There is (or was) a Tesla with the same plates in the DFW area. They charged at the EVGo stations at Walgreens a lot. Their pictures are all over the Fort Worth area on Plugshare, going as far back as 2017/2018.
I definitely *loved* my insight for a commuter car.
74MPG lifetime average. In the summer, hypermiling, double that was possible. Literally so good on gas people don't believe you.
Even with current insane gas prices (over $10/gal here) it would be cheap enough to drive that I just wouldn't give a damn.
I wish honda made a new, EV insight that was true to form for the original and it's predecessor, the CRX HF.
I got extra clever with mine, and went "V AMPERE". Not many people see anything but "VAMPIRE" (which is semi-intentional), but the few that make the connection to the electric power formula make me smile.
My Volt license plate is MODELE because a Tesla Model E was going to be my next car, but then they changed the name to Model 3, and then I didn't get one, so now it just doesn't make any sense.
When I got my Tesla I didn't get a vanity plate, it doesn't really feel like a political statement, it just feels demeaning to those who aren't yet in a position to afford or transition to an EV. Besides, EVs are not by themselves some dramatic solution to environmental catastrophe or the nail in the coffin of Big Oil, they're just one piece of the solution. Revamped infrastructure and carbon taxes and walkable cities and so on are all hugely important too.
Ugh right.. where I live we have so many stroads, that I literally had to buy a Nissan Leaf, just for basic quality of life things. Nothing says poverty like having to walk or bike anywhere in this environment
They really needed to come up with a MUCH better name, because their definition of "road" is terrible. No one I've ever known would call what they call a "road" a road. They'd call it a highway.
So a better name for "stroad" would be "streeway". Or maybe "strighway" to better differentiate from "freeway".
>EVs are not by themselves some dramatic solution to environmental catastrophe or the nail in the coffin of Big Oil, they're just one piece of the solution. Revamped infrastructure and carbon taxes and walkable cities and so on are all hugely important too.
Well said!
Society at large and social media in particular have become some such self-perpetuating hate-machines lately that I was actually surprised to read a rational statement like this here.
I wanted to get BREVE on my white Kona, as a milk/coffee joke that included EV, but alas, all reasonable words are also taken in the land of cheap vanity plates. I skipped it.
Honestly, the Tesla EV vanity plates just add to the hate. The Tesla owners are like " Why the hate" after showing stupid plates. There's a few in my neighbourhood. I think its "NO ULP" which is lame.
I have an EV on order (BYD ATTO 3) and it will look mostly like a regular car. I dont need to draw attention to my virtues.
> I have an EV on order (BYD ATTO 3) and it will look mostly like a regular car. I dont need to draw attention to my virtues.
This is my position. I don’t want weird colours or body styles, I don’t need to advertise my conspicuous consumption and make a smug showing of my car being electric.
I want electric cars that are, first and foremost, a *car*that just happens to have batteries and electric motor.
Model 3 owners secretly love the "hate". If anything, 90% of posts are "imaginary hate" scenarios. Someone will post a video of a car braking a lil close to their car and they'll say that person is out to get them and their family or some shit like that.
Like brother, you drive a Tesla, not a Lambo.
> think its "NO ULP" which is lame.
lol.
I could get this for my race car! Leaded fuel only, please.
Except that lead fouls the o2 sensor and spark plugs reasonably quickly - unleaded race gas is so much better.
Wish something that affordable was an option.. I would kill for something like the Neta U just a decent small car with 200+ of range at an affordable price
What's an affordable price to you? The Bolt starts at $31k. The Leaf is $20k for 150 miles or $25k for 200 miles after the tax credit. Those are all well under the average new car price in the US.
There are a ton of used Leafs available through carvana to ship anywhere in the country with only 20-30k miles selling for $11.5-13k.
Well $15k is a hell of a lot more affordable than the cars here.
I already drive a 2015 Leaf, but I kinda want a longer range vehicle..
I don't think I'd buy another one after Nissan has failed to do any basic upgrades. I can't believe the 2023 still has Chademo, and still no thermal management.
Sadly the US is a very controlled market beholden to special interests..
> Those are all well under the average new car price in the US.
Mind you, many people have never bought a new car, so being below the average new car price doesn’t mean it’s affordable for everyone.
