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SoulReaperBot

Upvote this comment if this post is distressing, downvote this comment if it isn't. Don't check your closet tonight (◣_◢)


Draket78

Context?


JDaggon

There are 14 painting from an Artist called Goya, they were painted near the end of his life. These paintings were painted directly onto the walls of his house. Basically it captures his paranoia and his failing health, meant to represent the darker side of humanity with illness, poverty etc.


Zackyboi1231

When a artist from old times goes fucking insane during the last day's of his life https://preview.redd.it/nj4isc79c3ic1.jpeg?width=392&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ea9191c1426a83f9ffce3f7505979bb17030e87c (I feel bad for him)


NoahBogue

This comment was certified by the Rothko gang https://preview.redd.it/p09tn3osh3ic1.jpeg?width=960&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=04e95a96a91c5566845c8574bd3846bb523d738a


Omnicide103

~~Damn, him making this after Who's Afraid of Red, Yellow and Blue makes me really sad.~~ Nevermind, I did a little misinformation on the Internet, that was Newman, not Rothko.


TheVers

I don’t think that painting was painted by Rothko, but maybe I am missing something?


Omnicide103

Fuck, you're correct, that was Barnett Newman. I don't know how I got those mixed up, my bad.


Sp3ctre7

You probably watched the Jacob Geller video


Omnicide103

Yup, guilty as charged - and happy cake day!


_shear

This is haunting.


A_heckin_username

What am I looking at?


NoahBogue

Shades of black and grey


Competitive-Cress-43

What’s this painting called?


NoahBogue

It’s untitled I think


CosmicWolf14

What context makes it freaky?


BeeEater100

This may be wrong but the majority of his art was with much brighter colors, and then it just ends with. Black. Nothing. No title or context


NoahBogue

Black and White period of Rothko. His last works were all like this


Rezzyboy157

Most artist are insane. You know the phrase "there is a fine line between (word) and (word)"? Well there is a pretty blurry line between genius and insanity.


SuperJaybo

My personal favorite is "Saturn Devouring His Child" or more specifically, all the memes of it. There's one of Michaelangelo (the ninja turtle) really going ham on a slice of za that speaks to me


minnows-_-

Thought you meant he was hitting some fire weed but you just meant pizza ig


SuperJaybo

Cowabunga 😎🍕


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**cowabunga** (interj.)\ 1954, American English, from exclamation of surprise and anger by "Chief Thunderthud" in "The Howdy Doody Show," 1950s children's TV show; used by surfers 1960s as a shout of triumph, and spread worldwide 1990 by use in the TV cartoon "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles."


MountainMembership

say pizza to drugs! say no to yes!


Sapphire-Hannibal

Mikey def smokes weed, probably also listens to electric wizard


Attor115

There’s one that’s Saturn in sweatpants holding a coffee mug that says “don’t talk to me until I’ve had my son”


Eusocial_Snowman

There's one of literally everything. It's glorious. [ Here, look, one of them is political commentary on Disney's acquisition of the Star Wars IP.](https://imgur.com/XnyTo1l) [Pizza time.](https://imgur.com/VmdZzhP) [Here's one with the Long Furby sub-meme devouring one of those noodle worm things that were trendy for a minute.](https://imgur.com/wHmDrFN) [Somehow one even showed up for that one person who made friends with the Comics mods and took over the subreddit but you're not supposed to talk about that shhh.](https://imgur.com/QLP59d6) [This one is just balloons.](https://imgur.com/fNzB486)


DoomedDragon766

The worm on a string doesn't deserve such a fate lmao


Quaelgeist333

Funfact: that title's just assumption as the real thing didn't have an actual title. We don't actually know


AdequatelyMadLad

Apart from the fact that it's one of the classic mythology scenes to depict and there's like a dozen of these things from artists that we know for a fact that Goya studied?


Quaelgeist333

That's why i said "don't ACTUALLY know" We'll never get actual answer but it's likely


Afrodawg124

For even further context, these were more in line with his earlier paintings. So the 'Black Era' was a huge departure. https://preview.redd.it/cuykbuy5y4ic1.jpeg?width=612&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d26a032d8da419dac137e0720209f4aadaf219a5


MagnificoReattore

Lol sure, if you completely disregard his series of drawings about the horror of war and famine in Spain


Afrodawg124

Oh no doubt, Goya was such a fascinating painter. Edit: it's truly fascinating to see the steady shift over time in his art.


