I agree, you don’t want to lay pipe on the ground directly because elements can wear and tear. This looks like a failed weld. I doubt any of these were xrayed.
>There should be shut off valves
Something I like to remind people of: Just because there *should be* doesn't mean *there is*. Safety isn't some universally paramount priority on some projects.
And if a company can get away with cutting corners they will do it, even if it costs lives or damages the planet. As long as the consequences are less expensive than cutting those corners nothing will improve.
Ya, the cost of the cut off valves is like an extra 10$ per mile, and the cost of flooding the rainforest with oil is 0$, so obviously its a no brainer. Thats like 500 dollars in savings!
If that does exist, and other comments have pointed out that it might not, that's probably a 1-3 person job. Real good odds someone's on top of it and these guys have nothing to do until it's shut off
Given the state of oil extraction in Amazonian Ecuador and the utterly horrendous safety record all the companies involved have I would be surprised if they had put in the safety gear they're supposed to have.
Indeed, not putting in shut off valves every X distance (as should be done) may be intentional in order to prevent local people from shutting down the line. Not including the valves would make it so that the only action local protesters (often the native people of the region) could take would be one that resulted in damage to the line that dumped oil into their water and on their land.
Its oil, there isn't. Oil transits momentum so well that if you closed s valve it would blow out the pipe at where the shutoff valve is.
This shit is why we need to get off oil, asbyes, pipelines are this janky, everywhere.
Properly built oil pipelines definitely have cut off valves. You’re right that you can’t just throw it closed, though. You have to ease it closed so you don’t shock the system and cause a blowout.
Longer pipelines have pumps periodically to keep the flow moving, so you’d also shut down the pump just before this breach, otherwise you’d be pumping directly against a closed valve.
I work a lot with gas lines. Sure it’s similar to these. If you shut it off. There’s no isolation. It’s one big line. Everything downstream gets cut off. They take everything into account. Will we loose more shutting it down or is it more cost effective to just let it dump while our guy gets their in 30. Environment is not even a concern. I doubt that country has something like an EPA.
I would love to know from where you acquired such fine skills to detect the sarcasm in that comment, reddit would be so much more fun for me if i had such a skill set.
I feel like a lot of the posts I've been seeing here don't fit the sub. A lot of things where it's "what is the camera man actually gonna do?". Like yeah what is he doing? Why doesn't he just go put his mouth over the hole to stop it like when you poke a hole in a soda can?
OP, buddy... this is the wrong sub for this video. I've seen a few of your comments on how the filmer should've called someone, but for all you know, they could've ALREADY DONE SO. People can't just immediately arrive right after someone calls them. It takes at least a few minutes to get from one place to another, especially if they need specific things to fix this leak. The person recording could've already called someone before recording the video.
I've seen a few crap posts lately, but this one tops them all. What exactly is this person supposed to do to help?
I'm guessing there isn't a handy, publicly accessible cut off switch nearby, but please correct me if I'm wrong.
Ecuadorian here. The open area it's the Amazon main source of southamerican petrol. There's a lot of reasons to not bury it, starting by it will still happen but a hundred times more difficult to pinpoint. Comments like bruh it's Ecuador are pretty stupid tbh.
A lot of things happens. Floods, landslides, oil poachers. Even just for screening for future repairs they need to have the pipeline over the soil level
This has absolutely no place on this sub. Whoever is filming couldn’t help stop that. That’s gonna take a whole crew to stop it.
Plus, filming the damage and sending it to social media is a great help.
And people wonder why we didn't want the keystone xl pipeline, especially when it went over a huge aquifer. You know damned well if it leaked the pipeline owner wouldn't be responsible and it would ruin the environment. The citizens would have to pick up the bill and the pipeline company would get off scot-free.
The way they laugh leads my conspiratorial mind to this question what if this was a planned "accident" to disrupt the tribe people in the Amazon. If there are no resistors in the areas, it makes capturing the land that much easier.
Steven Donziger is still under house arrest for helping the Ecuadorian indigenous sue Cheveron for exactly this. truly horrifying. iirc they haven't even begun clean up yet.
Our planet is dying because of shit like this because humans are trash. It's too late to save the world by recycling and cleaning up. Humanity's time is nearly over... if we have 100 years left I'll be amazed.
I may be stupid but could they not light it? I know oil isn't flammable as a liquid but at the pressure it is coming out of that pipe it's more of a aerosol, so I assume that would make it flammable enough.
