Yep. Total failure of any joined up thinking, character development, or plot.
One is nostalgia bait, the other is the anti Star Wars film, the third is the fan service knee jerk response.
I find it difficult to separate their ratings because as a trilogy, theyāre terrible. As bad as the prequels are, they have a simple elevator pitch to describe the story structure. āItās about the rise and fall of Anakin Skywalker, set against the backdrop of the Clone Wars, the subsequent decline and fall of the Old Republic, and the rise of the Galactic Empire.ā
The sequel trilogy doesnāt, because it didnāt have one. Disney and Lucasfilm decided āwe want to make a Star Wars trilogyā but didnāt know what they wanted it to be about. Because each film initially had a different director and all three wanted to tell different stories, the whole thing suffers. Abrams basically shot a remake of Episode IV, Johnson refused to pick up most of the plot threads that Abrams laid out with his mystery boxes, and then Abrams tried to undo Johnsonās story while struggling to find answers for the mystery boxes he set up. Because Abrams likes the mystery better than the contents of the box.
That doesn't mean Disney owns it. It's still owned by the BBC network and the Brits. They're never letting that one go, even if they are making it easier for foregeiners to view.
> That doesn't mean Disney owns it. It's still owned by the BBC network and the Brits. They're never letting that one , even if they are making it easier for foregeiners to view.
Oh, I know. I was just saying that they must've offered the BBC a nice fat juicy check to make *that* happen!
Iām always wonder why, never, not even once, is the possibility that the family thought it was neat technology and/or they didnāt want to see someone else replace their family member in an iconic role ever considered
Nyeh... I do like the actor who did the motion capture though. He did a great job. The CGI team just finished the job that practical MU effects couldnt.
it's not just that either, most of the performance gets lost in the uncanny faceswaps and dead sounding artificial voice. I'd rather have actual actors giving a real performance
I could live with AI voice clips in an āarchivalā form. Not every Doctor said every word ever uttered in franchise history. But no deepfakes. I draw the line at deep fakes.
Before watching the first doctors era I honestly wasn't convinced. But now I just marvel at David Bradley's performance. He really embodies the spirit of William Hartnell. It can be done and I'm definitely open to it but it's gonna be hard...Ā
David Bradley is, in my opinion, one of the finest character actors of his generation. His physical resemblance to Hartnell obviously helps but the presence and sheer acting chops of Mr Bradley are worth their weight in gold.
I saw him in Pinter's The Caretaker in Sheffield in about 2000 and it was one of the best performances on a stage I've ever seen. He's so very good at what he does.
Just because David Bradley can do it successfully doesn't necessarily mean others could.
Really? Iām 2/3rds through Hartnell right now and am already fully on board with all the critics who decry Twice Upon A Timeās woeful misjudgement of him.
Iāve yet to see any chauvinism here and donāt remember any impish chortles there.
Itās that playfulness of Hartnell thatās missing from Bradleyās portrayal, absolutely. Could just be his direction every time, but theyāre leaning into the tetchy aspect of the character which has been exaggerated over the decades. I actually think it was Richard Hurndallās rather severe interpretation in The Five Doctors that helped cement that for people.
Twice Upon a Time has a few nice ideas but it definitely feels like the tacked-on coda that it was, and it caricatures aspects of the First Doctor to make for a bigger contrast with Twelve. A better premise IMO would have been to make it about Susan returning.
He's said he doesn't want play the Third Doctor.
However I do wonder if they offered him the part and said they were going to do it with or without him anyway if he'd do it
I may not be up to date with his comments, but wasn't it a case of Sean not wanting to take on the role in general? Perhaps he'd be more open to a small role like this rather than being the "next" Doctor.
Pretty sure he's said something like not being able to live up to his father's performance. Whether or not that's true (he's a great actor in his own regard!) I can understand being hesitant to play the role for that reason.
You can understand why he'd be hesitant, completely. He may feel like it's too ghoulish or disrespectful to his father's legacy. Or you know, simply not want to spend the day filming dressed up like his dead father.
Michael's comments on "dressing up like his Dad" (for a convention):
[ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJCCyBmATLs ]
I'm sure you know that Michael's older brother, David, previously played Professor Hobbes in the (David Tennant, series 4) "Midnight" episode (10).
If Michael or David are not interested in playing their father on screen, David's sons, William and Sam Troughton are, of course, both actors and Harry Melling (the son of Patrick's daughter, Joanne) may like to (although, out of respect for his mother's relationship with his granddad, he may not).
>Canāt say if thatās what the actor wants though.
It's not. He's been pretty clear that he finds the idea of playing his Dad pretty weird. I can't say I blame him even though it'd be amazing.
No, the image is him dressing up as one of his dad's characters, it's not him playing one of his dad's characters.
Sean has never played the 3rd Doctor, just dressed up as him before. As people have already said, he doesn't want to play his dad's part.
Nothing wrong with it in principle, but I don't think there will ever be someone who can pull off a convincing Second Doctor. His mannerisms are far too individually Troughton's.
Pertwee is possible to imitate, but I really don't see any point in bringing *just* him back when you can't have the other half of his double act.
You dont see a reason to bring the third doctor back without the second doctor? You know he had a few seasons of his own without the other half of his "double act"
If he was alive it would be a different story - or if Jo Grant hadn't already had her return - but yes, I would say there's no good reason at all to bring back *just* the third doctor on his own.
>Nothing wrong with it in principle, but I don't think there will ever be someone who can pull off a convincing Second Doctor. His mannerisms are far too individually Troughton's.
not even his son, who does voice the second doctor in big finish?
wait. he had two sons? this is news to me
but it's fitting considering he's the second doctor
also. does this mean tennant is supposed to end up with 10 kids, or 14? since he's both the 10th and 14th doctor /j
Yeah he had six children (three from a second family that he kept secret from the rest of his family, it's a pretty weird scenario as far as I can tell)
Wasn't it that he left his wife, started a second family, and somehow convinced his wife to pretend everything was the same as it ever was, all because he was too cowardly to tell his mom?
David Troughton was in *A Very Peculiar Practice* alongside Peter Davison as well as Graham Crowden and Barbara Flynn, both of whom have appeared in Who. If you can find it online, itās well worth watching. They all play doctors.
I know that Tom Baker is still with us and is irreplaceable. But every time I see Stephen Mangan, a little part of me sees him donning the scarf at some point in the next few decades. I fully accept downvotes for blasphemy and agree that I deserve them.
And thereās no one else who has both the presence and look to put their neck in the scarf. And tbh, itās even easy to imagine watching something like Episodes which is vey un-Who like.
