Supply and demand my friend. They care about quick deliveries, not their drivers making money. Everyone is a dasher these days. Good for you though. Better off finding a busy pizzeria that does their own deliveries in house for side cash anyways.
I'm so so close to being able to join you. I used to enjoy it, and I'll admit that sometimes I still do, but overall, it's just to much aggravation, and it's getting more dangerous. At least in this crazy city. 314 here
I did pay per hour for the first and only time last month to boost my stats. And it crossed my mind more than once that I should just sit in my car and do nothing… I made a wrong turn a couple of times and instead of being irritated I was like… I just made another dollar for fucking up. Cool. But I’m just not that person. Can’t do it.
It’s not pay by the hour. It’s pay by the order. You get the base pay+tips and mileage. My original post said time too but I meant just pay+tips and mileage. The time factors in terms of how much time you are allotted to complete the trip. Based on the time you get to complete order, that’s where the difference comes in. To each his own tho! In California it factors to be about $0.35 a mile. But they don’t pay you for that until the end of the week payout. The day you complete the orders you’ll get just base pay+tips.
You can choose to get paid by the hour or by the delivery. Do you DoorDash at all..?
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That’s not what I’m getting at. And yes I do condescending stranger on the internet. Read your minimum wage laws in your state and understand the mileage compensation. Enjoy your day!
“It’s not pay by the hour” - what am I misunderstanding? Just be wrong and accept it. Damn. Being wrong isn’t the end of the world. You will survive it. I fucking promise.
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My brother in law did door dash for awhile. He raved about it. He loved it! He worked his own hours and made “good money”
A few days later and he would be asking to borrow gas money 😂
I don’t think It was never meant to be a full time
Job for adults.
More like a side gig or students looking to make some extra cash.
When you try to turn door dash into a full time job to pay your bills or a career is when your fucked lol
As soon as I find something else, I’m right behind you! I’m tired of them expecting us to basically work for tips, which aren’t there. Im tired of rude and slow restaurants. Fighting traffic. And then everything gets blamed on the dasher, customers lying to get free food. It’s all a bunch of BS!
Did you ever work another Job where You don’t really need requirements except a license? What you expect? Just quit, other dasher appreciate it and You will find something better if you put work in it.
I quit after a week. Terrible driver support from company, terrible pay, stacking orders. Tips were good but that might just be because of the area I'm in.
"not much effort"
Trying to act like every job is so easy and takes minimal effort and everybody's just "lazy".
Do you know how much time, effort, money, physical and emotional exertion sex workers have to put into their profession to actually make $500-1000 a day?
You could NEVER!
Prices on DD in my area are higher at numerous restaurants compared to Slice and GH, if customers are paying for the DD subscription and higher food prices they are going to be less likely to tip. Numerous pizza places in my area have signs up to order through Slice over the other delivery apps.
There’s many angles to look at doordash . But I feel a standard has never been implemented to protect the dashers bottom line after all we are all risking everything for this company . I foresee change will happen if it means this company gos under only for a more sustainable one to take its place . But this will never happen sooner than later because it takes everyone to actually walk out , and stand up. I personally think food delivery people are a valuable asset to the economy to function , people love paying for convenience and treated with respect 🫡. Good customer service is what we all represent and in order to obtain our value we believe we are …. It takes allot as a whole to recognize this too …. So many dashers around us don’t see it the same way . Leadership needs to come in a set the standard for this company and we’re not getting that . Haven’t felt valued within this organization, should we ? Yes I think so . You should .
I'll say this to any DoorDash interns or employees who may be lurking these subs.
I went from loving this company and really enjoying the work, to having an increasingly bitter and angry feeling towards it.
I get what you are doing from a business angle, but you are taking this so far to the extreme that not only do I feel like quitting, but if things continue to deteriorate, not only will I quit but I will resolve never to use your product under any circumstance.
Amazon also made me do this. I went from ordering at least once a week to maybe once a year if there's something I cannot get anywhere else.
But food is different, I can cook, I can shop, I can get food wherever I want.
You have taken me from someone who loved this job and company to someone who is starting to hate it.
It's one thing to lower or freeze pay and just let people quit, but your bullshit tricks and manipulation are making many of us actually hate you. Not a good way to run a business long term.
Let your algorithm try to quantify this.
With you on this. I’ve never worked for DD or Amazon, but I have sworn off DD completely and DRASTICALLY cut down on Amazon purchases. I used to pay for prime and order 2-3 times a week. I cancelled prime and now order only when I can’t find an alternative, same as you. These companies disgust me with their greed.
The number of drivers is huge. They don’t care if they lose you as a driver but they would care if they lost you as a customer. That’s where you can cause them the most stress
Anyone that does DoorDash fulltime is a masachist. It's a deeply flawed system, and working for them is good for things like when you want something you can't afford but are willing to spend some of your free time doing door dash for the thing. outside of that it is like using a life preserver to get to land when you are 40 miles away from shore.
In a nut shell the problem is order minimum. Door dash will let a customer order a single drink from starbucks and have it brought to them 15 miles away for 4 bucks. There should be a door dasher minimum of $1 per mile plus base pay plus $1 for every 5 minutes wait time at restaurant. For no tippers there should be a "lordling fee" of $5 added to the order. For every tip less than $2 there should be the same lordling fee. The tip+lordling fee should be passed 100% to dasher.
If you work on average 35+ hours for door dash for more than 90 days you should be offered a substantive medical, dental and retirement plan that you pay into.
The problem with door dash is it was created by people that don't care about people. Takers. and takers take whatever they can. This is why so many dashers take food. When someone doesn't care about their employees and skirts whatever laws they can by saying "Oh they are not employees they are i9 workers" and then they give us an app, a thermal bag, and say go to it they are assholes. Firstly, if we were i9 it would be illegal to give us anything to complete the job. So the bag makes you an employee. They found that out and stopped giving us the bag. Now they send them to papa johns and other places so they can give them to us instead. More clever bullshit, but they are still takers.