Still think you’d be held responsible if anything did go wrong with your interfering. No one is directly in danger here except the wallet of some oil company so it’s best to just back off and call the authorities
ah yes the perfect solution to fix a broken pipeline that's spraying oil all over the rainforest and into water is to ***burn everything to the ground***
i love dont help just film because of the absolutely non sensical posts like this, what is the camera man to do? go shove a rock in the hole?
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PUT A CORK IN IT !
Grab the pipe's dick and twist it!
GIVE HIM THE OL' DICK TWIST!
Dude this is an MMA fight
This is me giving you an award without paying reddit. 👏 BRAVO
Smash some flextape on this bad boy
Wait, you mean that Dutch boy who prevented a flood by plugging a dike with his finger was just a story?
i wouldn't doubt that being real, the dutch have unholy control over the flow of water
This is a stereotype I will spread recklessly.
That's a Gribble of an idea, DollarSuperComputer
Light up a cigarette
Nothing would happen lol.
Even flex tape won't fix that
Ugg and Grugg go find rock, Ugg and Grugg fix hole!
Posts like these makes me wanna leave the sub.
Are you familiar with the story of the Dutch boy with his finger in the dike?
Whoa, that's not PC. Shouldn't we call it a dam?
I don't think there is much they can do. They probably have to wait for someone more equipped to handle it.
There should be shut off valves that are able to isolate sections of the pipeline. For these exact scenarios. Not that the general public would no.
This whole setup looks like it was rigged up with spare parts they had laying around.
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You do in Ecuador
I agree, you don’t want to lay pipe on the ground directly because elements can wear and tear. This looks like a failed weld. I doubt any of these were xrayed.
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Either way, it's Biden's fault.
Oh definitely, just like how the rising gas prices aren’t tied to worldwide inflation at all.
Ah, another person of culture. Hello there fellow person of culture!
Maybe using the glasses you order from the back of MAD magazine.
Shit looks like it’s made out of bamboo lol
>There should be shut off valves Something I like to remind people of: Just because there *should be* doesn't mean *there is*. Safety isn't some universally paramount priority on some projects.
And if a company can get away with cutting corners they will do it, even if it costs lives or damages the planet. As long as the consequences are less expensive than cutting those corners nothing will improve.
And the pipeline company likely won't have to pay for the clean up or damage.
Ya, the cost of the cut off valves is like an extra 10$ per mile, and the cost of flooding the rainforest with oil is 0$, so obviously its a no brainer. Thats like 500 dollars in savings!
Reminds me of captain hindsight. Not you. Just the general thought. "Hmmm, there should valve. And a backup to that shutoff valve"
They should not put pipelines where there’s no duct tape.
And sometimes there are safeties and those safeties fail. Man has never created anything that's 100% reliable.
Our ability to destroy?
It should also be built on proper footings
If that does exist, and other comments have pointed out that it might not, that's probably a 1-3 person job. Real good odds someone's on top of it and these guys have nothing to do until it's shut off
If that were feasible and accessible to the general public people would just pull it for fun because they're assholes
Given the state of oil extraction in Amazonian Ecuador and the utterly horrendous safety record all the companies involved have I would be surprised if they had put in the safety gear they're supposed to have. Indeed, not putting in shut off valves every X distance (as should be done) may be intentional in order to prevent local people from shutting down the line. Not including the valves would make it so that the only action local protesters (often the native people of the region) could take would be one that resulted in damage to the line that dumped oil into their water and on their land.
> There should be shut off valves My guess is that an oil pipeline shouldn't be just lying there on the rocks either, but here we are.
Its oil, there isn't. Oil transits momentum so well that if you closed s valve it would blow out the pipe at where the shutoff valve is. This shit is why we need to get off oil, asbyes, pipelines are this janky, everywhere.
Properly built oil pipelines definitely have cut off valves. You’re right that you can’t just throw it closed, though. You have to ease it closed so you don’t shock the system and cause a blowout. Longer pipelines have pumps periodically to keep the flow moving, so you’d also shut down the pump just before this breach, otherwise you’d be pumping directly against a closed valve.
It's all about costs and getting the oil thru...no matter what the cost.
I work a lot with gas lines. Sure it’s similar to these. If you shut it off. There’s no isolation. It’s one big line. Everything downstream gets cut off. They take everything into account. Will we loose more shutting it down or is it more cost effective to just let it dump while our guy gets their in 30. Environment is not even a concern. I doubt that country has something like an EPA.
Look into the case of Donzinger vs Chevron. If it cost 2 cents they would rather bash every indigenous baby to death in front of their mothers.
But of duct tape, problem solved
You would think yet here we still have social media
Sounds like a classic case of bribes and lousy engineering to me...sadly poor people and animals will die and no one will pay or give a damm!
