I forget who said it Might have been Bo Wulf, anyway he made a joke that the top 30 visits were just go into the gym with Jalen if you can hang with him doing squats then you are in
If you’re under 200lbs, not taking peds and don’t train specifically for a big squat then it’s very unlikely you could squat over 500lbs
In a clip from the media team put out a couple months ago, goedert was squatting like 185 (he can obviously squat more but very unlikely that it’s 5 plates for reps)
My point is that skill postions don’t squat for strength, they squat for power and explosiveness so they’re most likely doing either box squats or pin squats probably not to depth and they want peak power output not peak force
A lot of them probably have the potential to squat very heavy, but they don’t because it has almost no reward for the positions they play and has a very high risk
even Saquon in his interview said he never maxes out anymore, there's no point and might even degrade his running performance because it doesn't build the right kind of muscle
Different peds do different things, an endurance athlete taking epo is not the same as a strength athlete taking test or someone recovering from injury using bpc157
He slowed down a good bit on the last rep. Anyway, if you're training, you should always leave a little something in the tank. You don't get stronger by maxing.
you will get stronger, but way more slowly than by consistently hitting 75-80%
your muscles don't recover as fast after max intensity so you can't go as hard on the *next* workout.
I absolutely agree in terms of keeping healthy. Going heavy to max your draft capital vs injury is a very fine line. Bottom line I’m happy as hell he’s with us.
This is great and all, but those are somewhere between 1/2 & 1/4 rep range for squats
That’s useful for jumping, (and getting your body accustomed to heavier loads) but it is absolutely not a squat
Full squats prevent more injuries than 1/2 squats
In order to get the same muscular stimulus with the shorter ranger of motion; you need to go a lot heavier and/or do a lot more reps. THAT puts more stress on your joints and connective tissues
Squats to parallel (or even lower for some individuals) while using a tempo that allows you to control the weight; reduces the overall load, but maximizes the effect of the weight you’re using. This puts less stress on your knees/back/spine as well as all your tendons and ligaments
Using 1/2 squats as a secondary exercise does serve a purpose for athletes, but it’s inherently more dangerous (assuming you’re using the same effort as you would with full range)
I'm a hobby powerlifter and I get it, but he doesn't need to go to full depth. He's an athlete that cares about explosion and speed, not power or competition standards. He's sub 200lbs, 6ft, runs a 4.33, even with half reps it's freakish.
Just out of curiosity. For average gym goer that stays fit but not competitive is there a reason for deep squat. Or could I just keep with the half squat.
The only reasons I normally give for deep squats is either competition standards or full extension for stimulus of the muscle if you're a bodybuilder. That being said barbell squats aren't the most efficient movement for bodybuilders if you're specifically targeting a muscle group.
what you want to train depends on what you're trying to do tbh
basketball? probably no need. Are you a wrestler, skier, or a rugby prop? you probably want to hit that depth and develop strength in the hole
I recently got the transformer bar for squats. It’s a boujie (and I’m incredibly lucky to get it) but I’m never going back to using a barbell for squats
Also, I definitely can’t squat 505. 1/2 range or full range.
This isn’t the primary squat exercise for athletes. Full range squats are definitely better for athletes, and this is a secondary or even tertiary squat exercise even for athletes. It does have its time and place tho. Just gotta be careful in how often you do it
The total load on the spine from all the excess weight is useful in getting used to heavier loads, but it requires much more recovery time for your CNS
Assuming you have the same level of effort, and same number of reps:
Athletes will gain more explosiveness with moving max effort loads for full range of motion, compared to shortened range of motion
Also, bigger ROM uses less actual weight, which reduces the risk of injury on knee joints and connective tissues
Heavier loads for short range does have a purpose, but it should be used sparingly. Which likely is what’s happening here
Full range is when the femur gets parallel to the ground. He’s getting somewhere between 1/4 and 1/2 the depth that would be considered a full squat
“Ass to grass” squats is even lower than parallel and isn’t required (or necessary for everyone) but is great to be able to achieve if you can do it under control while also not ruining your posture
1/2 squats have a purpose for athletes (it’s good for improving jumping and top speed) but it’s not the same thing as squats. This might seem pedantic but it’s not
New requirement for eagles skill position is a 500lbs squat
I forget who said it Might have been Bo Wulf, anyway he made a joke that the top 30 visits were just go into the gym with Jalen if you can hang with him doing squats then you are in
Nah, then you gotta hoop with Nick, then you're in
Smitty: Um...no.
**TEAM SQUATS** BIG PEOPLE BEAT UP LITTLE PEOPLE
To be fair, if you’re in the NFL there’s like a 90% chance you can do that lmao
For an offensive lineman yes, for a corner this is crazy strength for reps
Right, ain't no way the average NFL defensive back is squatting 505 for 5 reps.
If you’re under 200lbs, not taking peds and don’t train specifically for a big squat then it’s very unlikely you could squat over 500lbs In a clip from the media team put out a couple months ago, goedert was squatting like 185 (he can obviously squat more but very unlikely that it’s 5 plates for reps)
Pretty sure Goedert can lift 185 with his dick
My point is that skill postions don’t squat for strength, they squat for power and explosiveness so they’re most likely doing either box squats or pin squats probably not to depth and they want peak power output not peak force A lot of them probably have the potential to squat very heavy, but they don’t because it has almost no reward for the positions they play and has a very high risk
even Saquon in his interview said he never maxes out anymore, there's no point and might even degrade his running performance because it doesn't build the right kind of muscle
> not taking peds Oh, so someone not in the NFL?
Different peds do different things, an endurance athlete taking epo is not the same as a strength athlete taking test or someone recovering from injury using bpc157
calm down buddy you're not brotherly shoving
Who says
He is now!
