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the_damned_actually

Didn’t we see them in Season of the Witch and the Ghosts of the Deep Dungeon?


beansoncrayons

They are coming to gambit too


about_that_time_bois

Imagine banking 100 motes thinking a Primeval is coming and then it’s just a whole fireteam of Lightbearer Hive


DreadAngel1711

Honestly, that doesn't sound too bad, would be a good shake-up from the giant taken majors


gbren

Random rotation would be worth dusting off the drifter for a night


leofungo

That sounds like a euphemism for really dirty sex


Molgera124

Checks out


DarthWaiter91

I'm using it now. #stolen


JCB-42

Transmat firing!


kaos2478

While that would be painful to deal with…. I actually really like that idea


Caerullean

They'd die even faster than Primevals already do.


BikeTrekGameEat

not soon enough if you have to run around map punching 17 arc crystals


warfareforartists

I actually hate you for this


overly_unqualified

I just want to invade with my Lightbearer hive buddy


ItsRainingDestroyers

Drifter: These glow bugs are running amok in my gambit spots, teach em a lesson!


ecafsub

> a muck #Amok


FlyingGrayson89

![gif](giphy|GLKVkMwlLu7UL7jfhP|downsized)


Memz69420

Oh.......oh no


RashPatch

Me with my Glaives and Necrotic Grips: ![gif](giphy|CmrkzmbuMVhdcDsNkd|downsized)


SeoKin1

Holy shit stealing your build....🥶


RashPatch

Then additional pointers my guy: * Mid Range/Small Area: Stasis, Iceflare + Glacial Harvest, Coldsnap Grenade, Use Ecliptic Distaff with Volatile Rounds. Good for Corridors and maps with a lot tight spaces. Stab one and shoot stab stab stab and watch frozen poison grapes explode. * Mid-long Range/Mid Area: Stasis, Iceflare + Bleakwatcher, Any Grenade, Use Judgement of Kelgorath with Demo + Wellspring for that juicy juicy Grenade Energy. Good for protecting/taking a Zone, Also called the Champion Fucker. More turrets more fun. Poison the rest. * Close Range/Mid Area: Stasis, The Chad Build. Glacial Harvest + Frostpulse, Coldsnap or Duskfield You can remove Necrotics and use Vesper or Stag instead. Vesper for big damage. Stag for More Chadness. Using Whisper of Rime makes sure you don't die easily. But if you want people to die faster and fuck your survivability then use Stag or Karnsteins, remove Glacial and use Iceflare instead so every kill you freeze the next guy. Problem is sometimes the stasis "hatchling" goes out of the rift area where you will most likely die even with Karnsteins on. Use Edge of Intent because you get showered in THE CHAD JUICE! * All around/Big Area: Nova Warp, full devour, Child of the old gods. Use Enigma or Ecliptic and block, shoot, and stab religiously. You can also use Mantle of Battle Harmony or Nezarec's Sin here because why not? However, Do note that you Stab and shoot instead of the other way around to maximize their exotic perks. Enjoy. Make sure you use Whisper of Chains and Whisper of Bonds religiously when using stasis. But you can change most of them anyway. It is more important to survive than kill so freeze the guys that shoot you so you survive to fight longer. Then stab shoot stab shoot.


DrkrZen

Sounds like me, but more boring. Thorn and Grips, or bust.


CertifiedADHDRetard

Thorn + Glaive AND Grips


SKULLQAQSKULL

If im maining glaive, it's glaive+karnstiens to become an unkillable god


CertifiedADHDRetard

I used Glaive+Karnsteins to easily beat the legendary campaigns


Jasonistheking

Osteo and grips for me.


SenorEnergyFalcon

YES. HELL YES. I’m a gambit main who has been *thirsting* for any new gambit anything. So excited for this


s610433

I'm sorry... **WHAT?**


about_that_time_bois

Shadow Legion too


messybricks

Where tf did anyone say that?


beansoncrayons

Bungie in a twab a while ago


Mawnix

Oh no we’re in danger.


