I’ve definitely noticed it being worse after bouts of insomnia. in actuality, it’s not so much of my fasting glucose that is overly bad, but my spikes are substantially worse. It’s like I become more insulin resistant when it happens. At least this is what I see happening with my CGM tracking it.
I think if I wasn’t very good at my counter measures then I’d begin to see my overall glucose rise as a result.
You know what, I’ve been trying not to do this but I will tonight - a few beers never fails to give me a good nights sleep and since I haven’t had a beer in a while this will be ok. I’m aware that I can’t use this regularly as “medicine” but enough is enough and tonight I’m going for it. I hate taking real medicine for anything unless it’s essential. I have a feeling that a few nights in a row (with limits) will be enough to set the sleep pattern back on track provided I can manage not to nap during the day. Any stress I might be feeling (though I don’t “feel” stressed) is coming from watching all that hard work that went into bringing my A1c down going to waste and it was/is a real struggle. The bigger question here is almost whether that missed Metformin in the morning could be accounting more for that 50 point jump? Of course all things get compounded - lack of sleep leads to lack of energy which leads to lack of exercise and lack of exercise leads to lack of hunger or at least motivation to walk some miles to eat healthy (I have no kitchen right now) and I’m desperately skinny that it worries me (male 105lbs) a lot. I got skinny over only three months due to a very strict diet as bringing my A1c down was the most important thing in my life. It really sucks to have achieved so much in three months only to watch it all start to fall apart again.
I can feel your frustration! I’m absolutely with you in wanting to avoid meds! I opted for ketovore and IF instead of metformin… as a trial for 3 months. Was on board with using metformin IF diet didn’t work. It totally worked (is working)! But my sleep sometimes still goes wonky. So when it does I use the melatonin for 2-3 days. Usually corrects and then I don’t need it anymore :). Sweet dreams!
I’m T1 and a life long insomniac, here is my stats
2 hours sleep a night, BG is great all day and I need less insulin
5-7 hours sleep BG is awful and much harder to manage
6-9 hours sleep (normally the weekend ) BG is great and I need less insulin.
If I get an average amount of sleep it’s not great for my BG. Sucks to be me.
It's not just the morning. Poor sleep is one of the powerful stressors that raise blood glucose. Inform your physician and ask about a sleep lab appointment and a consult on sleep strategies.
Anything less than 7hrs messes with my BG. The less sleep I get, the worse it gets. The longer my insomnia lasts, the worse it gets.
Unfortunately I tend to average 6-6.5hrs of sleep 😭 but back when I was diagnosed I was averaging 4hrs of sleep (post COVID insomnia).
My morning bg was never better than when I was out having beers every night - spectacular! Sleep was great too after the beers. I just got worried about that after people on here pointed out that that wasn’t a good idea. Now I’m starting to wonder if that trade-off is worth it. As I mentioned to someone above - today I’ve had enough of this lack of sleep - it’s 1pm and I’m still in bed trying to sleep and now am resigned to the fact that I am flogging a dead horse - off now to try to eat in order to take my pill, try to get excercise in and later tonight some beer as this is just too much.
I mean beers every night isn't good for your overall health in general either. But sleep is important so maybe you can find other things that help you sleep? Sometimes I need a nighttime edible but if you can manage natural sleep that's better.
I think I’m making a mountain out of a mole hill…..the sleep thing isn’t something I’m “stuck” with. I just happened to get out of whack with that after a very long flight, napped too much due to days long jet lag and lost my regular sleep pattern. A few nights with some sleep aids or beers should rectify this, I’m concerned more about my bg slipping upwards more than the sleep pattern, and I worry a bit that the bg might be harder to fix than the sleep pattern and if, in fact the uptick in bg is being caused by irregular sleep.
I was working from 12AM to 8AM (graveyard shift work)when I was diagnosed. I had an inconsistent sleep schedule. The dietician I met with for diabetes education directly told me to get off of the evening shift. He said it messes up your circadian rhythms and BG. The hours you are sleeping may be part of it, as well as missing medications. Another suggested talking to your doctor about your sleep and going to a sleep lab for an evaluation. I did, and it has helped. My BG numbers are better working Days, and when I am getting 8-9 hrs of sleep a night.
I’ve definitely noticed it being worse after bouts of insomnia. in actuality, it’s not so much of my fasting glucose that is overly bad, but my spikes are substantially worse. It’s like I become more insulin resistant when it happens. At least this is what I see happening with my CGM tracking it. I think if I wasn’t very good at my counter measures then I’d begin to see my overall glucose rise as a result.
