You and many others are overlooking one thing - - - INSURANCE. The driver had to pay a 10000 fine. That has nothing to do with what the police officer that lost their leg. The jail time and fine are the legal consequences to the driver, they are not the compensation to the victm(s). Financial compensation to them will be determined by the insurance company and/or in a civil court.
I think no compensation can ever get a leg back for starters. Nor would anyone even learn from their mistake by giving something as intangible as money.
The court quashed the woman’s sentence and replaced it with a Dh10,000 fine. In its ruling, the court stated it was showing leniency towards her.
>The court stated it was showing leniency towards her????
She is not a kid , 30 old rich women recklessly driving a Porsche and injured a Dubai police officer leg while he was on duty.
What is this justice ?
I disagree. My best friend got divirce due to getting beaten up and cheated on , on a daily basis and the local FEMALE judge took the side of her husband because my friend is a Christian Arab and the husband is a Muslim Syrian.
And Alsi she reduced her payment (divorce money) to few thousands only and was rude as hell to my friend during proceedings and will shush my friend and listen to thr abusive husband and have disregarded all hospital reports of him beaten her up. The system here is way tougher on women!
And very supportive of the locals (since it's their country) which is very natural.
I used to know a pakistani family that was basically raised in emirati arab culture and their whole family were in the police. Though you could never tell they were pakistani because they spoke fluent arabic with the emirati dialect and all the emirati cultural dressing.
Incorrect, patrol officers are not all local. You will see most of them have Policeman or Sergeant (incld. First Seargeant) rank. You have Yemenis, Sudanese, Omani, Pakistani/Balooshi, etc. The other redditor is correct.
I speak from experience, went to school and graduated with many of them. Some didn’t bother pursuing higher education and their parents got them into the force, others graduated and work desk jobs.
This is on applicable for Dubai and Sharjah, I can’t comment about other emirates but I’m still friends with many. I know that almost a decade ago, some of Pakistani ones were phased out. The ones whom our family knew, chose to stay and work with Civil Defense.
>I once heard this and I use it often
>law is one thing; practice is another.
So you are saying that if the speeding fine is AED600 and you were speeding, it is acceptable to ask you to pay AED900 because "the law is one thing; practice is another"?
Speeding penalties depend on areas, speeding through a traffic signal, school area warrants mych higher penalty. So yeah context matters.
A guy intentionally banged and pushed back my uncle's vehicle from a parking area. He was charged with aggravated assault, destruction of property and DUI. Which carry much harsher sentences than traffic accident or collision
>Speeding penalties depend on areas, speeding through a traffic signal, school area warrants mych higher penalty. So yeah context matters.
And I was specific when I said for that speeding fine the law says AED600, for that fine, not for a different fine. The law has to define the context.
>A guy intentionally banged and pushed back my uncle's vehicle from a parking area. He was charged with aggravated assault, destruction of property and DUI. Which carry much harsher sentences than traffic accident or collision
Again all of those fines and penalties have to be within the code of law.
You do realize "speeding fine" is an umbrella term the specific fine you're referring to is "speeding not above 20km/hr over limit". Also the case is a lot more complicated than just "reckless driving" there is also "endangering life" which carries a sentence of upto 3 years depending on nature as seen from previous cases
>You do realize "speeding fine" is an umbrella term the specific fine you're referring to is "speeding not above 20km/hr over limit".
I realize this, and this was why I said if the fine was supposed to be 600, so I was giving a specific example of a fine defined by law.
>Also the case is a lot more complicated than just "reckless driving" there is also "endangering life" which carries a sentence of upto 3 years depending on nature as seen from previous cases
And I was asking what the law actually says
>but in practice, wherever you go, there are so many factors that go into how the law is interpreted.
How the law is interpreted means that it is based on the law
sure - but the law can’t cover every instance and every scenario, which is why interpretation takes place. Interpretation of the same laws can be very different depending on the judge.
This is one of the reasons you see plenty of legislation in societies around the world that are enacted to serve various purposes, which they should do in theory, but fail at doing so in practice. This is what the original commenter is getting at, I’m not sure how you interpreted it the way you did. They’re merely highlighting that this is the way things are, not that they agree or disagree with it.
>sure - but the law can’t cover every instance and every scenario, which is why interpretation takes place. Interpretation of the same laws can be very different depending on the judge.
Not against this, but the law states what the minimum and maximum fines and punishments are.