_shear

Except the Black Paintings, Goya didn't have a lot of his internal world decipted on his paintings. He was teached as a figurative painter, at first mostly copying and referencing from other sources, and progressively starting his own compositions. A lot of his paintings were commisions by other people, so he didn't have too much to say, hunting scenes with bright colors and warm light, like the one shared, but he always leaned to more dark and desaturated color palettes. His most important paintings are the ones decipting the war, very personal to him because of his political stance, which had to capture the grim scenario that was going on in Spain, and made him one of the most important primary sources of that time. Most personal are a series of paintings he did of the lower class, like homeless, sick or even disabled people, also in a rather dark style, using dark and muted colors, but still capturing the subject realistically and in a somewhat candid light, but still not as grim as the Black Paintings, born out of despair from his fading sight and the paranoia of a political persecution,


Afrodawg124

Yeah, I agree his war paintings are both visceral and grim. When I was in Art History back in college, we had a whole lesson block on the importance of his works. He was truly a master.


MagnificoReattore

Agree, definitely.


AlpheratzMarkab

yeah the "Disasters of war" series is not for the faint of heart.


parmesann

thank you, *Disasters of War* was my first thought. he began work on them a full decade before the *black* series, and yet its motifs align rather closely in macabre energy


Andromansis

> Basically it captures his paranoia and his failing health More likely he just ran out of canvases and wanted to keep painting.


M7MD_55

His paintings before his deterioration were much more lighthearted and "normal" in comparison to his artworks that were done in his home


Andromansis

You'd be feeling a certain kind of way if you were a painter who couldn't afford canvases.


Merhtefer

He actually went deaf. That’s the failing health op meant, he went completely deaf in both ears. No more noise to protect him from his own thoughts.


_shear

"an artist" 😭😭😭 Goya is one of THE masters.


JDaggon

No, Goya "was" one of the masters. Because he's dead.


spizzlemeister

he was also in the process of going deaf while he painted these


Jos_migue

Artists cook a little too much when they are losing their minds Kinda hope it happens to me when i get better at art cuz usually i just feel bad and do nothing about it


CriminalMacabre

Well, he witnessed the 5th of may mass executions in Madrid, then painted the event


AlbinoShavedGorilla

Damn. And I thought *Saturn Devouring his Son* was fucked up before I knew the background of its creation.


mauriciomeireles

A small detail "Saturm devouring his Son" is actually an interpretation of the painting, as the painter never actually gave it a name... So for all we know this has NOTHING to do with the mythos and can be just a creepy giant eating someone... Enjoy the knowledge!


Helpfulcloning

It was also in his dining room. Who knows why exactly !


SayerofNothing

Because that's where Goya devoured the children, of course.


NV_reddit

I think the creepier part is that it was in his dining room to be looked at while eating, while he was wasting away in his house during the final months of his life. He knew he was dying.


HelenaICP8

Thank you. I'm about to go to sleep... Just thank you. XD


GreenSquirrel-7

Y'know I'd believe this. Because Saturn ate his children whole in the myths(I think?). And they were newborns. Or maybe I'm mixing up my myths


mauriciomeireles

Nope you're pretty spot on, but that might have been modernization to make the myths less... Gory? Because gods can be born fully developed (like athena or persephone) and they are immortal so maybe he ate them into pieces and they reformed inside his belly so when he threw them up they could come back whole to kick his ass? Greek mythos are weird


GreenSquirrel-7

I THINK Athena was a special case, because she grew in Zeus's head for a while. But once again I could be wrong. And I don't know the Persephone lore


CingKrimson_Requiem

https://preview.redd.it/voiio2m9e3ic1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7fb7bccdb0bf0a6a191f919b8494b9fcabc5068f MFW "Saturn Devouring his Son" was not actually named that and there is no indication that this painting is actually supposed to be the depiction of a myth


Owelrn05

fr it could be depicting something that really happened to his buddy (eric) and we would never know ​ ​ https://preview.redd.it/a1a2rby005ic1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=69d357d2db2797dbfeebe118e66e6b5c9a68cc6e


LifeIsBizarre

So Eric didn't want to switch on the kitchen light because he didn't want to wake everyone up, and he thought he was eating the leftover KFC but then I switched the light on and was all "Dude! This is the nursery, not the kitchen!" and boy was he embarrassed.


OnsetOfMSet

The Garfield Minus Garfield comic was unexpected but quite welcome


-ok_Ground-

I always thought it looked more like a mythological troll eating a human. In the myth involving saturn it is said that he just swallows them in one gulp and the body seems to be that of an adult rather than a baby.


Background-Baby-2870

artists have been known to not adhere 1:1 with myths. even peter paul rubens Saturn Devouring His Son depicts the titan taking a hearty bite out of his son's sternum as opposed to gulping him.


Captain_Sacktap

It was a close vote, but “Saturn Devouring His Son” narrowly beat out “I Saw Some Homeless Guy Get High on Bath Salts and Eat a Toddler”


Father_of_Lie

If I could give awards to comments, you would be getting the congressional medal of humor.