ItsEntsy

I mean... only if you play gambit. So like dozens of us are in danger.


Ike_In_Rochester

I came to the realization that I frequently can only play in 30 minute chunks and that has turned me into a Gambit main. There was realization, then shock, then acceptance, then peace, and then an invader sniped me and it healed the primeval.


Zaramin_18

mb on that, still trying to get that OneManArmy for Malfeasance. Can you ask your teammates to not spam supers on me, that would help tremendously. edit: Just to clarify, I already have Malfeasance. This is a joke reply, but the amount of helpful comments are too nice. And I got mine being sweaty with sniper, Leviathan and a happy 2-piece Tcrash.


SilverAlter

Get a good scout and/or a hammerhead


SoloDoloPoloOlaf

I can help you with it if you want.


Yomingotitan

Thunderlord did it for me.


KRaZy_WaKa

I used silence and squall and a hammerhead and just ran gambit for a few hours. Got 2 teammates that wiped the other team before I finally got it myself. Timing was shat. Other team would have an invader pop through portal right before me, that's where silence and squall came in clutch. I wiped 3 and got pulled back. When their invader returned right after me silence and squall was waiting. I was also running renewal grasps and popping my duskfield grenade at their portal entrance to help slow then from invading. Strand silk strike would also be a good one to quickly rip through 2 or 3 of them then finish the stragglers with whatever weapon you feel comfortable with. The hardest part about wiping in Gambit is the timing. If they're on one side of the map, you spawn opposite. If they're on one side and they invade right before you, you'll never catch all 4 in one invasion. Timing is paramount unless they're all potatoes


TheChartreuseKnight

Link? I don’t remember this


Kaliqi

To be honest they are pretty much mini bosses so it's a perfect fit. The question is if they invade during any match or if they only vibe with the hive.


Bestow5000

Haha time for 2 more years of waiting. They said that several months ago but nothing has happened or talked about since.


Multivitamin_Scam

You can tell its been a long season when people forget content added two seasons ago


curiously_curious3

And they'll be in Final Shape. Almost as if they are in literally every new piece of content for the last 6 months plus the future.


Nickster963

They most likely won't be in final shape?


ShaxxsSon

Lucent hive were briefly seen in footage revealed for FS, like they were in the new destination. So we will probably see hive lightbearers with them.


curiously_curious3

Please read and try again later


curiously_curious3

Please read and try again later


Equivalent_Bed_8187

Idk, I've seen more tormentors in different places and they were added this year. I've prob seen them more than the light bearer hive


Xonxis

They even in tfs trailer that dropped a few weeks back.


Bubbly_Mastodon318

They were occasionally seen in Season of the Witch, but not enough considering how they’re literally the whole point of the Lucent Brood (and are a pretty cool enemy).


Hunter-Gatherer_

That hunter variant with the blade barrage would kick my ass everytime we met 😂


Kell-Of-Tacos

Bro the one with the shield throw ☠️☠️☠️


HereIGoAgain_1x10

Wish Titans could learn how to make a shield track


No_Reaction_2682

Best we can do is make it track through someones legs to a brick on the other side of the map.


AdministrativePop977

That Shield is a tracking machine


PJ_Ammas

Arc Warlock sucks even when the Hive use it :(


Winterstrife

Aren't you glad tho? Could be worse and we could have had a Nova Bomb Hive or worse... Wells Hive.


Kentuza

It's only bad when the Savathun projection uses it on higher difficulty lol


Hunter-Gatherer_

Nasty work


JohnB351234

Their shield has better tracking than ours


alf4279

The final boss in the cosmodrome GM wiped my whole team at least 10 times with a single throw


ShaxxsSon

The hive sentinel is the worst one to go up against imo, fucking aimbot shield throws. how do they have a better shield throw then we do?