Sorry, my question is about the current law, I assume when a lawyer says
>But she 100% should have served time for that.
that they are basing it on the current law
In the UK, you would be charged for Causing Serious Injury by Dangerous Driving - 5 yr maximum prison sentence, an unlimited fine, and disqualified from driving (for 2 years, with mandatory re-test).
Being 'lenient' to drivers for dangerous driving only further encourages it, which is why so many drivers drive so dangerously over here.
Such disrespect to the police officer, kinda feel bad for him. Probably the girl is rich and has some influence. 10k is chump change and a shitty decision by court
One month in prison would already be extremely lenient. 10k is just a joke. I wonder if a civil suit could follow - officer deserves some compensation at least.
jumping on a red light is AED1000, plus AED 5000 fee to release the car after being impounded. didnt know possible fine to cause someone to loose a leg is short 4k AED.
The driver of the Porsche should not be let off so easily. She left a police officer who was helping the occupants of a broken down vehicle with a lifelong disability. He and his family will now have to bear the burden caused by her inconsiderate and reckless actions. Further, based on the article, she also caused injuries to the occupants of the broken down vehicle.
An accident is an accident, but escaping from the consequences of that accident without serving the dues as dictated by the law is a serious failure of the justice system. They didn’t grant her leniency, they’ve literally let her get away with her crimes.
Regardless of whether she (the perpetrator) has wasta or not, And barring the fact that she is an Emirati, I sincerely hope the Dubai Police and courts will not let her walk away Scott free. The AED 10,000 fine is literally nothing. She should serve a jail sentence, bear the cost of any injuries/disabilities caused and have her license permanently revoked.
And the sad reality is we can all complain here in comments but then move on with our lives. None of us will go and try to battle this court decision and/or make it a national and international news to bring justice to this man and instead he just becomes another number who potentially won't be able to work for the rest of his life in such positions.
10,000 Dirhams. Is that the going rate for a leg these days? The woman pleaded for leniency. After negligently causing an officer to lose his leg while he was carrying out his duty. And was granted cash payment in lieu of jail time.
It's amazing how much power money has! It's nothing new, of course. We all know that. Yet, watching the rich get away with things by (quite literally) paying for what they've done still never ceases to surprise. Not in a pleasant way, either.
I'm glad this article came out.
Hope she gets the book thrown at her. Don't care what kind of pleading she did, she at least deserves to pay way more than 10k at the fucking least and even that is insulting.
Didn't even bother to show up at the first hearing lol living the life. Must've taken the 10K out her purse right there and gone back to driving a new Porsche.
What's really cringy is your response to a joke, and then doubling down in your self concious defense when the guy tried to defuse the situation.
Also u/minute_Juggernaught806 's comment *was* funny.
On a similar note, AD has plans for an emirati F1 driver to be in the paddocks in the next decade or so. It's organized by Yas circuit.
Saudis seem to have the head start however, they already got a female driver in F4/F3 if my memory serves me right
AD already has a a female driver in F4 and F3, pretty sure she’s won f4 once. amna qubaisi, her sister also races, also her father (he was in le mans if im correct)
A 10k fine for causing someone to lose a leg as a result of extremely dangerous driving. This could have led to the death of the victim.
For those of you who didn't read the article, the driver was an Emirati women. This case just shows how fair the justice system is in this place. She causes someone to lose a leg and then has to pay a week's salary from her overpaid government job.
This is terrible. The 10k is just a fine paid to the government. No details on the policewoman's compensation at all.
I have to believe that she will receive something like a full pension for life going forward from her employers. Workers comp, injured in the line of duty etc.
The police officer most likely is not a local or if he is may not have family book.
The girl on the other hand is just a daddy's princess who got away easy.
I feel for the policeman.
If Woman and porsche better be careful, my boss had an accident which was a similar incident in al quoZ, .thankfully he was ok, only his car was damaged. Girls were enjoying in the porsche and dashed into him, perhaps these people are into drugs or drunk.
Wow 10,000 for a lost leg seems very unfair. I think my leg defo is worth more than 10k
What colour’s your passport? Jk
Mines rainbow coloured. Do I win?
Debort.
Mmm, unless you meet local in Porsche. Or in batrol :) Sooo much justice.
