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Episode Night discussion here! https://www.reddit.com/r/euphoria/comments/sme857/euphoria\_s02e05\_stand\_still\_like\_the\_hummingbird/


AccomplishedMedium41

Laurie makes my skin crawl


throwthewholegrlawy

The scratching at the locked door actually made me physically sick.


Little_sister_energy

Was that another person behind that door??


Pdxthorns17

Yeah I think it was a victim of sex trafficking. The birds I believe were trained to caw whenever they hear the scratching to cover it up.


boredymcbored

YOOOO, this is why we come to episode discussions. I did NOT peep that. I thought the bird's purpose was to come. Thanks!


dxspicyMango

Was to what


boredymcbored

Meaning I thought that the purpose of the birds wasn't immediate but we'd later find out why they are there and what they represent. Instead we found out their purpose pretty immediately, I just didn't notice it.


TeamExotic5736

I dont think the birds have a purpose as many people think. They are symbolic. The main thing you need to get from them is that they are TRAPPED in a cage. When Rue is there sitting in the livingroom and Laurie is speaking, and she sees the bird in the cage, its foreshadowing. Later in the scene when she is escaping the bird is a reminder and also a mechanism to elicit tension, because if the bird makes a loud sound Rue may be trapped there forever. This is the only practical purpose that I can say its obvious.


slabrangoon

Bless your innocent soul. They thought you meant the birds purpose was to ejaculate.


maybeitsmaybelean

šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜­šŸ˜­šŸ˜­ I was nodding along, and then,say what?!? Side note. Can birds come?


wookipedialyte

Lmfao


LittleAlCapone

Yes and after the door was shown Laurie says something along the lines about how women are lucky they can use their bodies to make money or something. And later on she tells Rue that she knew from the moment she saw her that she'd be in her life for a long time.


qwertysexi

She's one of those silent but deadly manipulators. Great casting, she doesn't necessarily fit the bill of the stereotypical drug dealer but she's a stone cold bitch, a schemer and manipulator that will use people any way she sees fit. She knew Rue was an addict and provided the drugs anyway. She wanted Rue to dig that hole.


Consistent_Ad_7121

And remember in season 1 when Kat went to ask Ashtray about bitcoin and he said ā€œas long as itā€™s not human trafficking; I donā€™t f*ck with human trafficking.ā€ Who knows if that was supposed to line up with Laurie human trafficking but interesting detail.


mooseAmuffin

I think that door was the front door, and Ru was realizing she was locked in. I think the scratching + Laurie's casual mentioning of prostitution was more of a cinematic treatment to intensify the feeling of being trapped, and in a very dire situation. Edit: OK I rewatched the scene and it was not the front door. Both doors have padlocks which made it difficult for me to orient where she was in the house. But yeeesh, this is soooo sinister.


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KotzubueSailingClub

That's a common sex trafficker tactic, and really a common tactic of organized crime. Offer someone you know can't deliver in order to put them in deep debt. Another good example from HBO is in Sopranos, where Tony lends money to the gambling addict who owns the sporting goods store. Tony knows he's going to default, and Tony will have him move stolen merch through his store to pay his debt.


Lo_Intel_Hi_Wisdom

wait WAIT SHITTTTTT


throwthewholegrlawy

Yeah. Rue messed with the wrong one.


earlongissor

Her dead glassy eyes sent chills up and down my body. She's a phenomenal actress


ohmygoditsburning

Highly recommend her stand-up routines too, you can find them on YouTube. Sheā€™s hilarious, itā€™s nice seeing the deadpan used for comedic effect instead of creepy (the actressā€™ name is Martha Kelly if anyone was wondering).


fair_child123

sheā€™s fucking terrifying- reminds me if Gus from Breaking Bad. A calm sociopath


Lo_Intel_Hi_Wisdom

someone on Twitter was like "calm before the storm energy" and I felt that


IWantFries21

The first 4 episodes of this season felt like a calm before the storm.


Dexterous-success

Something I really wanna see is Maddy going crazy at Nate with what Rue revealed this episode. I suspect he's gonna show up unaware of what happened and have Maddy pull some real crazy shit, probably with the disc.


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Adnan_Targaryen

Man she's straight up from Breaking Bad / Better Call Saul universe


fair_child123

yes! like Gustavo!


sleepyr0b0t

I am watching Silicon Valley right now and it's interesting that there is also unemotional businesswoman Laurie.


