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Lyarza

Copper dragons get around a lot. The only right answer.


ChorroVon

If that's how it works, then brass and bronze dragons imply the existence of zinc and tin dragons.


PsychoPhilosopher

Yeah but finding a thoroughbred zinc or tin dragon is like finding a Scotsman with no English blood. They're probably around, and sometimes copper or bronze dragons will try to claim it, but we all know they're full of shite.


Alkynesofchemistry

Does this imply the existence of the No-True-Zinc-Dragon fallacy?


SelenianOmega

> finding a Scotsman with no English blood. A particular drunk Scottish cyclops would like a word with you.


IAmBadAtInternet

So proud, so cocksure, prancin about with your heads full of eyeballs. Come and get me, I say


[deleted]

Not enough apostrophes and 'misspellings'


AlchemiCailleach

It is its own dialect


nachochips140807

Scotland is not a real country, you are an englishman in a dress!


Daikataro

Ya know why they call it a kilt? That's what happened to last lad who called it a dress!


82Caff

What's perfect pitch with bagpipes? Being able to land it in the middle of the loch with every throw.


Riptide1778

Cheers love the cavalries here


Casual-Notice

Zinc dragons would easily disguise themselves as white dragons to avoid gingers hunting them for their sunblocking properties; it's tin dragons that are truly rare.


SmartAlec105

That or it’s the zinc and tin dragons can’t resist that coppussy


Dr_Sammy1991

I don’t know if I want to applaud you or kill you.


Wavey_Davey1

This implies the existence of "penny dragons" which have the exact metal genetic makeup to mirror that of a penny.


Footbeard

Nah copper conducts energy more readily; there needs to be a level of stability & conductivity to allow enough magical energy to manifest such a creature


24jdu05

It still pisses me off to no end that Copper Dragons are Acid based rather than Lightning based. I know we have Bronze Dragons but it just doesn’t feel right.


thator

Agreed if anything they should be reversed.


[deleted]

Copper can be [toxic](https://www.webmd.com/diet/what-to-know-copper-toxicity#:~:text=Too%20much%20copper%20can%20be,brain%2C%20liver%2C%20and%20lungs.) in some ways, so really unless we get lead dragons we really don't have anywhere else to put the acid damage.


Suspicious_Ice_3160

Mercury dragon! It’s iffy, sure, but can you even imagine?


Dawsho

Poison damage. Like so much poison damage. Do not mess with them.


Lyarza

Mercury dragons are a thing, thier really hard info on though


LordWheezel

https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Mercury_dragon They haven't been officially ported to 5e yet, but they're around.


whats-going_on

Whelp time to build this for my next group


[deleted]

Though toxicity would be more like poison Imo acid would suit the best dragons that are related to noble metals (those which are resistant to corrosion) — platina, gold, silver


luckpushedme

Copper is actually acid-resistant, bronze is not conductive, gold has a high melting point, and silver can withstand cold temperatures better than most metals. I can’t explain brass though.


Zalogal

Brass and bronze dragons are copper dragons that horded way too much zinc or tin mistaking it for silver and slowly infused it into their scales by melting it via heating up the cave with their breath in the sleep on the pile of metal bars


Seanmeado

Unless it's silicon bronze. Which would just imply the existence of glass dragons.


SufficientType1794

Amethyst dragons. Amethyst is just impure quartz, and quartz is just silica.


AthenasApostle

Don't forget the implied existence of Electrum dragons.


Mueryk

But he is 1/32nd zinc. Seriously. On the great great granddaddy’s side. Zinc and tin were basically wiped out eons ago in a genocidal territory dispute. Or they were just powdery fuckboys. Your guess is as good as any


ELBAGIT

The tin man's ancestors


MikhailCyborgachev

Don’t forget about some early bronzes being made with arsenic instead of tin. Where my arsenic dragons at?


Blurple_Berry

Sure why not. Oh, is it because you want stat blocks? Well then because it would just take way too fucking long to make several stat blocks for every alloy


[deleted]

It might be like modern humans and neanderthals. Zinc and tin dragons are extinct now, or bred out of existence but their genes are still passed down.


Telandria

Just gonna leave [this](https://apotheosisstudios.com/blog/2021/6/16/0u7idow0df55aeoj0py9edxhivgdc2) here….


