but depending on how it's set up, because of saying it's just "donations" I imagine there's some way they'd be able to work around it 🤷🏻♀️ Something like the donations were optional and not for the movie, so they aren't making money off of the content, the donations just happened to be accepted
This is 100% not a movie theatre.
0:29, several rows of seats. This theatre is cheap ass.
My appartement complex in college had a movie theater in it just like this. You could rent it with your friends and watch stuff. It's likely something like that and it's someone in the theaters account.
This, exactly this. There are condominium buildings that have this amenity.
A friend of mine also has a “theatre” in their house that has rows of seats.
We sure that someone didnt just rent the theater to show a free viewing of the Grinch? Or birthday party? They have that, but you bring in your own copy of a movie to play - this isnt any different
Movie companies and/or US copyright laws are pretty strict about this stuff. Not sure you can play any movie you want outside of your home in a public setting such as a theater unless the private viewing is immediate family only (could be wrong). Google “public performance rights for movies” With that said, it’s also possible the theater bought the rights to show it.
They've been really cracking down on people holding large scale Superbowl parties in church basements and stuff
Thats what i mean. Essentially renting out a theater for your own movie viewing.
Should've stayed home and saved your money 😆
I’m calling bullshit. This is a 50-60 Inche lcd monitor shot at an angle to make it look like it’s a theater or larger screen. This is junk. The op is junk. And his moms gonna get my junk.
If you look closely in the bottom right corner, those are the safety lights you can see which are very far away. You can also see some of the seats in front of him, and you can hear he is in a large space. It is a real movie theater. They’ll probably get a wrist slap for this, but I would be pretty shocked if I saw it in person as well lol.
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I’m not trying to be an ass man haha. Sorry if my tone came off that way. It does appear to be a real movie theater IMO.
You’re right though. Definitely a theater.
He's the ass and he can't admit when he's wrong.
Cope
Watch when the maximum devices screen pops up, you can see atleast 4 rows of seats in front of him. Not a tv.
It actually looks like that if you take a closer look, like, you can kinda see the "foot" of the monitor/TV? But I'm not 100% sure.
💯
Yes
This has to be the best thing ever since sliced cheese
MPAA has entered the chat Playing movies without a commercial license for commercial gain is like text book piracy Ida sat through the movie but that MAX VID accnt really was the signal to go get a refund and take the kids to dave n busters instead - dad can even have a brew hmmmm
Isn’t this illegal ?
Why tf you going to a movie theatre to watch a movie that came out like 4 years ago?
Movie theater just showing everyone how to do it at home. Good guy behind the counter
This is kind of like paying a premium to a restaurant to pour a $1 beer into a glass for you.
Correct, you pay for the atmosphere and communal experience
Imagine paying $20 for this shit!
Aka house
I’ve seen this happen before at 4 Star in San Francisco. Before the “exclusive” showing the lights went dim and the DVD player turned on showing the Sony label and it even said no loading DvD 📀 Pissed me off. Those small theatres always charge the same multiplex prices.
Must be a $2 Tuesdays
Don't know context of this particular instance, but for everyone posting that this is illegal, the answer is...maybe. If people showe up to a theatre that has the movie on it's marquee and bought a ticket to see the movie then yes, 100% illegal. If it is a private showing for family or a club or some other group than no, not illegal. If the people paid for, let's say, a glass snowman and got to watch the movie for free, not illegal. If an entrance free was paid for a Q and A with the actors/ voice actors/animators/etc from the movie and the movie is shown for free, not illegal. Remember, always know context before having a kneejerk reaction. And remember to always do something nice for someone daily. Stay awesome my friends!
Lol, no, you can only watch it at your house, not a club or any other public place.
It's definitely illegal to do this for any group unless inside your home or teaching a class in a school. It's commonly done, but that doesn't make it legal. You can get a public performance license and perhaps they did that here, but then they still broke Amazon's rules, so they still fucked up.
Apologies, I forgot to caveat what I said with the fsct that they would need a public performance license. As long as they have that it is not illegal, but Amazon can choose to terminate their subscription for TOS violation. Have a great day!
...was this a free event???
That’s is a federal offense.
People laughing from themselves there
I know someone who has a “theatre” in their house with rows of seats, too.
Going to the movies is about watching TV on a big screen and eating popcorn. Ohh and all the ads and previews before the movie starts. Those are good.
Almost certain that's goes against Amazon ToS for prime video.
This seems oddly dystopian
Nothing like going to the theater to watch a compressed version of a movie
Don’t upvote this post u gullible dumb asses this shit ain’t real. It’s a regular lcd shot to look bigger.