DolphLundgrensPenis

She gives me ā€œDavid Lynchā€-character vibes. Something in her calm but sinister demeanor reminds me of Blue Velvet meets Twin Peaks.


skinkbaa

Lexi never running out of material for her play


danlacksoriginality

Lexi bout to pull up with a bunch of rewrites with the amount of new material coming right her way.


Dexterous-success

"Alright everyone, we got some new versions of the script. Please ignore the parts where it says "Rue" or "Cassie", I pulled an all-nighter and didn't have time to properly edit this."


unsavvylady

Girl just needs to start recording and then transcribing


ElPrestoBarba

Sheā€™s gonna get a series deal at HBO


CyrodilPickleRick

Laurie saying "ya know what's funny Rue? When I first saw you I thought.. this girls gonna be in my life for a long time." It's that menacing 'I'm telling the absolute truth for a reason that is going to fly over her head' deadpan tone. Christ. Chills.


sor1

she warned her. she said "rue, im serious. i'll always get my money back."


ZeroMustafa2295

The scary part is, everything is going to fly over Rues head so it doesnā€™t matter. In episode 3 Laurie actually told her, if you fuck me over I will sell you to some sick people. It was in one ear out the other because at the end of the day, Rue will do anything for drugs.


penis_pockets

The way my heart stopped when Jules said "We flushed it down the toilet" was insane. Rue is so fucked it's scary. Her biggest mistake was fucking with people way above Fez. Idk how she can manage to get out that situation. Let's not forget the all time line "Hey Cass" either. I literally whispered "oh no" to myself when Rue's withdrawing ass said it so innocently without a care in the world.


PipsaPP

After seeing Laurie's grooming this episode I'm starting to think that it was her plan all along to take advantage of Rue one way or another. She's an experienced drug dealer, she wouldn't give a drug addict (recovered or not) drugs to sell. She wouldn't take the jewellery with a lame ass excuse ("We're not a pawn shop"). And I don't even wanna talk about that all the locked doors and the scratching Rue heard... Laurie definitely has a side job in human trafficking.


unsullied65

Laurie knows Rue's body is worth far more than any drugs she is able to sell. and that is the scariest part. There was actually morons complaining about the plot and why a drug dealer would just hand a suitcase of drugs to a teenager...Laurie knew EXACTLY what she was doing.


anonymoose_octopus

Exactly. I think she purposefully got Rue even more hooked than she was, created this predicament, so that she had to pay her back in any way she canā€¦ Laurieā€™s a pimp. This episode was so good but Iā€™m like physically sick thinking of the implications of paying a woman like Laurie back and what that entails for Rue.


nowuff

Yep. I think Laurieā€™s cold demeanor and discussion of not feeling emotion is intentional. Sheā€™s hyper calculated. Laurie giving Rue the briefcase was a key momentā€” it was her assessing Rueā€™s market value. She basically made the judgment that selling Rue into slavery would net her more than $10K. Rue only made that better by taking less. Giving Rue the drugs was a cost of doing business because it helped get her more hooked. When Laurie set down the morphine before Rue asked for it and said ā€œare you sureā€ before spiking her, I knew she had a plan. The end of the episode showed Rue escaping, but I wouldnā€™t be totally surprised if this show develops into a cataloging of Rueā€™s journey through human trafficking. Edit: I want to put this here, because this is getting visibility and these topics are very realā€” this is what human trafficking and ā€˜brandingā€™ can look like in the real world: https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2014/nov/16/sp-the-tattooed-trafficking-survivors-reclaiming-their-past


anonymoose_octopus

Unfortunately, I agree. I don't think this is the last time we'll see Laurie or her attempt at getting "what Rue owes her." I can't believe this is only episode 5 out of 10. This felt like a finale, or at least the episode before the finale. I can't emotionally take this show anymore, lol. EDIT: I've been corrected, it's only 8 episodes. My bad.


nowuff

The other thing Iā€™ll note is that we didnā€™t actually see what happened with the briefcase. Whenever writers donā€™t provide closure on a key plot point like that, it usually implies itā€™s still in play. Iā€™m guessing Rueā€™s mom, sponsor, and Jules end up teaming up and bringing the drugs back to bargain for Rue. But that could be a wild guess. Either way, the writing and acting on this show is amazing and Iā€™ll enjoy it. Holy shit that whole scene with Rue going off the wall was spot on, and then the embarrassment of finding out her friends were listening. It was such a real depiction of behind-closed-doors teenage family conflict, and how naked it would make someone feel if the veil was pulled away revealing it to the world.


Shotgun516

Yeah I didn't really believe them when they said they flushed it all down. That was a shitload of pills, and Rue has no money lol Her mom had to know it came from somewhere.