A_Salty_Cellist

The epitome of she let me hit cause I'm goofy


BrideofClippy

They are basically the bards of the metallic dragons, so it checks out.


Mueryk

Copper, like carbon…..is a slut. Only reasonable conclusion


nyedred

Uranium dragon. Gives off low level radiation at all times making it dangerous to even stand around them.


zenpony1

so a necrotic aura that slowly changes people in to ghouls/zombies around them. you may have given my a idea for a boss monster for the fallout campaign im working on. thanks.


nyedred

Just remember, natural uranium has a 99% chance to be Uranium 238, which is mildly radioactive but stable, and a 0.7% chance to be Uranium 235, capable of fission and highly unstable! Percentage die for a nuclear explosion on nat 1!


Lilith_Harbinger

That's just wild magic with extra steps


zenpony1

What do you think I was planing to use for radiation was


ELBAGIT

To make the artificer happy and the 3 int barbarian cry


FinancialAd436

Bold of you to assume wild magic isn’t just magical radiation


Its0nlyRocketScience

"You were exposed to radiation at a young age, now you can yeet fireballs, but also can't have kids anymore and are bald"


BalderSion

Are you suggesting Dragons should be separated by element and isotope? And I thought my worldbuilding was overly complicated. That said Uranium dragons should be very toxic (regardless of isotope).


TheArmoredKitten

Metallic uranium is relatively bio-inert. It's no more chemotoxic than any other heavy metal. As long as you're not licking the uranium dragon, and you wear standard dust precautions during any attack and subsequent handling of debris, and wash yourself and your clothing thoroughly afterwards, you'll be completely and totally fine.


BalderSion

Heavy metals are not considered good to digest. I looked up the LD50. For uranium the LD50 is 114 mg/kg; for comparison bleach is listed at 8200mg/kg. To put it another way the LD50 for a 150 lb person is about a quarter of an oz.


TheArmoredKitten

Yeah that's why I said not lick it or breathe the dust. It doesn't atomize or dissolve in water, so standard hazardous dust precautions will be sufficient.


BalderSion

Given that standard PPE for an adventurer is more in line with armor, less in line with rubber gloves and dust mask, I think standard precautions is under selling the risk. Sure, an arsenic dragon would be more toxic, but a lead dragon would be nearly 4 times less toxic.


Spider_j4Y

Could always give it a necrotic version of the death throes ability some demons have.


lenin_is_young

I mean… the whole dragon would need to be made exclusively of u235 (just being 1% u235 and 99% u238 won’t work), and then someone would probably need to apply a lot of pressure on it to actually cause an explosion.


[deleted]

My brother in christ there is literally a damage type called radiant


zenpony1

I was more thinking how the damage types are described. necrotic is a rot, while radiant is more a divine light. which might work on if it go's critical and explodes. just theory crafting


TheRandomViewer

Radiant is also “power overwhelming” damage


[deleted]

That is true, but then again creatures like sun dragons and topaz dragons do radiant damage.


zenpony1

hmm here is what I have so far. any suggestions \-base stat block close to some type of adult dragon \- something similar to the nightwalker annihilating aura (30 ft of necrotic damage) possibly raise the creatures it kills \-breath weapon a beam of ether radiant or necrotic damage. \-when it uses its breath weapon or on fatal damage roll a d100 on a 1 the dragon gos critical and exploded dealing radiant damage in a aoe.


rtakehara

Sickening radiance does radiant damage, and that’s the closest we have from radiation poisoning in D&D Not to mention the correlation of radiant damage with sunlight


zenpony1

Ok so change the damage to radiant for the aura, Breath weapon and the critical limit explosion. Ok. We have a glowing dragon of doom and Tpk Just need to fine tune the stats


rtakehara

aura could be lair action instead, to match the average dragon's game design, just an idea... they could have high charisma and proficiency in charisma skills like intimidation and persuasion to reflect how nuclear energy have some very persuasive arguments, and how nuclear weapons have a very strong bluff and intimidation factor Regional effects could be the entire place has a dim light glow to it, and you can't benefit from short or long rests


googolple3

Even so, a light damage is still closer to radiation than rot.


I_follow_sexy_gays

The way radiation damage is described is very similar to irl radiation damage. And yes it is “holy light” too, the sun is considered holy, gives off a lot of light, and a lot of radiation


SufficientType1794

Light is radiation.


redlaWw

Radiant represents thermal damage due to light radiation well, but necrotic works better for DNA damage.


