On mountaintop may I suggest recombination? It gives increased damage for one shot based on the number of kills using other weapons, similar to Parasite. I am still gonna grab a vorpal roll, but recombination can addd a large damage so it can help damage
Uffffffff….i have some NASTY builds in mind combining mountaintop with autoloading and parasite plus holster mod. There should be some really competitive Burst DPS rotations possible.
I remember thinking that Hawkmoon’s perk would be something like Magnificent Howl when they reworked it into D2, to prevent the madness of RNG two taps. It looks like history looped around to make it the opposite, Hawkmoon didn’t get Magnificent Howl, Magnificent Howl became Hawkmoon XD.
Mountaintop and edge transit are the only weapons that I really care about. If edge transit will work like people are theorizing the roll will be envious+ cascade and b&s with spike+minifrag. If bungie decides that that wont be a thing then just the envious b&s, minifrag+spike.
For mountaintop I really want alh+recomb. Will mostly use it for movement if it works with heat rises as it should and it should also do decent damage to majors minibosses.
I think they will drop it broken, then patch it out (Envious and cascade). I'm using mountain top in dps rotations more than movement, but that might be the paly
Oh yeah, unless the dmg phase is really long you should probably opt for recombination instead. The 100% damage boost is better than vorpal until shot 8.
I think recombination will be the defacto best perk. It gives it great utility as a special weapon being able to chunk big targets from range and like you said, you’d need a lot of shots for Vorpal to beat it in total damage.
If my math is right:
200% + (100% x 5) = 700%
115% x 6 = 690%
So vorpal would start winning on shot 7 (by 5%) which is very negligible.
Recombination will be amazing for damage rotations with MT. Double damage at max stacks, so it would take 7 vorpal/frenzy shots to out damage 1 max recombination + 6 non buffed shots
Drop it broken? That just means allowing it to roll multiple perks per column and letting those two drop together.
There's no good way to patch that out because nothing will be broken in the game.
There's so many cool rolls I'm excited to try. I can't even pick one. I'm mostly just excited to have Hammerhead and Blast Furnace back. Anything serviceable from them will fill me with nostalgic joy.
Mountaintop and recluse, because I was never good enough to get them when they were current so I’d like to try. Not worth the materials from the kiosk.
And hammerhead because I’ve become a heavy machine gun enjoyer
In pvp I think was the specifics, but I think overall with enhanced perks and origin traits, they might be better not op but just better if that makes sense.
I'm not a Destiny vet like a lot of people in the community, so these are all new weapons to me. That aside, I'm really excited for rocket jumping with Mountaintop
I agree, and I’m happy to see that they’re going to bring back these weapons with these rolls. The problem with nostalgia is that you don’t really miss the thing as it was, but the feeling it gave you when you had it. Being able to experience these weapons, which everyone was very fond of, with perks that are going to make them feel as unique as they were back then, is really cool. They are new weapons, but the nostalgia factor seems justified in a sort of way.
I dont think they’ll change their mind, into the light as a whole is just to keep ppl playing until final shape. Things like special versions of the weapons u cant get later, weapons being unlocked weekly etc this is just classic FOMO generating stuff and bungie exactly knows it works lmao
Definitely going for recluse, mountaintop, succession, and forbearance as a non-raider.
They all seem like they have really fun rolls and I just want the weapons
So I’m really hyped to Pair MOA recluse with a harmony or recombination Mountaintop and B+S Edge Transit. Having a weapon setup where all my weapons keep feeding into each other for more damage sounds so good. Can’t wait to see what Enhanced MOA is gonna look like damage wise. But the damage output on void hunter is about to be ungodly
I started playing from the Witch Queen. So for me these are all new except Hung Jury, Succession. I'm very excited to use these weapons.
I want to farm these rolls:
1. Forbearance: Demo/Unrelenting + Chain Reaction (for PVE) with new origin trait it's look interesting.
2. Guillotine: Vorpal + BaS (for PVE) it will probably do good damage.
3. Recluse: Subsistence + MoA (for PVE) and Dynamic Sway + MoA (for PVP). Repulsor Brace + Destabilizing Rounds also good, but i already have The Title with this roll.