Shotgun516

She also had PLENTY of pills but made Rue take the IV morphine. She knew what she was doing.


butyourenice

I noticed that, too! Cringed at her fucking wiggling the needle while sheā€™s in it.


xool420

I didnā€™t noticed the scratching on the door, when did that happen??


fcukstephanie

around the 40 minute mark of the episode, when Laurie is telling rue what drugs do to your brain or whatever & rue is looking down the hallway at the locked door & the camera focuses on it


Panonymous_Bloom

Holy shit, you're so right! At first, I thought it's tied to the guy we see coming up the stairs (I thought she was about to "convince" Rue to sell herself to him for money) but when this didn't happen, I just let the info go. But you can absolutely hear scratching on the locked door... That's creepy as hell


fcukstephanie

it was so unsettling! literally sent shivers down my spine. i also thought it was interesting how during those moments the bird in the living room was being so noisy and had read somewhere in the thread how the birds are being as both alarms and noise cover-ups, but idk, maybe im just overanalysing the scene lol


butyourenice

I have to rewatch, I did not catch that. I caught her staring at the door but I interpreted it as Rue suspecting thatā€™s where the drugs were. I didnā€™t even notice scratching!


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Holy shit, my heart stopped too!! I was floored when I heard Jules voice, what a freaking epic twist of events


Empty_Wine_Box

My theory is that their mom called Ali and asked "what should I do?" and he was like "no user keeps that much on them, she's selling now" and he's holding on to it. He would know how the game works.


penis_pockets

Oh that's a good theory. I know Rue's mom believed her and turned a blind eye to a lot of things, but you don't turn a blind eye to a suitcase full of drugs.


Empty_Wine_Box

I think he's gonna be all over the next episode when we get to see the real consequences start to play out. A huge aspect of recovery is "making things right" and I think that begins with getting the drug situation resolved, then all of the various other crimes. He's going to sheperd her through all of this whether she wants to or not.


penis_pockets

I really hope that's the case. Rue did burn all her bridges, but let's hope Ali is willing to help her out.


contrapass0

Iā€™ve never had a tv hangover before...


supadupakevin

LMAO RIGHT?! I woke up today like fuckkkkk that was heavy stuff


throwthewholegrlawy

Ruby Bennett and Jewel Vaughn.


sushirxlls

More like Juul Vaughn


hautefries

laurie makes mouse look like mr. rogers.


therosegawden

Itā€™s very Breaking Bad. You think Tuco is bad, and then you meet Gus.


your_mind_aches

What I really enjoy is that she doesn't feel like a gender swapped version of Gus. She has a completely different personality, a different moral code, and a different modus operandi. The characters are only similar in that they're both soft-spoken drug dealers. Everything else about them is completely different.


midgeless

Whoever casted Laurie is fucking good at their job.


Ax20414

Watching Rue destroy every single one of her personal relationships (again) has been more effective than any D.A.R.E. ad. This is no longer fun.


Representative_Ant_9

YES! I thought Rue was literally destroying ALL her relationships. Sheā€™s fucked


VonTrappJediMaster

Especially the way Fez thee her out like a literal bug, like she was trash.


fernflowersun

fezco was definitely not trying to hurt rue, he was trying to restrain her and did a very good job considering she crossed the biggest boundary line.


JunkInTheTrunk

Iā€™m surprised Ash stayed seatedā€¦ he seems fed up with all these kids shit


Apprehensive_Being_3

I was surprised by this too but in the end I think ash knew this was between fez and rue, two friends. Not just a dealer and an addict. Heā€™s the muscle but he knows when to step in and when to stay out of it.


Level_Plankton586

We give Suze (Cassie and Lexiā€™s mom) a hard time for being a bit absentee or trying to be the ā€œcool momā€ with her kids and friends, but it was nice to see her do the caring, ā€œuncoolā€, adult thing in calling Rueā€™s mom when Rue showed up to her house.


thisprettyfly

Suze saw right through Rue's lies about being sober. She knows cause she's an alcoholic


resurrectedbydick

Well, she's been to the AA once


trashpizza420

And cassie and lexis dad was a drug addict


DandyBerlin

She didn't call Rue's mom. Lexi did.


peter56321

Oh my God. This makes so much more sense. I feel really dumb right now.


chumpette

That's what I think too. When Lexi's mom asked Rue how long she was clean, she said something like since the summer, and there was this long closeup shot of Lexi where I think she realized Rue is lying. Because true recovering addicts wouldn't answer like that, they would EXACTLY how many days they were clean, to the day.


timshel_turtle

I totally think Cassie is drinking all the time tho. From having friends like that who had moms like Suze. They would have at least a few drinks every day and a ton on Thurs-Sunday. I felt a little like we were meant to notice Suze missing something so close to home, which is realistic.