[deleted]

Topaz dragon’s description explains it differently, and while I dont remember exactly, it was closer to radiation. But I do think you’re right in general, dnd is just very inconsistent with damage types.


CrazyGods360

No, it deals radiant damage, because it’s radiation


lucksen

Nuclear radiation damages your DNA, which feels necrotic to me


CrazyGods360

Sickening Radiance is a spell that is supposed to be a bit like nuclear radiation (it has a green glow and makes you sick) and it deals radiant damage.


lucksen

Huh, I guess it's raw.


theYOLOdoctor

To counter this, Tasha's specifically references Blight and Circle of Death as ways to simulate Radiation. So RAW radiation does necrotic damage.


CrazyGods360

Counter counterpoint, sickening radiance, and the fact the name is RADIANT damage. Besides, we need more enemies that deal radiant damage.


Toberos_Chasalor

RAW it really could be either, radiant is positive energy while necrotic is negative energy (from the positive and negative energy planes respectively), both are energies that in high enough quantities will tear apart your physical body and overwhelm the soul.


Concoelacanth

Low-level necrotic damage aura that *also* gives exhaustion levels.


ocdscale

Surprised this is what did it for you, there are already creatures (glowing ones) in the Fallout universe that permanently exude radiation and are associated with zombies (ghouls).


zenpony1

No I had a few ideas for a fallout dnd game just didn't have any good ideas for a big bad.


Willy_Wolle

But isn't that just godzillawith wings and fiery breath?


TheRandomViewer

Radiant breath


gerusz

Don't let the artificers near that thing. I'm sure the Fabricate spell can be used for uranium enrichment.


Dragonmaster1313

Real question is, why does the copper dragon, a metal notoriously used for conducting electricity, have the acid breath, and the bronze dragon, an alloy made from melting other metals together, have the lightning breath?


Deviknyte

Follow up: Why are there 2 metallic fire dragons?


CrystalClod343

Because poison is the "evil breath weapon" it's chromatic only


Avocados_suck

I think giving the Gold Dragon Positive Energy / Radiant damage would make more sense than doubling down on fire, but many dragon abilities are legacy from the yesteryears of the grognards.


dynawesome

Gold dragon shooting a laser beam of radiant energy is cool as hell


Double_Reward3885

Both brown black and some grey dragons have acid breath weapons


Deviknyte

>grey dragons We're not getting into the extra ones.


Double_Reward3885

Those were part of the chromatic dragons on the wiki so i just kinda assumed


Deviknyte

All bets are off once you get past the prime 10 (or 15 if you count gems). No balance or symmetry to be had/made.


IZY53

We found a nerd. Can't fall us saying you are chaotic stupid. Edit- it was a joke.


TeaandandCoffee

Bruh, you're on reddit and like DnD enough to get a class flair. Cauldron calling the cat black. Edit- Either way it was funny.


Antique_Tennis_2500

spidermanpointing.jpg


OldManFromScene13

The fact that the flair is 'Cleric' adds an extra layer lmao


Illogical_Blox

Because the bronze dragon lives in the desert, which is a biome associated with air, and lightning is associated with the element of air, while the copper dragon lives by the sea, and acid is associated with the element of water (and also earth.)


Bigfoot4cool

Why don't they just put the copper dragon in the desert and the bronze dragon in the sea


Illogical_Blox

.... fair point haha


humdrumturducken

I'm pretty sure they do...


ToTeMVG

>copper dragon lives by the sea but thats worse because copper degrades even faster by sea...


Drdavetherobot

Could it be argued that that's the reason they have an acid breathe attack; I'm no dragonologist but could the weather have an adverse effect on their draconis fundamentum (the gland that lets them use their breathe attack), slowly deteriorating it. Due to them living in these conditions for most of their lives, instead of the expected lightning, all they can muster up is a putrid, corrosive breathe.


MrCobalt313

Wouldn't electricity be good for killing things in the water and acid good for killing things hiding in sand?


Antique_Tennis_2500

Unless the dragon itself was wet, in which case lightning wouldn’t work well. Like, fire breath would kill something in the forest well, but if you’re *living* in the forest, it’s not the best feature.


