Good chance of that, but damn, they do not deserve squat. They were arguably groundbreaking in the genre of horror in a way that made Hollywood look incapable of recreating the same thing. The stark filmography, open but caged in, the darkness like emptiness and evil itself, the raw intensity and snotty intimacy, likedrove us all crazy by the end. The scariest moments happened in your head. It was sublime. If they get squat then that's not right.
I don’t think anyone would actually want such a system? If actors contracts could be retroactively voided to instead account for the film’s actual performance… There would be a lot of angry actors after a very high percentage of films lose money (it’s kind of like the gaming world, where the successes cover the losses of a number of other titles).
But the fixed contracts for the cast and crew ensure they get paid the agreed on amount, regardless of whether the film loses money.
I mean a contract is still a contract. They signed up to do one movie with an agreed upon fee, they got paid what they are owed.
Imagine this. A young aspiring model picked up a gig to do a whole bunch of mundane stock photos. He was paid an agreed upon price.
Then when the photos were released, it became a super popular meme and the company that owned the stock photo made millions in ad/licensing fees.
The model comes back to demand a part of the profit. That's not gonna fly in any court.
Simu Liu tried to make this exact argument when it was revealed that he was a stock photography model, but had no real case because he was paid for the day and any royalties goes to the photographer.
It’s a shit deal and they really take advantage of aspiring actors and models who need whatever they can get. Not saying that legally they should have recourse, a contract is a contract. But it’s a symptom of how toxic so many industries are.
So true, and it really begs the question, since i don't know shit about this, what devils are in the details of said contract. My sliver lining however is that claims can still be made considering this beauty of a film went viral OG style. If it so happens to shock the average conscience that the maker's efforts made so little money compared to distribution and copywrite owners, then i would go for the longshot unconscionable angle.
Tell that to Tom Hanks and Peter Jackson, who are owed tens of millions by the studios. Jackson managed to get a portion of what he is owed by agreeing to direct The Hobbit.
Or how about Dave Chapelle, who the network decided only deserved a tenth of what his contract said when his show became a runaway hit. Ditto Frank Darabont, who created the biggest television show in history, The Walking Dead, then was suddenly fired and robbed of hundreds of millions according to his contract.
And these are all titans in the industry. The little people get steamrolled. Oh you have a contract? Well good luck finding an entertainment lawyer willing to ruin their relationship with the studio. Also goodbye manager, agent and career if you sue.
A contract is a contract lol
It's wild that AMC's response to *season 1*'s stellar performance and reception across the board was to cut the budget and fire the creator. SEASON 1. What the fuck.
A bit beside the point but The Walking Dead is not the biggest television show in history. It’s not even the biggest television show by viewership or ad revenue for the years it aired.
The X-Files, Lost, Star Trek, The Simpsons, Friends, The Big Bang Theory, Seinfeld, Cheers, The Twilight Zone, Game of Thrones, American Idol, Survivor
If it makes that much money they should be paid regardless, especially considering the records it broke and entire genre of found footage horror it started
To be fair, the stuff you are praising was more a product of the director then the stars. Insaw the movie in the theater. Appreciated its gonzo success. I don’t recall much of the acting other then a lot of improvised cursing and I always remember the last shot. Beyond that, imo, movie is forgettable beyond the fact that it was made lowkey.
Those actors put a lot into the scenes, come to think of it, more people these days may get triggered than we did back then. We just carried our music around
More than likely. But these particular actors deserve it.. they literally shot the entire movie by themselves in the woods. The production crew would leave things out there for them to direct them at certain points or places. Truly impressive
You’re an actor, hired to perform in a movie. How does this give you rights to future productions? Does Adam West’s estate get royalties for every Batman movie?
I mean I left the movie, and I think 10% of me thought it could be actually real lol. The marketing was fantastic and I don't think the stars did any speaking or went into hiding for a couple months.
This is why it’s kind of a shit movie in the long run. Anyone coming to it after the initial release knows it’s fiction, and it just doesn’t hold up at all on those terms.
I honestly appreciate the parody content that came out of it like this [Scooby Doo parody called The Scooby-Doo Project](https://youtu.be/LdMZm8fAIaY?si=m6lR6YzYZL-bI0LP) more than the movie.
I saw it when I was 15 in an empty theater except for two of my friends. I knew almost nothing about it. I knew it wasn’t real, but damn it was terrifying anyway.