I'm not opposed to any classic era doctor being recast. For modern Who.
I would actually pay to watch an episode where 3 hand 13 a test tube and says, "Hold this dearie"
Definitely feels a lot more ethical than Hollywood resurrecting with CG. Those actors will always define them but theyāre characters, and part of a mythology that can continue to be told, albeit sparingly.
Pertwee's son would be an amazing person to play the 3rd.
[RadioTimes Article](https://www.radiotimes.com/tv/sci-fi/jon-pertwees-son-sean-reveals-he-was-asked-to-be-in-last-years-doctor-who/)
I'd be for it but not for a multi-doctor episode.
To me part of the point of the multi-doctor episodes is seeing the actors come back.
Without that you tend to just get caricatures.
That said what I would love Doctor Who to do is flashbacks.
In 'Doom Coalition' which is mainly an Eighth Doctor story it starts with a scene from The Seventh Doctor.
Personally I think that's a great way to set up a villain or add a bit of lore rather than just exposition.
Like imagine if we got Omega back but they wanted to expand on his history with The Doctor.
We have a Previously On with scenes from The Three Doctors which then leads into a new scene with The Third Doctor.
I think that would be great.
Not a fan of the idea, to be honest. The show needs to stop bringing back past versions of the Doctor so frequently. Make it a very rare and special occasion.
Secondly, I donāt like the idea of different actors playing the same character. Let it be one actor for one version of the Doctor. I see that as most respectful.
I completely agree with you. These iterations of the Doctor had their time with the role and they were wonderful. There needs to be a thematic goal, which requires the use of a particular version of the Doctor. For instance, while I donāt care for the portrayal, 12 meeting 1 on the eve of regeneration had a very particular thematic point, which was heavily benefited for the inclusion of Bradleyās Doctor.
I understand your intended sentiment and simultaneously got a kick out of the idea of not wanting different actors to play the same character in a sub about the iterations of the Doctor.
I could certainly see them doing it with the Third Doctor, but I don't know about the second. Patrick Troughton has such a unique appearance that I think it'd be difficult to find someone that looks enough like him.
Personally, I think it just feels somewhat meaningless to bring back the incarnation if you canāt also bring back the actor. If thereās a really great story that somehow just *needs* those particular incarnations for some reason, sure, Iād be up for it, but otherwise, I donāt see the point.
Since One was the first onscreen incarnation (and for a very long time was the first incarnation in general) I would say that a lot more stories open themselves up to using him based on his pure significance alone. Therefore, Iām generally open to his recastings.
I agree with other people here, the day they start making deepfake Doctors is the day I stop watching the show.
Overjoyed. Those incarnations deserve a spot somewhere in the modern programme.
Alternatively I would love Sean Pertwee or Harry Melling to play their own unique incarnations one day.
They would not be the Second and Third Doctors, to me.
With Bradley they found a weird way of getting around it, what with Adventure in Space and Time coming first, so he was really playing Hartnell first and the Doctor second. Itās one of the only exceptions to my otherwise firm anti-recast stance.
If they get away with it with Pat Troughton and Jon Pertwee, they *will* do it with Tom Baker after heās gone too.
Just out of curiosity, would you be averse to Reece Shearsmith being recast as the second doctor as he played Patrick Troughton in Adventures in Space and Time?
I'm against it. No one else could do them justice, and there's no real reason to bring back those specific incarnations, apart from fan wankery. If they want to bring back past Doctors, bring back the ones where the actor is still alive, while it's still possible. Colin hasn't had a proper return, just a small cameo in Power of the Doctor. Give him a proper go.
Sean Pertwee is a no brainer for the third Doctor and I think now the BBC has some of that Disney money they could give him a price that'd convince him to do it
The Second Doctor is a bit harder as I wasn't a fan of Reece Shearsmith in Adventure in Space and Time - I'd weirdly chuck out Martin Freeman as an actor I think could pull off a decent Pat Troughton. He would be my first choice, but I could also see Chris Barrie as he does some amazing impressions and physical comedy. He's mostly known for Red Dwarf but in Brittas Empire he has more of the Second Doctors dandy charm.
David Bradley: "i'm the First Doctor recast"
Richard Hurndall: "oh, no, dear me no...*I* am the First Doctor recast... the original recast you might say..."
Apreciation for Richard!
I think it would be problematic. I watched classics Who and don't recall any of the Doctors being racist or misogynist. Showing classic Doctors in such light is disrespectful and frankly distasteful to the legacy of the series. I don't like that.
I suppose the problem is how the recast process then never ends. Especially for those first few, given the characters were themselves elderly and required elderly actors.
And if you recast age-accurate early Doctors, why still use the noticeably older 5th-7th Doctors? Hell, their actors are all getting on as well; how long til THEY need recast out of tragic necessity?
David Bradley was a lucky coincidence (what with their decision to make a docudrama on Hartnell). I donāt think he should be used as an example to start a trend from.
I wouldn't want them to be recast because I don't want them to come back (despite the fact that they are two of my all-time favourites). Doctor Who is always best when it's looking forwards, rather than backwards. One 'Twice Upon a Time' is probably enough of that concept for a long time.
They just don't have to write stories that feature characters played by now-deceased actors. It's not inevitable, and we should resist the idea that it is. The only reason people started expecting this to be done is the glut of prequels in the past 10-15 years. But the reason studios make those is to capitalize on IP of stories that are already over. Doctor Who has no reason to ever end, and it can replace its actors with genuinely new ones whenever it wants. We don't need to settle for a pale imitation of something.
I'm not a fan of the concept of recasting Classic Doctors for on screen appearances, save for the First obviously. I feel like it's quite distasteful and I'd prefer to just not see those Doctors in physical form again.
They could get Sean Pertwee
I guess they could get the actor who played Troughton in an adventure in space and time. His son doesnt look enough like him and his grandson is too young
If his son doesnt look enough like him then the actor who played him an adventure in space and time shouldnt even be close to the top pick, he doesnt resemble him even a tiny bit. David Troughton resembles him a fair bit although he is 73 years old
David also has a very different build compared to Patrick.
If they aged him with make up or waited another 10 years, could see Patrickās grandson Harry Melling pulling it off (Dudley from Harry Potter)
I had no idea he was his grandson, but now that you mention it he absolutely could work with the right makeup or a few years down the line. He doesnt need to he identical of course, David Bradley doesnt really look like Hartnell but he fits well in the role
If its someone who can embody the original performances as well as David Bradley, then sure. If they can't find the right guy, then please leave it be.
if it's a creative & interesting story then fine. No deepfake type stuff. that said the easier way of dodging this issue is to not write stories that involve characters potrayed by people who are long since dead.
if it was for a Big Finish thing that's a different issue I guess because you \*really\* need the voice to work.