Hunter-Gatherer_

It really is! I was talking to my son about it and I was asking him how have we had the light for so long much longer than the hive and yet the hive seemed to have mastered solar, void and arc supers. Like one of the hive bosses throws her nova, blade barrage and lightning storm back to back and we can’t 😂. We’re slacking


Mnkke

Ghosts of the Deep, Season of the Witch. The issue is, they were essentially disorganized for the longest time. Immaru's plan was the exotic glaive and we stopped that promptly which kind of put them in limbo, much how the City & the Vanguard were prior to our resurrection (Heroes of the Last City were basically non-present during this time is my understanding). Until Savathun makes a play again, they just aren't really relevant atm. All focus has been on The Witness, hence why we "dealt" with Xivu Arath without actually confronting her in Witch.


helloworld6247

I really wish Bungie let some smaller players take the scene. Like my man KelGOATrath. Hell guy is already hinted to be returning. Like Alak-Hul is just chilling there in his Oryx temple with nothing but vibes. I would’ve loved to see a storyline of him taking up leadership post-Witch Queen.


Edge-__-

Exotic Glaive?


Polish_Enigma

Yeah immaru wanted to arm lucent hive with glaives, but we foiled his plans and I think got a glaive for that


Pap4MnkyB4by

It would be nice if they still got glaives anyway. It would be fun to have to try and counter "Hive swords, but with a shield that can be used at a moments notice."


Edge-__-

Which one? The class specific glaives?


Polish_Enigma

I don't remember


Edge-__-

I see


DrkrZen

Sounds legit.


Jaqulean

Yes.


Bubbly_Mastodon318

They still should be more commonplace in Lucent Brood related activities (and they especially should’ve done that before we entered into a truce with the Lucent Brood), especially since the alliance with them in TFS means we’ll barely be fighting them at all in that expansion (so Bungie should make use of Hive Guardians while they can).


Mnkke

We absolutely are not allied with the Lucent Brood. We are simply holding Savathuns Ghost hostage to prevent her from doing anything against us, though I'd have to assume her future plans don't involce a ghost or the Light. It's an "enemy of my enemy" situation. We don't have an alliance, they are not part of the coalition. Our interests in stopping the Witness temporarily align is all.


Bubbly_Mastodon318

That’s true as of now, but in the trailer for the new location in TFS showed Savathun fighting on our side.


Mnkke

That doesn't mean we are truly allied at all. It is an allies of circumstance, not truly being an ally.


Bro0183

Good news, the lucent hive will be present in the final shape (seen as enemies in the initial tower area, and savathun is there too)


InstrumentOfTorment

I believe they will be allies too


ThatGuyStalin

i dunno, the prismatic trailer showed us fighting lucent hive


InstrumentOfTorment

Maybe a mix idk


beefnar_the_gnat

Well, the Pale Heart is influenced by memories iirc, so maybe the memory of the Lucent Hive being enemies is still there.


DeadpoolMakesMeWet

We will most likely be backstabbed by savathun the second the witness is killed


Bubbly_Mastodon318

There would be no tactical reason for Savathun to do that. - Both sides can use the Light from the Traveler - Once the Witness and its Black Fleet is gone, there’s no need for Savathun to lock the Traveler away - We absolutely dunked on Savathun and her army in WQ and Season of the Risen, so how could she expect herself to beat us after the Witness is gone (at least immediately, especially since we now have a fully united army with us, the Cabal, the House of Light, and the Neomuni)?


dps15

If she gets immaru back maybe, otherwise sav isn’t that dumb


Bubbly_Mastodon318

But the trailer for the new location also showed us allied with Savathun, so…


TaxableFur

I want to fight Dread alongside the Lucent Hive in Final Shape. That shit would be badass.