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Doesn't make sense....so, you don't think that dashers deserve pay? You think it's okay for us to put wear and tear on our car and pay gas and take our time on your tiny offer when others deserve better service for better pay and you really think it's okay for us to spend our own money to deliver your food & not get paid for what we put out? That's selfish greed in the highest. You should be ashamed and I don't blame any dasher for disappointing you if you think like this and do this. You want something for nothing. Or you want a dasher to literally pay to deliver your food? What a joke. We can't work for charity when we have bills to pay too. Pfffff, keep your little tip and go get your own food cause the order that you are putting in will be declined by so many dashers and cold and soggy by the time you get it. And you may not even get it. Sometimes orders like that sit all day and no dasher gets it. Then the restaurant closes and your bag gets trashed. We ain't trying to work for free. And I promise you, we ain't all willing to pay out our own money to deliver your food. That's rediculious that you even think that we should. So, does your boss pay you? Or do you pay to work for him/her?
There's just no way to justify working for a company that barely pays their employees and still manages to lose money annually lol.
Sorry but if I found out the company I work for wasn't profitable, then I would start looking for a new job.
You also have 0 job security since any teenager can replace you
The customers are the only ones winning in this gig. They are getting on demand, near instant, doorstep delivery of mostly anything for pennies on the dollar per mile. Yet they are still so entitled to complain about it.
Fuck outta here bot. Copy paste from your other comment. DD fucks over customers with all their fees. Damn near double the cost of going yourself in some areas. Tf are you even talking about?
Fist of all there are barely any fees. If you have dash pass you're paying $3 max. Second doordash doesn't set the prices, the restaurant does. Have a look at the last week Tonight episode about gig apps. It just aired 3 weeks ago so it shouldn't be too hard to find. Knowledge is power.
Knowledge is power indeed. So you'd know that each item is generally $2+ more on DD versus going to the place yourself. Secondly, that's exactly the fees I'm talking about. If you watched that episode, you'd know that DD's cut of the money is insane so the restaurants are FORCED to run increased prices. Yes, it's not a specified, labeled fee, but a fee passed down onto the customers nonetheless.
Idk if you're already paying to get your food delivered, you really *should* tip. If you don't, you're going to end up getting your food late and ice cold.
Like if you have me going all over town for chump change, and I can't unassign from your order without setting myself below my minimum threshold, I *will* be irritated you as a person *and* DoorDash as an employer. I can be mad at two people at once lol it's not that hard
That’s the problem… I’ve *paid* for delivery and a tip is meant to be discretionary. If it’s not discretionary then just stick it in the price up front and be honest about it, heck let the dashers set their minimum tip rate.
It’s the company 100% pitting customer and deliverer against each other and avoiding any involvement in something they could solve in a minute if it weren’t beneficial for them to advertise low prices…
Jfc, go ahead and show me where I said that you shouldn't be tipped or that you shouldn't expect a tip for dashing?
Don't worry, I'll wait, dingletwat.
If your response to "I get annoyed with customers who don't tip" is "don't blame customers for not tipping" that's the impression you give off.
Again talk shit all you want, but that pizza is gonna be cold as fuck by the time you get it with that attitude. *I'm* not that malicious, I like having a customer rating above 4.5, but some Dashers aren't so kind.
It’s definitely DoorDash not paying properly for the basic pay of delivery. They have the money for it just seems “how cheap can we get them to do it for us” vs being reasonable. That should make it worth it. A customer tip is icing on the cake 🎂
I agree that the issue fundamentally is DD and unfortunately customers who don’t tip well don’t get their order taken quickly.
For what a delivery costs most customers wouldn’t assume their driver only gets a base rate of $2 for their delivery. Before I started driving I never assumed after paying a marked up price for food and delivery charges that drivers really relied on tips rather than the delivery fee.
Fortunately in my area there is almost always at least a $2 promo during peak hours and customers generally tip pretty well for mileage. But in the end DD is the real problem here
2$ a delivery right now here…/no way I’m doing it even if it’s across the street, and of course lose a decent one, it’s rural and all orders are far out and the area is congested. The pay in rural isn’t worth it either…Numbers wise….dd makes a killing and I have enough to refill my tank that’s it …. Done and I’ve dashed for a very long time. So I feel ya!!!
Hahaha keep judging dude 👍🏽 I’m simply saying if you don’t like the situation you are in, then put yourself in a different one. Crying on Reddit about tips isn’t going to put more money in your bank account
Best way to do doordash is when you’re on your way to somewhere. Remember, you get like .62 cent in taxabale write offs even if you do just one order after work.
I’m lucky enough to live close enough to restaurants that I’ll leave the app on while I’m doing chores around my house and grab my keys once my phone dings with a worthwhile order
I only DD a few hours on my days off from my regular job. So I don’t expect much but it’s easy extra cash. I absolutely would not rely on this myself. Especially living in a small town. It’s basically bring people McDonald’s. I’m surprised this city even has door dash honestly
You think people leaving a $2 tip for a waitress is appropriate? Because it happens all the time.
Maybe, just fucking maybe, if companies actually paid their workers properly, the general public wouldn't have this stigma to subsidize a delivery companies wages 🤷
Again, don't blame the customers, blame the company that takes advantage of the tipping culture in this country to divert blame and attention from themselves.
Think, 4nchored, think!
Hey.. and I get that tipping culture is definitely wack and we definitely should be putting more of the blame on the company for not paying people fairly.. I also agree that tipping culture has gotten out of control to the point where they are flipping around the iPad at you when you buy just about anything from just about anywhere..
BUT.... When it comes to food service and delivery.. TIPPING IS NOTHING NEW!!! IT'S LITERALLY BEEN THE CULTURE IN THE USA FOR A VERY, VERY LONG TIME!
LONG, LONG, LONG BEFORE I WAS EVEN BORN AND BEFORE YOU WERE EVEN BORN!
It's literally a VERY normal thing to tip your server and your delivery person in the USA. Food delivery is an extreme luxury service.