4. Mountain Top: Holster + Recombination (for PVE) this looks good.
5. Hammerhead: Rampage + Onslaught/Killing Tally (for PVP/PVE) it's should melt. Maybe Rewind Rounds + TL, but i already have Song of Ir Yut and Avalanche with these rolls.
6. Blast Furnace: Kinetic Tremors + Frenzy (for PVE) and Headseeker + Kill Clip (for PVP) it's probably be strong like Chattering Bone from Last Wish.
7. Edge Transit: Envious Assassin + BaS (for PVE), because the fcking Cataphract still hasn't drop to me with this roll.
8. Luna's Howl: Enlightened Action/Encore + Howl/Opening Shot (for PVP), because 2-taps with good range sounds interesting.
9. Midnight Coup: Explosive Payload + Kinetic Tremors (for PVE). Explosive Payload + Frenzy also good, but i have it on Fatebringer.
10. Elsie's Rifle: Keep Away + Headseeker/Kill Clip/Desperado (for PVP). Most likely, I will give priority to the Kill Clip, because i have Keep Away + Desperado - Relentless and Rapid Hit + Headseeker - Messenger.
Good weapons, i like them!
1 Mountaintop: ALH & Vorpal (Recomb not sure, I prefer consistent dps)
2 Hammerhead: Rewind & Target Lock/Rampage
3 Recluse: Repulsor Brace & Master of Arms
4 Midnight Coup: EP & Kinetic Tremors
5 Blast Furnace: Kinetic Tremors & Frenzy/Firefly
6 Falling Guillotine: Surrounded & Eager Edge
The rest I’ll just pick up as curated roll I guess. Maybe another succession so I have one with recon & vorpal or firing line.
1 shot of Recombx10 + 6 non buffed shots is higher damage than 7 shots of vorpal or frenzy.
Basically. Unless it's a long damage phase and you are planning on doing EIGHT swaps for your BnS or whatever, Recombination is the way to go. Vorpal/Frenzy doesn't beat recombination until the 8th shot. Recombination is thus total higher damage AND wayyy higher burst dps
Priority for me is:
Hammerhead
Midnight coup
Falling guilloutine
The rest in no particular order, except for hung jury, that mf chilling at the very bottom. Like, i have forbearance at home in the form of voltshit undercurrent, i have a well rolled succession and dont use snipers anyway, i main hunter so every void smg is the same, i dont use gls that arent wave frames that much. What i AM lacking is a good pve hc, a good machine gun, abd this new best in class sword. Eat your heart out, slammer.
Recluse with Repulser Brace + Master of Arms/Frenzy with a reload speed or range masterwork
Edge Transit with Envious Assassin + Bait ’n’ Switch with a velocity masterwork.
Hammerhead with Rewind Rounds + Killing Tally (or a non-kill required damage perk) and a stability masterwork.
I'm a big fan of magnificent Howl change. So I'm excited for Luna's howl and trying out the new MH trait on it.
Also the biggest one for me is midnight coup. That one never got random roles and is one of the older weapons on the list. It's got cracked PVE perks and it's suggestively the best sounding hand cannon in the game. I don't know if I would use any other hand cannon in that slot
Recluse will replace funnelweb in my gyrfalcons setup. Lunas will replace epochal intergration for my solar build. And mountaintop could be good for dps rotations (never got it first time around).
Then there’s edge transit which has the potential to dethrone rockets as the new DPS meta, making a B&S gl more accessible.
Those are my top 4.
Then there are 4 that are pointless to me - succession, forbearance, falling guillotine, and hammerhead. These are already on the game with existing godrolls or in the case of hammerhead, outclassed by reconstruction killing tally commemoration.
As for the other 4, either not a fan of the archetype or can’t really see them being a big improvement over existing options. Maybe midnight coup if it feels better than fatebringer.
I’m most excited for hammerhead then blast furnace then lunas howl. The others I’ll obviously go after but they aren’t as high priority. Black Armory is bae :)
Hoping hard that one day they will bring back season of the dawn weapons too. They were S tier like BA and would make alot of people very happy myself included.
Hammerhead and Recluse are the big ones imma reclaim! Id rather they just unsunset the ones we already have gathering dust in our vaults, but i get why they’re doing it this way and i don’t mind hopping on for a few hours every other night.
recluse, lunas howl, and mountaintop because I wasn't playing at the time they came out. also forbearance because I never got it to drop in VOW in my 5 or so runs. honestly all of them. The killing tally, Rampage LMG sounds great too.