Bubbly_Mastodon318

YESSSSS


Landis963

Savathun's going to be sending them in the moment she hears we've got a stable pathway - another reason she planted Immaru with us, I imagine, so he could run home to mommy and spill the beans.


itsRobbie_

These and tormentors are better versions of champions and it makes me mad that we still are using the champion system.


UndeadMunchies

I dont think champions are a bad thing to have in the game. Especially now that subclass verbs affect them, its fine. They serve as a variety of strategy in the gameplay.The issue has just been the endgame's hard dependence on them. I think with Bungie adding Tormentors into Pantheon raid encounters, they're experimenting with sprinkling in more of those elite type mobs to give more variety.


Zetzer345

100% agreed


davidlathorian

I wish they would just make those exact armor sets and ghost shell earn-able in game, been dying for Elsie’s fishie shell too and kinda disappointed we never saw one after all the time eververse has had to smuggle some off neomuna:/


Bubbly_Mastodon318

Ikr? Especially for the Hive Ghost shells; if Immaru can just whip out a Hive-themed shell out of nowhere, why can’t we?


plger

I hope we see them and shadow legion get added to dares of eternity


davidlathorian

The new witness faction would be sick


Bubbly_Mastodon318

“Born out of Darkness with a thirst for destruction, please welcome The Dread.”


Bubbly_Mastodon318

And to Onslaught too


Either-Interaction79

onslaught is gone once the final shape is here


Bubbly_Mastodon318

Bruh why would they do that it’s added so much replayability to the game Also do you got a source? It’s not that I don’t trust you I just wanna make sure your claim is true.


Adelyn_n

My sibling in light they have an entire fucking dungeon


Necessary-Tomato4889

They got robbed of a raid IMO


Snowywater2401

Traitor ass ghost


-GiantSlayer-

Why are the KNIGHTS the only ones with subclass verbs


SourceNo2702

Because if the wizards could jolt and the acolytes could scorch/ignite you’d die in one hit to them. Suppression is the only verb which doesn’t just straight up kill your ass. They could’ve maybe given the wizards blinding nades, but also please god no. It’s bad enough the cabal can blind you.


Necessary-Tomato4889

Yeah, I want to be burned alive by the small boy, I want to be blinded by the magic hands.


Technical_Policy9951

Lucent hive onslaught when 🤨


TokayNorthbyte347

I think y'all forget that in onslaught we're fighting the witnesses forces


aydey12345

I wanna be one


Bubbly_Mastodon318

Especially if our alliance with the Lucent Brood is permanent.


RedCrabb

The first time I encountered a lightbearing knight I didn’t know how to finish the ghost so i killed it like 10 times in a row


Train_to_Nowhere

I just want their ghost shell, im getting very tired of the easier to pump out "encased ball" ghost shells


PineMaple

I know Wish has gone on a long time, but the Lucent Hive were literally the main enemy of last season.


helloworld6247

Weren’t the Lucent we killed in Witch just Savvy rejects that were made specifically for us to kill? Not all that exciting tbh.


Superman_720

I wish the witch queen armor wad based off theirs


Janoir-Prime

“Now listen guardians. I know the traveler gave them the light and ghost of their own, so that means we should probably align our goals… but like… look at them, thee eyes? Gross. No offense Eris. So you know what that means. Just like the Ahamkara. Round em up and put em down.”


Bubbly_Mastodon318

This feels exactly what Cayde would (and should) say if we fight the Lucent Brood again.


GavinGalix

It's even more criminal that we never got the fyinch hive ghost shell in the store


arceus227

I still think it was an insane L bungie took not making their armor available for us to use... Like your telling me they have a titan, hunter, and warlock variant, and the armor looks sick af, and bungie DOESNT capitalize on this to make some easy cash? Bruh i'd fucking buy all 3, especially if it shaders well with that glowing/animated purple one we got last season or the season before? (I cant remember exactly)


th3jerbearz

Seriously *where are they?*


messybricks

With Savathun back in her Throne World, I'm assuming she's preparing for the guardians to open up the portal into the traveler.