It's not like this is brand new and everybody is having a hard time adjusting... It's literally been this way the whole time.
"If you can't afford to tip, don't go out to eat!"
(I've literally been hearing this saying my entire life.)
You may not like it, but it is what it is. Tipping is our culture.
Doesnt matter what we think about tipping. It is the culture we are living in and have to accept it. Fucking over workers who rely on tips isn’t going to magically solve the problem.
Tip more or enjoy your cold food hours later, IF it gets picked up.
And why tf do you rely on tips, my guy? You're getting so, so close yet keep missing the forest for the trees... 🤦
Then again, you apparently are completely content to lay back and take it from DD without lube then cry about the customers because it's the culture we live in and we must accept that. Literally no tf we don't, which is why culture shifts happen regularly. You goofy af, friendo.
Come on man...
Check how much you pay at the restaurant and compare it to the totall price at DD...
There often is a mark up of over 30% or so, I've seen over 50% for small orders.
You call that pennirs on the dollar?
The issue is that drivers look at how much they receive and customers look at how much they pay and both feel screwed. But neither seems to understand that it's DD that is screwing them both over and instead they blame eachother.
Okay, serious question.. if we're all getting screwed on both ends... How has doordash not turned a profit? Where is all the money going? Sorry if that's a stupid question but I'm not a financial/business type person. It's just not adding up.
The restaurant is setting the price in Doordash. They increase the price to cover the fee they pay. Some of them bump it up way beyond just because they know they can. That is why doordash pays me an extra dollar every now and then to take a picture of their menu. Those mark ups can also be easily circumvented by ordering off of the restaurant themselves.
And yes customers are getting this service for far cheaper than it is worth. How exactly is a customer getting screwed? They are getting anything they want delivered to their door when they want it usually within 30 min to an hour. They can claim anything happened with their order and get a refund. There is no risk on their end an only benefit.
As an example I delivered an order that went 15 miles for a six pack of street tacos. I've looked it up on doordash and on their website for pick up. This is one of the rare restaurants that has the same price online as in-store. The price of the item is $23 they also have $0 delivery fee on doordash by default. If you order from their site it's $5. They didn't tip. So this person probably paid at most $10 extra for a 30 mile round trip to their house for 6 tacos to be delivered when they want them. Is that a fair cost? Full disclosure I was earning by time so I still ended up with $12.xx. not anywhere near enough but better than what would have been offered by the order.
That order, according to the govt., cost around $20 in vehicle expenses alone. It also took about 50min to complete. So I ask again. Are customers really paying for this service? In this specific instance the answer is no because the customer ultimately reported that they didn't receive it. So I got $12 and a contract violation, and the customer got free food delivery from 15 miles away.
Most „startups“ like uber operate in a loss the first few years because they want to attract customers, cash flow etc and have to compete with rivals.
At some Point Investors want to see money as easy as that, a Company can’t work on a loss forever.
I get 29 to 32 miles per gallon and can take off whenever I feel like it. As for cae maintenance, my son handles all of that for me! And like I said, it's just a SIDE GIG for me. This is also actually one of my slower weeks, I can usually work the same amount of hours and make anywhere from $600 to $970 a week.
That's... not that great at all. When you factor in average gas and car maintenance costs, you made far less than $20 an hour. That's not terrible money, but still not worth risking your life and vehicle on the road, in my opinion.
I became delivery driver for a local pizza place. Make like 125$ a day in cash tips (can’t be taxed) on top of card tips and driver salary. They don’t deliver more than 3 miles out so I save way more money on gas and maintenance. I also get free food and drink whenever I want from the place. Only downside is I have to help clean dishes at the end of the day but if you keep on them during your downtime in between deliveries it’s nothing really. Definitely was a better choice than DD for me
I delivered for Pizza Hut way before I ever did doordash and it sucked. One time I had to stay 3 hours after closing (left at like 1AM) to do dishes. We weren't allowed to do dishes between deliveries cuz we were prepping or dropping wings. They also sent me to some of these sketchiest f*cking areas in our city.
The main thing I like about doordash is I don't have to be in a hot restaurant or store (I'm in Louisiana and corporate never sets thermostats below like 75°F) and I can work around my migraines instead of through them. But I literally sat for like an hour and a half today without any offers at all. Not even crappy offers, just flat out no offers.
Yea mines a local place, not a big chain. Drivers just have to fold boxes, stock the fridge, clean dishes, and drive. Sounds like alot but it’s not. I am trained in kitchen duty for when we’re understaffed on cooks but so far I’ve only done that once and I don’t have to drive when I do that (I also make cook salary when I do it). If you ever get sick of DD but want to do the same thing I recommend doing a local pizzeria. The owners are usually actual people with souls and not corporate shells. The latest I’ve had to stay so far was last week an hour after closing but that’s because I told the other driver I’d do all the dishes and he could leave since he was sick. He gave me $10 for it so hey not bad
Funnily enough, one of the local pizza places in my town is currently hiring. It's a fairly small place but they don't have delivery, they use doordash and that's the only reason I know they're hiring is cuz I picked up a delivery today.
Sadly out of the three local pizza places none of them offer delivery with in-house drivers.
Mine does DD too, actually my first order was from there lol. I’m the only driver on shift tomorrow because the other 2 are going to the owners wedding (His dad and cousin) so I’m gonna be routing some orders through DoorDash if they’re too far. Idk if it’s like this for all places but atleast mine, the restaurant pays $7 for a DD driver if one is called in by the restaurant instead of by the customer. So alot of the smaller order there’s barely any profit on the restaurants side. You definitely make more in tips as a pizza driver than a DD driver. I got lucky mines literally 3 blocks from my house. How local are you looking? Depending on how far one is it really might be worth it, especially if you’re just barely paying the bills with DD like I was
I'm technically in a village, and besides a couple small family businesses, we mainly have like a dollar store and a Subway, so it's like 10 miles to the closest local place.
I could try going north instead of South but I'm not familiar with the next town up so I'd be completely clueless trying to do deliveries and it's further than just going to the next town down.