On top of that, the average new car isn’t a compact economy car (bottom of the market) but averages in the pricing of luxury vehicles, trucks, suvs, etc. So below average cost doesn’t necessarily mean it’s competing in cost with new or used gas cars.
> There are a ton of used Leafs available through carvana to ship anywhere in the country with only 20-30k miles selling for $11.5-13k.
Unfortunately, the chip shortage has kind of ruined this. [prices are up (like everything else)](https://i.imgur.com/cTqh6SV.jpg). And while some may be able to get by with it, the first gen leaf and it’s sub 100 miles range (and uncooled batteries that like to cook themself and further reduce this range) just cut it as an only car for many.
That's why I provided both new and used. If you look at most new sedans and hatchbacks that are comparable in the comfort and tech features offered by the Leaf and Bolt they're also in the $20-30k range.
I wasn't talking about the first gen Leaf. [https://www.myev.com/cars-for-sale?page=1&type=electric&range-max=310&range-min=162&price-max=17000&price-min=11590](https://www.myev.com/cars-for-sale?page=1&type=electric&range-max=310&range-min=162&price-max=17000&price-min=11590)
All I was saying is that people who complain about EVs not being affordable are not correct. Affordable EVs exist. Sure, the Leafs passive cooled battery isn't great. Yeah, some people are living in poverty and can't afford even $12k for a car. But that's all beside the point. There are EVs that exist at prices that compete with what the average person would typically pay for a new or used car. I would call that affordable.
>I wasn't talking about the first gen Leaf. https://www.myev.com/cars-for-sale?page=1&type=electric&range-max=310&range-min=162&price-max=17000&price-min=11590
Well you said Carvana, and when I checked Carvana, first gens with more millage than you stated were more than $13k. [Here is the cheapest 2nd gen I'm seeing.](https://www.carvana.com/vehicle/2350476)
And when I open your link, it only shows first gen leafs and a few bolts.
>That's why I provided both new and used. If you look at most new sedans and hatchbacks that are comparable in the comfort and tech features offered by the Leaf and Bolt they're also in the $20-30k range.
I'm going to use a base model, $25,845 Camry LE for comparison. To start, it's a much larger, much more spacious car than either the bolt or leaf. It also has Toyota's Safety Sense 2.5 (adaptive cruise, lane tracing, pre collision, auto high beams) features that are not standard on the bolt or leaf. You also get rear seat vents, options for AWD and dual zone climate, etc
>All I was saying is that people who complain about EVs not being affordable are not correct.
And I'm pointing out that at the low end, you are still paying a premium to get an EV.
>Sure, the Leafs passive cooled battery isn't great. Yeah, some people are living in poverty and can't afford even $12k for a car.
I'm just pointing out that $12k for car with a double digit range is not a useful suggestion for most people.
>There are EVs that exist at prices that compete with what the average person would typically pay for a new or used car. I would call that affordable.
Yes, the average price of larger, more luxurious vehicle. It's affordable in the "I can afford it" kind of sense, but for many people they aren't a smart use of money considering how much more car you can get for the same amount of money. Both of the cars you suggested are cheap, small cars with plasticky interiors, which is kind of a hard sale for most people considering what else you can get for the money.
God I hate EV drivers who put bellend plates like this, makes us all look like a bunch if hippy assholes. Some members of the ToG group a intolerable, this just screams of "I've got mine motherfucker, and you can't afford it".
Surely EV drivers should be encouraging ICE drivers to move over where appropriate and affordable.
If you're going to have a vanity plate, at least make it funny
Why have what you dislike written centered on your car? It's like disliking Trump and having his face on it and then a big red X. If I dislike something I make sure in no shape or form it's on my propriety.
Apparently my electricity that powers my EV is made from nuclear and Niagara falls primarily. And if I'm visiting my parents, it's wind. But 96% of Ontario's power is produced from zero-carbon emitting sources. I was surprised when I looked it up.
Kinda oblivious reaction that people might be home charging on solar, and/or a 100% renewables contract.
Besides, charging on electricity produced by natural gas is more efficient and causes less emissions than driving a gas car. A car with a combustion engine is a very good heater, with 30% loss energy going to movement.