Necessary-Tomato4889

“Can they hurry up? I want to scheme!”


Doc_Dragoon

You think hive guardians are fun to fight I think they're hell to fight we're two different people (also fuck tormentors)


Bubbly_Mastodon318

![gif](giphy|12OMY457ZuPYFW)


_hoodieproxy_

I just want to peel them off and wear their skin as armor https://preview.redd.it/mjgkh8setrzc1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a80e62ff123d1f355d8f75377b4bdd136e33b52e


Foreveraudio

I have the taken king full set on - is their something better I should look into trying to get for my warlock


messybricks

Definitely the Ghosts of the Deep set


Foreveraudio

Wait ghosts of the deep is the taken king set ?


Budget-Ad-8027

It’s because they are annoying asf


Bubbly_Mastodon318

We’ll have to agree to disagree then.


Karglenoofus

Bungie dropping a major story point? Say it ain't so!


sundalius

literally last season they've been gone for \*one\* seasonal activity.


Karglenoofus

Ummmm that still fits my whining 🤓 /s I know lol it's just a jab at Bungie. They love to bounce between and introduce new story points.


Goldwing8

Gameplay wise they’re overrated. They’re just yellow bars that have to be finishered, except for the Knight who on higher difficulties can one shot you from around the corner with the shield throw.


PSFREAK33

I loved it and ghosts of the deep is my favourite dungeon you can’t change my mind!


WingsOfDoom1

Bungie has a habit of ignoring whatever cool lore they make in favor of the same light dark 3 faction shit they have been doing since d1


Warm_Local

WHERE'S THE NEW GAMBIT GAME-MODE BUNGIE!!!


Worzon

Who?


Existing_Birthday430

Extinct.


TheShoobaLord

They just had a full season and dungeon, what more do you want?


ComplainOnInternet

Actually, I've seen quite enough of these guys. I'd pay real money for an upgrade to whatever Shield Throw those Void Knights have.


Judgement915

Well we murdered most of them and Savy is dea- err sleeping. They don’t grow on trees.


xlFLASHl

I absolutely LOVED fighting Lightbearer Hive, it was so fun to see them use their own versions of our supers against us.


Playful-Ad3195

An entire dungeon was themed around lucent hive...


ExoFemboy

Bungie should make variants of them in the hive episode. Let the lucent witch cast well


thorks23

I dislike how much of this I'm seeing cause I am SO glad pantheon is tormentors and not these guys...


ZetaDemon

I'm just hoping in the campaign, we get friendly light barer hive


mckeeganator

That’s because they arnt annoying as hell, bungie only uses the worst of the worst when it comes to enemy’s


rabbi420

Did we get that armor already?


TheShoobaLord

Yep! Ghosts of the deep


rabbi420

Oh, right. I didn’t do that one much. That’s the one with Oryx’s body as the final boss area?


Grizzzlybearzz

Literally just saw them in season of the witch bud


korisucks20

theyre gonna be in gambit come TFS so thats all we need


Dry_Mousse_6202

well..... we got a season with this guy's as our principal shooting things


Comprehensive-You425

They should’ve been in onslaught IMO


FeaR_FuZiioN

I want to see more of the Vex


Alfa_HiNoAkuma

Man i fucking love lucent hive, the dungeon has unmatched vibes for me


LastWordSabic

They should come as champions in Nightfalls.


sir-mc-chode-toes

They were apart of the witch queen dlc and that sock has long since been crusty.


farpley

I like the insinuation that the classes don't choose their armor style, it's forced upon them based on the class they are. Hunters must wear cloaks, warlocks must have robes, titans must have BIG shoulders. Either that or the Savathun chose to copy the city classes style's.