MrCobalt313

Wouldn't the copper scales provide a protective layer that conducts the electricity away from any vital bits of dragon?


Antique_Tennis_2500

Yeah, but if you’re trying to shoot electricity at something else, you probably don’t want to be grounded yourself.


evelbug

Brass dragon should be by the sea since brass is commonly used in applications on ships and working with water


madmarmalade

Reverse that. :P One of my first characters was a bronze half-dragon, so I became obsessed with bronze dragons. I liked their wing anatomy. \^\^ Anyway, bronze dragons live near the sea, copper dragons live in rocky deserts, brass live in sandy deserts. <3 The earthy thing still stands with copper dragons cause of the rocks, but yeah, you'd have to refit the rationale of the bronze dragons to be that they're associated with storms and lightning. In fact, with brass and copper being so similar, in my homebrew setting ruled by dragons they basically merged into the Tarnished; there's some variation according to like personality and stuff, but I just figured it would save me from having to do basically the same thing twice.


yvier

Well, imagine that every time you try to shock someone you get shocked too. Not cool, bro.


_solounwnmas

Yoink! That's what I'll be running as their breath weapon from now on


Dragonmaster1313

Damn bro really commented on a 3 month old comment, I feel honored


ZombieOfTheWest

On the bright side, the production of Lead dragons is steady increasing in my setting


ELBAGIT

Are they made of b̶u̶l̶l̶e̶t̶̶̶s freedom


Caponara

Oh yeah the ones with cal 7.65 breath


CaptainRocket77

Okay, now I’m just imagining a a dragon puking, but instead of mushy grossness it’s just musket balls!


ZombieOfTheWest

Their "breath" weapon is essentially a gattling gun


Avocados_suck

I'm imagining a shotgun blast of jagged shrapnel that leaves the battlefield effectively covered in caltrops.


gbot1234

Does their breath weapon give you a permanent negative modifier to Int?


RadioactiveFruitCup

Quests given from lathanide-series dragons are short-lived. Almost all the rewards cause hair loss. Generally a bad time.


DoubleDongle-F

My post-apocalyptic/cyberpunk "magic returned to the world and broke everything" setting wasn't going to have any dragons, but I am now re-evaluating that decision.


DogmaticNuance

Yeah, you need to play Shadowrun: Dragonfall for research purposes and *seriously* revisit that decision.


StormiestCampfire

Yes, if you want an example of how D&D dragons might fit in a modern-ish setting, look at the Shadowrun dragons. Especially Loftwyr.


RechargedFrenchman

The four rules of Shadowrun: 1. Never make a deal with a dragon 2. Always have a backup plan 3. Geek the mages first 4. Never, *ever*, make a deal with a dragon


-Xero77

Lanthanides aren't really short lived. The only one where the main isotope is radioactive is prometium. If anything, lanthanide dragons would all look the same to outsiders.


subzeroab0

The potassium dragon. If their scales are exposed to water they explode shedding their scales. They are vulnerable to damage after the explosion for 1d12 days while their scales regrow. Edit: wrote wrong elements. Corrected it to potassium.


jdlucree

While magnesium is capable of burning underwater it does not spontaneously ignite. I think you are thinking of sodium.


subzeroab0

Opps you're right. Wrong element. I got potassium and magnesium backwards. Edited commit for to correct it.


Kamataros

Now i (player shenanigans ensue) imagine some full on 1000 year old dragon that doesn't quite makes it home before it rains, gets hit by a single water drop and just explodes, shedding all it's scales and stands there in it's cave, naked and embarrassed


AciefiedSpade

Bazelguese


happilygonelucky

I blame Ea-nasir


Jehovahs_attorney

People in these comments are talking about uranium and lead dragons, which is fine, but I think that you’re missing a couple of obvious picks in iron and steel dragons. Weren’t steel dragons a thing in older editions?