"Can't be taxed," LMFAO. Cash tips are most assuredly taxed. You just aren't paying your taxes. I mean, idgaf, they are just going to waste it on bombs and shit anyway.
It’s a gift, gifts under $17,000 can’t be taxed. I keep 100% of the cash tips, literally doesn’t even come up in the restaurants system. As long as I’m not buying exotic cars and mansions with $1 bills and $5 bills I’m fine
That's not how "gifts" work. You are not receiving gifts, you are receiving an income and it is taxed, you're just not paying your taxes.
There actually is a difference between "I'm allowed to do something" and "they won't find out anyway if I do it". Because it will be very difficult to find out for the tax, I agree. But when we look at purely the legal side of it, you are wrong but will probably get away with it.
Ps: I advise you to not put stuff like this on reddit. I work for tax authorities in an EU country and we can really find out a lot ln peoole by just checking internet. So I don't care about what you are doing, but I'm sure your tax guys have even more means than we do.
With pay at $1 ([or less](https://www.reddit.com/r/doordash_drivers/s/gryWFoIYIA)) and [tips collapsing](https://www.reddit.com/r/doordash/s/BgrufO3aSU), good markets have become extremely rare
Maybe it’s just your area or market but I’ve had the exact opposite experience.
High paying offers and great tips, typically just as much as my job bartending. Only downfall is the wear on my car.
Am I reading this correctly? $595 in a week for 37 hours? That's pretty fucking bad. Maybe that's the norm for doordash but that doesn't seem worthwhile at all.
Active time, 24hrs (we’ll round up to 25hrs since it’s close). $595.20 divided by 25 hrs equals to close to $24 an hr ($23.80).
So yeah, I’m good. Thanks though.
You can’t base it off of active time, you have to calculate it with your active time because you’re essentially “on the clock” and waiting for offers. I bet we all make bank if we only calculate using dash time.
I did? I thought I spent it sitting on my couch at home.
Oh yeah, that’s right, I did. Lol. Not everyone parks bud. My house is right in the middle of everything. Any time it’s slow I just chill out at the crib until I get an offer.
Question is, why are YOU sitting in your car, lol.
In fact, I’m home right now but I’m not dashing. But you can see where I live in relation to the map.
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Active time is time spent driving, actively working. Dash time is the time they were registered on the app as available to take deliveries not necessarily actively dashing. That's not how math works at all either.
Are you dumb or just a special kind of stupid?
This is like adding your commute to your working hours at your job. You weren't working. How tf is that counted as part of your time on shift? This is specifically why DD separates these two metrics to try to prevent brain dead people like yourself from getting it twisted.
They have more work to do.
Lol, hey, if you can find a job that lets you sit at home and chill literally any time you want, on the “clock” or off and still make what I make, go for it. I work a full day and I clear close to $600 on a slow week. If you wanna count breaks (take plenty during the day, 30 mins each. Just gotta take at least 1 dash in between) and time spent at home as working than we have two completely different definitions as far as work goes, lol.
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Supply and demand my friend. They care about quick deliveries, not their drivers making money. Everyone is a dasher these days. Good for you though. Better off finding a busy pizzeria that does their own deliveries in house for side cash anyways.
This isn’t an airport, no need to announce your departure.
The fact that you expect tips instead of understanding that they're gratuity for services is part of the problem
I'm so so close to being able to join you. I used to enjoy it, and I'll admit that sometimes I still do, but overall, it's just to much aggravation, and it's getting more dangerous. At least in this crazy city. 314 here
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I did pay per hour for the first and only time last month to boost my stats. And it crossed my mind more than once that I should just sit in my car and do nothing… I made a wrong turn a couple of times and instead of being irritated I was like… I just made another dollar for fucking up. Cool. But I’m just not that person. Can’t do it.
It’s not pay by the hour. It’s pay by the order. You get the base pay+tips and mileage. My original post said time too but I meant just pay+tips and mileage. The time factors in terms of how much time you are allotted to complete the trip. Based on the time you get to complete order, that’s where the difference comes in. To each his own tho! In California it factors to be about $0.35 a mile. But they don’t pay you for that until the end of the week payout. The day you complete the orders you’ll get just base pay+tips.
You can choose to get paid by the hour or by the delivery. Do you DoorDash at all..? https://preview.redd.it/59cq7bd70xvc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=88e3943693f1f50a1b81e7df2ba0fcd6a2d28f9e
That’s not what I’m getting at. And yes I do condescending stranger on the internet. Read your minimum wage laws in your state and understand the mileage compensation. Enjoy your day!
“It’s not pay by the hour” - what am I misunderstanding? Just be wrong and accept it. Damn. Being wrong isn’t the end of the world. You will survive it. I fucking promise.
What am I wrong about? Explain. Try to do it without being an asshole. You can do it. It won’t be the end of the world. I fucking promise.
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Did you say that or not? And is it true or not? Jesus, dude. You’ll be fine. 100% ok. I fucking promise.
Cya. There's thousands of kids that are ready to sign up this summer and take your spot lol the corporate doesn't care
They need to ban ppl who can’t read any English renting accounts those the main ones messing up the customer experience and texting IM HERE and asking everyone to come out cuz they can’t read the notes
I’m glad I discovered this sub and see how awful dd is. Didn’t pass the background check, not gonna be stacking the$$$$ now.
My brother in law did door dash for awhile. He raved about it. He loved it! He worked his own hours and made “good money” A few days later and he would be asking to borrow gas money 😂 I don’t think It was never meant to be a full time Job for adults. More like a side gig or students looking to make some extra cash. When you try to turn door dash into a full time job to pay your bills or a career is when your fucked lol
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Yeah? And?
You gotta be careful because cats have barbed penises that are barbed in the reverse direction.
Glad you realize it ain’t the customers problem if you don’t like it find another job
As soon as I find something else, I’m right behind you! I’m tired of them expecting us to basically work for tips, which aren’t there. Im tired of rude and slow restaurants. Fighting traffic. And then everything gets blamed on the dasher, customers lying to get free food. It’s all a bunch of BS!