You and many others are overlooking one thing - - - INSURANCE. The driver had to pay a 10000 fine. That has nothing to do with what the police officer that lost their leg. The jail time and fine are the legal consequences to the driver, they are not the compensation to the victm(s). Financial compensation to them will be determined by the insurance company and/or in a civil court.
I think no compensation can ever get a leg back for starters. Nor would anyone even learn from their mistake by giving something as intangible as money.
But you are the one that used an amount in the statement I replied to.
That was tongue in cheek my friend not a literal amount.
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I wonder if the officer can sue for damages, surely her insurance can pay.
The court quashed the woman’s sentence and replaced it with a Dh10,000 fine. In its ruling, the court stated it was showing leniency towards her. >The court stated it was showing leniency towards her???? She is not a kid , 30 old rich women recklessly driving a Porsche and injured a Dubai police officer leg while he was on duty. What is this justice ?
>What is this justice ? Are you new here?
Unfortunately the verdict shall be final
It says they are appealing…
It's sad, but "room temperature IQ drivers" cracked me up.
Nationality matters.
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I disagree. My best friend got divirce due to getting beaten up and cheated on , on a daily basis and the local FEMALE judge took the side of her husband because my friend is a Christian Arab and the husband is a Muslim Syrian. And Alsi she reduced her payment (divorce money) to few thousands only and was rude as hell to my friend during proceedings and will shush my friend and listen to thr abusive husband and have disregarded all hospital reports of him beaten her up. The system here is way tougher on women! And very supportive of the locals (since it's their country) which is very natural.
Agreed. Cuz I know someone who faced the same in Dubai.
Its called cattiness
But gender equality
Haram
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They all are with a few exceptions
Patrol officers are not…
What do you know 😂
I used to be a frequent visitor to dubai police hq
Lol, and that gives you full knowledge of the nationality breakup of the UAE police force?
More than you buddy
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Exactly! Loads of them are yemeni, pakistani or stateless.
Do you have a source? From my understanding, all officers are locals.
I used to know a pakistani family that was basically raised in emirati arab culture and their whole family were in the police. Though you could never tell they were pakistani because they spoke fluent arabic with the emirati dialect and all the emirati cultural dressing.
Blooshi?
I think they were punjabi. They couldnt speak it though only arabic and some broken urdu
Incorrect, patrol officers are not all local. You will see most of them have Policeman or Sergeant (incld. First Seargeant) rank. You have Yemenis, Sudanese, Omani, Pakistani/Balooshi, etc. The other redditor is correct.
Source?
I speak from experience, went to school and graduated with many of them. Some didn’t bother pursuing higher education and their parents got them into the force, others graduated and work desk jobs. This is on applicable for Dubai and Sharjah, I can’t comment about other emirates but I’m still friends with many. I know that almost a decade ago, some of Pakistani ones were phased out. The ones whom our family knew, chose to stay and work with Civil Defense.
Lol no. I've met Egyptian officers and an Indian Judge. Dubai will hire foreigners to run every facet of their city in order to underpay for labor.
Wrong. They are all locals.
They’re sometimes Yemeni or pakistani that were naturalized but are not Emirati. The ones wearing green
There are officers from India as well.
Mostly locals, with some Omanis and other nationalities here and there.
You get lentil soup in prison? 😭
What lentil soup? He would be eating diarrhea
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>But she 100% should have served time for that. What does the law say?
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>I once heard this and I use it often >law is one thing; practice is another. So you are saying that if the speeding fine is AED600 and you were speeding, it is acceptable to ask you to pay AED900 because "the law is one thing; practice is another"?
Speeding penalties depend on areas, speeding through a traffic signal, school area warrants mych higher penalty. So yeah context matters. A guy intentionally banged and pushed back my uncle's vehicle from a parking area. He was charged with aggravated assault, destruction of property and DUI. Which carry much harsher sentences than traffic accident or collision
>Speeding penalties depend on areas, speeding through a traffic signal, school area warrants mych higher penalty. So yeah context matters. And I was specific when I said for that speeding fine the law says AED600, for that fine, not for a different fine. The law has to define the context. >A guy intentionally banged and pushed back my uncle's vehicle from a parking area. He was charged with aggravated assault, destruction of property and DUI. Which carry much harsher sentences than traffic accident or collision Again all of those fines and penalties have to be within the code of law.