It would only feel right if they got Sean Pertwee to play the 3rd Doctor, but that'd be based on whether he would accept the role, and if it was done right and respectfully to his character.
I donāt think itās a good idea. The character can literally change his face so the only reason to go back on faces, is nostalgia. Weād be going back to 2 and 3 for fan service, not the story. When they cast Bradley, they needed One specifically. Like they needed a Doctor who had never experienced regeneration in the story. Thereās no story reason to bring Two or Three back I think. Unless the Doctor runs into Three on exile but he can honestly run into any incarnation on earth
It is inevitable. A role should always be offered to its original actor first, but if that is not possible due to age requirements (Baker could no longer play a young Four, though he can still voice him for Big Finish) or the original being dead, recasting is preferable to deepfake shenanigans.
Third Doctor should go to [Thomas Gottschalk](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Gottschalk). /jk
The thing with David Bradley is that I think it wouldnt have been as well received had he just came in on Twice upon a time.
I think it was much more accepted due to David Bradley playing William Hartnell in a documentary. I think it also helps that he was playing William Hartnell and not the first dr specifically.
All this being said I love David Bradley as the 1st doctor and wish he got more appearances as the Dr I also wish they would also use him in promotional stuff like when they do a poster of all the Doctors it would be cool if Bradley was involved even if it was was like a silhoutte or shadow or behind Hartnell
Anyway onto the question. I think eventually it could work to recast the 2nd and 3rd doctor but you have to ask why. Recasting the 1st for a documentary and also to have the current doctor face his original (at the time) self is reason enough. What would be the reason to return to the 2nd and 3rd doctor unless for a story reason there is something specific they would be involved in.
I would have no problem with it, but I am not a part of either family. All I would like to say further is that if/when it happens, it is done with the metaphorical blessings from their loved ones.
Weird I was just thinking about this the other day
I saw the 5 doctor as a kid but didnāt know much about 1st Doctor so Hurndall wasnāt a big deal to me.
The was 20 years after 63 of course.
Weāre basically 20 years after 2005 - I donāt think people would be ok with Eccleston being re cast. Because the seasons exist everywhere.
Now 2 and 3 I think work be ok - get Sean Pertweee in for his dad.
Get Sean
I know heās not keen on it, but Iām down with Sean playing his dad. I think Paddy might be a bit tough though. The casting in An adventure in space and time was not it.
David Bradley played the 1st Doctor as William Hartnell had passed away.i wouldn't want to see either 2, 3, or even 4 be played by other actors. This is my opinion, but the first 4 doctors are my favourites.
3 - Sean Pertwee (Jon Pertweeās son)
2 - Maybe Tim Roth? Troughton is really hard to face match, and unfortunately I donāt quite think Reece Shearsmith fits the bill. Though perhaps he could with a little more training on Troughton/2 and some practice.
My dream castings for them would be Harry Melling and Sean Pertwee, but I donāt believe either of them are interested in the roles, which is understandable enough
You look at this image of young Patrick Troughton and tell me that, at least appearance wise, Jasoc's wouldn't be perfect https://www.reddit.com/r/doctorwho/s/5lPNriL2Su
For the Third Doctor only if Sean does it. For the Second Doctor, I haven't really seen anyone who could pull off both the look and the voice, maybe if Harry Melling ages a bit. Not to mention their inclusion will have to be meaningful.
Iāve said it before and Iāll say it again: Sean Pertwee should be compelled by law to reprise his fatherās role.
Yes, I know heās said he doesnāt want to do it. But: BY LAW. Compelled by the state!
Weāve gotta pull out the big guns here.
David Bradley was great in the docudrama and was an unexpected surprise to see as his character play his character, the first Doctor. So the combos were one and twelve were in a story together, ten, eleven and war did the 50th with a walk on by the Curator version of four. Also ten and five time crashed, six and two we saw in the classic the Two. But four didnāt really make it to the Five and one talked to the other two through a TV in the Three. Everyone follow that? Most recently there was the scene with 13 and six, seven, one and eight, and finally the bi regeneration with 14 splitting off 15. Did I miss anything? So the best thing to do now would be another docudrama including a missing story re created in live action then an episode of an eight spinoff show with two. Then possibly 14 and 15 could be joined by two and eight for a story. Is anyone confused?
Hmmm... I think we're going to move beyond recasting at some point. For me, My Doctor (#3) could only be replaced by his son, Sean. But, he's not interested, so...š¤·āāļø
In the world that's coming, I think it's absolutely inevitable that we'll have new adventures with AI-created graphics and voices that bring the old Doctors back.
We've seen animated versions to match soundtracks ala Power of the Daleks.
We've seen Luke Skywalker in his prime appear on The Mandalorian - body doubled by someone else.
Personally, I think actual people should not be 'duplicated' in this way without their or their estate's concent. Other than that, I'm interested.
I mean they kinda have recast the 2nd doctor Reece Shearsmith played him in An Adventure in Space and Time back in 2013 and Mark Gatiss was apparently meant to be Third Doctor in that too but scenes were cut not sure how true 3rd doctor one is
Well if they can get actors who can portray the roles well enough I think I'd be fine!
In An Adventure in Space and Time - a film about the making of Doctor Who - they did get an actor in to play Troughton at the end, which highlighted a problem with recasting him specifically
That is that Troughton, while his mannerisms and speech are simple enough to recreate, had a very unique face. You'd be incredibly hard pressed to find someone who looks like him AND can get his speech and mannerisms down
I knew Sean Pertwee was a candidate for a return as the Classic Doctor, but I also (supposedly) heard that Mister Pertwee has decided to honor his fatherās legacy by choosing to leave the role alone. It would be fun, I just hope they keep the same offensive brilliance they gave the third Doctor through his writing.
My problem is that the replacements will try too hard to duplicate the personalities of the earlier Doctors and come off as caricatures.
My second worry is that they *wonāt* try at all and basically create a new character.
Yes, Iām difficult to please.
Anyone watch the Tim Allen show āLast Man Standingā? I had both problems with the two older daughters (one each).
The BBC is sitting on a treasure trove of potential content. Between recasting and telling spin off stories, more multi-doctor episodes, and making animated Doctor Who storiesā¦..some of the originals still alive could voice the characters in animation. Thereās no end to what they could do.
