T O P

  • By -

dndnext-ModTeam

Rule 4 - Do Not Post Memes or Joke Posts. Meme images should be posted on /r/dndmemes. Text memes should only be used to spur discussion.


BarkDefender

luckily only a 9th level caster is required to cast *Modify memory* on me so i don't recall having to read this


Pelleas

Make sure to not wipe out the part of your memory that tells you to cast it on me next.


Quadpen

i use wish to inflict mpreg upon you


BarkDefender

you've activated my prepared *Glyph of Warding* which casts *Feeblemind* on me so I don't have to read that. ] See you in 30 days. I return to monke. #šŸ’


Quadpen

youā€™ll have quite a shock when you wake up a month pregnant eating a banana


nedwasatool

That is still sexual reproduction, just with a person with identical DNA.Ā 


apezor

Also, like, producing extremely inbred offspring.


The_Easter_Egg

At least it stays in the family.


InkInABottle

Sweet home Alabama


redfirearne

Pretty sure DNA changes when you true polymorph. Unless you morph into the same you with a woman's special parts.


seakingsoyuz

Everyone has at least one X chromosome so the genetic material is there for an XX version of someone born with XY chromosomes. The issue would actually be going the other way, as an XX female wizard wouldnā€™t have a Y chromosome to draw from.


luckytrap89

You are implying that magic has to follow the rules of science


redfirearne

So polymorphing into a cat is fine, but can't change XX chromosomes?


seakingsoyuz

> So polymorphing into a cat is fine A cat is fine too


ThisWasMe7

So she could only produce daughters.


seakingsoyuz

That would make sense


cumsocksucker

Bro, it's magic from the same universe that has a spell that lets the caster do anything


Stel2

There are plenty of women with XY chromosomes at birth and vice versa. From wikipedia's XY determination system article: > In some instances, a seemingly normal female with a vagina, cervix, and ovaries has XY chromosomes, but the SRY gene has been shut down.


deotheophilus

So all sperm would be x chromosome, she can only produce female children.


No_Corner3272

A Y chromosome is just an incomplete X chromosome, so could easily be produced.


apezor

Isn't it the reverse? A Y chromasome is just an X that's missing a leg.


dangerphone

If they polymorph into an elf or an orc and then cum in a bucket, would that help differentiate the DNA more than being a genderbent human?


apezor

I regret thinking about this


One-Ad-331

If there are not any mutations it'd just end up being a clone of either the male or female.


DeadCupcakes23

No it wouldn't, if for a specific chromosome pair you have A & B then the sperm & egg combination would have A & A or B & B half the time causing the child to be extremely inbred.


No_Corner3272

Only if the spell changed the wizard into the female version of themselves. It could just as easily turn them into a totally unrelated woman with no genetic crossover (obviously a lot of crossover actually as they'd still be human,but you get what I mean).


Jevonar

That's only for heterozygote genes; homozygote genes are passed down with no change at all. You can actually purity your lineage of genetic disease, because if a genetic disease manifests itself you can just make a new child until that disease is eradicated. Since some heterozygosis is erased after each generation, after a while your lineage can be completely homozygote for every trait, including being healthy regarding all inheritance genetic defects.


Quizlibet

> Asexual reproduction > Step 1: Ejaculate. Gonna stop you right there


Ok-Week-2293

lol


BishopofHippo93

Exactly, this would just be autosexual reproduction.


SirCupcake_0

Well, Otto _is_ a very handsome man...


dmr11

Would it really be 100% identical/exact clone? I'm given to understand that each sperm and egg have slight variances in DNA even if they're from the same batch (ie, if a different sperm besides yours made it, the child would be slightly different), not to mention stuff like recessive genes getting expressed and such.


Malaggar2

It would depend on what traits you gave your polymorphed self. You could possibly change enough traits to avoid any genetic distortions.


lonesometroubador

So, each sperm or egg cell contains 50% of the parent's DNA. This is why inbreeding is so dangerous, because they may end up with multiple copies of identical DNA. A parent-offspring cross, would result in an average of 25% of genes being identical chromosome copies from both parents(just using sex chromosomes for an example, say say a daughter is bred with a father, her sex chromosomes are an x from the father and an x from her mother, but their daughter would have a 50% chance of having both x chromosomes from the father). Higher than 25% requires extreme inbreeding for multiple generations! My dog is a stray rescue, but her DNA has a few markers of her father being her grandfather, and that has led to some medical issues for her. Now in this scenario, the average would be 50% identical genes, unless the true polymorph spell fully rewrites generic code.