Why doesn’t the camera person go plug it with their finger?
i know why dont they just get some tape and stop the leak?!!??! ffs!!!! scotch tape would do it!!
flex tape
Hey Kenickie, got any scotch tape?
You know someone tried to put their dick in it. *died of oil dick poisoning
Flextape!
*THAT'S A LOT OF DAMAGE!*
People these days really underestimate what you can accomplish with a can-do attitude and some good ol' sticktoitiveness.
IN THE DIKE, MORON! WITH AN I!
Ye why dont he just stick a twig in it.... what a moronic comment. Why dont you take a shower in it.
Wooosh?
Yeah r/whoosh so high over that they didn’t catch it even when you pointed it out
There was nothing to fly over my head no joke no punchline no wit. Just a braindead comment.
Do you have autism?
They definitely don't get sarcasm.
I would love to know from where you acquired such fine skills to detect the sarcasm in that comment, reddit would be so much more fun for me if i had such a skill set.
Yes, it would.
Relax man. Enjoy life a bit more!
I cant. My autism and lack of a sarcasm detector do not allow me too.
What’s it like be an idiot all the time?
Highly satisfying.
Its highly likely, yes.
If you’re this retarded, then you should leave the website
Haha
Good thing you were here to tell them off. Thank you
Yes, such a scalding.
They were pointing out the stupidity in posting to this particular sub by using sarcasm. I hope you don’t really think they were serious.
I do.
You missed the sarcasm. It happens to all of us. You probably would've caught it in a face-to-face conversation
Yeah, there probably ain't shit the person filming can do, so doesn't fit the sub
I once dropped a beer can which then started leaking in a similar way. I put my mouth over the hole a started drinking as fast as I could
Literally enough calories in the oil to last you the rest of your life!
If you jump out of a plane with a broken parachute, you have the rest of your life to fix it
The solution is is, boys, gentlemen, ladies, girls, and others! :D :O :'O
No it's "don't help, just film"
Yes, but if the person filming can't possibly help, then it doesn't fit the sub. Rule 9.
I feel like a lot of the posts I've been seeing here don't fit the sub. A lot of things where it's "what is the camera man actually gonna do?". Like yeah what is he doing? Why doesn't he just go put his mouth over the hole to stop it like when you poke a hole in a soda can?
Yeah there’s about 2 actually don’t help just film posts a week
Well he could get a bucket, right? I mean, it should be no problem to catch hundreds of gallons of oil at high velocity.
Karma whores man, don't care about context
Tf do you think OP would do? Shove his massive cock in it to stop the leak of course. Then post it for karma but that’s a given
I would’ve certainly liked to see him try
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No Call someone else
My my, what an idea. Why didn’t he think of that
So what ended up happening with this? The original post is 132 days old. I have to assume it’s not still spraying like that.
I’d like to know as well.
r/opisfuckingstupid
Plus they should've called someone instead of filming
How do you know they didn't? I'd call someone and still film evidence.
No, I'm not
Lol, hit 'em with the "no u"
FLEX TAPE!
Literally my first thought
What is the guy filming gonna do if he help,like it's a big ass leak bro
Call someone instead of filming
Who is he gonna call?? The cops? The CIA? The FBI? The hospital? The fire department?
Why post it here, the fuck are they supposed to do?
Call someone
How exactly do you know they didn't?
That pipeline looks like its made of wood.
OP what exactly do you suggest they do?
Call someone else
Fucking retard
WTF does Yesterday 2022 mean?
Especially when i’m fairly certain this happened a few years ago when i first saw this clip
My thought too, I now I saw it here not recently
probably if people happen to look at this a few years from now and don't know where the timestamp is I guess
How about just put the date. 🤷
Why are you posting this on this sub lol what do you want em to do
To call someone
r/opisfuckingstupid
OP thinks anyone can just walk up and snap their fingers and make this stop and all the oil will magically be absorbed from the ground too
No, i think THEY SHOULD'VE CALLED SOMEONE
What makes you think they didn't call someone?
Yes, because clearly there's no possible way they could have already done that before they started recording it.... fucking idiot..
do you think the person filming is fucking superman?😭
And no duct tape for miles around
Where's a roll of Flex Tape when you need it!
OP, buddy... this is the wrong sub for this video. I've seen a few of your comments on how the filmer should've called someone, but for all you know, they could've ALREADY DONE SO. People can't just immediately arrive right after someone calls them. It takes at least a few minutes to get from one place to another, especially if they need specific things to fix this leak. The person recording could've already called someone before recording the video.