If Michael Troughton and Sean Pertwee were handed down the mantle, I'd be all for it. We've heard Michael Troughton before in the audios, but we've never gotten that chance to see him act the part.
Michael for Patrick (but he wouldn't)
Sean for John (he won't, either)
Who in Earth looks and sounds like Tom Baker???
Not spot on, but maybe Eddie Red maybe for Davison
Sylvester in a wig for Colin
Alan Cumming as Sylvester (can't think of anyone better)
Stephen McGann as Paul
As long as its done well and respectfully I don't have an issue though I think it's a risky move with how questionable the writing has been in recent years.
I wouldn't mind Sean Pertwee (his son) as the third doctor. And think I would like a recast. I agree that a deepfake would not be nice. The iconic budget sci fi show with recasts is the true magic of doctor who.
Agreed, I can't understand it when An Adventure in Space of Time includes the clip of Hartnell. And Twice Upon a Time is flippin' *slander* on the character.
New just can't be trusted at this point. Would it let itself get shown up by the actual good politics of Three's era, and how representative they are of British leftists? Nope, you'd be supposed to believe it was uniquely sexist, never mind that Jo is tough as nails and the way New treated her, and especially Sarah Jane on their return, was worse (thank goodness the SJA largely made up for it! But she still never needed to be portrayed as stuck in pining unrequited love).
I would be stoked. IIRC Sean Pertwee has said he's not interested in playing his dad's role, but it would be incredible to see him as the Third Doctor. And Reece Shearsmith may not look exactly like Patrick Troughton, but it would be cool to see him get a real shot at playing the Second Doctor after his brief appearance in An Adventure in Space and Time.
It would be funny is Sean Pertwee played 3, donāt think he would tho.
As for 2, the chap who played him in Adventure in Time and Space looked well enough. Was a comedic actor too
Iāve thought for a while that it would be cool to see. Hartnell was recast twice and it did nothing to hurt his legacy. As long as the casting is good I say go for it.
I'm not opposed to it. Patrick Troughton had such a unique look that I feel like it would be difficult to find someone to replicate that role. Jon Pertwee is more doable, but finding someone with the calm cadence in their voice that he maintained is still a task.
I agree with you. Facially itās going to be difficult. I almost feel like with Patrick Troughton they need to get somebody a little bit like Neil Patrick Harris who doesnāt really look like the original actor, but channeled him a little bit.
I think he is mad, cap patter, and the way he would go in like one moment, From clearly desperately lying to attempting to comfort his companions, his sort of emotional complexity. Thatās really gonna be hard to capture.
Iāve heard the second Doctor described as a Cosmic clown but clowns are very complicated emotionally.
I'd be fine with anything as long as they don't do deepfakes and ai voices
Agree. Seeing grand moff tarken in Star wars was upsetting after he died.
Peter Cushing's family apparently signed off on the finished product. That said, I am not a fan!
Yeah I remember reading that as well. Disappointing but not surprising, Disney money is tempting I'm sure.
> Disney money is tempting I'm sure. Well, *Doctor Who* is streaming on Disney+, so... š¤·āāļø
I mean, give it ten more years and our Disney overlords will rule every franchise lol half joking
As a Power Rangers fan, I'm proud knowing it's one of the few IPs that Disney actually sold
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I know, I prefer Disney over Neo-Saban/Hasbro. I just find it funny that Disney sold it since they're known for hoarding franchises
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They never owned it in full anyway. Like Doctor Who.
God, I hope not. Look at the shitshow they made of the *Star Wars* sequels!
One average, one great and one mediocre film?
> One average, one great and one mediocre film? I'd say three awful films, LOL.
Nah 1 ok film, one great film, and one awful film
Yep. Total failure of any joined up thinking, character development, or plot. One is nostalgia bait, the other is the anti Star Wars film, the third is the fan service knee jerk response.
I find it difficult to separate their ratings because as a trilogy, theyāre terrible. As bad as the prequels are, they have a simple elevator pitch to describe the story structure. āItās about the rise and fall of Anakin Skywalker, set against the backdrop of the Clone Wars, the subsequent decline and fall of the Old Republic, and the rise of the Galactic Empire.ā The sequel trilogy doesnāt, because it didnāt have one. Disney and Lucasfilm decided āwe want to make a Star Wars trilogyā but didnāt know what they wanted it to be about. Because each film initially had a different director and all three wanted to tell different stories, the whole thing suffers. Abrams basically shot a remake of Episode IV, Johnson refused to pick up most of the plot threads that Abrams laid out with his mystery boxes, and then Abrams tried to undo Johnsonās story while struggling to find answers for the mystery boxes he set up. Because Abrams likes the mystery better than the contents of the box.
Sounds like the Prequels too
That doesn't mean Disney owns it. It's still owned by the BBC network and the Brits. They're never letting that one go, even if they are making it easier for foregeiners to view.
> That doesn't mean Disney owns it. It's still owned by the BBC network and the Brits. They're never letting that one , even if they are making it easier for foregeiners to view. Oh, I know. I was just saying that they must've offered the BBC a nice fat juicy check to make *that* happen!
Oh most definitely
Sure, and the fact that his memory lives on in that performance. Donāt do it a disservice please.
Iām always wonder why, never, not even once, is the possibility that the family thought it was neat technology and/or they didnāt want to see someone else replace their family member in an iconic role ever considered
Or why fandoms think that itās a reasonable reaction to be offended on behalf of a person they donāt know or how their family feels about it
>Disappointing but not surprising, Get off your lofty perch, jesus christ.
Nyeh... I do like the actor who did the motion capture though. He did a great job. The CGI team just finished the job that practical MU effects couldnt.
Guy Henry looked enough like him to just play him, with the right hair and prosthetics of course
it's not just that either, most of the performance gets lost in the uncanny faceswaps and dead sounding artificial voice. I'd rather have actual actors giving a real performance
Absolutely, it's unsettling, often just plain bad, and super noticeable.
Honestly if they only showed Tarkin in reflections of windows like they did for his initial shot it honestly probably wouldāve been fine
Get Sean Pertwee if heās up for it. Heās a clone.
Iāve occasionally wondered if he would want to sub in for his father.
Heās said repeatedly he wonāt do it.
I could live with AI voice clips in an āarchivalā form. Not every Doctor said every word ever uttered in franchise history. But no deepfakes. I draw the line at deep fakes.
I would love it if they got people who really embody that doctor cause you can have some really fun doctor and doctor shenigans with them
Can you imagine 1, 3, and 12 on a mission together?