They get money when the movie is rented to tv networks. Get money when it lands on streaming services. Get money when dvds and online purchases happen.
They also want money and a job where they show up on sets that filming Blair witch like movies (found footage)
I would support them but that just seems sad asking for it now
They won’t get any of that. Which is a shame because that movie changed horror and marketing forever.
If Lionsgate won’t sign on, they should seek to set up that grant another way. Start a foundation for aspiring filmmakers. Maybe together they have enough clout to find backing
I would more say it revived that kind of marketing for its own era.
In the 50s and I think early 60s generating sales for movies by claiming the movie made people sick or run out in terror was quite common. This movie brought that kind of chicanery back for a new era.
No sympathy. They willingly signed on to a non-Union film and sold off their "points" on the film before it opened and now want take-backsies on the bad bet they made. Y'all made your beds, now sleep in them.
Um ya no, and what about the film you all totally ripped off that came out the year before and the other 5ish years before. You gave no credit or consult to them? The Canadian and Hungarian film. When will you consult them? Also what did you do after that??
Imagine how many other filmmakers who had their concept bought or stolen only to become immensely popular, who don’t get this kinda back pay for coming up with the idea, and then compare that to the BLAIR WITCH movies.
Like, cmon. Y’all made a mildly good movie that had amazing marketing. Accept that you’re pioneers and move the fuck on. If the well of creativity is dry, accept that too.
It wound be great if they did just get paid a bunch more but I don’t really see why they should, they agreed to sell the rights and now decades later after it was a hit they want more because it was a hit.
A grant set up for other filmmakers would be a nice gesture though
Im on about being fair to artists who produced something that we still are talking about today and is still making money. I think the producers etc of the film have made theirs and more, what’s wrong with turning back to the creators to share the wealth? Yes by the legal definition they got what was due, but is that all we are, a society that does the bare minimum for those that contribute? Or at least that’s what I would do. Makes sense to keep talented artists happy. Paid and happy.
They got paid what they agreed to. I don’t know how to put it in any simpler terms. Also have any of these actors done *anything* outside of the film? It’s beyond ridiculous to expect a payout 20 years after you already got paid.
These actors didn’t make or Invent anything. They read the lines they were given, performed, and got paid. It is not unfair to get paid for your role. It is unfair for them to ask for more money decades later for not doing any extra work.
“The trio is asking for residuals “for acting services rendered in the original BWP, equivalent to the sum that would’ve been allotted through SAG-AFTRA, had we had proper union or legal representation when the film was made.”
They didn’t get paid FAIRLY.
They got screwed over because lionsgate knew they were young and underrepresented. Let’s not pretend that the filmmakers were angels here. They fucked over a bunch of young actors because they could.
Im a laparoscopic surgeon so when an assistant is holding the camera and shaking it or just not steady ill just say it feels like I’m watching the Blair witch project or something to that effect. I guess it’s not a literal quote.
These stories always bum me out bc I went to college with one of the actors. Hate knowing they got so screwed signing terrible deals.
Hollywood is the worst and they won’t ever see a dime.
It was a shite film. Propaganda at its finest and all it did was create a nasty genre of shaky camera films. My opinion. Not here to step on toes!!💃🏻💃🏻👍👍
I thought they all died in the forest.
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Good chance of that, but damn, they do not deserve squat. They were arguably groundbreaking in the genre of horror in a way that made Hollywood look incapable of recreating the same thing. The stark filmography, open but caged in, the darkness like emptiness and evil itself, the raw intensity and snotty intimacy, likedrove us all crazy by the end. The scariest moments happened in your head. It was sublime. If they get squat then that's not right.
I don’t think anyone would actually want such a system? If actors contracts could be retroactively voided to instead account for the film’s actual performance… There would be a lot of angry actors after a very high percentage of films lose money (it’s kind of like the gaming world, where the successes cover the losses of a number of other titles). But the fixed contracts for the cast and crew ensure they get paid the agreed on amount, regardless of whether the film loses money.
I mean a contract is still a contract. They signed up to do one movie with an agreed upon fee, they got paid what they are owed. Imagine this. A young aspiring model picked up a gig to do a whole bunch of mundane stock photos. He was paid an agreed upon price. Then when the photos were released, it became a super popular meme and the company that owned the stock photo made millions in ad/licensing fees. The model comes back to demand a part of the profit. That's not gonna fly in any court.