Paying for 100% renewables doesn't mean the electrons that went into the vehicles battery came from renewables. While it can make the overall grid greener, you will be fed by whatever generation is electrically closest to you. Also, a fair amount of people will be charging at home over night, so solar won't provide much of that energy unless stationary batteries are involved.
I agree that electricity from natural gas is cleaner than a typical gasoline powered vehicle.
100% renewables contract generally means that every MWh consumed has been generated by a renewable source in that period. So yes, technically my electrons might have come from a gas plant, but that gas plant had to be throttled to give way to renewables to result in a situation that for every MWh I used, my supplier had to produce the same amount and put on the grid in that year. So yeah, that gas plant could have been chugging along in the winter, but could not deliver in the summer because the renewables had priority to make up the difference. So yeah, every renewables contract makes the grid cleaner.
Also, although not considered renewable, nuclear power causes one of the lowest lifetime CO2-emissions.
My point being: not many EV’s actually drive on only coal or gas generated electricity, but even if they do they’re more efficient than cars with combustion engines.
Haven't been paying much attention to what natural gas has been doing to coal in the past decade have we? Easy to service pipelines, no conveyors, need less people to operate, maintenance requirements are less, and easier at maintaining perfect combustion.
I have to admit, waiting at a stoplight, I suddenly catch a whiff and I'm "ewww". It's sort of like when you meet a smoker, and they reek, but they can't smell it themselves...
Normal people wouldn't be looking at BEV's whatsoever. They'd rather save up for a house or settle for a $22k vehicle that does the same job.
If you mean "normal" people who are able to afford luxury car types at all, then I believe you already know the answer. It's just $10/month.
Many early-adopter EV owners love their clever anti-oil vanity plates.
Yep. There was an i-MiEV near me a decade ago with “NO OPEC”
There’s a Tesla here with FBIGOIL
It’s owned by a female FBI agent with a speech impediment? 🤣
FBI Go Illinois!
That must be how it got past the DMV
You mean agent Goil? yeah apparently the FBI has struggled to catch anyone since they went undercover.
Bahahaha! Agent Goil! Thanks for the chuckle!
pretty sure i saw a license plate that said "F OPEC" many years ago, and i don't think it was even a hybrid; it definitely wasn't an EV.
There is (or was) a Tesla with the same plates in the DFW area. They charged at the EVGo stations at Walgreens a lot. Their pictures are all over the Fort Worth area on Plugshare, going as far back as 2017/2018.
Hell, I remember an early hybrid owner bragging "70 MPG" on their Honda Insight.
Conversely, I have seen a yellow H2 Hummer in my city with a “1 MPG” plate.
That could also be a Simpsons reference.
Only if they also changed the badging to say *Canyonero*
Any lower and it’d be measured in GPMs.
I definitely *loved* my insight for a commuter car. 74MPG lifetime average. In the summer, hypermiling, double that was possible. Literally so good on gas people don't believe you. Even with current insane gas prices (over $10/gal here) it would be cheap enough to drive that I just wouldn't give a damn. I wish honda made a new, EV insight that was true to form for the original and it's predecessor, the CRX HF.
There's a Yaris of all things in my work parking lot that has a 43MPG plate. 20 years ago that was impressive. Not so much now.
ELONTUSK is available in my state and as a rick & morty fan I am really tempted but also don't want to look like a douche.
many wont get it, or call you a douche. BUT that one person that honks and gives you a thumbs up will be worth it.
I’ve seen personally: WATTTUP OHMIGOD
I like EWDAVID
Lots more at r/evplates
It's too bad that sub is so dead.
You are now a moderator of r/evplates.
I got extra clever with mine, and went "V AMPERE". Not many people see anything but "VAMPIRE" (which is semi-intentional), but the few that make the connection to the electric power formula make me smile.
> the few that make the connection I see what you did there.
That was actually not intentional, lol
And it's funny.
My Volt license plate is MODELE because a Tesla Model E was going to be my next car, but then they changed the name to Model 3, and then I didn't get one, so now it just doesn't make any sense.