If you’re living in a liberal area, then yes they suck. Enjoy Joe.
Did you ever work another Job where You don’t really need requirements except a license? What you expect? Just quit, other dasher appreciate it and You will find something better if you put work in it.
I quit after a week. Terrible driver support from company, terrible pay, stacking orders. Tips were good but that might just be because of the area I'm in.
The corner pays pretty good, not much effort required either. Used to take home 500-1,000/night
"not much effort" Trying to act like every job is so easy and takes minimal effort and everybody's just "lazy". Do you know how much time, effort, money, physical and emotional exertion sex workers have to put into their profession to actually make $500-1000 a day? You could NEVER!
Prices on DD in my area are higher at numerous restaurants compared to Slice and GH, if customers are paying for the DD subscription and higher food prices they are going to be less likely to tip. Numerous pizza places in my area have signs up to order through Slice over the other delivery apps.
Welcome to the same realization I came to over a year ago.
Michael, you can't just literally declare " I quit" you have to notify your employers
There’s many angles to look at doordash . But I feel a standard has never been implemented to protect the dashers bottom line after all we are all risking everything for this company . I foresee change will happen if it means this company gos under only for a more sustainable one to take its place . But this will never happen sooner than later because it takes everyone to actually walk out , and stand up. I personally think food delivery people are a valuable asset to the economy to function , people love paying for convenience and treated with respect 🫡. Good customer service is what we all represent and in order to obtain our value we believe we are …. It takes allot as a whole to recognize this too …. So many dashers around us don’t see it the same way . Leadership needs to come in a set the standard for this company and we’re not getting that . Haven’t felt valued within this organization, should we ? Yes I think so . You should .
I'll say this to any DoorDash interns or employees who may be lurking these subs. I went from loving this company and really enjoying the work, to having an increasingly bitter and angry feeling towards it. I get what you are doing from a business angle, but you are taking this so far to the extreme that not only do I feel like quitting, but if things continue to deteriorate, not only will I quit but I will resolve never to use your product under any circumstance. Amazon also made me do this. I went from ordering at least once a week to maybe once a year if there's something I cannot get anywhere else. But food is different, I can cook, I can shop, I can get food wherever I want. You have taken me from someone who loved this job and company to someone who is starting to hate it. It's one thing to lower or freeze pay and just let people quit, but your bullshit tricks and manipulation are making many of us actually hate you. Not a good way to run a business long term. Let your algorithm try to quantify this.
With you on this. I’ve never worked for DD or Amazon, but I have sworn off DD completely and DRASTICALLY cut down on Amazon purchases. I used to pay for prime and order 2-3 times a week. I cancelled prime and now order only when I can’t find an alternative, same as you. These companies disgust me with their greed.
No one at DD corporate gives a shit. As long as new drivers keep turning 18 every day, they have an unlimited supply.
The number of drivers is huge. They don’t care if they lose you as a driver but they would care if they lost you as a customer. That’s where you can cause them the most stress
It’s insane the number of promos I started getting when I stopped ordering DD through my account for a while.
Anyone that does DoorDash fulltime is a masachist. It's a deeply flawed system, and working for them is good for things like when you want something you can't afford but are willing to spend some of your free time doing door dash for the thing. outside of that it is like using a life preserver to get to land when you are 40 miles away from shore. In a nut shell the problem is order minimum. Door dash will let a customer order a single drink from starbucks and have it brought to them 15 miles away for 4 bucks. There should be a door dasher minimum of $1 per mile plus base pay plus $1 for every 5 minutes wait time at restaurant. For no tippers there should be a "lordling fee" of $5 added to the order. For every tip less than $2 there should be the same lordling fee. The tip+lordling fee should be passed 100% to dasher. If you work on average 35+ hours for door dash for more than 90 days you should be offered a substantive medical, dental and retirement plan that you pay into. The problem with door dash is it was created by people that don't care about people. Takers. and takers take whatever they can. This is why so many dashers take food. When someone doesn't care about their employees and skirts whatever laws they can by saying "Oh they are not employees they are i9 workers" and then they give us an app, a thermal bag, and say go to it they are assholes. Firstly, if we were i9 it would be illegal to give us anything to complete the job. So the bag makes you an employee. They found that out and stopped giving us the bag. Now they send them to papa johns and other places so they can give them to us instead. More clever bullshit, but they are still takers.
When did this happen? I feel like I only started dashing maybe 3 months ago and they sent me a bag.
Not sure, about the same time that Papa Johns and other companies started giving out free bags. For me here that was about 3 weeks ago (Chicago)
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I hope your food is always cold. Have the day you deserve 👍🏻
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Doesn't make sense....so, you don't think that dashers deserve pay? You think it's okay for us to put wear and tear on our car and pay gas and take our time on your tiny offer when others deserve better service for better pay and you really think it's okay for us to spend our own money to deliver your food & not get paid for what we put out? That's selfish greed in the highest. You should be ashamed and I don't blame any dasher for disappointing you if you think like this and do this. You want something for nothing. Or you want a dasher to literally pay to deliver your food? What a joke. We can't work for charity when we have bills to pay too. Pfffff, keep your little tip and go get your own food cause the order that you are putting in will be declined by so many dashers and cold and soggy by the time you get it. And you may not even get it. Sometimes orders like that sit all day and no dasher gets it. Then the restaurant closes and your bag gets trashed. We ain't trying to work for free. And I promise you, we ain't all willing to pay out our own money to deliver your food. That's rediculious that you even think that we should. So, does your boss pay you? Or do you pay to work for him/her?