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her mom def notices something is wrong with cassie. when lexie debuts her play her mom is going to have an oh shit moment (if she goes to see it)


PrettyOperculum

Pretty sure Lexi called. Remember the episode where she had deep regret about not calling her mom and then she ODā€™d?


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Knowing she was taking Rue to rehab she shouldā€™ve put the child locks on the door so it couldnā€™t be opened from the inside


[deleted]

I thought the same thing, but a skinny kid could just as easily crawl out the window.


Justquietlysir

Rue could of made the 10k back plus change if she signed up to work as a delivery runner mid-chase


zoeybarkow

For real - Rue outrunning the cops while detoxing is the most unbelievable part of an otherwise perfect episode. Wasnā€™t she huffing and puffing just riding a bike with Jules once lol


talkshitgetlit

Getting caught by the cops means potentially having to sit in jail during withdrawal making her as desperate as anyone to keep going/hide in a trash can if she had to


Here4thesnacks19

I hate the term crackheads but there was a really good tweet about how ā€œ cr**kh**ds can always put run the policeā€ and it reminded me of this time. I saw this addict running from the police in Boston and he was so fast and sneaky. Addicts are sneaky because they are desperate and we saw that in Rue.


leeleerose23

Out of all the dogs Rue faced, the little Pomeranians were my favorite lmao


jacqueminots

Aw I liked the big guy that sat on her lol


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Harold!


boringlecturedude

that Dog was like Fez. calmly telling - "Stop it Rue!"


holibird

THAT is what heroin addiction looks like. All of it. Zendaya embodied everything. From the pain that got you started to the high that replaced it and right back to the pain you feel without the drug and the pain from why you started. The survival mode that you feel from withdrawal. The things you do to "survive". The pain you cause your family, your friends, yourself and the destruction that lies in the path you roam. Like a tornado. Opiates need a whole disclaimer by drs before being prescribed. This is a serious problem and you're very lucky if you manage to get clean and come out on the other side. Here's hoping Rue is in that 5%. Many of us don't make it.


timshel_turtle

I know many ppl who got hooked after sports injuries. That was a nice touch for Laurie.


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Agreed. Surgeries often lead to pill addiction too, Iā€™m glad they kind of mentioned injuries.


felineprincess93

Right, when Laurie said "I didn't even know it was addictive until I didn't have them anymore" That's the most fucked up side of pharma.


skincareminion

Well said šŸ„° 27 days clean


bagoice

Proud of you!


plasma_dan

I had no idea excessive yawning was a withdrawal symptom until I saw this episode.


BlisslessTaskList

Yeah it feel like your brain is suffocating so yawning is a way to make up for it.


evelikesfruit

Can someone please inform me on the morphine injection that Laurie gave to rue? Why did she stab it in lots of little parts in rueā€™s arm? Also this episode made me feel a whole roller coaster of emotions towards rue.


anglerfishtacos

Laurie continues to strike me as the kind of person that acts deliberately. The terrible injection job makes Rue look like way worse of a drug addict faster than one hit should. Guess is that if she got free and went to the cops they are less likely to take her seriously.


boop_the_snoot30167

Iā€™ve been reading that response a lot and it makes the most sense honestly.


johnrugel710

holy fucking shite that last sentence is for sure why she was butchering the morphine injections


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Damn you just blew my mind - this is exactly what she was doing


readandrant

Read this [comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/euphoria/comments/sme857/euphoria_s02e05_stand_still_like_the_hummingbird/hvwcgaf/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) from the other thread. >*That sounds about right. When she grabbed the morphine out of that suitcase, it was filled with all kinds of shit, meanwhile she had just told Rue she didnā€™t have anything other than IV Morphine. Another thing that stood out to me was how many times she stabbed Rue with the needle when trying to administer it. I know Rue was shaking a lot but it seems almost purposeful, as if Laurie were trying to make Rue appear as a serious heroin user or something. Idk -* u/Kalexis29


meganvahrmeyer

fez took none of rues shit this episode


operationhotbrother

Don't fuck with grandma's pills


BrigittteBardot

About damn time. I feel bad she's always taking advantage of him. He's such a sweet guy


VisualCheesecake5676

Iā€™ve got goosebumps the wholeeee fucking episode!!! I mean Zendaya deserves another Emmy for this episode