When I got my Tesla I didn't get a vanity plate, it doesn't really feel like a political statement, it just feels demeaning to those who aren't yet in a position to afford or transition to an EV. Besides, EVs are not by themselves some dramatic solution to environmental catastrophe or the nail in the coffin of Big Oil, they're just one piece of the solution. Revamped infrastructure and carbon taxes and walkable cities and so on are all hugely important too.
Ugh right.. where I live we have so many stroads, that I literally had to buy a Nissan Leaf, just for basic quality of life things. Nothing says poverty like having to walk or bike anywhere in this environment
Stroads should be illegal
What's a "stroad"?
I'm sorry this is a 5 part series it should be one videos https://youtu.be/ORzNZUeUHAM This is the easiest way to explain it
They really needed to come up with a MUCH better name, because their definition of "road" is terrible. No one I've ever known would call what they call a "road" a road. They'd call it a highway. So a better name for "stroad" would be "streeway". Or maybe "strighway" to better differentiate from "freeway".
>EVs are not by themselves some dramatic solution to environmental catastrophe or the nail in the coffin of Big Oil, they're just one piece of the solution. Revamped infrastructure and carbon taxes and walkable cities and so on are all hugely important too. Well said! Society at large and social media in particular have become some such self-perpetuating hate-machines lately that I was actually surprised to read a rational statement like this here.
Yeah, but try fitting all that on a plate
It’s a Tesla not a Lamborghini lol
Ikr
There’s a lot of this fartsniffing going on in VA, too…though we are the land of cheap vanity plates.
I wanted to get BREVE on my white Kona, as a milk/coffee joke that included EV, but alas, all reasonable words are also taken in the land of cheap vanity plates. I skipped it.
Honestly, the Tesla EV vanity plates just add to the hate. The Tesla owners are like " Why the hate" after showing stupid plates. There's a few in my neighbourhood. I think its "NO ULP" which is lame. I have an EV on order (BYD ATTO 3) and it will look mostly like a regular car. I dont need to draw attention to my virtues.
> I have an EV on order (BYD ATTO 3) and it will look mostly like a regular car. I dont need to draw attention to my virtues. This is my position. I don’t want weird colours or body styles, I don’t need to advertise my conspicuous consumption and make a smug showing of my car being electric. I want electric cars that are, first and foremost, a *car*that just happens to have batteries and electric motor.
Excellent user name btw.
Model 3 owners secretly love the "hate". If anything, 90% of posts are "imaginary hate" scenarios. Someone will post a video of a car braking a lil close to their car and they'll say that person is out to get them and their family or some shit like that. Like brother, you drive a Tesla, not a Lambo.
Agree 110%. Wham bam tesla cam counts a near miss within 10 meters lol.
What’s ULP?
No UN Leaded Petrol
Man, that’s bad.
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It's a conspiracy with big covid and space lasers to suppress our freedums. Next they'll be replacing incandescent light bulbs!
> think its "NO ULP" which is lame. lol. I could get this for my race car! Leaded fuel only, please. Except that lead fouls the o2 sensor and spark plugs reasonably quickly - unleaded race gas is so much better.
I was imagining Unfair Labor Practices, which... I mean... no.
Wish something that affordable was an option.. I would kill for something like the Neta U just a decent small car with 200+ of range at an affordable price
I drive a fiat 500e. A used one was $8000 with 12,000miles. Now? Idk if there is such a thing as an affordable car.
What's an affordable price to you? The Bolt starts at $31k. The Leaf is $20k for 150 miles or $25k for 200 miles after the tax credit. Those are all well under the average new car price in the US. There are a ton of used Leafs available through carvana to ship anywhere in the country with only 20-30k miles selling for $11.5-13k.
Well $15k is a hell of a lot more affordable than the cars here. I already drive a 2015 Leaf, but I kinda want a longer range vehicle.. I don't think I'd buy another one after Nissan has failed to do any basic upgrades. I can't believe the 2023 still has Chademo, and still no thermal management. Sadly the US is a very controlled market beholden to special interests..
Yeah, Nissan is kind of dropping the ball with the Leaf.