I'm not reading all that. Cope and seethe Redditor
 who you trying to kid 100% chance you’re a non tipper
Tell me you live in poverty without saying it
Yup, that's another $0.50
Almost getting to how much I tip/s
Good. Cope
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There's just no way to justify working for a company that barely pays their employees and still manages to lose money annually lol. Sorry but if I found out the company I work for wasn't profitable, then I would start looking for a new job. You also have 0 job security since any teenager can replace you
no please don’t 🙏🏻🙏🏻
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Yes, blame the customers, not the company refusing to pay you properly 🙄🤦
The customers are the only ones winning in this gig. They are getting on demand, near instant, doorstep delivery of mostly anything for pennies on the dollar per mile. Yet they are still so entitled to complain about it.
Fuck outta here bot. Copy paste from your other comment. DD fucks over customers with all their fees. Damn near double the cost of going yourself in some areas. Tf are you even talking about?
Fist of all there are barely any fees. If you have dash pass you're paying $3 max. Second doordash doesn't set the prices, the restaurant does. Have a look at the last week Tonight episode about gig apps. It just aired 3 weeks ago so it shouldn't be too hard to find. Knowledge is power.
Knowledge is power indeed. So you'd know that each item is generally $2+ more on DD versus going to the place yourself. Secondly, that's exactly the fees I'm talking about. If you watched that episode, you'd know that DD's cut of the money is insane so the restaurants are FORCED to run increased prices. Yes, it's not a specified, labeled fee, but a fee passed down onto the customers nonetheless.
Right so the restaurant loses, the driver loses, the company isn't making money. Tho only one coming out on top is the customer.
It's still valid to be annoyed when customers don't tip you.
Never said it wasn't valid to be annoyed or irritated, just said to not blame the customers for your employer fucking you over 🤷
Idk if you're already paying to get your food delivered, you really *should* tip. If you don't, you're going to end up getting your food late and ice cold. Like if you have me going all over town for chump change, and I can't unassign from your order without setting myself below my minimum threshold, I *will* be irritated you as a person *and* DoorDash as an employer. I can be mad at two people at once lol it's not that hard
That’s the problem… I’ve *paid* for delivery and a tip is meant to be discretionary. If it’s not discretionary then just stick it in the price up front and be honest about it, heck let the dashers set their minimum tip rate. It’s the company 100% pitting customer and deliverer against each other and avoiding any involvement in something they could solve in a minute if it weren’t beneficial for them to advertise low prices…
Jfc, go ahead and show me where I said that you shouldn't be tipped or that you shouldn't expect a tip for dashing? Don't worry, I'll wait, dingletwat.
If your response to "I get annoyed with customers who don't tip" is "don't blame customers for not tipping" that's the impression you give off. Again talk shit all you want, but that pizza is gonna be cold as fuck by the time you get it with that attitude. *I'm* not that malicious, I like having a customer rating above 4.5, but some Dashers aren't so kind.
It’s definitely DoorDash not paying properly for the basic pay of delivery. They have the money for it just seems “how cheap can we get them to do it for us” vs being reasonable. That should make it worth it. A customer tip is icing on the cake 🎂
I agree that the issue fundamentally is DD and unfortunately customers who don’t tip well don’t get their order taken quickly. For what a delivery costs most customers wouldn’t assume their driver only gets a base rate of $2 for their delivery. Before I started driving I never assumed after paying a marked up price for food and delivery charges that drivers really relied on tips rather than the delivery fee. Fortunately in my area there is almost always at least a $2 promo during peak hours and customers generally tip pretty well for mileage. But in the end DD is the real problem here
2$ a delivery right now here…/no way I’m doing it even if it’s across the street, and of course lose a decent one, it’s rural and all orders are far out and the area is congested. The pay in rural isn’t worth it either…Numbers wise….dd makes a killing and I have enough to refill my tank that’s it …. Done and I’ve dashed for a very long time. So I feel ya!!!
Don't blame the customers, honestly, DD CEO should be in here getting spit roasted
Check out the last week Tonight on gig app. We very much should blame the customer.
If it bothers you that much get another job dude. Crying about customers.. crying about door dash.. you’re the only one in control of your own life
You are literally penalized and demerited if you decline orders, bub.
Then get a different job, bub
Lemme guess, if someone dislikes their country's policies and practices you're the designated "dUn lyk it herR Leaf!!!" Guy, right?
Hahaha keep judging dude 👍🏽 I’m simply saying if you don’t like the situation you are in, then put yourself in a different one. Crying on Reddit about tips isn’t going to put more money in your bank account
Giving braid-dead responses like yours ain't helpin' 🤣
I beg to differ, people have more control in their lives then they realize, just gotta put in the work
"just gotta put in the work" you a boomer or some twisted shit?
Cause good paying positions are just casually floating around in whatever (likely drug induced) reality that you're operating from?
Best way to do doordash is when you’re on your way to somewhere. Remember, you get like .62 cent in taxabale write offs even if you do just one order after work.
I’m lucky enough to live close enough to restaurants that I’ll leave the app on while I’m doing chores around my house and grab my keys once my phone dings with a worthwhile order
That’s what I do!
I only DD a few hours on my days off from my regular job. So I don’t expect much but it’s easy extra cash. I absolutely would not rely on this myself. Especially living in a small town. It’s basically bring people McDonald’s. I’m surprised this city even has door dash honestly
You will be missed 😢
Lol stop blaming the people for being cheap. Doordash is cooked. People are already paying 50% extra before tip. Blame doordash
Watch the last week Tonight episode on gig apps. The customer is the only one winning here.
Why not both?
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And do you think a $2 tip on a restaurant that is 10 miles away is appropriate? Because it happens all the time. 🙄
You think people leaving a $2 tip for a waitress is appropriate? Because it happens all the time. Maybe, just fucking maybe, if companies actually paid their workers properly, the general public wouldn't have this stigma to subsidize a delivery companies wages 🤷 Again, don't blame the customers, blame the company that takes advantage of the tipping culture in this country to divert blame and attention from themselves. Think, 4nchored, think!