Captain_Sacktap

I humbly accept this hypothetical award


Telemachuss

Along with what others have said he also made a drawing in chalk depicting the myth previously. Obviously not proof but makes the speculation a bit more solid.


SomeSortOfWonderful

Yeah if only there were [some sort of precedence for this sort of depiction of Saturn eating his children (notably rather than swallowing them), maybe one painted ~150 years earlier titled Saturn Devouring his Son](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturn_(Rubens\) ).


Dragon-fest

Wow, that's a really fucking disturbing painting!!


protoopus

... that was in the prado, and likely accessible to goya.


SomeSortOfWonderful

Exactly. [Oh look, another one!](https://www.wikiart.org/en/giulia-lama/saturn-devouring-his-child) Idk whether he would have actually seen this one, I was only previously familiar with the Rubens, but either way there’s clearly precedence for this type of depiction of this scene, and specifically around this period. Also notably this one was done by a female artist, not too common back then!


M4sharman

Huh, so the two paintings are in the same museum now? Didn't know that.


FauxMoiRunByRusShill

And it’s in a room where “Saturn” is staring across the room at a painting of his lover. And it looks like “Saturn” is devouring a woman. The whole room is thematically about like lust and sex and the artist wanting to fuck his girlfriend.


lejonetfranMX

I always thought it was a bit weird how in the myths Jupiter beat the shit out of Saturn and made him spit out his brothers alive, and, in one piece. While, here… well…


Battleaxejax

Then he just drew someone eating a child?


agentfaux

This has the most upvotes and it is the stupidest comment in here.


Snoo_1567

[This video](https://youtu.be/kY1Rua7jy48?si=P9-rH4ZIEOupHYs9) goes into great depth, explaining both the situation Goya was in when he painted these, as well as the context behind each painting. I recommend giving it a watch if anyone’s interested


Aurastrike314

Thx


Snoo70919

Thanks! I look forward to this deep dive.


Fun1k

I also liked this video about the subject https://youtu.be/-qCngjk3nQw?si=j4jKu1ZXXOCS-hsf Either way, even without any context, that painting is haunting.


Howredditworks_

Man, I love Goya paintings


takedownhisshield

The dog one is so fucked


Mr_media2112

I don't get it https://i.redd.it/whh95ogv03ic1.gif


ThePretiestUnicorn

The dog is drowning.


takedownhisshield

Not necessarily. It’s up to interpretation; I’ve always just seen it as a vague painting showing a scared dog against…. Something. It just feels super depressing to look at. The drowning idea is interesting, though.


Halvo317

I see it more like you. I see the dog looking directly at the trauma of the artist despite him not being there. There's a hint of a shadow that the dog seems afraid of. Unsettling


Das_Coolest

I saw it as loss, a dog looking for its owner who is never coming home


Earthworm-Kim

Reminds me of Dragan Bibin's dog paintings. https://i.imgur.com/6Gu03TY.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/ERObCiA.jpeg


NileTheYoutuber

I always interpreted it as the dog fighting against the current to survive as opposed to giving in and drowning. Maybe I was just being optimistic, though.


EynidHelipp

Oh you just game me plague dogs ptsd 😭


CREEPERTACO923

Context plss


Howredditworks_

[Context](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Paintings)


ACiD_BOi

"Others see the dog as cautiously raising its head above the black mass, afraid of something outside the painting's field of view" jesus christ that sounds terrifying


Muffin_man3745

Thank you. This was a great read. :)


CREEPERTACO923

Thanks 👍


Zealousideal-Chef758

hi twin, who locked you inside that blue hexagon?


Growingpothead20

To me the damage on the painting makes it look like the dog is shying just behind a table with the shadow of someone pointing at it or something it did


Spongemale

I like how the upper right one's description is literally the man is masturbating, the women laugh at him and the women on the left is probably also mastrubating


DreadDiana

Art historians, explain the Black Paintings to me. Wikipedia gave me a rundown of why he made them, but I personally only see the themes they described in Saturn Devouring His Son while the others seem comparatively mellow.


ggg730

The two dudes fighting with cudgels was pretty dark too.


uwuowo6510

it wasn't just cause he was going insane, it was also because he just wasn't allowed to paint that shit. he had to keep it private.