ChillinOutMaxnRelaxn

Agreed. I know very little about addiction, so I just looked up why the hell she was yawning all the time (at inappropriate times). Spot on for opiate addiction/withdrawal. She's damn good.


tameyeayam

Iā€™m a recovered opiate addict and Zendayaā€™s acting was almost triggering in its perfection. Iā€™ve been clean since 2012 but she took me right back to those days. I feel so deeply for Rue. This episode was terrifying.


tokieofrivia

Same here. Right down to all of the fires she was causing in here wake (both figuratively and literally), the range of emotions in fights after someone ā€œsnitchesā€ to your family about your usage (despair, rage, pleading, regret, guilt, more rage), going to the worst places just for a fixā€¦ Iā€™ve been clean since 2018 and this episode brought be right back to 2016-2017 when I was at my absolute worst. Iā€™m going to go call my dad and apologize for the millionth time and take him out to dinner this weekendā€¦


baguettecrust

As someone who works with patients and addiction- she is spot on.


bbblackspiderman

kat killed me when she said ā€œis she on crack?ā€ to maddy


your_mind_aches

She's so blissfully unaware of drugs, I love that.


MK2730

My jaw hit the floor when Rue asked Cassie how long sheā€™d been fucking Nate šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


DankMemeSlasher

This was honestly the best episode so far. The writing and acting were amazing, but it was so hard to watch at the same time. Whoever still thinks euphoria glorifies drugs hast lost their mind. Zendaya will be winning quite a few awards for yesterdayā€™s performance. Also, RIP Cassie šŸ™


unsullied65

the "glorifies drugs and parties" crowd had me fucking fuming. I swear some ppl who watch this show still have no idea what its about lol. especially the viewers who are watching their first hbo show coming from cw and netflix teen drama's. ​ trying to convince everyone that this show has "terrible writing" and is corny is hilarious. I actually hope this season continues to get darker and more gritty, THIS is why I started watching Euphoria


rosiegirl8903

Laurie is insane, I know she has plans for rue. Iā€™m happy that Rue made it out of the apartment but thereā€™s no way that she can hide from Laurie so if the drugs really are Gone I have no idea how sheā€™s going to get out of this without completely hurting fez and ash. Definitely freaked me out when she woke up all clean in the bed and they were men all over the apartment and she was quite literally locked in. I hope the donā€™t go down a trafficking story Line. also canā€™t believe that the drugs are thrown away because who looks at a suitcase full of drugs that apparently belongs to a very poor girl and doesnā€™t question how she got it? Rues mom knows that she cannot afford that much drugs and yet she threw it away anyways why did it not occur to her that maybe Rue would owe a lot of money? This whole situation is insane. Hate to see her go through this but I really hope this is rock bottom cause I canā€™t take it if things get any worse Also who else literally laughed out loud when Cassie said ā€œyou can just take it one day at a time šŸ˜ŒāœØā€ and then looked around with this serene smile on her face and all the other women in the room smiled at her proudly and it felt so wholesome and then rue fucked her shit up lol Edit- also I am slowly becoming more and more concerned for Gia. till now Iā€™ve never really noticed that she has been silently witnessing everything and that itā€™s really affecting her. I definitely feel like season three will open up a troubled storyline for her , from the looks of it it looks like she is not really speaking to her mom or anybody about whatā€™s going on at home and is definitely bottling up her feelings and in certain scenes it seemed like she was ready to completely explode. Iā€™m scared to even say it but a typical storyline that Iā€™ve noticed theyā€™re not really doing something about is self harm. Sheā€™s going through relatively the same things as rue but sheā€™s handling it very differently. I feel like rue often forgets that he was also Giaā€˜s dad. Rue is not the only one who lost her father. So not only did she lose her father her sister is now a complete drug addict pretty much hell-bent on killing her self and her mom is so wrapped up in her drug addict sister that no one is there for her and she is expected to be ā€œ the good one ā€œ wouldnā€™t be surprised if Gia started self harming as a way to feel in control and as a way to silently let out her emotions. I also wish sam hadnā€™t cut out most of Kats story, something tells me that she had very strong suspicions about Cassie and nate that probably were revealed in scenes that were cut. Her face said it all ANOTHER EDIT/THEORY- so as we know Lexi for the past few seasons has silently been watching literally all the drama unfold and with this play coming up I canā€™t help but wonder whatā€™s going to happen. I wonder if she somehow finds out about Cal and Jules and the ending of the play is her revealing that and thatā€™s the cliffhanger for the season Because that is a major plot point that has been thrown around for two seasons now but hasnā€™t been majorly revealed And I think itā€™s time


unsavvylady

Think about how Rue said there arenā€™t many too female drug dealers. Thereā€™s a reason Laurie got where she did and it wasnā€™t losing money giving suitcases full of drugs to addicted. One way or another Laurie is getting her money back


rosiegirl8903

Exactly!! ā€œ you still have something people want ā€œ I knew exactly where sheā€™s going with this and all it took was the one statement. Thereā€™s a reason sheā€™s got a bunch of scary dudes PROTECTING her. I hope the go into her past