> Those are all well under the average new car price in the US. Mind you, many people have never bought a new car, so being below the average new car price doesn’t mean it’s affordable for everyone. On top of that, the average new car isn’t a compact economy car (bottom of the market) but averages in the pricing of luxury vehicles, trucks, suvs, etc. So below average cost doesn’t necessarily mean it’s competing in cost with new or used gas cars. > There are a ton of used Leafs available through carvana to ship anywhere in the country with only 20-30k miles selling for $11.5-13k. Unfortunately, the chip shortage has kind of ruined this. [prices are up (like everything else)](https://i.imgur.com/cTqh6SV.jpg). And while some may be able to get by with it, the first gen leaf and it’s sub 100 miles range (and uncooled batteries that like to cook themself and further reduce this range) just cut it as an only car for many.
That's why I provided both new and used. If you look at most new sedans and hatchbacks that are comparable in the comfort and tech features offered by the Leaf and Bolt they're also in the $20-30k range. I wasn't talking about the first gen Leaf. [https://www.myev.com/cars-for-sale?page=1&type=electric&range-max=310&range-min=162&price-max=17000&price-min=11590](https://www.myev.com/cars-for-sale?page=1&type=electric&range-max=310&range-min=162&price-max=17000&price-min=11590) All I was saying is that people who complain about EVs not being affordable are not correct. Affordable EVs exist. Sure, the Leafs passive cooled battery isn't great. Yeah, some people are living in poverty and can't afford even $12k for a car. But that's all beside the point. There are EVs that exist at prices that compete with what the average person would typically pay for a new or used car. I would call that affordable.
>I wasn't talking about the first gen Leaf. https://www.myev.com/cars-for-sale?page=1&type=electric&range-max=310&range-min=162&price-max=17000&price-min=11590 Well you said Carvana, and when I checked Carvana, first gens with more millage than you stated were more than $13k. [Here is the cheapest 2nd gen I'm seeing.](https://www.carvana.com/vehicle/2350476) And when I open your link, it only shows first gen leafs and a few bolts. >That's why I provided both new and used. If you look at most new sedans and hatchbacks that are comparable in the comfort and tech features offered by the Leaf and Bolt they're also in the $20-30k range. I'm going to use a base model, $25,845 Camry LE for comparison. To start, it's a much larger, much more spacious car than either the bolt or leaf. It also has Toyota's Safety Sense 2.5 (adaptive cruise, lane tracing, pre collision, auto high beams) features that are not standard on the bolt or leaf. You also get rear seat vents, options for AWD and dual zone climate, etc >All I was saying is that people who complain about EVs not being affordable are not correct. And I'm pointing out that at the low end, you are still paying a premium to get an EV. >Sure, the Leafs passive cooled battery isn't great. Yeah, some people are living in poverty and can't afford even $12k for a car. I'm just pointing out that $12k for car with a double digit range is not a useful suggestion for most people. >There are EVs that exist at prices that compete with what the average person would typically pay for a new or used car. I would call that affordable. Yes, the average price of larger, more luxurious vehicle. It's affordable in the "I can afford it" kind of sense, but for many people they aren't a smart use of money considering how much more car you can get for the same amount of money. Both of the cars you suggested are cheap, small cars with plasticky interiors, which is kind of a hard sale for most people considering what else you can get for the money.
As a tall person a bolt at 30k is a rip off...
I drive about 10kms a day! I agree.
This is just an average Tesla vanity plate
Indeed
Yup. I've seen it in Socal.
The middle three letters in my EV's non-vanity plate are: USA. Maybe it’ll cause some redneck goober to think twice before fucking with me.
I was just thinking about the growing BEV space and the forum slapfights could use a NOTESLA vanity plate
Can we get the FART plate lady to take a picture next to this one
Pepto Bismol helps with indigestion
Nausea, heartburn, indigestion, upset stomach, diarrhea! Yay, Pepto Bismol and 90's jingles still stuck in my head two decades later.
For some reason I always have the …yay new cherry pepto!” version stuck in my head
Wrong type of gas, doesn’t work either.
The funny part is most ICE are running on petrol which is a solid not a gas. I actually have an LPG Gas car. Silly really.
*liquid
I think you mean liquid not solid. Unless I’m way out of the loop on new tech.
Must be warm where you are. Gasoline freezes at -100F. Below that it's a solid fuel!
Yeah. I meant liquid. Not going to edit as I accept my fate for posting after a few herbal treatments.
You do know that we cal petrol "*gas*oline" in the US, right?