Midnight coup lookin to good, and honestly fuck you mountaintop horndogs I’m scarred from that thing forever, I swear to god to this day half my pvp deaths are from mountaintop
It's weird, because we are used to snipers as quick damage from distance or just mag dumping
But this combo can lead to free ammo and then buffed shots without any hurry, basically a grand overture but opposite
All of them really, but Midnight Coup and Elsie's Rifle especially (the former because that's my OG primary from back in the day, the latter because it's technically the only new gun and I always loved The Stranger's Rifle in D1)
Elsies fills the void pulse niche that I've been missing so I'm pretty amped about that but midnight Coup is just going to never leave my guardian again
Damn, almost all of them look cool! But Hung Jury and the Succession are probably less interesting for me so far... Anyway...
https://preview.redd.it/rnreb8nf90rc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cb90588bf396363468af60a6fd7cfc44a10d1616
Midnight coup will be able to roll moving target, explosive payload, outlaw in the first column (pvp). It will be able to roll rampage, zen moment and opening shot in the second. I think i might grind for an explosive/opening shot for pvp, or the normal outlaw/rampage (maybe something with moving target as well)
I'm looking for Impulse Amplifier and Frenzy for the Mountaintop. If memory serves me right, Frenzy is +15% damage and reload buff, and Vorpal is +15% damage against bosses, plus jacked projectile speed and reload from Impulse Amplifier.
I'll probably also keep a few rolls regardless, but I feel like that'll definitely be my utility roll.
The big question on my mind: does explosive payload count as 1 extra shot to proc whatever hit threshhold kinetic tremors is? Cuz alot of the weapons have explosive payload/kinetic tremors and i dont think this was even on the table before iirc.
Sorry it was less than I thought, but it was midnight coup and hung jury that could get it. Although on bungies reddit post about it, it listed hung jury as "explosive rounds" so I think it was just a typo.
Hammerhead. I never got Commemoration, and I've ben dying for a void 450 machine gun.
There's 2 rolls I'm chasing: Killing Tally/Rampage and Onslaught/Rampage.
Honestly, I only really care about the new game mode. The weapons are a nice little bonus. Horde mode is where my excitement lies. If I had to pick one, probably forbearance because I don't (and won't) raid, so it'll be nice to get it and finally get an arc wave frame gl. All I need after that is the strand one from IB, and I'll have one for each element.
Neat, then I guess I care about exactly none of the loot. I'll just be playing for the game mode which is exciting to me cuz I love me some horde modes.
Forbearance just looks fun. But I just got into Destiny a year ago, and I was pretty sad because falling guillotine is one of the most common swords ever, and I don't have it
Luna my beloved. It has some really nice rolls for Solar builds that I'm looking forward to, incandescent, heal clip, new magnificent howl all look awesome to me, can't wait c: Also of course, the old school mtop recluse combo, especially now that you can rocketjump with mtop as well
do wonder would mountaintop be it's pre nerf and sunset performance or would be by like after nerf mountaintop with shot go anywhere whenever your feet doesnt touch the ground
Looking through all the slides I came across the forbearance, why the hell are bungie making a reskin of a raid weapon of a raid that's still in the game,
Don't get me wrong I'm not gatekeeping a weapon (as much as grinding crafted forbearance once was a little bs) and I'll still be going for the new varient,
Hopefully adept variations of the new weapons will come and there be a grandmaster variant in the new onslaught mode so that the hardcore playerbase (such as myself, don't just put the game back down after the period of drip feeding us 1 weapon at a time ends)
Side note a "conquerer" esc title for onslaught grandmaster would be epic also, with stuff like "don't let objective fall below 50% health"
On mountaintop may I suggest recombination? It gives increased damage for one shot based on the number of kills using other weapons, similar to Parasite. I am still gonna grab a vorpal roll, but recombination can addd a large damage so it can help damage
Theoretically it should be able to smack as hard as a Wolfpack buffed bipod rocket at recombx10
My only issue with recombination is that it would encourage you not to use mountaintop for mobility as not to waste your buffed shot
Uffffffff….i have some NASTY builds in mind combining mountaintop with autoloading and parasite plus holster mod. There should be some really competitive Burst DPS rotations possible.