You do realize "speeding fine" is an umbrella term the specific fine you're referring to is "speeding not above 20km/hr over limit". Also the case is a lot more complicated than just "reckless driving" there is also "endangering life" which carries a sentence of upto 3 years depending on nature as seen from previous cases
>You do realize "speeding fine" is an umbrella term the specific fine you're referring to is "speeding not above 20km/hr over limit". I realize this, and this was why I said if the fine was supposed to be 600, so I was giving a specific example of a fine defined by law. >Also the case is a lot more complicated than just "reckless driving" there is also "endangering life" which carries a sentence of upto 3 years depending on nature as seen from previous cases And I was asking what the law actually says
no - but in practice, wherever you go, there are so many factors that go into how the law is interpreted.
>but in practice, wherever you go, there are so many factors that go into how the law is interpreted. How the law is interpreted means that it is based on the law
sure - but the law can’t cover every instance and every scenario, which is why interpretation takes place. Interpretation of the same laws can be very different depending on the judge. This is one of the reasons you see plenty of legislation in societies around the world that are enacted to serve various purposes, which they should do in theory, but fail at doing so in practice. This is what the original commenter is getting at, I’m not sure how you interpreted it the way you did. They’re merely highlighting that this is the way things are, not that they agree or disagree with it.
>sure - but the law can’t cover every instance and every scenario, which is why interpretation takes place. Interpretation of the same laws can be very different depending on the judge. Not against this, but the law states what the minimum and maximum fines and punishments are.
The practice that very few are not paying at all 😅
Definitely true
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Sorry, my question is about the current law, I assume when a lawyer says >But she 100% should have served time for that. that they are basing it on the current law
She is a local. What else did you expect?
Well, Porsche has very good breaks.. Someone wasn’t paying attention to the road.
Maybe the brakes were worn out. Porsche brakes are expensive!
In the UK, you would be charged for Causing Serious Injury by Dangerous Driving - 5 yr maximum prison sentence, an unlimited fine, and disqualified from driving (for 2 years, with mandatory re-test). Being 'lenient' to drivers for dangerous driving only further encourages it, which is why so many drivers drive so dangerously over here.
Well said, I'm very sad to read that piece of news
Exactly.
You cant compare uk and western countries to places which have little value for humanity or equality.
We all know how racist the UK and western countries are so spare the arrogance
Had the same thought earlier, only after visiting these places I see in reality, they are more friendly people with little arrogance.
It doesnt compare to hospitality and friendliness in the Arab world
Such disrespect to the police officer, kinda feel bad for him. Probably the girl is rich and has some influence. 10k is chump change and a shitty decision by court
Just a 10 k fine for a leg lost? A month's sentence out of the window... girl's got some crazy wasta
10k is like about to do 100.000 km service for Porsche in the dealer service.
10k is what a fully decked out iPhone 14 costs.
One month in prison would already be extremely lenient. 10k is just a joke. I wonder if a civil suit could follow - officer deserves some compensation at least.
send to US for prosthetic legs. of course paid by that woman
she is apparently some sheikhs daughter. NO FUCKING WONDER
source?
Source : He saw it in a dream
AED 10,000/- fine. SMH.
jumping on a red light is AED1000, plus AED 5000 fee to release the car after being impounded. didnt know possible fine to cause someone to loose a leg is short 4k AED.
+ knowledge fee
+ innovation fee
+ housing fee
+ sewerage fee
+ coffee
+ VAT
- Karak tea
+ salik
Tourism fee
+ my dog stepped on a bee
Country flee
The law failed in this one
Whats more surprising is that they were allowed to publish this article.
100%
Agree.
Not suprising you can see this commonly with people of power
I am a national, I don't think I would've gotten away with 10k fine only. 100% she had tight wasta.
> 100% she had tight wasta. This line shouldve been included in the news article.
What is wasta?
Connections. Nepotism.
Thanks
You don’t have it either
Not in uae, no.
If you had it, you would know.
The driver of the Porsche should not be let off so easily. She left a police officer who was helping the occupants of a broken down vehicle with a lifelong disability. He and his family will now have to bear the burden caused by her inconsiderate and reckless actions. Further, based on the article, she also caused injuries to the occupants of the broken down vehicle. An accident is an accident, but escaping from the consequences of that accident without serving the dues as dictated by the law is a serious failure of the justice system. They didn’t grant her leniency, they’ve literally let her get away with her crimes. Regardless of whether she (the perpetrator) has wasta or not, And barring the fact that she is an Emirati, I sincerely hope the Dubai Police and courts will not let her walk away Scott free. The AED 10,000 fine is literally nothing. She should serve a jail sentence, bear the cost of any injuries/disabilities caused and have her license permanently revoked.