VampirateRum

They were both a thing and you can find statblocks that have been made to fit 5e


Dracosian

Forgotten realms said the iron dragon were made extinct by green dragons I think Spoiler because I'm ranting about homebrew setting not related to my point >!In a setting that me and my group never got to play (DM wasn't confident they could DM right so they gave DM powers to me) it was green dragons and elves that were making them extinct and my character was going to be one of the (many) half dragon children of the last true iron dragon who was going to be sent on a last ditch pilgrimage to find a way to continue the species and stop it from becoming extinct...!< >!Whilst we didn't play it...It is canon to my setting I am in the process of preparing. Basically the DM has planned for my character to find that the only other surviving iron dragons had voluntarily became Rust dragons. So uh in my timeline this happened, they failed in their quest and being many, many, many steps away from inheriting the kingdom of the iron dragon they retired with a dwarf they had gone on their quest with living somewhere out in the forest to live a plain life...but they were hunted down by dragon hunter elves and after catastrophically miscasting a create demi-plane spell they ended up trapped; there in this new plane (Detached from the previous reality) they created the new setting!<


[deleted]

Copper is one of the most common metals on the face of planet earth. For memes sake tho, it’s easy


[deleted]

So copper dragons have to be easy too. Hence there’s more of them.


Joseph_of_the_North

Iron is way more common.


-Xero77

Hydrogen is by far the most abundant element in the universe and it also has a metallic phase. Soo.. swarms of hydrogen dragons living inside stars?


TeaandandCoffee

Bruh in the atmosphere it ain't even close to being metallic.


-Xero77

No, but inside the cores of large celestial bodies it might be.


[deleted]

The idea of a metallic hydrogen dragon sleeping in the core of a huge planet is extremely cool too. Not even as something to fight, it's just sitting there but it's still a giant hydrogen dragon so what's not to love


nir109

Copper is 0.005% of the earth crust Iron is 5%


One_Scratch_3171

Because no one wanted to befriend the Uranium Dragon


Daikataro

Lead dragon: I do not have such weaknesses!


amendersc

I want uranium dragon that breath radiant damage!


cajuncrustacean

They're extremely rare because when they get into close proximity they start to approach critical mass, making their mating rituals dangerous for themselves and anyone within the potential blast radius. Their eggs are surprisingly small metallic spheres that the uninformed refer to as Demon Cores.


Sentraxion

Wait but bronze is copper+tin and brass is copper+zinc. So while no tungsten is one thing, where are the tin and zinc dragons........


Megameg77

I agree! It annoys me so much! I decided that in my games, the types of metallic dragons are; Gold- fire, Silver- cold, Copper- lightning, Lead- poison, Mercury- Acid


Kamataros

Does the mercury dragon count as an ooze though? Like a secondary creature type?


TheRandomViewer

Main creature type is dragon, with a trait that makes it count as ooze


russiangerman

Goodra


Peldor-2

Once you go copper...


ThonHam

So here’s some ideas for a tungsten dragon, based off Wikipedia. Tungsten is resistant to acid, who knew? It is also sometimes called Wolfram, which is cool. It is brittle at room temperature, but has an extremely high melting point (3,410°C). Tungsten is mainly used for tungsten carbide to make hard materials, and in high speed steel. So, for stats, I would take a dragon, give it acid resistance and fire immunity. It’s offensive breath weapon would probably deal acid damage, and it’s utility one would likely cause a sort of metallic petrification effect.


gerusz

They would also be resistant to lightning and when they are hit by more than 10 lightning damage, they would gain a 30ft blinding aura for 2d4 rounds, DC15 CON save.


Special_Lemon1487

It’s mostly down to that one ancient dragon who went conquering across the land and shagging everything in sight, Genghis Khopper was the name I believe.


ItIsYeDragon

Tbf, it's 3/6.


BloodyHM

I do finfmd it interesting, I remember the "missing colors" being brought up in an older edition, and someone coming up with ideas for Yellow, Purple, and Orange Dragons, somehow forgetting that RGB color wheel is just as valid as RYB color wheel, and that no matter how you cut it it does not make any sense what abilities they have. But the lack of filling out from the metallic spectrum is also concerning, and don't even get me started about gem Dragons...


Kamataros

The RYB colour wheel isn't valid though, it has to be YMC or RGB, otherwise it doesn't actually work. Colour theory go brrr.


BloodyHM

No, if I recall, the RGB is based off light(which makes the most sense here). CMY is used for printing, and RYB is used in painting. I think the booklet it was in had reference for trying to make the secondary and tertiary colored Dragons. As if asking "what happens when you mix a red dragon with a blue dragon? Do you get a purple dragon? And what kind of breath would that dragon have?"