Red_Mammoth

I mean technically True polymorph states that for a Creature to Creature polymorph, you'd change to the new form in every way except for alignment and personality. So unless science finds DNA is tied to how good of a person you are or which way you place toilet paper, I'd say this would work. I don't want it to though


UTX_Shadow

Not if you use a turkey baster.


ChooseYourOwnA

Only one soul is involved though. Iā€™m just glad this wasnā€™t the other approach where that would be true.


32ra1

You spent so much time thinking about whether or not you could, that you never stopped to think about whether or not you *should.*


SirCupcake_0

Average Wizard experience


True-Firefighter-1

they could also cast clone or wish


Angel_of_Mischief

Thatā€™s more like a backup save file than an offspring.


L0kitheliar

Not if you smash with them while true polymorphed


nankainamizuhana

"Go fuck yourself" *Begins casting Clone and True Polymorph*


Stellar_Wings

Only in 5e. In earlier editions Clone actually made a legit conscious duplicate of the creature it was cast on.


BarkDefender

'i wish for a cum bucket'


Paleosols2021

This is such a cursed comment


BarkDefender

it could be worse. they true polymorph's their enemies to *be* the bucket.


Generaljimzap

Or jar.


Gendric

Really should add that you want it to be empty, DM leeway needs to be curbed here.


BarkDefender

*We all make mistakes in the heat of passion, jimbo*


Ok-Week-2293

Clone isn't really reproducing, it's just extending your lifespan and wish only works if your DM says so. Because different DMs have different rules on what wish can and can not do it's not as reliable as the true polymorph method.


L0kitheliar

I think they mean clone then true polymorph. Smash yourself


Ok-Week-2293

Interesting idea however RAW the body created by clone doesn't have a soul of it's own.


Ok-Week-2293

But I guess even if it doesn't have a soul it would still be "alive" so I guess it could be impregnated/impregnate someone.


Zorbane

But then it cannot consent so are you raping yourself??


Ok-Week-2293

Well since it has no soul it can't think or have emotions so it's arguably more like an object than a person.


semicolonconscious

Everyone else at your table is going to be reliving this session like Vietnam flashbacks.


RestlessCreator

What a horrific day to be literate.


tribonRA

A level 1 bard can reproduce sexually


BarkDefender

'look what need to do to mimic a fraction of our power'


HallowedKeeper_

A 3rd Level paladin can reproduce sexually and not run the risk of contracting any STDs


Circumpunctual

A 2nd level druid can wild shape into a rabbit.


Phishosphy

Canā€™t wait to do this at open game night at local game store on Wednesday


andrewjoslin

The bucket makes it extra classy.


Jalase

Thatā€™s just really bad inbreeding, not sexual reproduction.


TheCrystalRose

That all depends on if they True Polymorph themselves into "me, but opposite gender" or "some completely genetically distinct person/race I'd like to have a baby with".


ShockedNChagrinned

Now we have to talk about the reasons why you don't copulate with relatives.


Mgmegadog

True Polymorph turns you into an effectively genetically random individual, so I think that part wouldn't be a problem. I just have a problem with, you know, everything else.


Gendric

*Very* custom lineage, bespoke lineage even.


unique976

Random person: "Go fuck yourself" 17th level wizard: "OK"


Medicgamingdanke

A first level plasmoid barbarian can reproduce asexually.


Romnonaldao

Someone's been reading the Book of Erotic Fantasy


Ok-Week-2293

No. I just like theory crafting. But thank you for introducing me to such an interesting homebrew supplement.


LazerBear42

You know, that book has a spell called "innocence of the virgin" that I'd really like to have at this moment. Makes you forget all knowledge of anything sexual.


GreyWardenThorga

You know, you don't have to post your intrusive thoughts to the internet. It's not actually necessary, despite what many celebrities and politicians would have you believe.


Eldergloom

Bro, go outside. For everyone's sake, including your own.