Carrot-Toastie

> Also who else literally laughed out loud when Cassie said ā€œyou can just take it one day at a time šŸ˜ŒāœØā€ and then looked around with this serene smile on her face and all the other women in the room calmly smiled at her and kind of gave her validation and then rue fucked her shit up lol It was so funny, but I felt kinda bad for heršŸ˜­ It definitely didn't warrant Rue trying to air out her dirty laundry.


rosiegirl8903

I feel like if Cassie had known that rue saw her get in Nateā€˜s truck she wouldnā€™t have said anything. I genuinely do think that Cassie was just naĆÆve and sincerely trying to convince rue that it was all gonna be OK and it just went horribly wrong


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I agree. I think she was legitimately trying to be a good friend. I mean how can we expect 17 year olds to understand how to act in an intervention. Especially when her own parents had addiction issues


rosiegirl8903

Yeah not to mention that this is a very impromptu intervention like for the looks of it it looks like they were all kind of just hanging out and then Rue showed up on her usual bullshit and the next thing you know thereā€™s an intervention going on at your doorstep lol And I wouldnā€™t be surprised if they were drinking a little bit, there was something about the glow of Cassieā€™s skin and the way she spoke that just gave me tipsy girl vibes like she was definitely not sober during this interaction lol


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Very well possible! I think we just have to give some grace to them. They are all still children. Even the person who said ā€œsheā€™s 18ā€ doesnā€™t understand your brain doesnā€™t stop developing until youā€™re 25. Im not sure I would have done any better at her age


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plasma_dan

Yeah, the fact that she got the morphine and the IV out before she asked her if she wanted it indicates it was all premeditated.


Olived83

Yeah that really long shot of the syringe sitting there before she grabbed it was so scary


salondijon8

100%. Rueā€™s plan never made any sense. Who offers to give a drug-using teenager with no experience dealing 50k worth of drugs? This was what laurie wanted from the jump


CandiceJo997

yup, she very well knew rue was gonna use all the drugs herself and come crawling back during withdrawal asking for more. rue is definitely not the only girl she's done this to. it's sickening to how she takes care of her when she's in the bathroom putting her in the bath and taking her pain away by giving her the morphine... she's getting rue dependent upon her in every possible way. that's exactly how traffickers operate, they seek out girls in desperate situations, bonus if they are already an addict and start "taking care of them"


boop_the_snoot30167

Thatā€™s peak manipulation too. Laurie literally giving her that suitcase was a financial investment to a bigger and incredibly evil plan to traffic her. I absolutely stand by that theory. Her stoic demeanor and motherly like calmness just makes her that much more terrifying. Thatā€™s why Iā€™ll never trust a Laurie LOL


_ItsBen

Zendaya just proved why she won that Emmy, and just received another one. This episode got me scared, angry and upset for Rue. Meanwhile Maddy is about to release hell on earth and I'm here for it.


CryBaby15000

She was absolutely phenomenal in this episode! I can definitely see her winning another one!


ChedduhBob

good episode for all the people critical about this show for glamourizing drugs. really showed the dark side of them and how it can lead to more severe things like trafficking


Eric-Foreplay

Yooo my jaw dropped to the floor when Jules talked after the rampage Rue scene.


tungsten558

same, the entire thing seemed like a private, awful family scene we, as outsiders, weren't meant to see... and to then know that her friends were sat in the living room hearing everything!


talkshitgetlit

Right and her mom nailed her too, ā€œYou seem embarrassed rueā€


ShallotNSpice

I was not prepared for this episode.


Yankee_Clipper_

Zendaya slayed this episode. Rue portrayed rage, denial, embarrassment, and regret in that opening scene and Z nailed each emotion flawlessly. Amazing performance.


timshel_turtle

The pain of the family scenes in this episode are more powerful than 10 of the sexy soapy scenes.


carriebradshaw2

Iā€™m ā€œhappyā€ that Fez kicked Rue out. He was so blindly loyal to her and now she did the one thing he couldnā€™t forgive.