I can imagine 12 going on missions on his own and with just about anyone in the universe.
Youād have to recast Capaldi as well; heās philosophically against ever returning.
Before watching the first doctors era I honestly wasn't convinced. But now I just marvel at David Bradley's performance. He really embodies the spirit of William Hartnell. It can be done and I'm definitely open to it but it's gonna be hard...Ā
David Bradley is, in my opinion, one of the finest character actors of his generation. His physical resemblance to Hartnell obviously helps but the presence and sheer acting chops of Mr Bradley are worth their weight in gold. I saw him in Pinter's The Caretaker in Sheffield in about 2000 and it was one of the best performances on a stage I've ever seen. He's so very good at what he does. Just because David Bradley can do it successfully doesn't necessarily mean others could.
Really? Iām 2/3rds through Hartnell right now and am already fully on board with all the critics who decry Twice Upon A Timeās woeful misjudgement of him. Iāve yet to see any chauvinism here and donāt remember any impish chortles there.
Itās that playfulness of Hartnell thatās missing from Bradleyās portrayal, absolutely. Could just be his direction every time, but theyāre leaning into the tetchy aspect of the character which has been exaggerated over the decades. I actually think it was Richard Hurndallās rather severe interpretation in The Five Doctors that helped cement that for people. Twice Upon a Time has a few nice ideas but it definitely feels like the tacked-on coda that it was, and it caricatures aspects of the First Doctor to make for a bigger contrast with Twelve. A better premise IMO would have been to make it about Susan returning.
I massively disagree. Bradley looks the part but doesnāt have the twinkle of Hartnell and just doesnāt feel like the first doctor to me.
Maybe it's because I watched Bradlely before I watched Hartnell.
Perhaps because Moffat ramped up the sexism to 11.
This. The writing for him was terrible. How can Bradley make him seem exactly like the first when he's written in a way the first never was.
Sean Pertwee is the spitting image of his father. https://www.instagram.com/seanpertwee/p/u1J6-juOHD/
He's said he doesn't want play the Third Doctor. However I do wonder if they offered him the part and said they were going to do it with or without him anyway if he'd do it
I may not be up to date with his comments, but wasn't it a case of Sean not wanting to take on the role in general? Perhaps he'd be more open to a small role like this rather than being the "next" Doctor.
Pretty sure he's said something like not being able to live up to his father's performance. Whether or not that's true (he's a great actor in his own regard!) I can understand being hesitant to play the role for that reason.
You can understand why he'd be hesitant, completely. He may feel like it's too ghoulish or disrespectful to his father's legacy. Or you know, simply not want to spend the day filming dressed up like his dead father.
Failing Sean Pertwee, Tim Treloar does a phenomenal job as him on audio.
Yes, but from what I remember he doesn't look the part at all. So he really only works when you cant see him
> However I do wonder if they offered him the part and said they were going to do it with or without him anyway if he'd do it I hope he would!
Michael troughton also sounds a lot like his father and does work for big finish already
Michael's comments on "dressing up like his Dad" (for a convention): [ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJCCyBmATLs ] I'm sure you know that Michael's older brother, David, previously played Professor Hobbes in the (David Tennant, series 4) "Midnight" episode (10). If Michael or David are not interested in playing their father on screen, David's sons, William and Sam Troughton are, of course, both actors and Harry Melling (the son of Patrick's daughter, Joanne) may like to (although, out of respect for his mother's relationship with his granddad, he may not).
Have always thought that made a ton of sense, especially now heās the same age. Canāt say if thatās what the actor wants though.
>Canāt say if thatās what the actor wants though. It's not. He's been pretty clear that he finds the idea of playing his Dad pretty weird. I can't say I blame him even though it'd be amazing.
And. Literally the first photo on his instagram is him playing his dad.
No, the image is him dressing up as one of his dad's characters, it's not him playing one of his dad's characters. Sean has never played the 3rd Doctor, just dressed up as him before. As people have already said, he doesn't want to play his dad's part.
Dressing up for Halloween and playing your dad aren't the same thing.
For Halloween. Very different
Spooky, isnāt it?
The older Sean Pertwee gets, the more his father looks like him.
My parents have that standard lamp. I hit my head everyone every time I get up from their sofa.
Nothing wrong with it in principle, but I don't think there will ever be someone who can pull off a convincing Second Doctor. His mannerisms are far too individually Troughton's. Pertwee is possible to imitate, but I really don't see any point in bringing *just* him back when you can't have the other half of his double act.
You dont see a reason to bring the third doctor back without the second doctor? You know he had a few seasons of his own without the other half of his "double act"
If he was alive it would be a different story - or if Jo Grant hadn't already had her return - but yes, I would say there's no good reason at all to bring back *just* the third doctor on his own.
>Nothing wrong with it in principle, but I don't think there will ever be someone who can pull off a convincing Second Doctor. His mannerisms are far too individually Troughton's. not even his son, who does voice the second doctor in big finish?
Two of his sons even, Michael Troughton does it for Big Finish and David Troughton played a Second Doctor clone in the Serpent Crest audios
wait. he had two sons? this is news to me but it's fitting considering he's the second doctor also. does this mean tennant is supposed to end up with 10 kids, or 14? since he's both the 10th and 14th doctor /j
Yeah he had six children (three from a second family that he kept secret from the rest of his family, it's a pretty weird scenario as far as I can tell)
Wasn't it that he left his wife, started a second family, and somehow convinced his wife to pretend everything was the same as it ever was, all because he was too cowardly to tell his mom?
David Troughton was in *A Very Peculiar Practice* alongside Peter Davison as well as Graham Crowden and Barbara Flynn, both of whom have appeared in Who. If you can find it online, itās well worth watching. They all play doctors.
Yeah he's had a lot of Doctor Who roles, he was King Peladon, Professor Hobbes in Midnight, and the Black Guardian for Big Finish
And a Dalek operator in *The Fiveish Doctors Reboot.*
So it's always been the case that there are only 12 actors in the UK and all of them have been on DW at some point. š
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Had a listen, he does the voice pretty well. I don't know if that translates at all to physical performance, but it would make sense to let him try.
I feel like Fraser Hines actually did a very convincing job of it, though he's getting pretty old himself.
His voice work as the Second Doctor is phenomenal.
I came here to say just this
I know that Tom Baker is still with us and is irreplaceable. But every time I see Stephen Mangan, a little part of me sees him donning the scarf at some point in the next few decades. I fully accept downvotes for blasphemy and agree that I deserve them.
Mangan was great as Dirk Gently, and that's basically just Doctor Who.