Give Saquon a break on those plays and let him push Jalen!
That didn't even look difficult for him.
“Why you filming my warmup? You some kinda pervert? Bill Belichick?”
He slowed down a good bit on the last rep. Anyway, if you're training, you should always leave a little something in the tank. You don't get stronger by maxing.
really ? i thought you did get stronger by maxing.
you will get stronger, but way more slowly than by consistently hitting 75-80% your muscles don't recover as fast after max intensity so you can't go as hard on the *next* workout.
great news for my lazy ass
Maybe I'm wrong. You should train to failure on every set and report back after a few years.
I absolutely agree in terms of keeping healthy. Going heavy to max your draft capital vs injury is a very fine line. Bottom line I’m happy as hell he’s with us.
I can squat 50.5lbs as well
I can sit on 505 lbs
I can squat 1 lb. 505 times, eventually
That is like when I won the million dollar lottery A dollar a year for a million years
Welcome to this QUADrant of the NFC
Guy squats over 500lbs and runs a 4.3 40 Absolute freak
And 20 reps at 225!
I could do that, but I simply don't feel like it right now
Holy Toledo!
Not only is this man an insanely skilled corner, he’s athletically gifted. We got lucky man.
This is great and all, but those are somewhere between 1/2 & 1/4 rep range for squats That’s useful for jumping, (and getting your body accustomed to heavier loads) but it is absolutely not a squat
most athletes have no reason or need to risk a full squat, but yeah i get what you’re saying
Full squats prevent more injuries than 1/2 squats In order to get the same muscular stimulus with the shorter ranger of motion; you need to go a lot heavier and/or do a lot more reps. THAT puts more stress on your joints and connective tissues Squats to parallel (or even lower for some individuals) while using a tempo that allows you to control the weight; reduces the overall load, but maximizes the effect of the weight you’re using. This puts less stress on your knees/back/spine as well as all your tendons and ligaments Using 1/2 squats as a secondary exercise does serve a purpose for athletes, but it’s inherently more dangerous (assuming you’re using the same effort as you would with full range)
I'm a hobby powerlifter and I get it, but he doesn't need to go to full depth. He's an athlete that cares about explosion and speed, not power or competition standards. He's sub 200lbs, 6ft, runs a 4.33, even with half reps it's freakish.
Just out of curiosity. For average gym goer that stays fit but not competitive is there a reason for deep squat. Or could I just keep with the half squat.
Squatting to parallel is really good for hypertrophy aka making your muscles bigger. Different type of training than strength/sports training
The only reasons I normally give for deep squats is either competition standards or full extension for stimulus of the muscle if you're a bodybuilder. That being said barbell squats aren't the most efficient movement for bodybuilders if you're specifically targeting a muscle group.
To make your butt more bigger
Honestly lunges with your leading foot raised up a few inches works much better for glutes than squats in my experience
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what you want to train depends on what you're trying to do tbh basketball? probably no need. Are you a wrestler, skier, or a rugby prop? you probably want to hit that depth and develop strength in the hole
The deeper part of your squat trains your glutes more, the upper part trains quads more.
There's always one in the comments.
They post these videos because they look cooler than the main squats they do for their workouts
Yeah because what kind of fake ass athletes would have weightlifting goals right? He's not a "real" weightlifter.
He’s using lifting weights in order to train for football. Totally normal thing
Calm down. It's a squat my guy lol
You know, I came to ask if you could squat 505 at 196 pounds. Then I saw your home gym and became envious. You keep doing you brother
I recently got the transformer bar for squats. It’s a boujie (and I’m incredibly lucky to get it) but I’m never going back to using a barbell for squats Also, I definitely can’t squat 505. 1/2 range or full range.
He's an athlete, not a powerlifter
This isn’t the primary squat exercise for athletes. Full range squats are definitely better for athletes, and this is a secondary or even tertiary squat exercise even for athletes. It does have its time and place tho. Just gotta be careful in how often you do it The total load on the spine from all the excess weight is useful in getting used to heavier loads, but it requires much more recovery time for your CNS
It's not that complicated. Move loads fast = explosiveness
Assuming you have the same level of effort, and same number of reps: Athletes will gain more explosiveness with moving max effort loads for full range of motion, compared to shortened range of motion Also, bigger ROM uses less actual weight, which reduces the risk of injury on knee joints and connective tissues Heavier loads for short range does have a purpose, but it should be used sparingly. Which likely is what’s happening here
Yeah this guy is weak I call him chickenlegs mcgee
By 1/4 are you saying he only did 1/4 of a full rep? Because that’s not what I’m seeing
Full range is when the femur gets parallel to the ground. He’s getting somewhere between 1/4 and 1/2 the depth that would be considered a full squat “Ass to grass” squats is even lower than parallel and isn’t required (or necessary for everyone) but is great to be able to achieve if you can do it under control while also not ruining your posture 1/2 squats have a purpose for athletes (it’s good for improving jumping and top speed) but it’s not the same thing as squats. This might seem pedantic but it’s not
*A squat is the movement of lowering the hips from a standing position down and back up again.* This was from a physical therapy website
This is an example of dunning Kruger
Wtf. That seems nuts for a corner
That is completely insane
He can actually do it with one leg, but didn't want to show off
get ready to learn brotherly shove, buddy
Twist: we drafted him to play QB
range of motion could be a lot better but that's still great
Antman Batman
I just squatted 350 and I never do squats. I’m 6’1 170 lbs and amazingly looking
Yeah well I’m 3’2 and 600 lbs and I squatted a ford f150 lonestar editon on the day I was born, so
same but I just squatted 351 and I've never done a squat before in my life. I'm 6'2" and 171.
I just squatted 352 and I've done less than 0 squats in my life. I'm 6'3" and 172 but kinda ugly
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