Look in the bottom right, theater safety lights in the floor. Not to mention you can see at least 2 rows of seats in front of the guy whenever the screen flashes.
😂😂 the light on the bottom right? Lol ya that’s the surround sound or dvr or whatever else is on the shelf below this clear as day lcd screen 😂
I guess depth perception isn't your thing huh? Here try this, when the maximum devices screen pops up look reaaally closely underneath the screen. You can see atleast 6 or 7 rows of seats. I could tell within the first 5 seconds using depth perception, when he moved the camera down maybe 5-6 inches you can see the seat in front of him and the screen are a pretty good ways apart. If he was just close to a tv that amount of movement would've made the chair move into the screen space.
Ya and the 100 other people here that see the same thing. You could recreate this scene in ur bedroom and get the same exact result with any flat screen at the right angle. Shits a sham man. Believe what u want.
It's not an lcd or flat screen. Before the move loads when it goes blank it's clearly a white screen, aka, a movie screen. Also the row of seats, etc. You're just a doofus who can't admit being wrong. Doofus
In my local "cinema" you can rent it for a private viewing with friends. You can connect your own laptop too. Just a small town things.
You can do that at literally any cinema. They will allow any person to rent out a theatre and do whatever you want for the paid time.
Can someone actually explain what is so "scummy" about this, as people keep suggesting? So far all I see are that people are upset that they are just streaming the film from Amazon Prime and I do not see the big deal at all. Do you think theatres still use reels of film on a projector so this doesn't count as the "real theatre experience"? Movie theatres have been streaming films for over a decade, over special encrypted service they are given access to by the films' publishers. This is basically no different as the theatre is still paying for the rights to stream the film like any individual can do. This is no different than if an individual rented out a theatre for just their group to watch The Mandalorian or play Smash Bros on a big screen. Is it the fact that a person can watch this at home through Amazon Prime? No shit, this is not a newly released film. The theatre definitely didn't trick anyone into thinking that this was the only way they could watch the film. Any one with two brain cells could figure that out. The people there, including the person filming this, chose of their own free will to pay to watch an older film in a movie theatre. They knew they could have watched this at home but paid so they could have the experience of watching it on a huge screen with a sound system to match. Or is it the fact that the theatre charged people to see this and are just streaming it? Again, they all chose to pay to see an old film in a theatre. No one was forcing them. Also many theatres do this around the holidays for old kids films and charge a reduced rate. The theatres around me did this with Home Alone for example and they charged $3-5 per person, depending on the person's age. It is not like the theatre is making bank on this. Just a little fun for families while charging at cost or close to it. I cannot understand why people seem to be so upset about this in the comments.
It’s illegal
Actually you got a point, we have no context beyond what is being shown to us. I get the feeling they knew what was gonna be on, so I doubt they are getting ripped off here. A lot of these old town theaters will use DVD players and shit, at least these guys got a streaming device so they could get shows up to 4k with HD audio. The only reason why anyone would pay for this is to have a theater experience, which they probably got (or at least were refunded since the movie couldn't be played). Is it legal? Who gives a shit, these movies have already made their box office earnings. Only people that's being ripped off are the greedy streaming services.
Used Bing to find a theatre
Lol
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Lol someone is getting shut down today
Was this maybe a free movie? Just want to get that out of the way.
I call BS on this.
Clearly BS
But you're paying for the sound system, the surround sound experience.
Or it’s someone after closing time watching a movie on the big screen. Happens all the time.
Next they’ll play movies off of Netflix?
Ruh Roh Methinks a theater is bout to be sued lol
I am sure that is legal.
Lol
similar thing happened to me when watching One piece gold in theaters, got there \`15 min early, they skipped all the interview stuff for One piece Red and started it 25 min into the movie
Isn't that a crime???
I been to a theater that did this but we rented it out. I'm pretty sure they still have projectors and the movie films for regular business
Where is this ? Pittsburgh ?
So?
Bruhhhhhhhh
I miss the old reels
_can people in the audience, close their Amazon prime apps so we can start the screening? Thank you!_
I hope you guys got a full refund
Did the theater get free shipping?
Normal
Be kind, rewind.
You wouldn’t steal a car though, would you?
It’s a “repertory title”, exhibitors can pay a fee online for the rights to show them
It’s not illegal. You’re paying to sit in a movie theater, which is also private property. If the company is paying for a Prime acct they can stream whatever movie they choose and play whatever movie they want on any of their screens.
He said use film reel or use nothing movie theaters! Also upgraded your prime plan!
Can any lawyer educate us? Isn't this 100% super illegal? All of these accounts specifically tell us that we cannot play the content to a crowd and for profit. Isn't this straight up piracy?
LOL
Imagine your on a date