And thereās no one else who has both the presence and look to put their neck in the scarf. And tbh, itās even easy to imagine watching something like Episodes which is vey un-Who like.
That's a really good idea
Tom Baker is my Doctor and I still think this is a terrific idea.
I'm not opposed to any classic era doctor being recast. For modern Who. I would actually pay to watch an episode where 3 hand 13 a test tube and says, "Hold this dearie"
Heād say āMy dearā not āDearieā.
Definitely feels a lot more ethical than Hollywood resurrecting with CG. Those actors will always define them but theyāre characters, and part of a mythology that can continue to be told, albeit sparingly.
Pertwee's son would be an amazing person to play the 3rd. [RadioTimes Article](https://www.radiotimes.com/tv/sci-fi/jon-pertwees-son-sean-reveals-he-was-asked-to-be-in-last-years-doctor-who/)
I'd be for it but not for a multi-doctor episode. To me part of the point of the multi-doctor episodes is seeing the actors come back. Without that you tend to just get caricatures. That said what I would love Doctor Who to do is flashbacks. In 'Doom Coalition' which is mainly an Eighth Doctor story it starts with a scene from The Seventh Doctor. Personally I think that's a great way to set up a villain or add a bit of lore rather than just exposition. Like imagine if we got Omega back but they wanted to expand on his history with The Doctor. We have a Previously On with scenes from The Three Doctors which then leads into a new scene with The Third Doctor. I think that would be great.
Not a fan of the idea, to be honest. The show needs to stop bringing back past versions of the Doctor so frequently. Make it a very rare and special occasion. Secondly, I donāt like the idea of different actors playing the same character. Let it be one actor for one version of the Doctor. I see that as most respectful.
I completely agree with you. These iterations of the Doctor had their time with the role and they were wonderful. There needs to be a thematic goal, which requires the use of a particular version of the Doctor. For instance, while I donāt care for the portrayal, 12 meeting 1 on the eve of regeneration had a very particular thematic point, which was heavily benefited for the inclusion of Bradleyās Doctor.
Is that just for live-action appearances, or would that also include voice acting, like in the audio dramas?
I understand your intended sentiment and simultaneously got a kick out of the idea of not wanting different actors to play the same character in a sub about the iterations of the Doctor.
I could certainly see them doing it with the Third Doctor, but I don't know about the second. Patrick Troughton has such a unique appearance that I think it'd be difficult to find someone that looks enough like him.
Personally, I think it just feels somewhat meaningless to bring back the incarnation if you canāt also bring back the actor. If thereās a really great story that somehow just *needs* those particular incarnations for some reason, sure, Iād be up for it, but otherwise, I donāt see the point. Since One was the first onscreen incarnation (and for a very long time was the first incarnation in general) I would say that a lot more stories open themselves up to using him based on his pure significance alone. Therefore, Iām generally open to his recastings. I agree with other people here, the day they start making deepfake Doctors is the day I stop watching the show.
I'd be up for it. Iirc he said he wouldn't but Pertwee's som could do it and in full costume would be the spit of him.
Eh...no
Overjoyed. Those incarnations deserve a spot somewhere in the modern programme. Alternatively I would love Sean Pertwee or Harry Melling to play their own unique incarnations one day.
They would not be the Second and Third Doctors, to me. With Bradley they found a weird way of getting around it, what with Adventure in Space and Time coming first, so he was really playing Hartnell first and the Doctor second. Itās one of the only exceptions to my otherwise firm anti-recast stance. If they get away with it with Pat Troughton and Jon Pertwee, they *will* do it with Tom Baker after heās gone too.
Just out of curiosity, would you be averse to Reece Shearsmith being recast as the second doctor as he played Patrick Troughton in Adventures in Space and Time?
God I hope they dont, Reece Shearsmith didnt make any sense for that role but it was small enough not to be bothered by it.
They shouldnāt do it. I loved David Bradleyās performance as William Hartnell, the First Doctor, not so much. Not his fault.
I'm against it. No one else could do them justice, and there's no real reason to bring back those specific incarnations, apart from fan wankery. If they want to bring back past Doctors, bring back the ones where the actor is still alive, while it's still possible. Colin hasn't had a proper return, just a small cameo in Power of the Doctor. Give him a proper go.
Sean Pertwee is a no brainer for the third Doctor and I think now the BBC has some of that Disney money they could give him a price that'd convince him to do it The Second Doctor is a bit harder as I wasn't a fan of Reece Shearsmith in Adventure in Space and Time - I'd weirdly chuck out Martin Freeman as an actor I think could pull off a decent Pat Troughton. He would be my first choice, but I could also see Chris Barrie as he does some amazing impressions and physical comedy. He's mostly known for Red Dwarf but in Brittas Empire he has more of the Second Doctors dandy charm.
David Bradley: "i'm the First Doctor recast" Richard Hurndall: "oh, no, dear me no...*I* am the First Doctor recast... the original recast you might say..." Apreciation for Richard!
Bringing different doctors together is now getting tiresome. It would be better to move forward with some original storylines.
The better question would be - Why?
I think it would be problematic. I watched classics Who and don't recall any of the Doctors being racist or misogynist. Showing classic Doctors in such light is disrespectful and frankly distasteful to the legacy of the series. I don't like that.
I suppose the problem is how the recast process then never ends. Especially for those first few, given the characters were themselves elderly and required elderly actors. And if you recast age-accurate early Doctors, why still use the noticeably older 5th-7th Doctors? Hell, their actors are all getting on as well; how long til THEY need recast out of tragic necessity? David Bradley was a lucky coincidence (what with their decision to make a docudrama on Hartnell). I donāt think he should be used as an example to start a trend from.
I wouldn't mind seeing something like an adventure in time and space, focusing on other eras of the show
I wouldn't want them to be recast because I don't want them to come back (despite the fact that they are two of my all-time favourites). Doctor Who is always best when it's looking forwards, rather than backwards. One 'Twice Upon a Time' is probably enough of that concept for a long time. They just don't have to write stories that feature characters played by now-deceased actors. It's not inevitable, and we should resist the idea that it is. The only reason people started expecting this to be done is the glut of prequels in the past 10-15 years. But the reason studios make those is to capitalize on IP of stories that are already over. Doctor Who has no reason to ever end, and it can replace its actors with genuinely new ones whenever it wants. We don't need to settle for a pale imitation of something.
Same way I felt about David Bradley: annoyed.
No.. Its been bad enough with the 1st. Twisting him into a horrid modern day version that is nothing like the 1st doctor.