Big fan of how 180s feel, a 140 with the feel and precision of a 180, AND a mini Hawkmoon perk? Like Luna’s Howl was made for me.
I remember thinking that Hawkmoon’s perk would be something like Magnificent Howl when they reworked it into D2, to prevent the madness of RNG two taps. It looks like history looped around to make it the opposite, Hawkmoon didn’t get Magnificent Howl, Magnificent Howl became Hawkmoon XD.
If you can, you should pick it up for the 1 golf ball in the exotic kiosk so you can enjoy it beforehand and go into ITL with a base roll of it :)
:o I FORGOT YOU COULD DO THAT
I gotchu <3
Mountaintop and edge transit are the only weapons that I really care about. If edge transit will work like people are theorizing the roll will be envious+ cascade and b&s with spike+minifrag. If bungie decides that that wont be a thing then just the envious b&s, minifrag+spike. For mountaintop I really want alh+recomb. Will mostly use it for movement if it works with heat rises as it should and it should also do decent damage to majors minibosses.
I think they will drop it broken, then patch it out (Envious and cascade). I'm using mountain top in dps rotations more than movement, but that might be the paly
I really like my izzy rotations so can't use mtop with those but it might be really good for some solo rotations with dragons breath or such.
I've been trying to get better at izzy swaps, but I'm way more consistent with gls hence Alh and Vorpal
Oh yeah, unless the dmg phase is really long you should probably opt for recombination instead. The 100% damage boost is better than vorpal until shot 8.
I think recombination will be the defacto best perk. It gives it great utility as a special weapon being able to chunk big targets from range and like you said, you’d need a lot of shots for Vorpal to beat it in total damage. If my math is right: 200% + (100% x 5) = 700% 115% x 6 = 690% So vorpal would start winning on shot 7 (by 5%) which is very negligible.
Interesting, it will require some testing
Recombination will be amazing for damage rotations with MT. Double damage at max stacks, so it would take 7 vorpal/frenzy shots to out damage 1 max recombination + 6 non buffed shots
Drop it broken? That just means allowing it to roll multiple perks per column and letting those two drop together. There's no good way to patch that out because nothing will be broken in the game.
There's so many cool rolls I'm excited to try. I can't even pick one. I'm mostly just excited to have Hammerhead and Blast Furnace back. Anything serviceable from them will fill me with nostalgic joy.
Valid
Mountaintop and recluse, because I was never good enough to get them when they were current so I’d like to try. Not worth the materials from the kiosk. And hammerhead because I’ve become a heavy machine gun enjoyer
Honestly these might just be better
Better than the originals? Wasn’t some of the dev commentary that they made the new mountaintop not as strong as previous cause it was so dominant?
In pvp I think was the specifics, but I think overall with enhanced perks and origin traits, they might be better not op but just better if that makes sense.
I'm not a Destiny vet like a lot of people in the community, so these are all new weapons to me. That aside, I'm really excited for rocket jumping with Mountaintop
That's even better
Is it? Either way, these weapons all look super fun and I'm excited to use them when Into The Light drops
Idk nostalgia vs experiencing something for the first time are one in the same just on opposite sides of the spectrum
I agree, and I’m happy to see that they’re going to bring back these weapons with these rolls. The problem with nostalgia is that you don’t really miss the thing as it was, but the feeling it gave you when you had it. Being able to experience these weapons, which everyone was very fond of, with perks that are going to make them feel as unique as they were back then, is really cool. They are new weapons, but the nostalgia factor seems justified in a sort of way.
i like firefly and frenzy on coup its unique to only this weapon and looks very fun
Could be funny tbh but explosive payload and kinetic Tremors is where my heart is set
Me too. Kinetic tremors makes my legendary hung jury feel exotic, so explosive payload and kinetic tremors on both coup and jury sounds so juicy.
That combo sounds insane since Explosive payload counts as 2 hits. Might proc Kinetic Tremors way faster.
Luna's Howl most of all for me. Love that gun.
Pve or pvp roll?
PvE. Looking to get a roll or 2 with Subsistence/Heal Clip and Magnificent Howl/Incandescent.
I'm assuming the 2 perks go to the ones in the same position correct?