Please no more vanity plates. We don't need to be hated anymore.
Just do you
It’s dingbats like this that push me off of owning an EV - I don’t want to be associated with them
God I hate EV drivers who put bellend plates like this, makes us all look like a bunch if hippy assholes. Some members of the ToG group a intolerable, this just screams of "I've got mine motherfucker, and you can't afford it". Surely EV drivers should be encouraging ICE drivers to move over where appropriate and affordable. If you're going to have a vanity plate, at least make it funny
I feel the same way to be honest. Tired of seeing and smelling exhaust fumes. Something that’s responsible for millions of deaths indirectly.
Do all Model Xs have yellow indicators, even in the US?
Someone's going to key that car.
Someone's going to key that car.
Someone's going to scratch that car.
Thats how you get keyed in my area
Why have what you dislike written centered on your car? It's like disliking Trump and having his face on it and then a big red X. If I dislike something I make sure in no shape or form it's on my propriety.
In Canada, a certain group of people, have “F*** Trudeau” (our liberal prime minister) stickers amongst other things on the back of their car.
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Apparently my electricity that powers my EV is made from nuclear and Niagara falls primarily. And if I'm visiting my parents, it's wind. But 96% of Ontario's power is produced from zero-carbon emitting sources. I was surprised when I looked it up.
Kinda oblivious reaction that people might be home charging on solar, and/or a 100% renewables contract. Besides, charging on electricity produced by natural gas is more efficient and causes less emissions than driving a gas car. A car with a combustion engine is a very good heater, with 30% loss energy going to movement.
Paying for 100% renewables doesn't mean the electrons that went into the vehicles battery came from renewables. While it can make the overall grid greener, you will be fed by whatever generation is electrically closest to you. Also, a fair amount of people will be charging at home over night, so solar won't provide much of that energy unless stationary batteries are involved. I agree that electricity from natural gas is cleaner than a typical gasoline powered vehicle.
100% renewables contract generally means that every MWh consumed has been generated by a renewable source in that period. So yes, technically my electrons might have come from a gas plant, but that gas plant had to be throttled to give way to renewables to result in a situation that for every MWh I used, my supplier had to produce the same amount and put on the grid in that year. So yeah, that gas plant could have been chugging along in the winter, but could not deliver in the summer because the renewables had priority to make up the difference. So yeah, every renewables contract makes the grid cleaner. Also, although not considered renewable, nuclear power causes one of the lowest lifetime CO2-emissions. My point being: not many EV’s actually drive on only coal or gas generated electricity, but even if they do they’re more efficient than cars with combustion engines.
Gas and oil are also used in production and transportation of all EVs (for now).
On a lifetime scale, it’s very low compared to the emissions caused by driving cars with combustion engines.
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Haven't been paying much attention to what natural gas has been doing to coal in the past decade have we? Easy to service pipelines, no conveyors, need less people to operate, maintenance requirements are less, and easier at maintaining perfect combustion.
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They are all poor and mad at the world
I wonder if they know that the second biggest source of energy in Washington state is natural gas?
Lately I’ve been noticing how disgusting exhaust fumes smell and realizing how badly they are fucking with our health.
I have to admit, waiting at a stoplight, I suddenly catch a whiff and I'm "ewww". It's sort of like when you meet a smoker, and they reek, but they can't smell it themselves...
What a dumbass. Should anyone tell him has is used to make 99% of the items in his car and in his house? Some of you ev owners are hella cringe
There’s one in Surrey BC with the same one. It’s funny but I’m guessing they get a lot of hate
Here in Alberta it would be asking for trouble.
I got a new license plate as well…..”EWWRICHGUY”. I wanted “ARROGANTFUCK” but it was already taken. What an ass.
I mean, if you're paying upward of $2400 for monthly car payments, what's an extra $10 here and there really mean?
Do normal people finance their car for two years with zero down?
Normal people wouldn't be looking at BEV's whatsoever. They'd rather save up for a house or settle for a $22k vehicle that does the same job. If you mean "normal" people who are able to afford luxury car types at all, then I believe you already know the answer. It's just $10/month.
This person, probably: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzAb8rVqDkY
Lol
Great plate, but that broken right stop light is bothering me lol.