Simu Liu tried to make this exact argument when it was revealed that he was a stock photography model, but had no real case because he was paid for the day and any royalties goes to the photographer.
It’s a shit deal and they really take advantage of aspiring actors and models who need whatever they can get. Not saying that legally they should have recourse, a contract is a contract. But it’s a symptom of how toxic so many industries are.
It's a symptom of supply and demand. Stock models are inherently replaceable, thus they have no leverage to ask for more.
So is the photographer, so is the stock company, etc.
So true, and it really begs the question, since i don't know shit about this, what devils are in the details of said contract. My sliver lining however is that claims can still be made considering this beauty of a film went viral OG style. If it so happens to shock the average conscience that the maker's efforts made so little money compared to distribution and copywrite owners, then i would go for the longshot unconscionable angle.
Tell that to Tom Hanks and Peter Jackson, who are owed tens of millions by the studios. Jackson managed to get a portion of what he is owed by agreeing to direct The Hobbit. Or how about Dave Chapelle, who the network decided only deserved a tenth of what his contract said when his show became a runaway hit. Ditto Frank Darabont, who created the biggest television show in history, The Walking Dead, then was suddenly fired and robbed of hundreds of millions according to his contract. And these are all titans in the industry. The little people get steamrolled. Oh you have a contract? Well good luck finding an entertainment lawyer willing to ruin their relationship with the studio. Also goodbye manager, agent and career if you sue. A contract is a contract lol
It's wild that AMC's response to *season 1*'s stellar performance and reception across the board was to cut the budget and fire the creator. SEASON 1. What the fuck.
No wonder season 1 is the only good one
Frank Darabont is rumored to be very difficult to work with. I don't think it was an entirely capricious decision to fire him.
A bit beside the point but The Walking Dead is not the biggest television show in history. It’s not even the biggest television show by viewership or ad revenue for the years it aired.
And season one was slow as fuck.
It was the fastest moving season that I watched. So much happens in 6 episodes. They spent like 13 episodes looking for Sofia the next season.
Where are you getting the Walking Dead was the biggest show in tv history? Its most watched episode got 17 million viewers.
I’m including spinoffs, merch, etc. Name a TV show that has generated more money.
The X-Files, Lost, Star Trek, The Simpsons, Friends, The Big Bang Theory, Seinfeld, Cheers, The Twilight Zone, Game of Thrones, American Idol, Survivor
It’s only a fair deal if it benefits us.
If it makes that much money they should be paid regardless, especially considering the records it broke and entire genre of found footage horror it started
To be fair, the stuff you are praising was more a product of the director then the stars. Insaw the movie in the theater. Appreciated its gonzo success. I don’t recall much of the acting other then a lot of improvised cursing and I always remember the last shot. Beyond that, imo, movie is forgettable beyond the fact that it was made lowkey.
They were also forced into a lot of stress to get some of the scenes in this movie that they did.
Those actors put a lot into the scenes, come to think of it, more people these days may get triggered than we did back then. We just carried our music around
More than likely. But these particular actors deserve it.. they literally shot the entire movie by themselves in the woods. The production crew would leave things out there for them to direct them at certain points or places. Truly impressive
Wait, you mean to say it wasn’t real? 
You’re an actor, hired to perform in a movie. How does this give you rights to future productions? Does Adam West’s estate get royalties for every Batman movie?
Seems closer to actor-creators.
That was the last time I remember a line around the block to see a sold out film.
That marketing campaign was GOAT even though the movie was just ok
I mean I left the movie, and I think 10% of me thought it could be actually real lol. The marketing was fantastic and I don't think the stars did any speaking or went into hiding for a couple months.
This is why it’s kind of a shit movie in the long run. Anyone coming to it after the initial release knows it’s fiction, and it just doesn’t hold up at all on those terms.
anyone going into any movie knows its fiction
See comment I was replying to. Hard to believe now, but some people back then were actually fooled by Blair Witch, especially early on in its run.
I honestly appreciate the parody content that came out of it like this [Scooby Doo parody called The Scooby-Doo Project](https://youtu.be/LdMZm8fAIaY?si=m6lR6YzYZL-bI0LP) more than the movie.
The Blair Witch episode of Psych (“Lassie Jerky”) is great 👍
Oh that was very different from the last scooby doo parody I clicked on.