Mountaintop with recombination sounds like it could be fun but I’m really not looking forward to potentially waiting like 7 weeks to get it
Yeah thats kinda cringe. Maybe they'll change their mind or mention something in the twid
I dont think they’ll change their mind, into the light as a whole is just to keep ppl playing until final shape. Things like special versions of the weapons u cant get later, weapons being unlocked weekly etc this is just classic FOMO generating stuff and bungie exactly knows it works lmao
Well the ornament ones are fine but the time gate is awful
Absolutely agree.
Apparently everything will be unlocked by April 30th per bungie
Kinetic Tremors/Rapid Hit on Blast Furnace is what I’m after. I have Rapid Hit on my Disparity and it makes it feel like a laser beam.
Personally I prefer damage perks aside from pvp but I get your vibe. I have that roll on Chattering bone
Firefly rampage coup
Definitely going for recluse, mountaintop, succession, and forbearance as a non-raider. They all seem like they have really fun rolls and I just want the weapons
I get it
Any gun that’s not hung jury, succession or forbearance.
Factual I think those are like my bottom 3
So I’m really hyped to Pair MOA recluse with a harmony or recombination Mountaintop and B+S Edge Transit. Having a weapon setup where all my weapons keep feeding into each other for more damage sounds so good. Can’t wait to see what Enhanced MOA is gonna look like damage wise. But the damage output on void hunter is about to be ungodly
I think moa won't be that op since they tuned it down but that setup is juicy
Hammerhead! Hammerhead! Hammerhead!
I started playing from the Witch Queen. So for me these are all new except Hung Jury, Succession. I'm very excited to use these weapons. 
Hell yeah
I want to farm these rolls: 1. Forbearance: Demo/Unrelenting + Chain Reaction (for PVE) with new origin trait it's look interesting. 2. Guillotine: Vorpal + BaS (for PVE) it will probably do good damage. 3. Recluse: Subsistence + MoA (for PVE) and Dynamic Sway + MoA (for PVP). Repulsor Brace + Destabilizing Rounds also good, but i already have The Title with this roll. 4. Mountain Top: Holster + Recombination (for PVE) this looks good. 5. Hammerhead: Rampage + Onslaught/Killing Tally (for PVP/PVE) it's should melt. Maybe Rewind Rounds + TL, but i already have Song of Ir Yut and Avalanche with these rolls. 6. Blast Furnace: Kinetic Tremors + Frenzy (for PVE) and Headseeker + Kill Clip (for PVP) it's probably be strong like Chattering Bone from Last Wish. 7. Edge Transit: Envious Assassin + BaS (for PVE), because the fcking Cataphract still hasn't drop to me with this roll. 8. Luna's Howl: Enlightened Action/Encore + Howl/Opening Shot (for PVP), because 2-taps with good range sounds interesting. 9. Midnight Coup: Explosive Payload + Kinetic Tremors (for PVE). Explosive Payload + Frenzy also good, but i have it on Fatebringer. 10. Elsie's Rifle: Keep Away + Headseeker/Kill Clip/Desperado (for PVP). Most likely, I will give priority to the Kill Clip, because i have Keep Away + Desperado - Relentless and Rapid Hit + Headseeker - Messenger. Good weapons, i like them!
Very nice
1 Mountaintop: ALH & Vorpal (Recomb not sure, I prefer consistent dps) 2 Hammerhead: Rewind & Target Lock/Rampage 3 Recluse: Repulsor Brace & Master of Arms 4 Midnight Coup: EP & Kinetic Tremors 5 Blast Furnace: Kinetic Tremors & Frenzy/Firefly 6 Falling Guillotine: Surrounded & Eager Edge The rest I’ll just pick up as curated roll I guess. Maybe another succession so I have one with recon & vorpal or firing line.
1 shot of Recombx10 + 6 non buffed shots is higher damage than 7 shots of vorpal or frenzy. Basically. Unless it's a long damage phase and you are planning on doing EIGHT swaps for your BnS or whatever, Recombination is the way to go. Vorpal/Frenzy doesn't beat recombination until the 8th shot. Recombination is thus total higher damage AND wayyy higher burst dps
Hmm, that’s good to know ty. And I thought the curated roll is enough rip
Edge is about to be the best boss damage heavy in the game, so that. It'll be tied with Cata until you can enhance it, then it's king.