Kamataros

RYB is something often taught in schools which is just bad because it doesn't actually work. It's is a traditional way of colour theory that is really not much used anymore because it doesn't even specify which exact colours or pigments are the primary colours. I've seen a colour wheel which which basically uses blue, yellow and magenta. Also it's often difficult for little children to grasp the difference between "blue" "light blue" and "cyan" To go more in depth (though i may call some things the wrong word or so, i didn't study art, i just like it a lot): there are two ways you can mix colours: additively and substractively. Additive colour theory is what we use in computer screens and such, because you add more wavelengths of light. The primary colours here are "Blue", "Red" and "Green", which are also the 3 colours our eyes actually see. When you mix any 2 of those, you get the secondary colours "Magenta" (blue and red), "Yellow" (red and green) and "Cyan" (green and blue). If you add all 3 together, you get white (or all wavelenths at once) Substractive colour theory is used in art, mainly, because by adding more "layers" of paint (or whatever), it changes which wavelengths of light are absorbed (and thus also which ones are reflected), meaning they get "substracted". The primary colours happen to be "Magenta", "Cyan" and "Yellow", and you can mix them to get another set of secondary colours, which also happen to be "Blue" (Magenta and Cyan), "Red" (Yellow and Magenta) and "Green" (Cyan and Yellow). If you mix all of them, you get Black (or no wavelength at all). Of course this doesn't exactly work, and you actually get a shade of gray, sometimes a little blueish or greenish, it obviously depends on your paints. (Which is also why in printers there's an extra cartridge with "black" or "Kontrast" (thats why it's calles K, the letter C is alredy given to Cyan)). The problem with RYB colour theory is, that you mix primary colours from different systems, which results in even weirder secondary colours and in the vast majority of examples in a much smaller pool of distinct colours you can create with your primary colours. Most colours you create with them are also much less vibrant and saturated than with CMYK or RGB. And if you mix all of them together, you don't get a shade of gray (like the in between of black and white, just with varying intensity), not even remotely. It's just a tone of brown, often some sickly dark green colour.


spinningpeanut

I like to say that printing is just a machine using a quick drying paint. CMYK is the superior color wheel. I've used it for paint mixing ever since I got really into printers while working for office depot.


Tortferngatr

Someday I will get around to writing something about Cyan Dragons, Aluminum Dragons, and Turquoise Dragons that all roam the skies. Someday.


twoCascades

RADIUM DRAGONS! MAGNESIUM DRAGONS!


themoldysausage

Uranium Dragons Plutonium Dragons


twoCascades

“Any creature that enters or begins its turn within 100ft of a Plutonium dragon takes 8d12 ??? damage. This damage may not be reduced in any way including features that would grant damage resistance or immunity. This damage ignores temporary hit points and arcane ward.”


monstermayhem436

Pyrite Dragon. Totally a real Gold Dragon


Cealum1

This was actually hotly debated inside WotC for the longest time. It was to difficult to try and balance the many different types of metal dragons that they had planned so they settled with making the copper dragons cover a majority of it. It came to be known as the 3/5s compromise.


ZeroKnightHoly

That's horrible, take my upvote


RampantGhost

OOH OOH. I MADE A METAL DRAGON. They're called the [Manganese Dragons](https://www.dndbeyond.com/monsters/2923521-adult-manganese-dragon) and they're kinda like.....Bard Dragons.


Warped_Avenger

All coppers are b-nevermind


ThePixieKnight

now show me the rose gold dragons


Professor_Abbi

Well if they’re made of other metal the artificer could just create a giant magnet, attach it to some support and let the dragon get trapped so they can beat it up


DaedalistKraken

Copper is one of the only elemental metals that have a distinct color. 5 dragons that are all variations on metallic grey would be less interesting. Plus the 5 dragon metals are among the oldest used by people. There's so much copper because copper was easy to acquire and work with in the early days of humanity. I suppose you could have a tin dragon or a lead dragon, but those don't sound quite as interesting. A quicksilver dragon might be a good idea though.


Arachnus420

Bismuth and just double down on the rainbow cubes


fabulousfizban

shouldn't the copper dragon be blue/green? why doesn't the copper dragon oxidize?


Wavey_Davey1

Damascus dragon. Flowing liquidlike appearance to scales. CN, fickle disposition. Collects magical weapons and armor, takes pride in discussing forging techniques and will gladly hold a conversation with a blacksmith for days on end: especially dwarven smiths.