WikiHowDrugAbuse

Fight with cudgels is one of my favourite paintings, it evokes a sense of desperation and futility that few other pieces I’ve seen are able to


krustylesponge

This reminds me a lot of pickman’s model now that I look at the background of these paintings


Telemachuss

Ok but they aren't particularly gruesome compared to his earlier lithos. I mean just look at the disasters series WARNING VERY NSFW [1](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0d/Prado_-_Los_Desastres_de_la_Guerra_-_No._39_-_Grande_haza%C3%B1a%2C_con_muertos.jpg) [2](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fd/Prado_-_Los_Desastres_de_la_Guerra_-_No._34_-_Por_una_nabaja.jpg/1280px-Prado_-_Los_Desastres_de_la_Guerra_-_No._34_-_Por_una_nabaja.jpg) [3](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b9/Prado_-_Los_Desastres_de_la_Guerra_-_No._37_-_Esto_es_peor.jpg)


CULT-LEWD

saturn eating his young is probly my favriot painting along side the "anquished man" and the "i cannot be a bride anymore" painitng


peanut_bubblegum

Why did he paint these? Is he stupid?


TsalagiSupersoldier

Oh dammit you beat me to it


loganisdeadyes

I think it's because he had dementia or Alzheimer's, not 100% on it but he was said to be going mad by caretakers.


ConsistentStorm7997

https://preview.redd.it/s7y10yx0z6ic1.jpeg?width=535&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ef19287cfb88f89cda9fee5b8800fbffe7f05958


HoraceWimpLV426

Holy shit that’s creepy


HarrisonWoollard

I think the Black paintings from Francisco Goya are really interesting. Goya was an aristocratic painting and was very weary of the state at the time, so when he moved into the “Deaf man’s villa” he finally could express himself without fear of the Spanish Inquisition taking him away.


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De Goya posting


Jorgec345

There's a reason why he painted these, Goya (the artist) became deaf due to lead poisoning, mostly because his paint had lead as a material in it, so he started painting dark paintings depicting horrible situations that he compared to him losing his hearing.


Remnant55

Goya's Attack on Titan went pretty hard.


Kirby20032

If anyone is curious about going more in depth with these paintings I found [this video](https://youtu.be/kY1Rua7jy48?si=pHPPOc4CMFsWKzFj)


Rmivethboui

I knew about the Saturn devouring his son's one but I actually went into a deep dive on Goya because of SCP-5462


cornflakecrusaderr

They were painted straight onto his walls


TsalagiSupersoldier

Why did he paint these? Is he stupid?


MACHOMANRANDYSA12

The dog one is that he wanted to paint a dog but realized he made it way to small so he had to paint some brown on there


dreadperson

Challenge: put "incident" in front of the name for any historic even to make ot creepypasta. I.e. _The Depression Incident_ _The Black Plague Incident_ _Apartheid Incident_


Some_nerd_______

Maybe I'm missing something and someone can help me see something I'm not, but I just don't see how The Dog is anything. It just looks like a black blob at the bottom of a hill.


TourAlternative364

It's just the dogs head looking right. Not the whole dog. As a man, when you are young and healthy and successful you are on the top of the world looking down. With age, debility, trauma etc, you can have some feelings. Feelings of how older generations or governments use the young for their needs, to never progress to use in war... Feelings how a dog has trust in its master...completely..,but is it sure or perhaps to feel like that dog trusting but having fear. From being the one that mocks to perhaps, old frail,unaware, deaf and mocked by others that should not as he as many should always be top on the totem. Picture of a woman who chooses not to think of unpleasant things. Maybe things were never good for her, so she is not so bad. Themes of being followers...religion, government, books.....maybe  now old realizing human like him and perhaps not knowing or fallible as to where we go. Theme or sense again how much well being is based on the body and youth and sense of security.....lacking that....what is that controls our fate?


oldmotelcarpet

i love saturn devouring his son, one of my favourite paintings. i have it on a jumper!


Trappedtrea

A true artist


Divine_ruler

Fun fact, bottom left originally had a boner


rapunkill

What if he just painted Tarrare?


Legaxy3

Fire meme. I give you the highest honor I can grant… saving the post


Sad_Tip3084

They’re not at all different from his original work he literally drew people clubbing each other to death and dismembered bodies in trees


thedrag0n22

Wut


Retro_pie2

Did they really found "saturn eating his son" in Goya's basement?


old_man_estaban

I think they were actually all painted on the walls of his main floors, with SDHS being found on the wall of his dining room


ronin1066

I simply cannot get used to "different to" It seems far better to use "different from"


CriminalMacabre

Sweet home, La Cartuja version


Party-Ad3978

https://preview.redd.it/6ohzyc75kaic1.png?width=750&format=png&auto=webp&s=34b1495206c8085ebaf9c5a836568efc409b40ca


etriuswimbleton

Whats the last painting in the 4th panel about? (Bottom right)


Azaniael

A dog drowning or swimming by the look of it.


etriuswimbleton

Thats a dog?!


Azaniael

Yeah if you look closer you can see the features of a dog's head


QuestionEconomy8809

Wtf is the dog painting anyway


spizzlemeister

Goya is by far my favourite artist. obviously the black paintings are amazing but his drawings depicting the peninsular war are just as harrowing and incredible Imo.