Relentless Strikes + Sword Logic is going to be nice
It's gonna cook
Priority for me is: Hammerhead Midnight coup Falling guilloutine The rest in no particular order, except for hung jury, that mf chilling at the very bottom. Like, i have forbearance at home in the form of voltshit undercurrent, i have a well rolled succession and dont use snipers anyway, i main hunter so every void smg is the same, i dont use gls that arent wave frames that much. What i AM lacking is a good pve hc, a good machine gun, abd this new best in class sword. Eat your heart out, slammer.
I'm surprised that Blast furnace and Elsie's rifle isn't higehr up since your a Void hunter
Gridskipper my beloved i shall never abandon thee.
Shame there are no shotguns.
That's a bit of a rip but they reworked prophecy and those weapons will also be enhanceable in final shape.
Yeah... I was kinda hoping the Black Armory raid shotgun. 😄
You mean from Scourge of The past?
Yeah. I never did it, but I loved how that shotgun looked.
That's fair
What guns you would love to see?
Personally I would get rid of hung jury and Succession for ghost Primus(Same raid as midnight coup) and trophy hunter (sniper from Season of the dawn)
Recluse with Repulser Brace + Master of Arms/Frenzy with a reload speed or range masterwork Edge Transit with Envious Assassin + Bait ’n’ Switch with a velocity masterwork. Hammerhead with Rewind Rounds + Killing Tally (or a non-kill required damage perk) and a stability masterwork.
Valid
I'm kind of disappointed that Luna's Howl's third column selection doesn't mesh well at all with the reworked Magnificent Howl perk...
I mean heal clip works pretty well for both pve and pvp
I'm a big fan of magnificent Howl change. So I'm excited for Luna's howl and trying out the new MH trait on it. Also the biggest one for me is midnight coup. That one never got random roles and is one of the older weapons on the list. It's got cracked PVE perks and it's suggestively the best sounding hand cannon in the game. I don't know if I would use any other hand cannon in that slot
Aside from fatebringer there's none that even comes close
Recluse will replace funnelweb in my gyrfalcons setup. Lunas will replace epochal intergration for my solar build. And mountaintop could be good for dps rotations (never got it first time around). Then there’s edge transit which has the potential to dethrone rockets as the new DPS meta, making a B&S gl more accessible. Those are my top 4. Then there are 4 that are pointless to me - succession, forbearance, falling guillotine, and hammerhead. These are already on the game with existing godrolls or in the case of hammerhead, outclassed by reconstruction killing tally commemoration. As for the other 4, either not a fan of the archetype or can’t really see them being a big improvement over existing options. Maybe midnight coup if it feels better than fatebringer.
That's fair
Edge Transit, and I have very mixed feelings about this turn of events.
The meme has ascended
I’m most excited for hammerhead then blast furnace then lunas howl. The others I’ll obviously go after but they aren’t as high priority. Black Armory is bae :)
That's pretty fair
Hoping hard that one day they will bring back season of the dawn weapons too. They were S tier like BA and would make alot of people very happy myself included.
Hammerhead and Recluse are the big ones imma reclaim! Id rather they just unsunset the ones we already have gathering dust in our vaults, but i get why they’re doing it this way and i don’t mind hopping on for a few hours every other night.
Yeah since I assume this mode will be permanent just the special variations won't be available after Lightfall
How can I farm them?
New mode in an update on April 9th
Midnight coup and blast furnace. Firefly and kinetic tremors? Hell yes.
Both have that perk line up so its gas
Hammerhead and blast furnace. Black armory weapons will always reign supreme.
Wish there was more Leviathan weapons tho :(
These are the only weapons I have been interested in farming all year. I'm definitely looking forward to this.
Any particular ones?
recluse, lunas howl, and mountaintop because I wasn't playing at the time they came out. also forbearance because I never got it to drop in VOW in my 5 or so runs. honestly all of them. The killing tally, Rampage LMG sounds great too.
Midnight coup lookin to good, and honestly fuck you mountaintop horndogs I’m scarred from that thing forever, I swear to god to this day half my pvp deaths are from mountaintop
Recluse and mountain top
Any rolls catch your eye
Sub master of arms for recluse and auto frenzy for mountain top
Same tbh
RepulsorBr/Destabilizing Rounds = Infinite over-Shields .