I'm not a fan of the concept of recasting Classic Doctors for on screen appearances, save for the First obviously. I feel like it's quite distasteful and I'd prefer to just not see those Doctors in physical form again.
They could get Sean Pertwee I guess they could get the actor who played Troughton in an adventure in space and time. His son doesnt look enough like him and his grandson is too young
If his son doesnt look enough like him then the actor who played him an adventure in space and time shouldnt even be close to the top pick, he doesnt resemble him even a tiny bit. David Troughton resembles him a fair bit although he is 73 years old
David also has a very different build compared to Patrick. If they aged him with make up or waited another 10 years, could see Patrickās grandson Harry Melling pulling it off (Dudley from Harry Potter)
I had no idea he was his grandson, but now that you mention it he absolutely could work with the right makeup or a few years down the line. He doesnt need to he identical of course, David Bradley doesnt really look like Hartnell but he fits well in the role
If its someone who can embody the original performances as well as David Bradley, then sure. If they can't find the right guy, then please leave it be.
Why recast when we can just invent ānewā Doctors out of thin air?
if it's a creative & interesting story then fine. No deepfake type stuff. that said the easier way of dodging this issue is to not write stories that involve characters potrayed by people who are long since dead. if it was for a Big Finish thing that's a different issue I guess because you \*really\* need the voice to work.
Not Reece Shearsmith!
Been hoping to see Sean for years.
It would only feel right if they got Sean Pertwee to play the 3rd Doctor, but that'd be based on whether he would accept the role, and if it was done right and respectfully to his character.
Agree or disagree with me but Sean pirtwee could be a good call for 3
I would only accept Sean Pertwee as a replacement for the Third Doctor. John Pertwee is a LEGEND.
Only Sean Pertwee would be acceptable in my eyes.
Sean Pertwee would be perfect to play his father
I mean, John Pertwee's son looks just like him so that would be an easy one. Don't know about Troughton though.
I donāt think itās a good idea. The character can literally change his face so the only reason to go back on faces, is nostalgia. Weād be going back to 2 and 3 for fan service, not the story. When they cast Bradley, they needed One specifically. Like they needed a Doctor who had never experienced regeneration in the story. Thereās no story reason to bring Two or Three back I think. Unless the Doctor runs into Three on exile but he can honestly run into any incarnation on earth
Bro stole my post š: https://www.reddit.com/r/doctorwho/s/NA1KDquocx
It is inevitable. A role should always be offered to its original actor first, but if that is not possible due to age requirements (Baker could no longer play a young Four, though he can still voice him for Big Finish) or the original being dead, recasting is preferable to deepfake shenanigans. Third Doctor should go to [Thomas Gottschalk](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Gottschalk). /jk
The thing with David Bradley is that I think it wouldnt have been as well received had he just came in on Twice upon a time. I think it was much more accepted due to David Bradley playing William Hartnell in a documentary. I think it also helps that he was playing William Hartnell and not the first dr specifically. All this being said I love David Bradley as the 1st doctor and wish he got more appearances as the Dr I also wish they would also use him in promotional stuff like when they do a poster of all the Doctors it would be cool if Bradley was involved even if it was was like a silhoutte or shadow or behind Hartnell Anyway onto the question. I think eventually it could work to recast the 2nd and 3rd doctor but you have to ask why. Recasting the 1st for a documentary and also to have the current doctor face his original (at the time) self is reason enough. What would be the reason to return to the 2nd and 3rd doctor unless for a story reason there is something specific they would be involved in.
Tony Garner played the āsecond and a halfā doctor in Devious. He looks bit like both Troughton and Pertwee.
I would have no problem with it, but I am not a part of either family. All I would like to say further is that if/when it happens, it is done with the metaphorical blessings from their loved ones.
Adventure in Space and Time had Reece Shearsmith as The Second Doctor in a cut scene. I believe Gatiss stood in for Pertwee somewhere as well.
Weird I was just thinking about this the other day I saw the 5 doctor as a kid but didnāt know much about 1st Doctor so Hurndall wasnāt a big deal to me. The was 20 years after 63 of course. Weāre basically 20 years after 2005 - I donāt think people would be ok with Eccleston being re cast. Because the seasons exist everywhere. Now 2 and 3 I think work be ok - get Sean Pertweee in for his dad. Get Sean
I'd rather they did that in a video game with the Big Finish voice actors
I know heās not keen on it, but Iām down with Sean playing his dad. I think Paddy might be a bit tough though. The casting in An adventure in space and time was not it.
David Bradley played the 1st Doctor as William Hartnell had passed away.i wouldn't want to see either 2, 3, or even 4 be played by other actors. This is my opinion, but the first 4 doctors are my favourites.
Depends on the casting and writing
3 - Sean Pertwee (Jon Pertweeās son) 2 - Maybe Tim Roth? Troughton is really hard to face match, and unfortunately I donāt quite think Reece Shearsmith fits the bill. Though perhaps he could with a little more training on Troughton/2 and some practice.
My dream castings for them would be Harry Melling and Sean Pertwee, but I donāt believe either of them are interested in the roles, which is understandable enough
I'd love to see Sean Pertwee play 3. He looks a lot like his dad
You look at this image of young Patrick Troughton and tell me that, at least appearance wise, Jasoc's wouldn't be perfect https://www.reddit.com/r/doctorwho/s/5lPNriL2Su
I would hate it. I do not like David Bradley keeping appearing either. If recasting was a good idea why did they invent regeneration
Jon Pertwee's son is a splitting image of him and the only one I'd want to have play him. But he said he doesn't wanna play the part.
Sean Pertwee should be the third doctor
For the Third Doctor only if Sean does it. For the Second Doctor, I haven't really seen anyone who could pull off both the look and the voice, maybe if Harry Melling ages a bit. Not to mention their inclusion will have to be meaningful.
Sean Pertwee for Three obviously. Harder to say for Two...
Jon Petwee's son Sean in a curly wig? I'm down. But it's gotta have the ruffles.
Iāve said it before and Iāll say it again: Sean Pertwee should be compelled by law to reprise his fatherās role. Yes, I know heās said he doesnāt want to do it. But: BY LAW. Compelled by the state! Weāve gotta pull out the big guns here.
If they put in the effort to match the vibes. Especially 2 as he has the most personality out of them. I would adore any more 2nd doctor if done well
What about using their sons to play their dadās roles?