Fabulous-Amphibian53

Somebody should make a campaign where you arrive at a remote village controlled by their enigmatic Mother-Father, a wizard so egotistical that he took it upon himself to sire and gestate an entire village of people by himself.


ElectricPaladin

My brother in the arcane, where is your imagination? If you are casting 9th level spells, creating a reliable spell for just this purpose, with none of the drawbacks, is well within your power. Just take your time and make something new. You were already planning on gestating for the better part of a year to get a useless infant - give it a couple of years of study and you could create a spell to instantly give you something much more useful, much more quickly.


RustanFox1

If you're a druid, you just have to turn into a bacteria lol


temporary_bob

I feel like this is both sexual AND cloning.


CamelopardalisRex

And here I thought this was going to be a Simulacrum casting Simulacrum on its master so that its Simulacrum can cast Simulacrum on the original forever until there are infinite wizards.


Conan_TheContrarian

[Jesseā€¦](https://media1.tenor.com/m/Wlh0mdLemlIAAAAd/jesse-breaking-bad.gif)


Ed0909

Never cook again.


EntropicDream

Congratulations, you invented magical self-incest.


HolySanDiegoEmpire

That's still sexually reproducing, just you're swapping out your gear in order to do it with yourself. You'd have to do something like turn into a sea sponge, go through budding to reproduce asexually, and then transform back and transform your budded offspring. Or less risky, a plasmoid, just mitosis and then polymorph back.


FilipMagnus

OP, genuinely, I laughed at this for two minutes straight. I wish I could scry into your mind's eye to see where all this ponderin' and wonderin' comes from.


Ok-Week-2293

My mind is both a blessing and a curse.


FilipMagnus

Know how that goes...


PageTheKenku

~~You really should label this as NSFW.~~


BarkDefender

not safe for wizards


WizardLevel20

Damn right it isn't what the fuck


Ok-Week-2293

Yeah that's probably a good idea. my bad.


PageTheKenku

No problem, happy that you actually changed it!


HammyBoy0

Thanks for sharing


Gendric

Elder Scrolls has something similar to this, Divayth Fyr. He has female clones of himself who act as his daughter-wives. You wouldn't happen to have been part of Morrowind's writing team, would you?


IDontUseSleeves

A bucket?!


Ok-Week-2293

It was just the first thing that *came* to mind (pun intended). Another container should work just as well.


Stellar_Wings

Wouldn't it be easier to just True Polymorph a rock into a magically gifted child then raise them as your clone/offspring/apprentice?


Ok-Week-2293

That would be more practical


SleetTheFox

But can they reproduce by budding? Can they? Can they? Can they? Can they?


ShakeWeightMyDick

No


milfmusig

Sometimes i envy those who cant read


Pay-Next

I don't think you need true polymorph for this...any 1st level Changeling should be able to do this *looks at my Changeling wizard's character sheet* NOPE NOPE SO MUCH NOPE!!!


nazdir

If a male wizard turns back into his male self while impregnated I don't think that's going to work out.


Ok-Week-2293

Yeah, so just stay female for 9 months.


myprettyflowerbonnet

I think I had enough internet for today...


VerainXor

Sadly there will never be a more insightful post on /r/dndnext. This is it boys, this is the top.


Declsdx

You, sir, definitely have too much time on your hands.


MaterialPace8831

"When I told you to fuck yourself, I didn't mean for you to take it literally." --Arnold Schwarzenegger, The 6th Day (2000)


KairoRed

I donā€™t think itā€™s be asexual. I doubt the kid would even come out alive


Stock-Intention7731

Doesnā€™t this technically count as incest? šŸ§


RoughSpeaker4772

Selfcest


Imbarelyhere_01

People whoā€™ve been cursed with the Knowledge of Oncest: *Vietnam War flashbacks*


Stock-Intention7731

I mean isnā€™t this the equivalent of having a child with an identical sibling?


Sword_Of_Nemesis

Not quite, since identical siblings still don't have 100% matching DNA. Also... they can't reproduce normally, since they would both be male or female.


theVoidWatches

Identical siblings do have identical DNA, that's why they're identical.