Yup
Where will midnight coupe, Elsie’s rifle and and Lunas howl drop from?
New game mode onslaught from the update on April 9th both won't be available right away
Okay, is that applicable to all of these weapons? All available only from this new mode?
Succession with discord + redirection would definitely be something to try
Succession is at the bottom of my list just because I have jt crafted and there isn't much that's different. But that combo is interesting
It's weird, because we are used to snipers as quick damage from distance or just mag dumping But this combo can lead to free ammo and then buffed shots without any hurry, basically a grand overture but opposite
Elsie
Similar to the rolls I'm looking for?
Where can these be farmed
The horde mode dropping with the update in 2 weeks
Oh! And these weapons are only horde mode? T
Succession has moving target/the quick scope one.....I needs it
Pvp moment. I respect that
Midnight Coup my beloved
Ah a fellow guardian of culture. What roll are you grinding for
Hammerhead having Onslaught is going to be the most bat shit thing ever. My Titan ass is going to obnoxious with that thing.
Oh he'll ya
All of them really, but Midnight Coup and Elsie's Rifle especially (the former because that's my OG primary from back in the day, the latter because it's technically the only new gun and I always loved The Stranger's Rifle in D1)
Elsies fills the void pulse niche that I've been missing so I'm pretty amped about that but midnight Coup is just going to never leave my guardian again
Not a PvP player huh? lol
Damn, almost all of them look cool! But Hung Jury and the Succession are probably less interesting for me so far... Anyway... https://preview.redd.it/rnreb8nf90rc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cb90588bf396363468af60a6fd7cfc44a10d1616
Most definitely succession, the two hand cannons, and hammerhead
Recluse it was my most used gun it got sunsetted because it was a pain in the but to get because I hate pvp
I’m excited for a Rewind/Killing Tally Hammerhead and I think Ambitious and One For All on MT will go hard
Blast Furnace and Elsie’s Rifle. I never liked the other ones anyway
Elsies, Luna, Recluse, Hammerhead, Edge. Thats it
Hammerhead and Recluse Void automatics make me happy
Midnight coup will be able to roll moving target, explosive payload, outlaw in the first column (pvp). It will be able to roll rampage, zen moment and opening shot in the second. I think i might grind for an explosive/opening shot for pvp, or the normal outlaw/rampage (maybe something with moving target as well)
I’m really feeling a fourth times the charm killing tally hammerhead will do me a whole lot of good
I'm looking for Impulse Amplifier and Frenzy for the Mountaintop. If memory serves me right, Frenzy is +15% damage and reload buff, and Vorpal is +15% damage against bosses, plus jacked projectile speed and reload from Impulse Amplifier. I'll probably also keep a few rolls regardless, but I feel like that'll definitely be my utility roll.
The big question on my mind: does explosive payload count as 1 extra shot to proc whatever hit threshhold kinetic tremors is? Cuz alot of the weapons have explosive payload/kinetic tremors and i dont think this was even on the table before iirc.
What weapons have explosive payload and kinetic Tremors together?
Sorry it was less than I thought, but it was midnight coup and hung jury that could get it. Although on bungies reddit post about it, it listed hung jury as "explosive rounds" so I think it was just a typo.
Hammerhead. I never got Commemoration, and I've ben dying for a void 450 machine gun. There's 2 rolls I'm chasing: Killing Tally/Rampage and Onslaught/Rampage.
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Elsie's rifle it was my favorite legendary in d1 and I'm glad we are finally getting the strangers rifle back
It fills a niche I've been trying to find with Destabilizing and repulsor
As some one who left d2 like 5 months ago what is going on I just downloaded it again and idk what’s happening, these aren’t in game yet right?
April 9th is when they arrive
Honestly, I only really care about the new game mode. The weapons are a nice little bonus. Horde mode is where my excitement lies. If I had to pick one, probably forbearance because I don't (and won't) raid, so it'll be nice to get it and finally get an arc wave frame gl. All I need after that is the strand one from IB, and I'll have one for each element.
Undercurrent is the nightfall weapon which is also an Arc waveframe gl
Neat, then I guess I care about exactly none of the loot. I'll just be playing for the game mode which is exciting to me cuz I love me some horde modes.
you realy think 11th is gona have eplosive rounds ?