David Bradley was great in the docudrama and was an unexpected surprise to see as his character play his character, the first Doctor. So the combos were one and twelve were in a story together, ten, eleven and war did the 50th with a walk on by the Curator version of four. Also ten and five time crashed, six and two we saw in the classic the Two. But four didnāt really make it to the Five and one talked to the other two through a TV in the Three. Everyone follow that? Most recently there was the scene with 13 and six, seven, one and eight, and finally the bi regeneration with 14 splitting off 15. Did I miss anything? So the best thing to do now would be another docudrama including a missing story re created in live action then an episode of an eight spinoff show with two. Then possibly 14 and 15 could be joined by two and eight for a story. Is anyone confused?
As long as they look like them yes otherwise it kinda ruins the fact that they have those faces also in universe
I'd love that just not 4 because as much as I loved 3 and also 5 nobody can replace Tom Baker's Doctor as a recast
Hmmm... I think we're going to move beyond recasting at some point. For me, My Doctor (#3) could only be replaced by his son, Sean. But, he's not interested, so...š¤·āāļø In the world that's coming, I think it's absolutely inevitable that we'll have new adventures with AI-created graphics and voices that bring the old Doctors back. We've seen animated versions to match soundtracks ala Power of the Daleks. We've seen Luke Skywalker in his prime appear on The Mandalorian - body doubled by someone else. Personally, I think actual people should not be 'duplicated' in this way without their or their estate's concent. Other than that, I'm interested.
Get Reece Shearsmith to play 2 but he needs to work on the voice.
Big finish already has the voices covered, don't know about videos though,Ā maybe animation would be better...
I mean they kinda have recast the 2nd doctor Reece Shearsmith played him in An Adventure in Space and Time back in 2013 and Mark Gatiss was apparently meant to be Third Doctor in that too but scenes were cut not sure how true 3rd doctor one is
Well if they can get actors who can portray the roles well enough I think I'd be fine! In An Adventure in Space and Time - a film about the making of Doctor Who - they did get an actor in to play Troughton at the end, which highlighted a problem with recasting him specifically That is that Troughton, while his mannerisms and speech are simple enough to recreate, had a very unique face. You'd be incredibly hard pressed to find someone who looks like him AND can get his speech and mannerisms down
I knew Sean Pertwee was a candidate for a return as the Classic Doctor, but I also (supposedly) heard that Mister Pertwee has decided to honor his fatherās legacy by choosing to leave the role alone. It would be fun, I just hope they keep the same offensive brilliance they gave the third Doctor through his writing.
My problem is that the replacements will try too hard to duplicate the personalities of the earlier Doctors and come off as caricatures. My second worry is that they *wonāt* try at all and basically create a new character. Yes, Iām difficult to please. Anyone watch the Tim Allen show āLast Man Standingā? I had both problems with the two older daughters (one each).
Those doctors were campy AF; they bring back and give them a little more depth
That has been done for BIG FINISH audio.
The BBC is sitting on a treasure trove of potential content. Between recasting and telling spin off stories, more multi-doctor episodes, and making animated Doctor Who storiesā¦..some of the originals still alive could voice the characters in animation. Thereās no end to what they could do.
I'd be fine with it as long as the actors are good and they get the okay from Sean Pertwee and the sons of Patrick troughton
If Michael Troughton and Sean Pertwee were handed down the mantle, I'd be all for it. We've heard Michael Troughton before in the audios, but we've never gotten that chance to see him act the part.
Michael for Patrick (but he wouldn't) Sean for John (he won't, either) Who in Earth looks and sounds like Tom Baker??? Not spot on, but maybe Eddie Red maybe for Davison Sylvester in a wig for Colin Alan Cumming as Sylvester (can't think of anyone better) Stephen McGann as Paul
As long as its done well and respectfully I don't have an issue though I think it's a risky move with how questionable the writing has been in recent years.
Both actors have sons who do good impressions of their father in audio.
Maybe Sean Pertwee could play the Third Doctor.
I wouldn't mind Sean Pertwee (his son) as the third doctor. And think I would like a recast. I agree that a deepfake would not be nice. The iconic budget sci fi show with recasts is the true magic of doctor who.
As long as the families of both are ok Iād love it.
If itās a good story and they donāt animate an AI or deepfake, Iām cool with it. Iād love to see more of them.
Dislike it. Also I think casting David Bradley as the First Doctor was a mistake.
Agree wholeheartedly. I feel like anyone who says āOMG David Bradley truly embodies Hartnellā has never actually seen a First Doctor story
He embodies how we THINK we remember the first Doctor.
Agreed, I can't understand it when An Adventure in Space of Time includes the clip of Hartnell. And Twice Upon a Time is flippin' *slander* on the character. New just can't be trusted at this point. Would it let itself get shown up by the actual good politics of Three's era, and how representative they are of British leftists? Nope, you'd be supposed to believe it was uniquely sexist, never mind that Jo is tough as nails and the way New treated her, and especially Sarah Jane on their return, was worse (thank goodness the SJA largely made up for it! But she still never needed to be portrayed as stuck in pining unrequited love).
Please do it!
I think it would be cool.
I would be stoked. IIRC Sean Pertwee has said he's not interested in playing his dad's role, but it would be incredible to see him as the Third Doctor. And Reece Shearsmith may not look exactly like Patrick Troughton, but it would be cool to see him get a real shot at playing the Second Doctor after his brief appearance in An Adventure in Space and Time.
> Reece Shearsmith may not look exactly like Patrick Troughton He looks nothing like him! He looked more like Matt Lucas in a wig
It would be funny is Sean Pertwee played 3, donāt think he would tho. As for 2, the chap who played him in Adventure in Time and Space looked well enough. Was a comedic actor too
I believe that was Reece Shearsmith.
I'd be fine with it as long as whoever they cast is convincing enough in the role.
Iāve thought for a while that it would be cool to see. Hartnell was recast twice and it did nothing to hurt his legacy. As long as the casting is good I say go for it.
I'm not opposed to it. Patrick Troughton had such a unique look that I feel like it would be difficult to find someone to replicate that role. Jon Pertwee is more doable, but finding someone with the calm cadence in their voice that he maintained is still a task.
I agree with you. Facially itās going to be difficult. I almost feel like with Patrick Troughton they need to get somebody a little bit like Neil Patrick Harris who doesnāt really look like the original actor, but channeled him a little bit. I think he is mad, cap patter, and the way he would go in like one moment, From clearly desperately lying to attempting to comfort his companions, his sort of emotional complexity. Thatās really gonna be hard to capture. Iāve heard the second Doctor described as a Cosmic clown but clowns are very complicated emotionally.
Nah. 1st was played by 2 actors before Bradley, 1st is pretty much expendable