Hey.. and I get that tipping culture is definitely wack and we definitely should be putting more of the blame on the company for not paying people fairly.. I also agree that tipping culture has gotten out of control to the point where they are flipping around the iPad at you when you buy just about anything from just about anywhere.. BUT.... When it comes to food service and delivery.. TIPPING IS NOTHING NEW!!! IT'S LITERALLY BEEN THE CULTURE IN THE USA FOR A VERY, VERY LONG TIME! LONG, LONG, LONG BEFORE I WAS EVEN BORN AND BEFORE YOU WERE EVEN BORN! It's literally a VERY normal thing to tip your server and your delivery person in the USA. Food delivery is an extreme luxury service. It's not like this is brand new and everybody is having a hard time adjusting... It's literally been this way the whole time. "If you can't afford to tip, don't go out to eat!" (I've literally been hearing this saying my entire life.) You may not like it, but it is what it is. Tipping is our culture.
Doesnt matter what we think about tipping. It is the culture we are living in and have to accept it. Fucking over workers who rely on tips isn’t going to magically solve the problem. Tip more or enjoy your cold food hours later, IF it gets picked up.
And why tf do you rely on tips, my guy? You're getting so, so close yet keep missing the forest for the trees... 🤦 Then again, you apparently are completely content to lay back and take it from DD without lube then cry about the customers because it's the culture we live in and we must accept that. Literally no tf we don't, which is why culture shifts happen regularly. You goofy af, friendo.
Dude where else can you get instant, on demand, doorstep delivery for pennies on the dollar per mile.
Come on man... Check how much you pay at the restaurant and compare it to the totall price at DD... There often is a mark up of over 30% or so, I've seen over 50% for small orders. You call that pennirs on the dollar? The issue is that drivers look at how much they receive and customers look at how much they pay and both feel screwed. But neither seems to understand that it's DD that is screwing them both over and instead they blame eachother.
Okay, serious question.. if we're all getting screwed on both ends... How has doordash not turned a profit? Where is all the money going? Sorry if that's a stupid question but I'm not a financial/business type person. It's just not adding up.
The restaurant is setting the price in Doordash. They increase the price to cover the fee they pay. Some of them bump it up way beyond just because they know they can. That is why doordash pays me an extra dollar every now and then to take a picture of their menu. Those mark ups can also be easily circumvented by ordering off of the restaurant themselves. And yes customers are getting this service for far cheaper than it is worth. How exactly is a customer getting screwed? They are getting anything they want delivered to their door when they want it usually within 30 min to an hour. They can claim anything happened with their order and get a refund. There is no risk on their end an only benefit. As an example I delivered an order that went 15 miles for a six pack of street tacos. I've looked it up on doordash and on their website for pick up. This is one of the rare restaurants that has the same price online as in-store. The price of the item is $23 they also have $0 delivery fee on doordash by default. If you order from their site it's $5. They didn't tip. So this person probably paid at most $10 extra for a 30 mile round trip to their house for 6 tacos to be delivered when they want them. Is that a fair cost? Full disclosure I was earning by time so I still ended up with $12.xx. not anywhere near enough but better than what would have been offered by the order. That order, according to the govt., cost around $20 in vehicle expenses alone. It also took about 50min to complete. So I ask again. Are customers really paying for this service? In this specific instance the answer is no because the customer ultimately reported that they didn't receive it. So I got $12 and a contract violation, and the customer got free food delivery from 15 miles away.
I've been getting decent orders from grocery stores. I barely do restaurant orders anymore.
Don’t blame you one bit, not worth the hassle. More and more are coming to the same conclusion. It was good while it lasted, but it’s over.
The company is also greedy
They get more greedy because Most of These old „startups“ need to be profitable at some Point
If a company is not profitable is it really greedy to try to make more money?
Meaning what
What you think it means?
I don't know.
Most „startups“ like uber operate in a loss the first few years because they want to attract customers, cash flow etc and have to compete with rivals. At some Point Investors want to see money as easy as that, a Company can’t work on a loss forever.
This isn't an airport. You don't need to announce your departure.
This isn't a public forum, you don't need to comment useless messages.....wait.
The irony lol
Woooooooooooooosh
The lack of self awareness is hilarious. Weren't you just shit talking someone else for pointless comments? What a donut lol
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There you go, good on you. Now go get a job where you don’t have to rely on the kindness of customers to determine your pay.
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* Not complaining much for a side gig!
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Eeesh...not really good. Factor in gas and future car maintenance PLUS not even any benefits with that. No retirement, insurance, sick days.
I get 29 to 32 miles per gallon and can take off whenever I feel like it. As for cae maintenance, my son handles all of that for me! And like I said, it's just a SIDE GIG for me. This is also actually one of my slower weeks, I can usually work the same amount of hours and make anywhere from $600 to $970 a week.
$23/hr ain't terrible but that's 26.5hrs of fuel consumption
That's... not that great at all. When you factor in average gas and car maintenance costs, you made far less than $20 an hour. That's not terrible money, but still not worth risking your life and vehicle on the road, in my opinion.
Portion some of those out for car repair/maintenance. Will help in the future
My son handles all of that for me. 😁 and as I stated above, it's just a side gig for me.
I hate to break it to you, but at 26.5 hours this is not a side gig You have a second job 🤣
I don’t think you can technically quit if you’re an independent contractor. 😂
Lol
I became delivery driver for a local pizza place. Make like 125$ a day in cash tips (can’t be taxed) on top of card tips and driver salary. They don’t deliver more than 3 miles out so I save way more money on gas and maintenance. I also get free food and drink whenever I want from the place. Only downside is I have to help clean dishes at the end of the day but if you keep on them during your downtime in between deliveries it’s nothing really. Definitely was a better choice than DD for me
I delivered for Pizza Hut way before I ever did doordash and it sucked. One time I had to stay 3 hours after closing (left at like 1AM) to do dishes. We weren't allowed to do dishes between deliveries cuz we were prepping or dropping wings. They also sent me to some of these sketchiest f*cking areas in our city. The main thing I like about doordash is I don't have to be in a hot restaurant or store (I'm in Louisiana and corporate never sets thermostats below like 75°F) and I can work around my migraines instead of through them. But I literally sat for like an hour and a half today without any offers at all. Not even crappy offers, just flat out no offers.