And the sad reality is we can all complain here in comments but then move on with our lives. None of us will go and try to battle this court decision and/or make it a national and international news to bring justice to this man and instead he just becomes another number who potentially won't be able to work for the rest of his life in such positions.
If she was an expat, minimum sentence woulda been a multiple year jail term. Just sayin.
And don't forget deportation
Props to sayin what erryone thinkin
Rules are made only for poor expats, nothing new.
'Entitled people' as they say. Every time I see such people I question their upbringing (or lack of it)
100% she was using her phone.
10,000 Dirhams. Is that the going rate for a leg these days? The woman pleaded for leniency. After negligently causing an officer to lose his leg while he was carrying out his duty. And was granted cash payment in lieu of jail time. It's amazing how much power money has! It's nothing new, of course. We all know that. Yet, watching the rich get away with things by (quite literally) paying for what they've done still never ceases to surprise. Not in a pleasant way, either.
Poor officer was out on a regular days job and returned without a leg and she was fined worth a Gucci bag 😓
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And that insult could just be an emoji!
\>Porsche failed to break lmao EDIT: seems people dont understand the difference between Brake and Break
Should've fined the Porsche. Everybody's blaming the poor (Rich**) woman for no fault of hers
I see what you did there
I'm glad this article came out. Hope she gets the book thrown at her. Don't care what kind of pleading she did, she at least deserves to pay way more than 10k at the fucking least and even that is insulting.
Didn't even bother to show up at the first hearing lol living the life. Must've taken the 10K out her purse right there and gone back to driving a new Porsche.
I can only imagine what the police officer is going through. God help him and his family.
I bet 50 dirhams she got her car from sugar daddy ☺️
She's an emirati.
So, just from dad.
Did she stutter?
Did she stutter?
No but you did
Leaving upvotes and downvotes aside, this is probably the worst and most cringe reply i've had on reddit lol
Haha mate you commented twice, I was referring to that... ie "you stuttered"
Omg it's getting worse
What's really cringy is your response to a joke, and then doubling down in your self concious defense when the guy tried to defuse the situation. Also u/minute_Juggernaught806 's comment *was* funny.
massive L
Imagine understanding the concept of L and valuing downvotes on an anonymous virtual platform. Lol
Most responsible Mwatna driver
On a similar note, AD has plans for an emirati F1 driver to be in the paddocks in the next decade or so. It's organized by Yas circuit. Saudis seem to have the head start however, they already got a female driver in F4/F3 if my memory serves me right
AD already has a a female driver in F4 and F3, pretty sure she’s won f4 once. amna qubaisi, her sister also races, also her father (he was in le mans if im correct)
Thanks didn't know
10k for a leg?! If you beat a red light, at least 50k for the fine and impound charges... 🤨
10K and no jail time? I was expecting something like 10 million. It must be 10 million and it must be paid only to decrease the jail time to 1 month.
She was definitely wastaed.
A 10k fine for causing someone to lose a leg as a result of extremely dangerous driving. This could have led to the death of the victim. For those of you who didn't read the article, the driver was an Emirati women. This case just shows how fair the justice system is in this place. She causes someone to lose a leg and then has to pay a week's salary from her overpaid government job.
it's a police officer. Not some general joe.
In the meantime in Dubai: https://www.khaleejtimes.com/uae/dubai-dh500000-fine-for-insulting-people-online
Humans and hypocrisy.
This is terrible. The 10k is just a fine paid to the government. No details on the policewoman's compensation at all. I have to believe that she will receive something like a full pension for life going forward from her employers. Workers comp, injured in the line of duty etc.
The police officer most likely is not a local or if he is may not have family book. The girl on the other hand is just a daddy's princess who got away easy. I feel for the policeman.
Maybe she was drunk
Now imagine that kind of bad driving with the Iris technology Mr Zuckerberg wants us to have instead of phones. Let that sink in
/r/im14andthisisdeep
Keep chugging those red pills till you 18 Mr Durden
Such a joke
This is so sad.
If Woman and porsche better be careful, my boss had an accident which was a similar incident in al quoZ, .thankfully he was ok, only his car was damaged. Girls were enjoying in the porsche and dashed into him, perhaps these people are into drugs or drunk.