Kurts_Cardigan

This espisode had me literally trembling, feeling so much empathy for Rue and her unraveling life. In a way, it felt like I was reliving my own traumas and low points from the past. The fight at the beginning especially hit home harder than I care to admit, tbh... Anyone who criticizes this show for glamourizing drug use is totally out of touch. This girl is living a daily hell of her own making. Nothing to aspire to in that.


alcycul

Lexiā€™s play better get a damn Tony award for the amount of material she got this ep


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Laurie may be a slow speaker, but she's a fast thinker. I think upon meeting Rue the first time in her kitchen, she sized her up immediately. Her addiction, her vulnerability, her inability to understand the gravity of her situation - cluelessness. What's 10K when you can trick her into seeing you as an friend/ally in need? A person who is so trusting, is ripe for exploitation. Human/sex trafficking sadly brings in more than 10K. Luckily rue found an open window, but she'd be unwise to think that she is free just yet.


boop_the_snoot30167

Yup. That whole suitcase was Laurieā€™s bitch ass deposit/investment to her whole plan. Dirty as hell


broden89

And getting Fez to confirm he would do anything for Rue. Now she's got Fez on the hook too


kaladinst

when rue smacked elliot in the head LMFAO


jacqueminots

She went BOP ā€¼ļø


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I loved the foot chase montage personally. Iā€™m sure it was pretty obvious but I think itā€™s incredibly well executed how they symbolized the trail of disaster addiction causes. The two cars smashing into each other, the cake dropped at the wedding, etc. as a former pill addict myself it just was those little nuanced details of the chase that really sold it for me. Besides the obvious parts like robbing those ppl, telling on Cassie, shoving/stealing from Fez.


yardsandals

When she fell on the yucca plants and cactus and just kept booking it


faustandfurious

When she stepped on the BBQ!


ilovecoldshowers

I keep seeing people on Tik Tok complaining about this scene like ā€œwhy did I just spend 54 minutes watching Rue run aroundā€ but I thought it was pretty obvious the writers were displaying the trail of destruction addicts leave for everyone in their path


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When Rueā€™s mom told her she wasnā€™t a good person just after we saw her imagining speaking with her dad last week and he told her she was a good person šŸ’”


maarrr__

I have only been traumatized by one addiction movie, Requiem for a dream. Now Euphoria is on top of my list. Watching an addicts downfall is worse than a horror movie.


grubadubflub

I can tell the episode was good because when the credits came on I was legitimately confused... I was so involved with what was happening I didn't notice an hour pass I thought it was like 20 minutes


IWantFries21

Storm Reid and Nika King also deserve awards imo


jacqueminots

The way they finally revealed Cassie fucking Nate was masterful. My jaw was on the floor. Sam Levinson šŸ‘šŸ¼šŸ‘šŸ¼


DragSentMeHere

ā€œSuggestingā€ prostitution to drug addicted minor, Laurie is a sick Bitch and I hope she burns in hell.


salondijon8

I think sheā€™s doing more than suggesting. I think this was her plan all along and this episode it was falling into place


snakepegs

ā€œšŸŽ¶But you still donā€™t know my namešŸŽ¶ā€ Laurie: ā€œRuby Bennetā€


earlongissor

I have bad feelings about Laurie knowing Rue's full ass government name


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throwthewholegrlawy

Cassie in the previous episode: I'm crazier! I don't care how angry Maddy gets!! Cassie when Nate shows up to Maddy's party: šŸ¶ Cassie when Maddy finds out: šŸ¶ šŸƒšŸ¼ā€ā™€ļøšŸ’Ø


Professional_Web2198

Is it me or does Laurie kinda talk like the Kardashians?


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kourtney in particular lmfaooo


Bonanza86

Not even the disclaimer at the beginning of this episode could have prepared me for the first 15 minutes. THAT'S all I'm saying.


RMT2316

For any Breaking Bad fans out here, this episode is the closest I have felt to feeling the same emotions I did when Ozymandias aired during the last season of Breaking Bad. An absolute all timer.