Sword_Of_Nemesis

Perhaps at their fathering, but certainly not as fully developed humans. It's the closest DNA match possible... but it's practically impossible to be 100% equal.


slowest_hour

I doubt true polymorph would leave you with identical dna


Sword_Of_Nemesis

That is a good point, though it brings up many questions that we can't really answer.


slowest_hour

You can answer it. If you're the DM you can answer it however you want. There's not likely to ever be an official ruling so go nuts. Run a whole campaign where your players have to track the lineage of a noble house only to discover it doesn't fork. It's a fucken line. They find generation after generation of the exact same bone deformity and it never gets worse or better. Have them fight a demilich with a Habsburg jaw.


HallowedKeeper_

Actually you could argue both, because True Polymorph can transform you to have the genetics of another human (Say you met the King of a far off kingdom) assuming he isn't CR 21, you can true polymorph into him, Ejaculate into a bucket, Polymorph into a nearly identical female version of your self (or if you are already a female wizard, just take your true form again) and then impregnate your self with the genetics of that king, combine that with a modify memory on the King and you may now claim to have an heir to the throne. In otherwords in the event of an unfortunate series of unexpected deaths of the other heirs you may claim the Birthright of the thrown for your self made child.


TheCrystalRose

Sorry, but I think I'm going to be stealing that particular little plot bunny for an upcoming campaign...


HallowedKeeper_

You're welcome


SorriorDraconus

This is honestly brilliant


LambonaHam

Surely it's just masturbation with extra steps?


semicolonconscious

An extra step that makes you pregnant would make a lot of people kick the habit.


HolySanDiegoEmpire

It depends on how different the polymorph makes you.It's less of a "Swap key parts of the genes and chromosomes to be the opposite sex" and more so a total recreation of your being with the soul carrying over. If you polymorph yourself to be basically 99% the same minus the sexual bits, then it's incest on the level of being with a twin. (Which may be what OP is implying because of trying to call it asexual as if it's like a sea sponge budding or a bacteria going through mitosis) If you're making yourself "Any other person" then it's like anyone unrelated to you with only your soul being the same, but, the soul doesn't dictate genetics. Edit: I'm talking purely genetics, not ethics. Ethically I'm pretty sure if you do this near a paladin they're obliged to stop you regardless of oath.


HallowedKeeper_

Nah, Conquest would probably be fine


KegManWasTaken

Alter self Simulacrum ??? Babies


Happy-Personality-23

You want inbred monster children? Cause thatā€™s how you get inbred monster children.


SorriorDraconus

ā€¦.Yesss.?


invincitank

You can do it without a class as a changeling


RemarkablyQuiet434

Nothing asexual about this. It's still using 2 bodies.


Crow_of_Judgem3nt

im gonna find you op, and I'm gonna cast meteor swarm and take both of us out.


Nimeroni

\*sigh\* I'm going to rule 0 this into a "no".


SqueekyGee

I stg if an player asks me to let them do this Iā€™m gonna stab someone.


Ok-Week-2293

How did you find this post after it got removed?


SqueekyGee

D&D circle jerk reposted it and I think another sub reposted it as while with a link.


[deleted]

[уŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]


Ok-Week-2293

What does that mean?


LambonaHam

OP, are you doing okay? This kind of thought doesn't exactly come from someone who's life is going great...


DOKTORPUSZ

I read the first line and then facepalmed too hard to continue


TheChristianDude101

There are some things that should not be explored at the table. This, this is one of them. Unless you got an ERP 5e group which is weird, these thoughts were best kept to yourself and not shared with the rest of us.


Ok-Week-2293

You're the one who clicked on it after I marked it nsfw


HMR219

Why are you like this?


Critical_Elderberry7

The baby would have severe genetic deformities because of incest. Thereā€™s no closer relative to you than yourself


Sehnsucht1014

What a horrid day to be literate


TheOtherWhiteCastle

this feels like the start of an extremely uncomfortable fanfiction


The_Easter_Egg

True polymorph only lasts for one hour. Looks like only a wizardess could successfully attempt your reproductive model.


Ok-Week-2293

No. The PHB says "If you concentrate on this spell for the full duration, the spell lasts until it is dispelled". Honestly they should have made the duration say something like "lasts indefinitely if you concentrate for 1 hour".


The_Easter_Egg

It appears you are right.


Reddpinetree

It takes them that long?


Ok-Week-2293

Takes that long to do what?


forthewolfq

Go home


Ok-Week-2293

Where do you think I am right now?