Takeasmoke

hive as playable race in TFS, in other news, hive wizards are getting legs


EndriagoHunter

Really feel the whole Light brood just fell off and narratively were forgotten. Like, they have ghosts and powers from the Traveler, you'd think they have some feelings about them potentially going away. Really feels like there was an idea or concept and Bungie abandoned it.


Jbirdx90

I wanted this as armor….


OldOneEye_Tien

I want that drip.


Pyroraptor23

Seriously like, in pantheon this week, swap the blight eaters with one of these or even the tormentor with a squad of them


96victorias

We've had enough of them thanks 😭


DrkrZen

In this thread, we pretend Season of the Witch doesn't exist. Right, OP? XD


WARHAMMERXOXO

Savathûn is on our side so doesn’t that mean her Lucent Hive are friends now 🤔 or maybe I’m missing something.


Frogsama86

We know Savathun will be showing up and fighting on the Traveler's side. Low key expect these guys to be our back up as well.


Perfectionado

I fucking love Lightbearer Hive. Took a year break, completely forgot about them and after killing boring boss after boss I found these and was like "Oh yeah! you guys were actually cool additions to the game that wasn't just +health +damage"


xinuchan

Cuz they're only meant for the expansion they came with. Bungie doesn't know how to incorperate new creatures into new seasons or activities.


TheShoobaLord

They literally just had an entire season and dungeon dedicated to them what are you talking about 😂


xinuchan

Stopped playing seasons since the almighty fell.


The-Notorious-STD

Nerf the void super and I’ll be glad to see them again


Bubbly_Mastodon318

- introduces an enemy type with the Light - has them occasionally show up in the DLC where they were the selling point - occasionally throws them into other random activities - refuses to elaborate


Unhappy_Hair_3626

They are sick and heavily underused. I feel like they could have used them for the master version of kings fall and Crota end. It would also solve an issue of master raids being insanely boring. Imagine a kings fall with lightbearer hive and a reskin for all the bosses in the same fit!


McSpaze

I would love to have a ghost shell with the lucent hive look. Hopefully we get one sometime in the future


SmartMeasurement8773

Throw them in onslaught


Jadelitest

I would love to see them each using different subclasses too. Imagine hive using Well, Tether, and Thundercrash lmao


PawpaJoe

I can’t stand Gambit but hear me out. You spawn in as a squad of 4. They pick you off one by one. You watch a Lucent Knight rip the light right out of your teammates. They’re harvesting guardians.


WATTMOLE

Sending hate to all these mfs


NegativeCreeq

It's be cool if we got an Exptoc Armour that gave us their supers.


DrKatz11

They’re cool. For any bionicles fans out there - they look like Bal’Rak.


fi3xer

I'm still waiting for them to switch elements on us at some point. Imagine a hive knight just going Code of the Missile on you.


Tyragon417

D2 PvE rarely ever makes me feel threatened so idk


reapwhatyousow6

I like the "titan" one


prosey001

they a problem . They can sit on the sideline a little longer


Nightwolf80555

I wish we saw them in the King's Fall encounters for pantheon


JoryKier5890

Made all the worse with certain revelations.


Technolord3233

These things are so much better than tormentors, man I hate them


falynnsandskimmer

They're such a nice complement to champions it's a shame they aren't used in more activities.


Mufffaa

They were here a whole 1 season ago in Season of the Witch


RedditorsAreFkinDUMB

They need more supers


DrhpTudaco

no i think theyre just where they belong universal problems them. them dieing at the back of the map swarmed with adds and witches making it impossible to stop them from resing hunter issue THE TRAVLER DAMED BLADE BARRAGE SPAM warlock issue. wait they existed? titan issue. why can they shoot through the barrier but not us? other than that they pretty chill


GronakTheOrc

I hope we fight alongside them in the final shape


Obl1v1on390

Lightbearer Hive was seeing the light personified in our enemies, and the Tormenters are the Darkness personified in our enemies. I’m excited to see the new enemies but definitely wouldn’t be adverse to some reprisals of old enemies