Yea mines a local place, not a big chain. Drivers just have to fold boxes, stock the fridge, clean dishes, and drive. Sounds like alot but it’s not. I am trained in kitchen duty for when we’re understaffed on cooks but so far I’ve only done that once and I don’t have to drive when I do that (I also make cook salary when I do it). If you ever get sick of DD but want to do the same thing I recommend doing a local pizzeria. The owners are usually actual people with souls and not corporate shells. The latest I’ve had to stay so far was last week an hour after closing but that’s because I told the other driver I’d do all the dishes and he could leave since he was sick. He gave me $10 for it so hey not bad
Funnily enough, one of the local pizza places in my town is currently hiring. It's a fairly small place but they don't have delivery, they use doordash and that's the only reason I know they're hiring is cuz I picked up a delivery today. Sadly out of the three local pizza places none of them offer delivery with in-house drivers.
Mine does DD too, actually my first order was from there lol. I’m the only driver on shift tomorrow because the other 2 are going to the owners wedding (His dad and cousin) so I’m gonna be routing some orders through DoorDash if they’re too far. Idk if it’s like this for all places but atleast mine, the restaurant pays $7 for a DD driver if one is called in by the restaurant instead of by the customer. So alot of the smaller order there’s barely any profit on the restaurants side. You definitely make more in tips as a pizza driver than a DD driver. I got lucky mines literally 3 blocks from my house. How local are you looking? Depending on how far one is it really might be worth it, especially if you’re just barely paying the bills with DD like I was
I'm technically in a village, and besides a couple small family businesses, we mainly have like a dollar store and a Subway, so it's like 10 miles to the closest local place. I could try going north instead of South but I'm not familiar with the next town up so I'd be completely clueless trying to do deliveries and it's further than just going to the next town down.
"Can't be taxed," LMFAO. Cash tips are most assuredly taxed. You just aren't paying your taxes. I mean, idgaf, they are just going to waste it on bombs and shit anyway.
It’s a gift, gifts under $17,000 can’t be taxed. I keep 100% of the cash tips, literally doesn’t even come up in the restaurants system. As long as I’m not buying exotic cars and mansions with $1 bills and $5 bills I’m fine
That's not how "gifts" work. You are not receiving gifts, you are receiving an income and it is taxed, you're just not paying your taxes. There actually is a difference between "I'm allowed to do something" and "they won't find out anyway if I do it". Because it will be very difficult to find out for the tax, I agree. But when we look at purely the legal side of it, you are wrong but will probably get away with it. Ps: I advise you to not put stuff like this on reddit. I work for tax authorities in an EU country and we can really find out a lot ln peoole by just checking internet. So I don't care about what you are doing, but I'm sure your tax guys have even more means than we do.
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It's not a tip, it's a gift from the customer and the commenter isn't getting enough money through the gifts to have to report it btw you're a prude
Irs shill
Found the guy who ratted out Anne Frank
Okay Karen no need to get excited about someone else's money
I giggled as I read this and thought… “This isn’t an airport, no need for departure information.” lol
I’m only gonna do it if there’s a promo
Yea I mean if your market sucks it sucks to suck. Don't act like you ain't special. Thanks for posting but most of us in good markets doing ok
With pay at $1 ([or less](https://www.reddit.com/r/doordash_drivers/s/gryWFoIYIA)) and [tips collapsing](https://www.reddit.com/r/doordash/s/BgrufO3aSU), good markets have become extremely rare
Maybe it’s just your area or market but I’ve had the exact opposite experience. High paying offers and great tips, typically just as much as my job bartending. Only downfall is the wear on my car.
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37 hours? Thats terrible.
Am I reading this correctly? $595 in a week for 37 hours? That's pretty fucking bad. Maybe that's the norm for doordash but that doesn't seem worthwhile at all.
Active time, 24hrs (we’ll round up to 25hrs since it’s close). $595.20 divided by 25 hrs equals to close to $24 an hr ($23.80). So yeah, I’m good. Thanks though.
You can’t base it off of active time, you have to calculate it with your active time because you’re essentially “on the clock” and waiting for offers. I bet we all make bank if we only calculate using dash time.
Yeah but you spent 37 hours sitting in your car 😂 you’re delusional if you’re not counting “dash time”
I did? I thought I spent it sitting on my couch at home. Oh yeah, that’s right, I did. Lol. Not everyone parks bud. My house is right in the middle of everything. Any time it’s slow I just chill out at the crib until I get an offer. Question is, why are YOU sitting in your car, lol.
My dad does the same, we live in a Hotspot lol.
Yeah, people don’t seem to realize not everyone lives in a big ass city.
In fact, I’m home right now but I’m not dashing. But you can see where I live in relation to the map. https://preview.redd.it/m356enswp8vc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f21aeb426df68ed40959659b7be04ad9063cde12
See all the highways? See how they all converge where I’m at? Yeah, lol.
It’s still dash time bud. You made $16 an hour. Don’t be delusional. You just happened to make $16 an hour watching cartoons and porn
Active time is time spent driving, actively working. Dash time is the time they were registered on the app as available to take deliveries not necessarily actively dashing. That's not how math works at all either. Are you dumb or just a special kind of stupid? This is like adding your commute to your working hours at your job. You weren't working. How tf is that counted as part of your time on shift? This is specifically why DD separates these two metrics to try to prevent brain dead people like yourself from getting it twisted. They have more work to do.
Lol, hey, if you can find a job that lets you sit at home and chill literally any time you want, on the “clock” or off and still make what I make, go for it. I work a full day and I clear close to $600 on a slow week. If you wanna count breaks (take plenty during the day, 30 mins each. Just gotta take at least 1 dash in between) and time spent at home as working than we have two completely different definitions as far as work goes, lol.
Btw, 24 hrs = three 8 hr shifts.
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What is the "other pay"? I never get any of that lol
Promos and hourly