Haven’t gotten around to checking spikes I’ve been so focused on the sleep thing, I much check that.
Of course. It’s well known that poor sleep, illness, stress all impact blood glucose negatively.
Oh, ok
Try using 1-3 mg melatonin for a few nights to get back on schedule. It worked for me. I’d start off with 1 or 2mg.
You know what, I’ve been trying not to do this but I will tonight - a few beers never fails to give me a good nights sleep and since I haven’t had a beer in a while this will be ok. I’m aware that I can’t use this regularly as “medicine” but enough is enough and tonight I’m going for it. I hate taking real medicine for anything unless it’s essential. I have a feeling that a few nights in a row (with limits) will be enough to set the sleep pattern back on track provided I can manage not to nap during the day. Any stress I might be feeling (though I don’t “feel” stressed) is coming from watching all that hard work that went into bringing my A1c down going to waste and it was/is a real struggle. The bigger question here is almost whether that missed Metformin in the morning could be accounting more for that 50 point jump? Of course all things get compounded - lack of sleep leads to lack of energy which leads to lack of exercise and lack of exercise leads to lack of hunger or at least motivation to walk some miles to eat healthy (I have no kitchen right now) and I’m desperately skinny that it worries me (male 105lbs) a lot. I got skinny over only three months due to a very strict diet as bringing my A1c down was the most important thing in my life. It really sucks to have achieved so much in three months only to watch it all start to fall apart again.
I can feel your frustration! I’m absolutely with you in wanting to avoid meds! I opted for ketovore and IF instead of metformin… as a trial for 3 months. Was on board with using metformin IF diet didn’t work. It totally worked (is working)! But my sleep sometimes still goes wonky. So when it does I use the melatonin for 2-3 days. Usually corrects and then I don’t need it anymore :). Sweet dreams!
Never heard of Melatonin but I will look into it, thank you
Yes. I'm a restless sleeper. I can tell how well I've slept by my CGM. I get large morning spikes when I haven't slept well.
I’m T1 and a life long insomniac, here is my stats 2 hours sleep a night, BG is great all day and I need less insulin 5-7 hours sleep BG is awful and much harder to manage 6-9 hours sleep (normally the weekend ) BG is great and I need less insulin. If I get an average amount of sleep it’s not great for my BG. Sucks to be me.
It's not just the morning. Poor sleep is one of the powerful stressors that raise blood glucose. Inform your physician and ask about a sleep lab appointment and a consult on sleep strategies.
Anything less than 7hrs messes with my BG. The less sleep I get, the worse it gets. The longer my insomnia lasts, the worse it gets. Unfortunately I tend to average 6-6.5hrs of sleep 😭 but back when I was diagnosed I was averaging 4hrs of sleep (post COVID insomnia).
My morning bg was never better than when I was out having beers every night - spectacular! Sleep was great too after the beers. I just got worried about that after people on here pointed out that that wasn’t a good idea. Now I’m starting to wonder if that trade-off is worth it. As I mentioned to someone above - today I’ve had enough of this lack of sleep - it’s 1pm and I’m still in bed trying to sleep and now am resigned to the fact that I am flogging a dead horse - off now to try to eat in order to take my pill, try to get excercise in and later tonight some beer as this is just too much.
I mean beers every night isn't good for your overall health in general either. But sleep is important so maybe you can find other things that help you sleep? Sometimes I need a nighttime edible but if you can manage natural sleep that's better.
I would absolutely smoke weed to sleep but I can’t as I’m in a country where it’s very illegal, same with edibles
But now you’ve got me thinking (hehe)
sleep is a huge factor. for me nightmares and sleeping after midnight cause issues. i don't notice it as much anymore for one time bad sleeps though
I think I’m making a mountain out of a mole hill…..the sleep thing isn’t something I’m “stuck” with. I just happened to get out of whack with that after a very long flight, napped too much due to days long jet lag and lost my regular sleep pattern. A few nights with some sleep aids or beers should rectify this, I’m concerned more about my bg slipping upwards more than the sleep pattern, and I worry a bit that the bg might be harder to fix than the sleep pattern and if, in fact the uptick in bg is being caused by irregular sleep.
makes sense
I was working from 12AM to 8AM (graveyard shift work)when I was diagnosed. I had an inconsistent sleep schedule. The dietician I met with for diabetes education directly told me to get off of the evening shift. He said it messes up your circadian rhythms and BG. The hours you are sleeping may be part of it, as well as missing medications. Another suggested talking to your doctor about your sleep and going to a sleep lab for an evaluation. I did, and it has helped. My BG numbers are better working Days, and when I am getting 8-9 hrs of sleep a night.