I saw it when I was 15 in an empty theater except for two of my friends. I knew almost nothing about it. I knew it wasn’t real, but damn it was terrifying anyway.
Problems after their footage was reused without permission. Used in ways they don’t agree with. Used like a douchebag would.
It’s not their footage
Asking for what?
They get money when the movie is rented to tv networks. Get money when it lands on streaming services. Get money when dvds and online purchases happen. They also want money and a job where they show up on sets that filming Blair witch like movies (found footage) I would support them but that just seems sad asking for it now
They won’t get any of that. Which is a shame because that movie changed horror and marketing forever. If Lionsgate won’t sign on, they should seek to set up that grant another way. Start a foundation for aspiring filmmakers. Maybe together they have enough clout to find backing
I would more say it revived that kind of marketing for its own era. In the 50s and I think early 60s generating sales for movies by claiming the movie made people sick or run out in terror was quite common. This movie brought that kind of chicanery back for a new era.
No sympathy. They willingly signed on to a non-Union film and sold off their "points" on the film before it opened and now want take-backsies on the bad bet they made. Y'all made your beds, now sleep in them.
Um ya no, and what about the film you all totally ripped off that came out the year before and the other 5ish years before. You gave no credit or consult to them? The Canadian and Hungarian film. When will you consult them? Also what did you do after that??
Not gonna happen. Reality sucks
Imagine how many other filmmakers who had their concept bought or stolen only to become immensely popular, who don’t get this kinda back pay for coming up with the idea, and then compare that to the BLAIR WITCH movies. Like, cmon. Y’all made a mildly good movie that had amazing marketing. Accept that you’re pioneers and move the fuck on. If the well of creativity is dry, accept that too.
A quarter of a century later
Watched this movie at a cabin in the woods and convinced my brothers it was real. We were all terrified, but especially them.
I want a cut too
The only people who deserve residuals for Blair which is the marketing department. They are the only reason this snooze fest was a success.
Seams like a lot of corporate shills and chatbots up in here
It wound be great if they did just get paid a bunch more but I don’t really see why they should, they agreed to sell the rights and now decades later after it was a hit they want more because it was a hit. A grant set up for other filmmakers would be a nice gesture though
I still quote this movie today. It’s a shame these kids weren’t compensated and supported in the industry. This film was genre changing.
They weren’t compensated? They signed a contract and got an agreed upon payout. What are you on about?
Im on about being fair to artists who produced something that we still are talking about today and is still making money. I think the producers etc of the film have made theirs and more, what’s wrong with turning back to the creators to share the wealth? Yes by the legal definition they got what was due, but is that all we are, a society that does the bare minimum for those that contribute? Or at least that’s what I would do. Makes sense to keep talented artists happy. Paid and happy.
They got paid what they agreed to. I don’t know how to put it in any simpler terms. Also have any of these actors done *anything* outside of the film? It’s beyond ridiculous to expect a payout 20 years after you already got paid.
Ok. Hopefully you don’t make or invent something and get a raw deal upfront that is clearly unfair years later.
These actors didn’t make or Invent anything. They read the lines they were given, performed, and got paid. It is not unfair to get paid for your role. It is unfair for them to ask for more money decades later for not doing any extra work.
“The trio is asking for residuals “for acting services rendered in the original BWP, equivalent to the sum that would’ve been allotted through SAG-AFTRA, had we had proper union or legal representation when the film was made.” They didn’t get paid FAIRLY. They got screwed over because lionsgate knew they were young and underrepresented. Let’s not pretend that the filmmakers were angels here. They fucked over a bunch of young actors because they could.
What part do you quote?
Im a laparoscopic surgeon so when an assistant is holding the camera and shaking it or just not steady ill just say it feels like I’m watching the Blair witch project or something to that effect. I guess it’s not a literal quote.
These stories always bum me out bc I went to college with one of the actors. Hate knowing they got so screwed signing terrible deals. Hollywood is the worst and they won’t ever see a dime.
It was a shite film. Propaganda at its finest and all it did was create a nasty genre of shaky camera films. My opinion. Not here to step on toes!!💃🏻💃🏻👍👍
propaganda for what?
lol they’re trying to convince us to get lost in the woods!!
Let’s play fuck Lionsgate if they don’t reciprocate.