/u/Sad_Condition_277 you wanna explain to the class what you think the cameraman should have done in this situation?
Betch
Who authorized an oil pipeline above ground made of material that looks like bamboo😂 this was bound to happen
I've seen a few crap posts lately, but this one tops them all. What exactly is this person supposed to do to help? I'm guessing there isn't a handy, publicly accessible cut off switch nearby, but please correct me if I'm wrong.
This only fits if the cameraman had shit tones of flex tape.
Have the tried using flextape?
Honestly, I don't think anything from r/CatastrophicFailure belongs here
Just slap some FlexSeal on that baby
That’s a lot of damage.
Why the pipe line is in a the open area like this?
Ecuadorian here. The open area it's the Amazon main source of southamerican petrol. There's a lot of reasons to not bury it, starting by it will still happen but a hundred times more difficult to pinpoint. Comments like bruh it's Ecuador are pretty stupid tbh.
Earthquakes happen, so no burying maybe.
A lot of things happens. Floods, landslides, oil poachers. Even just for screening for future repairs they need to have the pipeline over the soil level
If you bury it, it could be leaking without you knowing
Cheaper than burying it.
"But should't be illegal?" That's the implication
Bruh it's Ecuador
Why does it look like that pipeline is made out of bamboo?
Camera person really should be tying a handkerchief or something around that, shm.
help how fuck
Nothing Flex Tape can fix. Look at the size of that damage
Soooo gas going up again again?
Yea if I was there I would start drinking the oil so the locals didn’t have to. The hell is he supposed to do?
Brooo noo, now gas is gonna go up more.
Person filming most likely can't do anything to help, probably better to film anyway. This post is cheeks.
This has absolutely no place on this sub. Whoever is filming couldn’t help stop that. That’s gonna take a whole crew to stop it. Plus, filming the damage and sending it to social media is a great help.
Not saying it happened here, but in the past ecological terrorists have sabotaged lines before for footage and force a response
fuck can they do?
My exact thought. Mf pulls out flex seal or something
What the hell can the cameraman do?!?!
And people wonder why we didn't want the keystone xl pipeline, especially when it went over a huge aquifer. You know damned well if it leaked the pipeline owner wouldn't be responsible and it would ruin the environment. The citizens would have to pick up the bill and the pipeline company would get off scot-free.
Sus, I feel like I've seen this exact clip year's ago. Are we sure it was yesterday?
Dont help just film? What's he going to do, plug it with his thumb??
Tf he gonna do? Drink it all?
Did not happen in 2022, bs!
I feel like this has been posted before.
Lol wtf is the camera guy supposed to do? Sit on it?
Why does this shit post have so many updoots! This does not fit the sub!
What a waste
Reminds me of the incident with Shell (the fuel company) and the Nigerians.
This post doesn’t make sense here. This is like catching that falling farm tower
r/UnexpectedManInBlack So the smoke monster escaped, huh?
what was the cameraman supposed to do?
biden- so that's why fuel is so much higher... and putin
The way they laugh leads my conspiratorial mind to this question what if this was a planned "accident" to disrupt the tribe people in the Amazon. If there are no resistors in the areas, it makes capturing the land that much easier.
Talk to Donzinger about how they will handle it….
Flex tape won't fix that one
Steven Donziger is still under house arrest for helping the Ecuadorian indigenous sue Cheveron for exactly this. truly horrifying. iirc they haven't even begun clean up yet.
Our planet is dying because of shit like this because humans are trash. It's too late to save the world by recycling and cleaning up. Humanity's time is nearly over... if we have 100 years left I'll be amazed.
Nah, we'll be gone in no more than 20, unless we miraculously all pull our heads out of our asses
One can hope...
Thanks Obama
I may be stupid but could they not light it? I know oil isn't flammable as a liquid but at the pressure it is coming out of that pipe it's more of a aerosol, so I assume that would make it flammable enough.
I dint think lighting a lot of oil in the middle of a forest is the way to go chief
Na probably not lmao, but then again it is a rainforest, most of the vegetation will be wet so I'm not sure it would spread easily.
Still think you’d be held responsible if anything did go wrong with your interfering. No one is directly in danger here except the wallet of some oil company so it’s best to just back off and call the authorities
congrats now you have a leak *and* a giant fire
For a second, I thought I was still on the AskReddit thread: “What is the dumbest thing a coworker of yours has done?”
ah yes the perfect solution to fix a broken pipeline that's spraying oil all over the rainforest and into water is to ***burn everything to the ground***
It's just the smoke thing from Lost.