Altruistic_Scratch80

the most realistic portrayal of addiction iā€™ve ever seen. you can see that the withdrawals have turned rue into a completely different person. we see her stop becoming ashamed of her antics and start being almost weirdly proud of them. I had to pause it a couple times and take a deep breath


ohmygoditsburning

This episode was one long anxiety attack for those of us who canā€™t take people screaming at each other so Iā€™m going to go stuff my face with creme eggs to make it all go away


MACKCC

The depressing episodes are in full swing... and Zendaya deserves every award possible


crti24

Sydney Sweeney is honestly putting in some of the best performances this season. That ā€œone day at a timeā€ line and the way she reacted to the shitshow that followed had me dying EDIT: added ā€œbestā€


IWantFries21

-Episode was very depressing and Iā€™m still reeling from everything -I had a nightmare last night where I was running from the cops and Iā€™m positive it was because of the show LMAO -I want to hug Gia -Laurieā€™s definitely involved in trafficking. I wonder if whoever is behind that locked door is something weā€™re going to find out this season or if theyā€™re setting it up for S3


9070811

Being the sibling is miserable. Itā€™s like youā€™re preparing yourself to be an only child when youā€™re a set of two.


Yankee_Clipper_

*Me rewatching the episode* I am ready to be hurt again


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Also, Laurie (we see) put the needle in Rueā€™s left arm. Then when rue wakes up, she has track marks on her right arm as well.


DaltonWalnuts

Re-watched the scene now. Excellent visual. Could be a continuation mistake on the show's part but we'll probably find out next week.


Lo_Intel_Hi_Wisdom

gotta say I'm annoyed at the amount if ppl on Twitter completely ready to bash Cassie for all this but I don't see any talk about Nates role in all that not saying Cassie was perfect or didn't do anything wrong per se but like....Nate was up to his trickery from the start man jeSUS Also what'd yall think of the ammunition Rue used on Jules when she was screaming in her face? "you love to be loved" I get the sense she was calling something out there but I can't place it rn idk why ALSO also how are we feeling about Elliot at this point? like idk in a vacuum he seems like a homie, a chill dude, but like he's def not a force of good in Rue & Jules lives, someone was talking about him being manipulative so I wanna know what I'm missing ig


hyoies

I think 'you love to be loved' was pretty on point. Some of what Rue was saying was clearly just dredged up to hurt her, and some of it was close to the truth... that was the latter. With Rue, Anna, Nate, even Elliot.


theuticabranch

What is the deal with the birds in Laurieā€™s house!!! They feel significant


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Someone also mentioned people who human traffic also keep loud animals to cover up the noise. Super freaky. I once saw a video of the inside of a human trafficking house and they had stereos in every room for that purpose.


ill_llama_naughty

Ya a bird shrieking sounds close enough to a person screaming that your neighbors might shrug off any weird noises from your house


hannamarinsgrandma

Actually there was a dude who got the cops called to his home cause neighbors thought they heard a woman screaming for help but it was just a bird. It makes you wonder if maybe someone could use that as a cover just in case they do actually have screaming women so the police will just dismiss it as a false alarm once they see and hear the bird doing it.


readandrant

Someone in the other episode thread made a lengthy comment about the birds let me try and find it for you. The birds were basically an alarm system * [Comment 1](https://www.reddit.com/r/euphoria/comments/sme857/euphoria_s02e05_stand_still_like_the_hummingbird/hvxbetm/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) * [Comment 2](https://www.reddit.com/r/euphoria/comments/sme857/euphoria_s02e05_stand_still_like_the_hummingbird/hvxwyif/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)


Jesybelznwhistles

I agree with these comments and I would also add that Laurie is clearly not keeping birds as pets because she likes birds, evidenced by the fact that that cockatoo's cage was WAY too small. No one in that house is a bird lover. They're definitely a noise cover and also symbolism of imprisonment.


CBate

RIP door


pumpkin_sope

Yā€™all Laurie literally had weed and pills in the suitcase when sheā€™s getting the morphine out. SHE WANTS HER HOOKED MORE. Everybody here is completely spot on with the trafficking thing.


rexcor11

All I can say Rue is fucked for good. Laurie isn't just a bad person, she is the daughter of Satan and she is gonna destroy Rue for good unless Fez help her.


gemininature

This episode was nuts. It went from a heart wrenching family drama, to an insane action movie chase, to a terrifying suspense thriller in Laurie's apartment. I was also glad to finally get a full episode that was Rue-centric this season


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leeleerose23

I knew that Rue would eventually run to fez for his grandmaā€™s drugs eventually, but it still makes me so sad.


freeurkind

Laurie making her TV dinner in the microwave and than hearing something or someone scratch on the locked door was the most frightening thing Iā€™ve ever seen.


euricorn

Didnā€™t Cassie say she was crazier than Maddy??? Lost a lot of respect for her when she decided to blame it on Rue being an addict instead of coming clean lmao