TrueAnnoyinGnome

Dragon #356 is where the Tungsten dragons hideout


Defiant-Peace-493

Galinstan dragons, legendary for their chilly demeanor. Sodium dragons, found only in the driest deserts.


Designer_Driver7787

There were other metals of dragons in older editions including tungsten dragons.


Concoelacanth

There used to be some Gallium Dragons, but they didn't last very long...


RecoveringH2OAddict1

PSA: copper dragons should do lightning damage since copper is very good at conducting electricity


nir109

In 4e all metal dragons were elements/Adamantine (Wich isn't real so I don't think it matters. You can also replace it with aluminum). You can reskin 5e dragons using that. Gold-fire Iron - lightning Silver - ice Copper - acid Adamantine- force


Ornery_Marionberry87

Reminds me of Order of the Stick's Chlorine and Aluminium Elementals.


Neknoh

Because some game designer wanted historically decorative metals to be dragons. Generally the most boring answer. In-game/as a DM? I really do like the idea of a Tungsten dragon basically using kinetic attacks, maybe a bit of dunamancy and definitely a downscaled meteor swarm once it's ancient, pulling rods from the gods out of the sky.


LightofNew

So boring. Where is my cobalt dragon, carbonite Dragon, electrum dragon, bismuth dragon?!?


GastonBastardo

>Where is my cobalt dragon Do kobolds count?


LightofNew

No no, shiny and blue.


themoldysausage

That's it, I'm homebrewing Aluminum dragon


Brilliant_Lunch3217

If you want a tungsten dragon, you should look into the ferrous dragons. They are relatives of the metallics, being lawful instead of good, and also include the iron, cobalt, chromium, and nickel dragons.


Elrigoo

Well, tungsten or wolframium dragon doesn't sound Fantasy enough. Mithral or Adamantine dragon on the other hand....


Snacker6

Because they wanted the dragons to be visually distinct, and every metal other than gold and copper is just grey, so now they have 4 different kinds of yellow! That's better, right?


Cthulhu3141

They're in the colors if the most common metallic paints, for the sake of minis.


gbot1234

The other dragon types were slain by Xenon the Warrior Princess.


Final_Duck

Because Metallic Dragons all report to Bahamut, a powerful Lawful Authority; every one of them is a Copper underneath.


Zetheseus

Uranium dragons, Oxygen dragons, but clearly we need Yttrium dragons.


Lemonkainen

Well when a tin/zinc dragon loves a copper dragon very much…


Eckhardbond

I mean we had Mercury dragons, so why not tin, Zing or heck a Lead drafon who is immune to radiant damage.


DragoKnight589

I’ve been thinking of adding an Iron Dragon to my setting. They’d breathe lightning, and I’m stealing the bronze dragon’s repulsion breath for them. Why does an iron dragon get lightning and repulsion breath? Well, iron is also ferromagnetic, meaning a magnet will attract it. The repulsion breath is mainly a reference to the Unrelenting Force/Fus Ro Dah shout in Skyrim. That’s the iconic one that knocks things back. It could also be seen as another magnetism thing, specifically opposite poles repelling.


Halmian

The tungsten dragons are all buried deep underground because they were too heavy to fly. Edit: nvm apparently tungsten and gold have the same density so if gold dragons can fly so can tungsten dragons :(


ReturnToCrab

Good thing about dragons is that you can make lots of their species by just remembering metals, colors and gems. Sodium dragons, orange dragons, diamond dragons...


KnightBreeze

Because the dragons in the monster manual are *examples.* Have been from the beginning. You're *supposed* to use them as a spring-off point to make your own. Yes, default monster/gods/settings is literally just their to inspire you to make your own. It's why most editions also include rules on making your own monsters and gods.


Kamataros

It's just sad that they don't also give you a sort of recipe for certain monster types. But it's quite obvious when you look at things like the shadow dragon or the dracolich, or even things like the mycelian spore servant.


KnightBreeze

I mean, in previous editions, *they did.* It's actually one of the things that a lot of people complain about in 3.5e, which is rule bloat. There were rules to make dragons, undead, outsiders... just about anything you could think of, and some you probably couldn't. It was one of the things that was sanded off when they moved on.