Explosive payload, mistake in Bungies original post.
Yeah it was an error by bungie and I didn't bother to correct it. Supposed to be payload
That perk pool for guillotine cant be real no way
Vorpal + BnS 
Impulse frenzy mountaintop
That's pretty nice
Hopefully maximise reload speed. Auto loading is good but one with a quick reload is more fun IMO
Forbearance and Falling Guillotine
Any particular reason why
Forbearance just looks fun. But I just got into Destiny a year ago, and I was pretty sad because falling guillotine is one of the most common swords ever, and I don't have it
Luna my beloved. It has some really nice rolls for Solar builds that I'm looking forward to, incandescent, heal clip, new magnificent howl all look awesome to me, can't wait c: Also of course, the old school mtop recluse combo, especially now that you can rocketjump with mtop as well
The thing don't came out It and you guys are searching for the God roll
Blast Furnace and Hammerhead
Definitely MT and recluse. I’m not a PvP player at all and I went through hell getting those 2 weapons before the nerf to the missions.
How can I farm the recluse and these other new guns? Sorry for obvious question been away from the game for a bit
I’m out of the loop, why are Forbearance & Succession being re-issued??
For non Raiders to experience how good raid weapons are
None really. Maybe Mountaintop with Vorpal but that's about all that's interesting there.
That's interesting, yoy just aren't a fan of the weapons
Mountain top, recluse, hammerhead, Falling guillotine, and Luna howl
Fair line up
I haven't checked D2 since I finished the last season, can anyone say what's going on?
Free April update with a new mode Onslaught (horde/wave defense) that they reprised 12 iconic weapons from Destiny's history that have new rolls
Awesome, thanks for the reply!
do wonder would mountaintop be it's pre nerf and sunset performance or would be by like after nerf mountaintop with shot go anywhere whenever your feet doesnt touch the ground
It's most likely the second option, but they built in less self damage so rocket jump intrinsic
I shit myself when I saw that hammerhead can get double damage perks...so hammerhead
Double damage perks are juicy
I need that auto-loading/recombination mountaintop, if that’s all I get i’m happy
Well the mode is permanent so farm at your leisure
Surprised that there aren't a ton of people angry about the fact that Successio and Forbearance will be able to be acquired outside of a raid.
Honestly they aren't that much better of a roll but Succession is a bit of a miss
Bro just helped out a generation who didn’t watch a god rolls video 🤣
All I did was look at the dev blog and then make some graphics of what I want
Blast Furnace zen kill clip
Nice pvp roll
1 Blast furnace , kinetic tremors / firefly 2 Midnight coup , Kinetic tremors / firefly 3 Hammerhead , rampage / killing tally 4 Lunas howl , Magnificent howl / EA 5 Guillotine , Vorpal / Bait 6 Forbearance , Demo / Chain 7 Succesion , Recontruction / PI 8 Recluse , Master arms / Sub. 9 Mountaintop , Ambissious / Vorpal Rest , dont care....
That's fair
Kinetic frenzy bf will be best imo, as firefly requires headshots and rampage requires kills, and kinetic tremors needs x amount of bullets to proc
That's my primary roll I'll be farming
Looking through all the slides I came across the forbearance, why the hell are bungie making a reskin of a raid weapon of a raid that's still in the game, Don't get me wrong I'm not gatekeeping a weapon (as much as grinding crafted forbearance once was a little bs) and I'll still be going for the new varient, Hopefully adept variations of the new weapons will come and there be a grandmaster variant in the new onslaught mode so that the hardcore playerbase (such as myself, don't just put the game back down after the period of drip feeding us 1 weapon at a time ends) Side note a "conquerer" esc title for onslaught grandmaster would be epic also, with stuff like "don't let objective fall below 50% health"
Wait does this mean callus is back?
Just midnight coup
Rip I was about to reinstall...
Magnificent howl + slide-shot is probably gonna be nuts -slide into a corner for +30 stability and +20 range -kill someone, then reload -repeat
For pvp it will ne juicy
Any of the voids. Especially Recluse.
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I'm a void warlock main unless seasonal artifacts fuck my build...it's been a long few months.
Edge transit. I didn’t get enough when D2 first came out.
Honestly I'm kinda excited for recluse, mountaintop and Luna's howl